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[music]
Good morning.
Boyai
after a long day in the Sahara Desert.
It was unbelievable. We topped it off
with atving through the desert. Some
said of some didn't.
Went to some. We had a great time.
And now we're in Fez. This is where the
riff lived. The Rambam.
We're wearing the Fez hats.
And we have with us, we had an
unbelievable uh dinner here. Mish.
Unbelievable. And one of the things we
have a band with us, a Gishmak, a
three-piece band. Three guys with
beautiful voices. We have Duv and Dish
behind me. And uh wherever we go,
there's great songs, great camaraderie,
great vibes.
And uh I wanted to share with you one of
my favorites. It's now it's become every
time they sing it, if I get into it
brings tears right away because the
words vari.
Yeah. We're going to sing it together.
Oh, it's so emotional. Especially these
guys do the
Is that [singing]
[singing]
>> [singing]
>> Z.
[singing]
I give him [singing] the Lord.
Something [singing] has Never
know
[singing] something.
Hallelujah.
[music]
deliver
[music and singing]
[music]
everybody. My name [music]
is
[music]
[singing]
[chanting]
[music]
[singing]
Lord.
>> [singing]
>> Oh [music]
my
god.
[music]
[music and singing]
[music]
[singing]
morning. [music]
[singing]
[music]
[singing and music]
[singing]
[music]
>> [singing]
[singing]
>> Nothing [music]
is more [singing]
[music]
Oh my god,
[music and singing]
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and Chavez, they just showed up. Another
two great singers. So, we're going to
have a massive sh mat.
If you want to come on the trip next
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a sponsor. I never knew. Is he here in
the room? He's standing up right right
in front of me.
Benel Esther should have.
Here we are in the Sahara Desert with a
private jet. These are actually it looks
like propellers, but it's called a jet
prop. It's a jet only for MDY. 50 of us.
I don't even know how many. We're going
from the Sahara 2hour trip to get to the
city that we need to get to. I just want
to copy a couple lines of Tyra. The
Mishna tells us that if you an animal on
Kipper, you're allowed to eat from the
says Rav. Yes, we have to wait a day and
the whole is who does it go according to
according to which we're going to go
through different scenarios different
says the Omar
said in the name of
a day
this goes according to the says hey
which is it and the rest will see from a
different place.
All right, Raoi. I say this every year,
but I do want to tell you that
this is a jet. It's called a propjet.
What you see a propeller outside, but
it's not a propeller. It's a jet prop
>> the propellers.
And with that being said,
[clears throat]
we got to learn a little also on the
plane. Omar Rauna.
So,
As we said before,
if somebody
you're allowed to use the but says that
you have to wait at least a day and the
said it must go according to now the is
going to try to decipher which it is.
There's aud that says that if you don't
have something prepared before it's
for instance it says the
if you have
gourds that are detached obviously says
Raj is detached. So you allow to cut
them up in front of an animal and you
allow to cut up a dead carcass and give
it to the dogs on Shabas. Meaning of
Shabas was alive. Now you have a dead
animal. You allow to give it to the
dogs.
You can't give it to the dogs. Why?
Because it wasn't prepared to give to
the dogs beforehand. So it's
something that's not ready to go to feed
your animals before Shabas. can't just
because it became ready on Shabas. It's
awesome
since it wasn't prepared from the day
before. It's awesome
over here also by not only
it wasn't
food. So I think about it what could you
do with an animal
other than eating it?
>> Give it to your Give it to your animals.
animal
says legado
means for offspring. A lot of people
have animals for offspring and that's
what this guy had it for. He didn't have
it to eat. He didn't want to eat it.
Eating is the last stop when you have
nothing else to do with this animal than
you eat it. But otherwise it could
produce.
It's very very awkward. I'm giving a
to more women than men. [laughter]
So the say I got to tell you this this
here is a great story for the plane.
We know
how do you if it wasn't available for
eating it was it wasn't food it was
legato. So how do you switch
designations on how do you go from
designation of leg for offspring and go
to food?
It's there for both.
Oh, so I got to tell you this myself.
This is the concept of I say this all
the time, but I don't think my wife ever
heard me saying this. So, uh, six years
ago, I was arguing with my daughter at
the Shabas meal about she was going with
the new,
the gentle, gentle gentle, what is it
called? Gentle parenting. Gentle
parenting. You do gentle parenting,
they'll they'll parent you. You're not
going to It's not. So she's arguing back
and forth. She saw a few Tik Toks and I
shouldn't say that word. She saw a few
YouTube videos and she knows how to be.
So I said, "Listen, you know what rats
is?" Rats.
What's rats? RATC.
Retroactive
trauma clarification.
You know what it is? No. If you don't
know what it is, how do you even start
arguing with me? You don't know the
basics of rats.
Now, how did I come up with rats?
Because that day we were learning in the
suga retroactive clarification. Ray Ra.
So, I decided I'm going to stick in one
more word, trauma. Retroactive trauma
clarification. And once I put that
together, I had rats. RATC, retroactive
trauma clarification. And it threw her
for a loop. She said, "Uh, you're right.
I don't know the basics, so I can't
argue with you." And let's fast forward
six years. I just spoke to her now. I
said, "New, how's gentle parenting
going?" She says, "No, you were right.
it doesn't work. I switched
uh options. But anyways, that being
said, the Gomorrah says, we'll continue
later. The Gumar says this is an idea of
retroactive clarification. You have two
options. You have the option of using
this animal for offspring and and eating
it. And you could decide later what you
wanted to do retroactively. In other
words, on Shabas, you'll decide that on
Friday, this was really for food and not
for
legato. You hear Dave? What'sing over
there? You don't hear me? Oh, okay.
>> Ah, that's what it Okay, so we'll see
you guys have a safe flight, but don't
forget that there's four exits. There's
four exits. Two over here, two over
there, and there's also there's a strip
of lighting in case of emergency. So,
don't forget that. and we open up this
thing and also you guys know how to take
off the seat belt right if not the lady
will come and explain it a little later
have a wonderful day so this is the sug
that we're dealing with
the says that if somebody's aunt he's
shabas you could eat and explain we're
talking about that he did he didn't do
says but you have to wait a full day you
can't just eat it right away and we're
saying
meant it goes according to Huda. We're
trying to figure out which Huda and
that's why it takes us through a trip
through Shas different things in Shas.
Beautiful suggest. So now we're talking
about on the plane on the private jet.
Yeah,
it was galdic. It was the first time in
my life that I was served Pringles
Bambbo. But I actually took gushers.
There was gushers. Who gives gushers on
there? Gushers.
And it was unbelievable private plane.
So we we got to to grab the mic and I
gave a little bit of a shar and it was
talking about rats
retroactive trauma clarification and now
Sugi we're talking about retroactive
clarification. What does it mean? It
means Could I take this off though?
>> Oh okay. You guys you guys have to keep
it on.
>> We had at at dinner we had uh five guys
locals Moroccans with this stuff. The
whole guard playing some Moroccan. I
don't even know what they were doing.
What?
>> Angaloo.
>> Andaloo.
>> Oh, it's not it's not his birthday. It's
his English birthday. He also inclines
English birthday. And whoever wants to
celebrate can celebrate. I don't.
[laughter]
But then as my wife says, but I forget
the Hebrew. So maybe I don't. [laughter]
>> I owe you too.
I don't celebrate English and here I
forget and they don't they don't
celebrate the Hebrew and they don't know
that I forgot. So I don't celebrate
birthdays and I'm pl
that's how it goes. Anyway, fine. So I'm
very excited because we were able to
download in the airport wherever we
were. We couldn't download these videos
and I got them on WhatsApp. It was
beautiful stuff. So I'm going to share
with you right now. So what what does it
mean yesher? Besher means for instance
this case of Truma person has wine
atmaka wines they shipped in don't ask
so they have this wine and you want to
drink wine but the the truma m is right
before shabas let's say and you don't
have enough time to to separate truma
and the miser and my sheni so you just
say listen I'm going to drink the wine
right now and whatever is left over that
is what I intended to give before I
started drinking the wine that. So
that's called retroactive clarification.
What do you mean that that's what I
intended? You didn't intend you. Maybe
the tumor is in the what you drink. No,
whatever is left over in the battle, the
20% that's left over in the battle,
that's what I intended to do. So it says
like this, that's where we're holding.
And we want to prove that
it's this butuda only goes with no
butuda argues on his whole kind of
braer. He holds his no.
Five lines from the bottom. We
accomplish a lot during the day.
If somebody purchases wine from
I don't have a lot of light here, so if
I'm making a mistake in the reading,
you'll tell me. If a p person purchases
wine from a kusi, what's a kusi? They
came in. It was a nation that pretended
they wanted to be gay. They wanted to be
part of and sh they really mean it. They
were faking it. The bottom line is even
if they meant it and we're going with
they meant it. They wanted to they came
in with good intent but later on they
just went off and they they did their
own thing but they kept a lot of stuff.
They they keep their ra and therefore
they do take trueers but you cannot rely
on them when you buy wine from them that
they took off for you. They'll take for
themselves, not for you. So what do you
do? You're in a you're in a a little bit
of a pickle and you want to take some
quickly, but you don't have the time.
You don't So what do you do? You say
two out of the hundred that I'm about to
drink over here. I want to set aside.
I'm not going to do it now. I'm going to
do it later. That will be for the
cayenne. That's called truma.
And I'm going to give 10 out of the 98
that are left. We'll call it 9.8. The
just rounds it off. 10 we're going to go
to the ley tisha now we're really left
with only like n 90 so we're going to
take 10% of that nine is going to myself
called sheni but for the m sheni you
have to do something called
you take that nine you say that nine is
going on money that I have in my drawer
that money I'm going to bring up to one
day and use it as my but that you do
right away the true me is going to come
out later
so let's see this uh video that I didn't
get to see it. Usually I'm very involved
with the videos and I I get to see them
and I I have my little, you know, in the
beginning, in the middle, the end. We're
on a trip here, so they're surprising
here. Surprise.
Grand [music]
Pastel.
>> Sorry, I only learned Torah.
>> But you appear in today's D.
Wait,
I need to separate children.
Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop.
The Turkish
behind him. Very nice. Okay, that's not
the one I'm talking about. There's a
good one. Okay, here it comes. It's
coming up right now. says the gar like
this. So if you buy wine from a kusi
so says this brahuda and here you see
thear is proving doesn't hold a braer it
doesn't hold retroactive clarification
review
you cannot separate
retroactively says no who told you maybe
over there is something special time
there's a great reason why you shouldn't
use bra when it comes to tr why imagine
if you drink tel it's is rice it's
Right.
So
what's the trick? You're going to drink
tea. You can drink but it's okay. Why?
Because when you have something left on
the bottom that's going to become the
true miser. And what if you don't do it
at then? What if you drink the whole
thing? Then you drink then you drink
tel. What if the bottle breaks?
What if it spills?
So you can't drink. It's going to come
out that you drink tel retroactively.
retroactively drink devil because he
never separated from and that's the
reason why
in that case but maybe in general in in
the rest of he holds of retroactive
clarification of
don't you agree that it's possible that
it will break
I'm not worried about that if it happens
it happens but that's not the concern we
could use retroactive clarification we
could use
what are we going to using our shots for
bra.
You can't use retroactive clarifications
ready. They have a they have a they have
a copyright on that on that.
>> You have the first time you have to
explain what it is. Great.
So, how do you know the doesn't hold a
bra from the ayah?
So, for this I have to give a little bit
of a hagda. And here's a beautiful um oh
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Sitting here and they waited for half an
hour or more just for the computer to to
restart.
Alashi
Marovich became a greatgrandfather today
and the birth of a great granddaughter
and obviously it's because he did the
whole Spanish thing fight
there's something called you're not
allowed to go more than 2,000 amma on
chavas outside past your house if
there's no etc. So, a guy has a house
and he's allowed to go 2,000
approximately 4,000 ft. Let's call it.
He needs to go 4,000. Okay. Yeah. He
needs to go further. So, there's a
trick. He can reposition his home.
So, what does he do? As you see in this
diagram right over here, his real house
is the real house in the picture. His
pretend house is where the kala is. So,
he puts a over there. Now his real his
home becomes where the kala is. So now
he could go from that another 2,000
further because his house is by the and
from the kala he could go cuz you could
always go 2,000 in every direction
anyway from your own house from your
brick and mortar home you go 2,000 to
the right to the left northeast
southwest.
So what he did was he repositioned his
house is Moira to where the kala is and
now from the kala he goes 2,000 in each
in each direction.
So he'll sleep in his real brick and
mortar home. He'll take a to his house
2,000 and from there he can go in ei in
either direction 2,000 because that's
his real home. His real home. So he'll
go another 2,000. He'll go like this.
But what happens is since his real home
is his kala, so he can only go 2,000
back to his house. But he can't even go
into his backyard. He can't even go one
past his house cuz that's already 2,000
away from the his real home is by the
Yeah, Jamie, you with me? Soickle tiring
today.
Oh.
So what happened was there's a rabbi
there's a rabbi. He's coming to speak.
Coming to speakari
is coming to speak.
But you don't know ifi is going to be
2,000
to the east or 2,000 to the west. You
don't know in which direction you need
to make your arrow. So what you do is
you position two kalas. one like in this
picture but another one in the other
direction and then when he shows up and
everybody says oh he's he's on the east
so you use that kala
is that bra or not bra
here's where it's bra for sure 100%
and they're both speaking in two
different directions
so you put twoas and then you have to
see you're going to ask who's better
who's better you're going to do all
stuff and then on Shabas you're going to
decide which one you want to go to.
This one made what?
>> Okay.
>> I was saying something.
[laughter]
>> So, so, so, so what you do is that is
100% braer. Why? Because on chabas you
want to decide which one of the two
arovs
was the you can't live in two places at
the same time. You can't pretend you
lived on this kal and this do in two
different directions. So eli you want to
choose one of the two kalas as your home
and you want to do that on chabas and
say oh on Friday that's the one I really
meant not the other one. That's called
retroactive clarification. It's a 100%.
But what if it's just for and you don't
know if it's from the right to the left?
Then you could choose and then is going
to explain what the difference is
a little bit to the to the video only
half I just realized
says like this let's see inside how do I
know that doesn't believe in retroactive
clarification in
he can't make a condition on two
different rabbis
What could he do?
If it's one rabbi
and you you're not sure before Shabas,
you know, you don't have WhatsApp, you
don't have a cell phone, you live 2,000
years ago.
>> What [laughter]
or Mandro
or Mandro where you really don't have a
cell phone. Not the guys that have two
and one for the and one for the Yeah.
So
they have okay whatever.
>> So
he doesn't know if he's going to come
from the east or the west. So he makes
two of him and that's okay. You'll on
chabas when you find out where he is
you'll use the one in that direction. We
have to understand right away why is
that enough? Why is that not
you? But if you have two coming and you
just don't know which one you want to
listen to and then on you want to decide
everybody asked the question
why is it two rabbis different we say
you can't do that why because you cannot
decide on shabas which you want to use
and just if you don't know when the
where the rabbi is showing up from
that's also
Beautiful
already showed up to town. He's already
here. You have a lack of knowledge. So
what do you do? You make an on to shabas
say listen I don't know where he is. I
know he's here. When I find out then
I'll then that's the real
but not it's not going to happen on
chabas. It happens right now. Right now
the that's closer to that's the that's
going to work. The other one is a joke.
I just don't know which one it is. I
don't know. Hashem knows right now.
Hashem knows it happened already.
He's here. It's just a lack of money.
So, it's a I'm making a not a
retroactive clarification.
And holds in this case says an he holds
there's no bra. Here's a clearcut case
where says straight out and we don't
have a reason why he says it here. It's
just because he doesn't hold a
retroactive clarification. Now, let's
see this unbelievable video. I thought
it's galdic. It's short and sharp.
Should
[music]
I go to the rock and fish and he has
$2,000 from the rock and fish in that in
the next direction?
It's only for people that donated
$30,000 and up.
[laughter]
>> Yosi doesn't like it that much.
All right. It's good. It's good.
It's a stuck. It's like the all the
artists like we didn't get to come. So
they stuck us out. Okay, great. I
thought it was great. I enjoyed it.
All right, the drone. Because that's by
the way, here in Morocco, wherever you
go, they ask you, "Do you have a drone?
Do you have a drone?" It's the number
one isser in this country. They because
look what they you could do with a
drone. You could
What if What if you go into the military
bases and you see they're all empty? I
don't know. It's a bay.
They thought Mark had a drone. They were
like, "Convinced he has a drone." They
said, "But you said you're in tech guy."
He said, "Yeah, but I don't have a
drone." Prove it. You prove it. So they
ripped. They took apart his entire
suitcase. Neba
in this big size area. No drones. The
clear drone. The clear drone. Okay. I
mean, it's one of the most dangerous
things today. It's the biggest problem
for for for our kaleim and in in
Lebanon.
I I don't know what. No. A meal. Meal.
Yeah. You never saw him using filter
fish for that. The jar. You never saw
that. Okay.
So,
so now we're again, let's do a quick
recap. The Mishna says that when you're
allowed to eat the of somebody who on
Shabas Rav says that it's only you have
you have to wait a full day and that it
goes according to we're going to see
maybe it's not but the [clears throat]
said it's Oh, let's take this off.
What's beautiful is that
it comes with like a built-in yamag. I
don't know if you see it's the same
color.
[snorts]
>> Yeah. So
>> says the So which is this that says you
have to wait a whole day.
It's the famous of the vessels. It's not
there's a funny it's an interesting you
should look it up says you're not
allowed to move anything on chabas zero
everything is even a chair is unless you
move it
just basic everything
forget that any yeah this I'm allowed to
move that and I just discussed it
because I saw this in the safer that y
kle gave out in at the was a great
cipher by the way. I loved it. I almost
what?
>> It's his cipher. He wrote it. Tell I
didn't know. I love it. Because of that
cipher, I started opening up cans and
chabas. I'm serious. I didn't do yet cuz
I didn't do I told my whole family for
years. They're begging me, can we open
cans of Shabas? I said, "No, my my
father doesn't open cans and chabas."
And uh eventually he started opening
cans of Shabas. It's too bad on him. You
gave me this. I'm done with you know
this is what but then I read he made
100% sense. Anyways, he says like little
things that we don't pay attention to. A
potato chip bag on chabas. You eat
potato chips and you're done. It's mah.
The bag becomes mah.
Drink soda from a can, you're done.
MTah. Why? Has zero usage afterwards.
There's no use. It's garbage. It's gra.
It's a disgusting piece of tin foil that
has oil in it. You're never going to use
it. You're not going to use it to pack a
kid's lunch in it. So, it's a dirty.
So, you let him move it. So, grab your
let it move when it bothers you. It's on
the table. But, you should just realize
some people play around. It's garbage.
Another sometimes you see that that's m
a great example is when you poke a hole
in a bottle. Sometimes you have to make
a hole cuz you're not allowed to.
So that becomes
you can't put it back on a whole. Okay.
Anyway, you have to use another cap.
No. So, so here we are. We're talking
about a cle. This is a cle you allow to
move this on chabas. Yes. What happens
if this breaks?
Breaks. Should be mukah.
You have no usage for it. Just another
thing that talking about mah. A lot of
people don't know this. If a button
falls off your suit, you know how to
pick it up in Javas. A lot of people
know it. A lot of people don't. I see
people chill all the time. Oh, pick it
up. But it's MTO just come. You can't do
anything with it. You have to sew it
back on, you know. So in Java, okay,
throwing it out. But what do you do with
the broken glass? So today we're not
doing anything with it. probably just a
bunch of but says
you're allowed to move the broken pieces
not I'm not talking about is going to
step on it all those talking about just
are you allowed to move it
provided that you could do something
with it
there's two things that are going on
here something with it and then we're
going to see ain the original which
means not stomp something something
that's very similar to the original
usage but now we're not there we're in a
very weak thing if you can do something
with it then you're allowed to move it
for instance
you have a bowl a mixing bowl that broke
so if you could cover something where
they cover another vessel then it's
considered nonm
broken class if you could
here mish something like this a very
small opening you cover it okay so it
won't be you know you have some sort of
usage it's the weakest usage ever
no I'm going to be here
it has to be similar to the original
usage therefore
if it originally was a bowl so then you
have to it has to be used as a bowl lot
that you should be able to be put in it
some sort of smaller
and if it's broken glass should be able
and what what do we do before before it
was a glass holding oil now also you
have to be able to hold a little oil in
it otherwise
and therefore what does that have to do
with our
So we're talking about an animal
this this animal wasn't designated yet
for eating and
it's
this animal wasn't there before shabas
it's like a cle that has no usage right
now and it becomes
I don't like this
over there by the cle that broke when
chabas came in was a great clea and now
that it's a broken clea it's something
else
something new was created here it went
from being a nice mixing bowl a tiny
little thing now I have to see is it the
same whatever but something new happened
there
over here this animal walking around was
food and today it's also food
so it's so it's broken food it's a
little bit different but it's it's
anything that even even if it changed
the way it looks. It used to be I don't
know a loaf of bread and now it's a
bunch of crumbs. Okay. But still food.
You're right that it looks different but
it's food. Food is food. Over here you
had a walking piece of meat. Now it's a
a dead piece of meat. But it's a piece
of meat.
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a second. You'll see.
We learned
you're not allowed to squeeze fruit
to to get juice out of it. And if the
juice came out by itself,
you're not allowed to drink from it.
Why?
That you might squeeze fruit on. And
that we know you're not allowed to
squeeze in.
But if these fruit were designated to
eat like you have a bunch of grapes, you
bought them to serve them for dessert on
chabas.
You're allowed to drink the grape juice
that comes out of them. Why? Because
there's no that you might come to
squeeze them because you're not going to
squeeze such grapes. Those are grapes
designated for eating.
But if these grapes there for for Jews
then
it's so meah
by by food by by this animal too. The
gum asks
even though
yeah it should be be considered
even though it changed it's the way it
looks it's not considered it's not a new
thing.
it was there before. So says we already
explained
no but that we're discussing here argues
in that
what that according to will be to drink
from this
since it's there to squeeze and get
juice. So he's good with it.
So two would also would agree that he
thought about it and therefore we have
to be concerned he might shuck this
animal on chavez.
So says
RA, we're trying to fit into Rav Rav is
the one that said that you have to wait
a whole day to eat of somebody
and we said that goes according to
so but Rav himself
the argues on.
So one more and then we'll do the rest
tomorrow.
So who's Rav referring to when Rav says
you have to wait a full day?
This is of the candles. The famous
candle one. I think a lot of people know
that of candles today when you light
candles. We know that it becomes a buses
you're not to move it. So similar what's
that holds that a brand new candle you
let move in chabas but not a used one
why something called it's a disgusting
thing you know full of oil and wax and
all that it's it's it's gross and
therefore you don't move it on chopped
the
mm wants to say that by us also there's
there's
similar type of just like something is
grower.
So it becomes
more what's the connection.
He never said it. He did say it
candles that are made out of metal.
You're allowed to move.
So now
it became
it itself has
an animal also. What's the what's the
connection? An animal before shabis was
it had is to it. It's just like a candle
that you can't move it. It's like a a
buses to something else or that's a
little crazy but it is
it's
because so now it's it's and you're
going to try to chas and make that is
going to hold that it's
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