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Good morning, MOROCCO.
We're live in a Marrakesh side street
right in front of the
>> But this is a typical
side street. Right over there is all the
spices and everything. But we took
ourselves like a little quiet corner to
learn a little Tyra on the way. Why not?
That's how all our trips go. We learn a
little T here, a little T there, then a
lot of Terra at night. Boy, we're in
transit and I didn't do the
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of whether or not Katon
could think in his mind and it'll have
an effect on let's say a carbon if he
had a makava kavana that this carbon
should be a carbon. Do we care? Does it
make a difference? There's actually
three possibilities. Possibility number
one is that he takes action and he
explains the action with words. It's
with with a misa. We call it a makov.
It's really a dur with a misa. That's
for sure good. Then there's another one.
There's just a thought. Just a thought
is no good. And then you have we have
there going to be some people that we
don't really want in the picture. So
you're going to have to be careful. Go
this way. Okay.
>> And then you have the in between one.
You have one that
the the katan takes action but he
doesn't explain what the action is. It's
noticeable what he means. We think we
understand what he wants but it's not
clear.
So that's what the Gumar is discussing.
And the says like this
we already discussed once discussed this
that when you are able to discern what
is
he didn't explain it but he did
something he already he already said
that what is what do you say this
so I'm going to show you a video I don't
have it with me I'm going to push this
button
>> and Ariel is going to show it
>> fruits aren't unless they were first
and there are three that need to be in
place in order for the fruits to be
the first that they shouldn't be
because as long as the pre is not at all
even if water fell in it as the fik says
zerua aeri za
the second night that one of the sheba
Mashkin should fall on them which are
dash
the third tonight that this should be
because if water fell on it
it's not mosher as the says
and only after the priest is And one of
the smashkin was put on it.
Now the pre is
and if a dummy was ning it, it becomes
Tommy. This is a famous hal and chass.
And the guys did a phenomenal AI job on
this beautiful mamish.
Very little humor. A lot a lot of shot
but high class. And this is the of
what does it mean? When you have a
fruit, you have a pre, you have any kind
of food, it's not
unless
you sprinkled it with water and you
thought at the time that this is in
order to be to unlock it and enable it
to be macab.
Now, if somebody takes fruit and puts it
on a rooftop because it's wormy or
whatever and he wants the rain to come
and wash it off, that's not
you have to have in mind that
specifically for
the
so when a person puts the fruit on the
rooftop for a different reason, he puts
it there because of the worms, whatever
it is,
that doesn't count. But what if he
switches his mind? He's an adult. He
puts it on the roof for worms and then
he says, "You know what? I want it to be
on the roof so that it rains on it and
there will be that's good. But what
about when a does the same thing?" So
says the it says in the it's not
because of these little worms or
whatever. You'll see it in the video
and then dew came on the roof. That's
not part of the
but if he had good intent in other words
after he put it on the roof that is good
that's our case now somebody without
you put it on the roof the think oh I
want it to be no no good so what do you
see from here that the mava here
doesn't count. We don't care about
and we're holding in the next we'll get
to the next place and we'll do it again.
We're here in the Sahara Desert and
we're going to continue the shear with
some camels. We're about to go. It's
time, but we got to learn some Tyra over
here.
So, the we're talking about whether
Kotan has or not. What does that mean?
Can you do a misa could? Wait a minute.
Maybe I should take this off for a
second. Oh, that's a little bit better.
So, the says like this.
Didn't Ri discuss this before? So, says
like this.
There's a this is the question of yes
discussed it but I want to know is it
full-fledged meaning that I could use
the cotton maka even when it creates a
ka
or only in other words that I could say
that it's a real carbon in kachim or
only
that could be mahm raban could be mak if
they
So they could say, oh this fruit because
of the it's considered it's considered
and it's now but that's only that's only
that was question
to be continued.
>> Okay.
Hello.
>> The whole but just in a little different
way. Show all the camels over there.
Meanwhile, you don't need to look at me.
Same question that asked before. whether
or not when you take action
that's obvious what you're doing but the
cotton didn't explain it didn't
articulate himself let's say with he's
making but we don't know exactly what he
what he was doing he took it from the
south to the north
similar to what we said before but why
don't you ask me about what are you
asking me about
why are you asking Why? Why didn't ask
me
the same tells tells you that there's
and that there's no
says
and like just like we said before the is
do we say that it's the you could even
be make with it or it's going to and
then just
said this is all MDY. All these camels
are all all MDY. Turn around that way.
Turn to the Shia maybe.
Beautiful. Beautiful. Ah. Ah.
Your your picture is coming out blurry
here.
Not going to get to say this very often.
Live from the Sahara Desert
>> in Morocco.
I'm just not sure. Is this picture
straight? Cuz my the camera is off.
Didn't notice it. Let me just
SA. We got to be careful.
>> Okay.
might be a little better now. So we did
a camel ride by was nervous. They say
the nace was a greater nace than to see
a cheetah.
got to see the the the
even though we had all sorts of
and uh different things
but we were
how many camels were there? 40 50
camels
in the midbar and we saw we saw we saw
the beauty
and then we had a sud
with lamb chops and then all sorts of
unbelievable food that people came days
before literally days before to prepare
to be this hotel and we had a galda
music from our Galdica singers and we
had a great great speech that made me
cry from
Benushan.
He's very impressed.
He I was there. I told him and he went
over to his brother. He said, "You see,
I got
to cry." His brother said, "I want to
tell you something. When uh Reveli sits
down on the plane and the
they get on the microphone, they say,
"Listen, ladies and gentlemen, put on
your seat belt." He bursts out crying
every time. He says, "Not even a
so." No, it was beautiful, beautiful
speech. Mish beauty and uh we're looking
forward. It's going to be unbelievable
time. The guys are connecting and
friendships are developing and those
that developed last time are are getting
stronger and stronger and the women are
having a great time. We have probably
double the amount of women and more
women are coming for Shabas. It's very
exciting and it's all seriously a it's
how I'm going to look at it. It's it's
it's we're enjoying ourselves, but
there's a tremendous element of Tyra
involved here of Tyra and we're learning
Tyra on the on the way and uh we had
three parts I think of just random
learning here and there on the camel
next to the camel in uh in Marrakesh.
And here we go. We're going to continue
uh learning tonight. It's like 10:30
p.m. And uh as a note, once in a while
the electric goes off here. We're in the
middle of a desert. wind tents in the
middle of a a desert and the electric
goes on off as it pleases. But we have a
light, our own light. So basm,
I showed you the light. I'm not going to
show it again. It blows up the whole
thing. Use as a flotation device.
Yaldic.
So just to go back, I I don't even know
what we were saying on the camel over
there. So we'll go back three lines just
in case I missed a word or two because I
know I'm going to get those emails from
shops. You miss one word. How you going
to say the uh
so says like this
once again this is the second way I had
it the main question we have if a when
he does a an act that
there's no deb or no explanation do we
say that we use it even in aa
situation where you have to use this as
a ka or only in a deraban situation
where you use it as a it's not a big
everybody could be a m the is to be a
and to say hey you could use this kid's
carbon
and to say that you can use it and it's
a good you don't have to bring another
one that's a tremendous and now is the
question can I even use it in a
situation where you have to be or no
just okay to say that something is not a
big glick
and what do we come out
that there is
meaning that if let's say the animals in
the south and the kid says I'm taking
this animal to the north so I could forb
that even I'm going to use his his
explanation
but when there's no explanation
like putting the fruit on the roof and
the kid decided that he wants to use the
the water as
then it's not going to work. But in the
third case, so let's talk about all
three cases just as wrap it up.
These are the three cases.
We said that even works. So it's green.
just
a by itself nothing zero. Now, when you
have a mis that is, that's the blue one.
It's so obvious from what he's doing
that he's trying to accomplish
something. Even though he didn't explain
it, he didn't articulate it. It's still
then what do we have here?
of like he brings this animal from the
south into the north without explaining.
So that you can't use why because he
didn't explain but
you could you could use the mushel.
What's a good mush? Like he took the
fruit on the rooftop and flipped it
over. He flipped the fruit over. Why is
he flipping fruit over? What is he
crazy? Has a bunch of apples. Hundred
apples. He went to every apple and did a
a 180 on it. Uh 180 or 90.
>> A 180. Did a 180. Why would he take
every apple and flip it over? Because he
wants the water to hit all sides.
If a guy ising around animals in the but
he has zero intent for zero intent that
he should do like this situation with a
with a knife let's say through the knife
how do you know it's no good is going to
bring us to and the is explain why we
need two
you have to have intent for
So, a lot of you were at the Hebrew
chair, remember? We're in that tent over
there. What's the question here?
So, those of you who are with us for
know that one puzzle is not enough in
when it comes to you need why.
Yeah, that's funny. It stops.
When the Tory repeats itself twice, that
means the Torah is serious and you have
to do as is.
How do you know? I know. I remember you
there by the Hebrew one also.
Somebody say thank you to Yakov. I'm not
joking. He told me about this blow up
light and it's it's coming into
>> it's
keep looking into
what's the second
should be to your rot with your
great so here's the question when you
have a and you're
standing there as you watch him is it
good or not? A lot of people were fooled
by this question. Can a guy
while you stand there and you watch him
and you make sure he doesn't do it he
doesn't do and you say matzah you do the
whole thing.
>> Yeah. You want to bring
Oh, I didn't bring my knife here.
I It's in the big suitcase.
So we can't check now
>> that says the says the
of a idol worshipper is considered
literally an aa whether a yid is
standing there and watching him or not
his actual is a terrible thing. He makes
it an a but only a what's worse than an
aa
since we considered it a completely and
I want to repeat this I want to repeat
this again and again because I feel that
a lot of people get confused and even
though I repeated it a few times in the
last few days I think it's good to
repeat again so you can tell your
friends remind them go to schul and tell
them
>> a dead horse
a dead horse and a dead cat and a dead
dog. They're all matama. They have tumis
na. People get confused and they say,
"Oh,
are mama?" Yeah, they're also matama. So
what'sim? What's special about is that
these small
what do we call them in English?
>> Insects.
>> Creatures.
>> Insects.
>> No. No. A rat is not an insect.
>> Reptiles and creatures. There's only
eight of them that are mit.
So, some of them are not mama. Like a
frog is not matama. Toad is there.
Certain things that are not.
>> Yeah.
So, a dead cow is just like a dead
horse, just like a dead dog and a dead
cat. Mama mama
maso. If you carry it, you become
says,
"Wait a minute. You just told me that if
a idol worship it only is limited to the
is of it makes you but it's not as
severe as
that makes it to even benefit from it to
sell it."
Let me let me just flip this around for
a second. We do a real
>> Yeah, I don't trust your thing.
I have the benus here, the rabbis. What
a beautiful speech
should give you a lot a lot of a lot of
in your life.
>> A lot of uh
yeah
and all should have.
>> All right. So that's uh that's here. He
said if you double click this it it
centers itself. Okay. Beautiful. It's
good trick. Rabari
>> also Kai is with us and he's doing a
phenomenal job.
>> He took took over two and a half
thousand pictures just today
>> and one and a half thousand yesterday.
Good luck for anybody that's going to go
through them.
>> That's besides all the videos and
everything else.
Zuckar.
>> Are we gonna show the picture that Abby
Kam has took with the three camels in
the blue? It's untouched.
>> What an incredible
>> Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. Say it. I'm
>> excited.
>> Yeah.
>> I stole it. I'm telling everybody I took
it.
>> And when you pretended you took it
yourself to it and you were on the
camera and no one know better.
>> He sent it out to our family chat as if
it was his
>> I did the same thing.
>> I I didn't say I didn't say anything
untouched. It was It He didn't He didn't
doctor it. No doctoration. It's just
natural. Okay.
So, what's going on here?
If it goes like he says, "No, any idol
worship, you cannot benefit. You can't
sell the thing."
Now, listen to this. What does it mean?
There's an incredible in this line of
GMA, especially you folks. Oh, maybe
you're reading from the from the
official edition, so you have the
English. But you know what it says here
in this G? It's not as simple as it
says. Again, we'll read the words
when a when an idol worshipper has a
you know what that means. That means
that even if a Jew
the non-Jews
goes into the
and it becomes a he has the right since
he's the owner of this animal he has the
right to decide this animal is and he
didn't do the Jew did the
no good what is this because I'm wearing
okay good I don't want to I I want to
make sure this audio is working yeah I
see it here okay fine
Next
doesn't really argue. He says, let's
read it differently.
If it's a person,
a regular non-Jew that's a idol
worshipper. I don't care about his
is not. But if you have a min, a min is
the next level. A min
is somebody that loves a deso
and we're talking about somebody that's
Jewish
and a guy that's Jewish that does a des
he thinks he's amer
when it comes to the stuff and every
everything he touches
al unfortunately everything he does.
We have some interesting
lastum. I I I forgot. I only asked it in
the Hebrew. It's a riddle that you know,
so you can't answer. It's for the people
online.
In what situation do you take the shem
and burn it? Now if I would ask you what
in what situation you take and you race
it with water then everybody knows
that's a but in what situation do you
burn it burn the name of
you're allowed to burn it not only
you're allowed to burn it you have to
burn it and the answer is as we're going
to see here says
you have a Jew that's completely offer
you should know that histo
in other words he can't benefit from it.
His bread is the worst of the worst. You
can't call it past palter or you know
regular bread that because there's a
kind called pasp palter which means
bread of a non-Jew that's that's baked
commercially
there it's not a like like a bread of a
g a bread of a kuzi yeah this is puzzi
this is the worst bread and the is for
we don't want to intermar we don't want
to get friendly with them
>> what's
he thinking when he makes this bread
>> no no not the bread time out let's back.
That's for the
I'ming this carbon to like just like a
Jew.
He shs it to the to the idol.
>> So what's wrong with the past
>> his what's not nothing wrong with the
past as much as
the intermarriage thing? That's that's
the that's what's wrong with the past
because we treat him in the in the worst
in the he's Jewish and he's the worst of
the worst. This guy is an a Zaric from
top to bottom. We got to be we got to be
super careful from him. If you try to if
you eat his bread, before you know it,
you're marrying his daughter and before
you know it, you're working for him in
the in that business
and his it's unbelievable. I said this
just recently his we had a guy
comes from from family. So I got a side
from the RV. He's not touched the wine.
So I I I pour him the whole thing. But
he knows this. How do I know that he
knows this? Because he gets out of his
seat. He comes over to my wine. And he
goes like this. Can I pour you like?
Yeah. Yeah, sure. Then I go open up
another bottle real quietly. And this
this this guy that grew up in a he knows
exactly. He got up again.
I I look at my brother and I like what
do we do with this guy? I think he's
doing hakas. I talk to him like I'm
trying I don't want to insult the guy
but
>> yeah who I only drink nicel. Okay.
Last night, last night the Jamie gave us
a nice musha one. It was actually gunf.
>> What is it? What is it called? The the
bottle.
>> It's Italian bottle.
>> Cava. Cava. Cava. It's not bad.
>> Not bad at all.
>> Next time. But that bugs with the wine.
Now you know you're Moroccan now. Just
the guy. You know what I mean?
>> I don't want to. Yes. That's why he's
off now cuz he got his zest like that.
Might have been from me.
Now listen to this. This is Listen to
this
his
are burnable. You not burnable. You must
burn them. It's a
withm
you take the put in a fire. That's what
you do. Crazy stuff.
It's like the books of they're like
books of of of of
that was written. Even though it's a
real every word is perfect as a
beautiful
top cipher but we treat it asar
and they must be burnt.
and his fruit. We consider it
to eat them without
we have to be concerned that his
children are. Why? Because his wife is
he couldn't care less what his wife
does.
No, no. There's one thing about a person
who's who's not mitzvah, but that
doesn't mean that he he's on his wife
and he lets his wife be half.
Let's see what we have here. I don't
have any I don't have the sponsors.
Don't have them. What do we got here?
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specialist in international financial
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Okay, thank you
today. What?
What do you have? What did I say?
Oh, here. Yeah, you're right. Thank you.
The of worship is considered a
Why aren't we concerned that perhaps
he's a person that really does strong
and it's more than just an aub?
The reason is because we don't have
people that are firmer today.
What do you mean? There's a lot of
priests. There's a lot of people that
are very devout and they think about
and their would be towards says
we're going to go with the most people
and what comes to mind is people that I
know in the United States. So I don't
know if that's everywhere and I don't
know I'm just for the few people the a
lot of Christians Catholic they're not
very strong like the the previous
generations they're the weak they go to
church they on Sunday st what
like like reform like you go like um no
no they call him today what do they call
him in a Jew would be a um misati maybe
not traditional it's light light
Catholic light
>> social
>> social there's a lot of people I know I
know I I I talk about this friend a lot
atheist he goes to for kdesh he has to
go to kdes he loves kdish
>> no but he loves he loves the the social
and that's what the is going to say in a
These are these are they're not they're
not the real thing. Why? They do it out
of habit.
The m the
what they do. They don't know why they
do it. They don't know how they do it.
They do it, but it's not it's not for
real. It's not like they have this every
time they shar.
Okay. So, what does this mean? So, now
he's not repeating what we just said,
even though it sounds the same words.
What he's saying is the
of the men, the guy that does in the
nations, the the go has different. What
does that mean?
To tell me that is okay.
Obviously, if a Jew
is terrible, it's like so that's a
certainly should be a problem.
This is incredible. It's so incredible.
We did a video for it.
that if a guy's a min, you could you
could not only you don't have to save
him, you could actually throw him into
the pit. I'll give you an example here.
This guy, let me just preface this. He's
bowing to a balpar. Balpar the way Yoshi
depicts it always is a statue that has
um
what do I call not feces
>> excrements? Yeah, excrements. is because
balar is basically to relieve yourself
in front of see here some pigeons did it
for us and take a look what you could
possibly do to min
he's bowing to the
>> Mark you like that one
>> everybody has their favorite that might
have been Mark's favorite
should be screaming oh on the way
>> you know how many emails I got already
because of that L1
>> I got two
>> so nothing's going without the internet
I got two
>> yeah but those were internal so it
doesn't count
>> just each internal like 20
oh
>> he sent me he sent me an email
>> yeah we
Mr. sent me an email because he's a
video
min. Wow, these Moroccan flies, they're
different.
>> They just eat well also.
>> So what what do you want from me if they
eat well?
>> You think the monkey scratch is bad?
You guys need a spark.
Who needs that? Neos
if you could knock out the the Jew
that's
certainly idol worship.
No, is
not not it's not that you that it came
to tell us that you're allowed to throw
him into the pit cuz that's that you can
learn from a Jew. But the is that I
could accept a carbon from him where I
cannot. Here's a situation where a guy
is in a better position than a yid. I
could accept the carbon from a guy
that's
but not from a Jew.
I could take a carbon from some of you,
not all of you.
Not somebody that's off,
but only from you.
I've only done this between you and the
minim, but not not in the nations. When
they have a minimum,
who told you? Maybe it's the opposite.
Maybe I could be something else
that okay but when it comes to the Jews
only take from people that are not from
but when it comes to the non-Jews
don't take at all no that can't be why
that shouldn't even enter your mind
okay ish a man but why two is the rabbis
we all know the difference between a
nether and a dava. An ada is zoo meaning
I point to this animal specifically this
animal is what I'm going to bring as a
carbon. So if this animal dies I'm not
to bring anything. A nether means I am
going to bring a animal. So if this
animal dies I'm going to bring another
one. A could do both a nether and an
next.
And since when when this
so it gives off like an
obviously it's an it goes hand in hand
that's how it gives off when you carry
it
is the lowest level there's something
that's even more than that what could
give more than an a
huh
The is
the worst of the worst that what
according to this one if you have a
piece of meat in the corner this entire
tent will become will be literally ah
what a kiss from Hashem we're in oil
WE'RE IN OIL. OH let's show the oil.
>> Wow it's slightly dark in this oil.
>> Check out the light.
I don't know. Could I see the light?
Let's see if I can get to the light.
>> Yeah.
>> Know why I don't see the light.
>> Oh, that's the light. Beautiful. I'm
going to tap this twice and let's see if
it comes back to me.
>> Wow. Beauty.
>> Great trick.
Okay, so
Oh,
we're almost done. Three more minutes.
Five more minutes max.
oil and there's something that if a min
then the the entire oil the entire tent
becomes
this goes
the opposite
not that there's something that's
different there's something just like it
that what we hold the
is not
Na is only mama when you pick it up.
It's not mama. If you put a dead horse
in this in this tent and somebody's on
the other side of the tent, he doesn't
come to that's only if there's a human
being, a dead human being in here or
according to
an animal.
But this man says no you're not even
that it's not
like
says how do I know that's
just discussed that one relieves himself
in front of it what they eat they eat
meat and what do we call the meatim
of a dead person.
It's similar to Now let's learn the
Somebody should take a picture of this
gavaline
and people after a very hard day of
traveling and camel riding and walking
sitting and learning and eating eating
was that was the hardest part of it all.
>> Was not easy.
>> What?
>> Rawing ear was not easy. for some of
you.
We want to we want to send out our
condolences to David K, our global
service expert who sat in the middle
seat and Ryan ear knees in the back of
the seat, indented a a permanent dent in
the seat in front of him.
Spirit
>> spirit is like is like business clash
business class compared to
so is for you and it should be it should
be part of all of says
if you the night it's okay. What's the
problem with shing at night? The problem
is you can't really see what can you
see? can't see the whether or not most
of the
>> Oh, is going to talk about a light now,
>> but it seems like it's only it's not a
good thing to do.
A blind man who
points out immediately and we're only
doing these six lines.
It seems like you shouldn't do it, but
why not? It says you could always
say you could check the night. What's
the problem? So that's the question. Now
just to finish off the question, it says
there's a problem on top of a roof. It
might you might be doing it.
You're doing it for the gods of the
ocean.
Rashi says over here that you're allowed
to do it if you're middle of the ocean
and you need to eat meat. So says, "What
do you mean by this? you can't. So place
explains rashy that it's talking about
where it's obvious and then rash points
it out. It's obvious that he's shifting
it cuz you want to eat and not because
you're doing but what Rashi meant to say
is that he's spilling it. He's shifting
it on the bow on the on the
>> the other side of the ship. It goes down
the other side of the ship. And it's
obvious that he doesn't want the blood
in the ship. That's why he's doing it
like that. But to do it over the water
extend over it would be also taken
you see from here
even so why are you telling me and why
does the mission seem like it's only
after the fact says pap
we're talking about when there's a light
turn on the light kiss fromemashi
I'll prove it to you in raashi this
raashi's done many times in shami
and it could be I was just throwing this
out because he wrote so he felt like he
wants to prove it from the Mishna says
over there what does it say in that
price
so let's put them in the same category
what does day have the night doesn't
have light so the night is like the day
the night has light how you turn on a
switch or you put on a candle in those
days but it's talking about a night
that's similar to the because it says
them together.
So just like the day has light so but
let's talk about our Mishna. So that
that price is talking about
in the first place I can go ahead and
check if I have a light if I have a that
has beautiful fluorescent lighting LED
lighting everywhere. So I could check
just like I could check during the day
not even a problem it's not even a a
beginning of a problem. Where does it
become a problem when you don't have
lightnah
a blind man never has light?
Unfortunately, he's always blind. So
when it says in the mission that he's a
night, it means in the dark. And there's
a problem because then you don't see
that he did.
Have a wonderful day and enjoy the night
in the Sahara Desert in your tents.
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