Daf Yomi Bava Metzia Daf 8 by R’ Eli Stefansky

[Music] good morning ra I didn't know I don't know for sure but from the fact that MTI just walked in might be a sign that the war is over he's been there in the trenches from day one we haven't se miti where have you been giving out here and all that stuff welcome welcome what's your name Sim Sim fir Firestone from you all saw him on the bus the other day giving that speech Bo say we have with us a tremendous tremendous guest puts M to shame we have the himself Surly fixed on the day of his here he is [Music] yeah it happens to be that truly does the D we're very proud of him B should continue and bringing too we have with us an anonymous guest who we won't say his name we'll only say his name starts with Uncle Uncle Mishi Uncle Joey whatever you want call he's in the back seat Mr who's sitting next to you Uncle Phil from from from Maryland from from Baltimore what's your name Mark Hart sh Mark send regards to to Uncle fishal who else do we have we have what's his name what Mi that's not his [Music] name comes to the she every night do you come to the English here also every day he's only he's not even yet yeah that's right get over here byah me I'm going to read this Kan Wier thank you rebell I was thrilled to join three takeaways from my visit to mdy thank you I was thrilled to join the D in person last week I'm back in bosta now and I have three main takeaways that I wanted to share number one what's your name tell everybody your name I'm very bad with names what Martin Martin yes and you come to both shum right I even recognize you it's unbelievable you come to the English and the Hebrew every single day how many masas do you do with us so farus since tus wow that's like 50 masas maybe and you're not even B Mitzvah you should continue growing and stagging listen all the what the guys do is they go to going to next year and then they drop the daff like a hot potato don't do it stick with us whatever whatever the Riva says very very proud of you you should give your parents a lot a lot ofas takeway number one that Kan got from coming to the shear people should make the effort to come to the D in person it's such a warm welcoming environment and for those who have been with mdy for a while is very comfortable and familiar it really grows the connection to mdy which gives more to stay on the da train number two I figured I would have a great experience but what I could not anticipate was the experience of those who saw me and how it inspired them so many people messaged me and told me they saw me in sheer I didn't even know that my father-in-law shout out to Mr Tony rofman from Ed and London MD for getting him involved with MD started the D couldn't believe his eyes when he turned in for the very first time and saw me there that's a coincidence the very first time his father started the D saw a son-in-law sitting in this hot chair right over there I heard at least two similar stories of new mdy people I've known for years I was shocked when 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but in reality he's been with us since Rashana I miss da and caught them up and I'm going strong I can't say that I can't say that you've changed my life but I can say that when I'm having a hard day you make my day better it's not the gar that helps it's many the emails you read the personal stories that are something so awkward to listen to and are told the most random moments the funny jokes but sometimes really dumb ones the warm you share with the guys in the live share hold on I got to give some love here I love you I love you it's G to be a good one today oh the funny jokes yeah the warm the constant enthusiasm despite feeling sick or tired or alone in a hotel room I'm a kesi kid one of those kids the parents go to kesi for a Survivor who followed a different path and ended up returning to my roots with lots of help now I have two beautiful children and went on the way or not have to come this far say you might know him he came to the shabbaton I definitely remember him I would 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and a healthy [Music] baby a question for those of you who have not been here last night when a person when a person wants to acquire let's say um not a let's say a small horse small horse how many types of Kim can you come up with they could acquire a small horse I'm taking answers now LIF it pull it kick it it sounds like one of those games lift it pass it pop it yeah that's it say it again lift it pop it kick it Gali great ABI you're out of roll anybody else anything else huh write it okay maybe what pull it very good no you got anything else I knew it from this whole room the didn't say the one I'm looking for okay liby remember which one I'm looking for who told youw did you just tell Benny don't if anybody should be the guy in front of you not the guy in back of you yeah M okay it's a good one it's a nice one we don't really pay attention to that m means to give over you give the reins over to the other guy that's a Kenan now I want to show you a picture and this is today's Su really this guy finds a couch the the cushions are on backwards if you notice and this happens a lot especially in our neighb people take a couch in America it's a nice good couch over here if you see a couch in the garbage trust me if somebody threw it out it belongs there but then people that comes along and they check it out so this guy lifts it off like this is he kind of the couch yes or no what did he do here he's coing to the couch the answer is the answer no no no he didn't get it to there who told you it's not a video on the street yeah yeah he left it in the street and he's trying to piig it up of I know so the answer is he's not why cuz half of it is on the ground here's another picture yeah this makes more sense oh okay lift it up like this how about this picture right over here are these guys the answer is it's a big problem why because it's two people who exactly was each one is preventing from the other one to to there's another pict picture how can you be you're not you're not you're not picking it up the other guy's picking it up he's not picking it up cuz you're picking it up so what do you do that's today's Su exactly and then I have another question if you want to give Sly fix a gift for his wedding but you're not going to make it to the wedding you're giving a Shear exactly at that time let's say so you tell somebody here I want you to acquire this gift for Sly does that work what is that called let's say you find a nice cell phone on the floor you you already have one you don't need another one it's the older model you you don't even care about it could you be in that cellone yes or no oh why is it someone else that's something okay it's fine let's say it's it's a pile of cash but he's right without even knowing that he's right there is a that says you cannot be for somebody else why because you're taking it from the rest of the world means I I want to give it to the anyway so you'll you're lifting it up from the ground and now other people can't can't pick it up there is a like that what yes you could yourself so hold on okay so here's the case we'll just go through the case real quickly I owe you money I owe you money you could come to me and grab my computer for me if I don't pay could M grab my computer for you the answer is no if I owe other people money no because he is hurting the other people could he be for himself let's say I owe money he could but not for you he could be Z for himself not for you now let's see the inside that is what we're talking about yeah now we're holding in Middle literally we're in middle of a word but the new it's there's a big iser those of you that know we have seats over here come come we have at least one seat over here in the front and there might be there's one over there so what's your name Ami from who's that related really brothers another come from where do you live mon you have a seat for him okay G so yeah was mdle saying this that the rules of you're now all to go to the next that's one of the big rules this to to even go to the next I'm not serious you know that right so we we were a little bit but we're in middle of a pay in middle of the that what that if we're talking about two people holding on to Talis anded they divide it says well we're not really serious about dividing it sometimes it's a nice coat you're going to cut it in half we're talking about the monetary value so if so says the like this what about a golden Talis divided the what you have a golden you going to cut it in half yes you could cut it in half for the people from the sons of the king they they wear these things they'll use it as a scarf it's still you're not losing the value there what about two people on top of an animal what are you going to do cut an animal in half you're going to ruin the animal if it's AER animal so it and then you cut it literally down the middle he gets 50 he gets 50% you take a donkey you're going to cut it in half we're talking about value you split the value you sell it and you split the cash the whole miss everything is talking about splitting the cash means we're going to go back seven to to the mishna and in the mishna it says that if two people are holding onal you split it down the middle the problem is two people holding a couch like in this picture two people holding a Talis each one is preventing the other one from acquiring it so how does it work so you you see from here see from here that when you lift something up and you have your friend of mine I'm going to see exactly from what part of the mishna is is it is it the the at the end the is going to say maybe it's from the animal there's a few cases in the mishna you see this idea it's hard to grab on to this idea immediately but we're going to go through a little bit that it must be that each one has intent to acquire for the other one because if each one is going to be selfish and acquire for himself then they won't be able to acquire it at all so I'll give Sly fix uh not not marriage advice because I'm not the one on the last person to give but from this G you see a beautiful thing a big and it could help us understand if you go into the marriage trly thinking that you're going to benefit and you're going to take and and she's going to give you and this and that you know what happens you get zero but if you go in thinking the only way says the G the only way it could work is if you have a mind to give to the other person to be M the other person if you have a mind to give then you will be able to to get back 50% but not what wife is if you if your wife is a m of course I Met she's a so in that case okay okay we're taking it to another level we have a seat over here really filling up we got to make a renovation soon we got to make an expansion says because if you hold that you try to be for your friend then it's like the couch that's one end on the ground if one end is on the ground you are not you don't you can't acquire it why you didn't lift it up you can make but not you can't lift something up when half of it is on the ground you cannot make when half of it in somebody else's hand there's no difference between somebody else's hand and the [Music] ground you know what happens there's no marriage no nobody gains you know what meni I just thought about what you said the says it is a if you if you if you you have to look for the says it is a it's the only way to acquire It Is by thinking about the other person by giving to the other person says no no I I thought about it during last night's cheer and I said I have to go home and develop it but I didn't but the moment I woke up you know that those thoughts that's I thought about it as I was waking up I said okay I'm going to spend another 30 seconds in bed and try to make it a little bit better and then I thought about I said wow what a coincidence really is getting married tonight that's galic huh and then even came yeah it's all what time of the day did you decide to come here M exact [Music] time no it's a problem you hear this ra doesn't hold like you know that if you find an object in the in the street you cannot acquire it from your friend you can acquire for yourself but you cannot make a Kion to other people why because you're ruining it for other people you could do I could do something nice to my friend but not on the count of other people don't be a on the count of other people so therefore I cannot acquire for other for somebody else why does it work in our he says over here means since since you have the right to acquire for yourself and you are acquiring for yourself you're trying you acquire 50% for yourself so once you acquire for yourself then we allow you to acquire the other 50% for your friend in other words toire 100% for your friend says R you cannot do but if I'm AC if I'm acquiring a gift a m a lost object I finally I'm acquiring half of this donkey for myself so then I have the ability also at the same time to give it over to my friend because I'm already to the to the World by me being I guess once it goes It goes listen for a farfetched muscle would be a farfetch not that it's an example you cannot make a you don't swear on K but if I'm already swearing on a on a computer then we'll throw in also the character I cannot be for my friend for me okay so you do your friend also I'll prove it to you hter if you tell a messenger go out and steal and he steals for you what's the here we go it's on the screen remember I was I woke up this morning to get this beautiful surprise from Yoshi the last part is the best I hope you enjoy here we go this is uh a cartoon of somebody sending a GH of to steal for him here we go let me put on some sound this MD [Music] y Rings a gamar a [Music] gamar hold on get better that's [Music] you meny what was the point I love that you said go B it would have been funny if they would have said this is what I put up with every day so he's stuck in it I it was not my idea this is 100% Yoshi right he's right oh it usually goes the opposite men you tell him what is the point but okay fine but he didn't have a cartoon yet do you need to see it again yeah what is the point he says V that means it's a good idea to show it I'm gonna just continue V and you guys watch it but if you have that's Ste [Music] then [Music] how you didn't have me speaking at least no I've enjoyed it listen good he knows exactly right it's so it's so to the point it's to the point AI speak we don't need AI we have plenty of eclipse all right listen to this I cannot send you this steal for me but if we're Partners I could steal for you how does it work I cannot send you to steal for me so if we're Partners all of a sudden I could steal for you so what's the my up again two people they schemed to steal something we're both going to steal a car one of them chicken out ran away and I stole it I'm the only one stealing no it's as if both of us stole why there's no says since I am doing it with you and and I was so to speak a big I stole half so I stole for you so you see from here that if I if I could acquire half for myself I could acquire for you but you on your own just one person to acquire for the other person that doesn't work I do if I do right now I can 100% I do big difference yeah yeah yeah not because I could because I did I took 50% for myself so the other 50% for you once we have this idea so let's go through this in time of the means a death mute and they didn't have a way for them to be educated they couldn't they didn't have a language they didn't speak they didn't hear so they're completely ignorant and in terms of they don't have Das they don't have the the ability to acquire so said you know what could acquire M it's only why see so there shouldn't be any fight imagine he goes in the street he try acquire something somebody goes over and pulls it away from him so have boxing match in middle of the street he said you know what could so it's the so now we have an issue the issue is like as follows let me show you quickly what this is so nobody gets confused this is the hottest merch item it's called mdy Socks that's what this is this is a based on this here so you have that okay so how do you use that show there's plenty of people here are wearing them somebody's phone is on the floor here so the there's a and a so think about it the could acquire the can't he could only acquire the lifting it up and we just said that the only way to chire an item when two people are lifting together is if each one is to the other one each one is giving the other one now the check out what happens here he's having is having in his mind okay I'm thinking I'm going to acquire for the 50% and therefore the should get 50% what's in the's mind blank he doesn't have a mind he has no D so therefore it comes out that the is not going to acquire anything because nobody's helping him you need the other guy that's the opposite of you to acquire you here really you need the other person to give the other person that's what okay so says the you starts off saying no because the acquires it how's the acquire it because the thought about him so the also acquires it doesn't make sense the reason why the requires is because he had a great counterpart the guy he thought about him the Zer going on in his brain how was the how was the didn't do it for him okay only it only works one way what no no that's the whole that that was the whole you cannot be when there's an opposing Force it's as if the couch is halfway on the floor says what what you're saying there AIG here so if if this is the case said each one can make a for the other one that's why should also be because typically speaking to that shouldn't make a k they make a k and they acquire for each other so to in this case when you have what's the connection that only works maybe I ruined it by showing this but that only works because the other one has the do for the the one opposed the one on the other side the in this case will have in mind to be for the but over here he was only thinking about himself because if he himself the himself cannot acquire it in this case why would he go into a marriage or into a Kenyon thinking being such a nice guy thinking about the other guy when he get gains nothing out of it he's only thing about the other guy because he's going to gain need to tell his no no no we don't say these things it's like the first thing that came to mind is for your friend I'm only doing it because I want to be answered you know without thinking about it I'm going to die for you because hasem is going to help me what if I knew for sure Hashem won't help me only you then probably I won't die him for you yeah I'm only going to do a k for you because I know at the end of the day I'm going to get 50 % out of it I'm not going to do I'm not going to give you 50% go through the whole thing slepping a couch so you should be coing to the cou and not me I'm not going to do that you're right neither of them so what is the the logic behind it the only reason why said that two death mutes are kind of for each other so there shouldn't be any fighting over here the uh let's see do we have here nothing's going on in either of their heads no K I'm not being guy I don't know how to so we're both but here in this case check this out this gets better is not for you so the also says I'm going to flip you over I'm not going to I'm not going to do for you so neither neither of us are K but he says listen to what the says over here the as incompetent as he is has least enough D not to for okay not for is a why because even a gets it sh says listen I'm going to be really really upset if you get it and I don't get it but if neither of us get it I'm calm like a little kid why does he get a candy and I don't get he gets really upset don't don't worry about it neither of you ah okay wow I'm so happy neither of us gets that's what happened over here I'm not better than he doesn't get I don't get I understand that it's not going to be any kind of in other words is the says so now we have a new smooth sailing here where did the pick up where did R get this idea from that what's it doesn't say where from the first Mna in we could learn this big that if I try to acquire a lost object for my friend I want to do him a favor it doesn't work or it does work does work how how did you get it the first first case two people holding T what is he saying he say like this he's saying that if two people are holding two people holding on to this since we're not for each other a third guy could come and grab it away from us it's perfectly fine to have a me it has to be that they're thinking about each other but in our mishna it doesn't say that it says each one saying the whole thing is mine I don't allow a third person to come here and grab it so it doesn't work from the it comes from the second part we said there's a double over there that's case number one number two the question is why does have to repeat itself repeated itself already asked this question all them we already established it's two separations one is a lost item and one is a sale you're right let's keep on going in this case if you just to remind one person said the entire thing is mine said half mine so the guy that said half his mine he already admits to the other guy that the red part is Ru we're not even arguing about that the only argument is the other half the sweatshirt and that we divide into half and the question is can we fig this from you have this extra word it's like I have nothing to do with it so it's coming to tell us this big that if I acquire a lost item for my friend he's the friend says who told you talking about over there maybe we're talking about a sale so maybe if I try to buy something from the store for my friend it doesn't work but if I L lost item nobody owns it maybe I could acquire it that is we said there's two cases in the m in the beginning of the Mna I already spoke about another case answer is yes when a person admits and he says not all things M only half so he's a nice guy if a nice guy he shouldn't make a no he's not a nice guy he's a very tricky guy he's tricky he's aov aov doesn't make him a bad guy that's going to swear and lie in a so what does he do if he says that guy says the whole thing is his and he says the whole thing is his he knows he went to Yeshiva he knows that he's going to have to swear that he doesn't want to do so he has a trick he's going to say no no no I'm I'm only half is mine and if half is mine they're not going to make him make it's much better for him to get half and not make a than to say the whole thing and and only get half and make a that's what I'm going to say they'll say I'm I'm saying the truth I'm giving back I have to say therefore the comes and says no if you say half you have to make a so it's from the continuation let me show you the picture you got what it looks like now we have an updated one here you ready the this a b and all of a sudden two guys come in riding a donkey that's the they're on the donkey coming to B I already said you're holding on to the towels what's the difference if you're you're on an animal or grabbing an animal or grabbing a towels it's so extra to teach us this I need to tell me that this some of you guys scream riding the animal screamed we learned in K all the different ways to be never mentioned this one riding on why maybe in this case the animal's kind you look he's being you he's sling you around so says so it's not extra because I have to teach you that riding on animal you make a Ken on the animal no from the last part of so as we read it everybody's wondering what's going on here if two people admit that they each own 50% so of course they don't have to make a each one gets 50% they go home what's the big you need to tell me that if we both purchase something we both bought a car together we could divide it down the middle of course oh a b we're talking about that he found two people found something and what is the finally learn here that I could acquire for you no there's no for me it's not a question typically speaking I cannot acquire for my friend if I find something but over here it's different since I acquire for myself 50% then I have the right to acquire for you the other 50% but to be to acquire for you 100% that we cannot do let's go wake up wake up wake don't go back to sleep says in the name of who's R rebi who always both ra and I learned from I heard from him I learned two things from him man here and here's man man means to grab him by the RS and and pull him one he said is a great Kenyon and one is not a Kenyon which one do you think is a better Kenyon huh pulling pulling why what about writing maybe it's a better Kon if it's literally like this that he's on He's on by himself nobody else intervening and he's sling the Animal by himself it's is kind of who in the world will say that pulling an animal you're not so if anything one out the two if you had to pick one out of the two would be if you're riding on top of the animal you're not so of course what's the Shiloh what did have what was this question if it's one in one one person by himself of course m is better than writing so the question was this this is obviously man is better but this case this case there's a guy on the animal and there's a guy pulling the animal that's where the shil was who has who has the better King in here maybe you'll say that the guy riding the animal is much stronger he's on the animal he's grabbing the animal so therefore he's making the Kenyan who has more of a somebody sitting in the driver's seat driving the car or a guy behind pushing the car the guy sitting in the car is the car it's my car so maybe over here the guy sitting on the animal has more vinion than the guy pulling the animal sponsored by kidovations see in honor of my uncle second sponsor of Baltimore Maryland in honor of fish and gross thanks to them 137 people learned over 16,000 and over 727 th000 minutes of to B with mdy s reminds me of joke we didn't say joke in a while a guy was riding his horse to the bar he tied his horse to the bar went in and drank comes out his horse is gone so he doesn't know what to do so he claps on the beer says if I don't get my horse back within a few minutes I'm going to do to you what I did in New York so just a few minutes go by and the horse shows up so the owner of the bar says what happened to New York so oh New York I just walked home oh no no and remember this right here told me directly let's figure it that ourselves which one is better the guy pulling the horse or the guy on the horse not our Bo here we go we're talking about clim it's also the plow field with two types of animals and if you are moving you're in charge of these animals you get malus you get 39 lashes if you're like this now this is not accurate raai because he's actually holding on to something I would prefer him not holding on to anything as theor says specifically just sitting in the wagon and there's two types of animals a horse and a bull you get malus that's the very very famouser was in a wagon with his famous rebi Adler and the horse broke down the transmission went out on the horse so the the wagon owner said hold on a second he unhatched him or whatever the lotion is he got rid of him he went to the barn and he came back with a bull and he put the bull so jumped off the wagon and started dancing in the snow snow and he told when in your life will you be able to to say I wasn't over on a on clim you know we don't have the issue we don't we have cars he he didn't have animals he was a he was a Rosa here's a situation where I could avoid of says May so we have to remember this also says no sitting you didn't do anything you didn't move the animals you sat in the wagon but this is not a real a don't worry about it basically what we're doing is we're taking this making it the the Rabin the majority view it wasn't mayor who's a singular view it's the many say that if you sit in a wagon your sitting sitting in a wagon just sitting on a horse according to rash not making the horse move you're just sitting on the horse that alone is not a Kenyan just like you don't get malus for sitting in a wagon of in Adler's case sitting in the wagon being driven by a horse and a bull you're not over so too you're not over you're not making a Kenyon if you're sitting on a horse if you're all by yourself you don't acquire the horse so certainly if there's another guy pulling the horse he's the one making the Kyon not you sitting on top of the horse they say about used to call taxi drivers man the taxi driers used to love it because they were the man of the man they were the the man of the it's unbelievable says if you remember and they don't bring it down but I think it's forgot his later on in life and thre out you told us this you told us that so here it's another case of that where tells re you sure you heard this from says right seven lines up it says says rud that told me this says re I know you're sick I know you forgot your didn't say like that he said a nice way you told us we I heard this from you dozens of times you never mention what's going on today all no the truth is and I remember the I even remember the whole conversation no no it's not because I'm sick and I forgot my it's this is what happened I told how do you master bring a guy that's on top of the animal from a guy that's sitting in a wagon this that's why this picture is terrible did it and he didn't know the intricacies of the but here here we go Ro on the right he's actually holding the rains but the guy in the wagon is not holding the RS pretend he's not holding it it's very different and R said right because kept throughout chats he always mentions around and he always mentions both surprising there not even just holding on to the RS is nothing this is just the same thing over with different names but the outcome is the same how do you figure out someone that's on top of the animal from someone that's just sitting without doing anything sitting in a wagon you not grabbing the r is the one that said it you don't you don't make you don't acquire an animal by grabbing the RS this idea of the RS you give you give the reins over to somebody else here take it that itself is a you acquire you don't have to lift the animal you don't have to push the animal you don't have nothing you just give over the the r this does not work when you find something in the street you find an animal in the street why which reminds me when I learned in I was about 10 years old and an American kid just came from America and we used to play sports baseball basketball punchball all these things and my father decided the best place for me would beana in middle of the desert so you get there nothing zero some kids as a sport would try to hit a cat from a distance that was a sport I'm not I'm not kidding it's terrible thing but there was nothing to do what do you do when you're 12 13 years old and there's no Sports it's also to play sports all of a sudden I notied in the distance I noticed the Donkey by itself so I I started running running figured I'll catch a donkey again the donkey looking at me looking M thought I was nuts who this m running in a plowed field in middle of the desert dust kicking up when I got within 10t of the donkey it just took off and obviously it's quicker than me I never caught it so then it took me like two weeks to figure out how to catch it I went all the way around and then I did the trick from this way I start I started so then he started running towards TI once he got to TI then I had some friends jump and we caught him we call it we got a donkey from so if I were to acquire that donkey by holding its rain which it didn't have and I would not be kind why C I was a also I didn't want to say that so if I were to grab the rain would it be my donkey yes or no no you know why because m means M the betterin that owned the donkey or whoever owned it would have to give me the rain but me grabbing the rain from hefer doesn't acquire it acquiring from a a convert who died without any children you cannot beo with and here's a beautiful thing it's very deep why is it called why is a rain called expain the word has a lot of meaning the reason why it's called the reason why it's called a is because you use that to give from one person to the other that's the whole meaning of the word and explains when your friend gives it to you because he gave it to you that's a I'm giving over the ownership of this animal to you it doesn't work who's the in our two people are are riding an animal they both get half says right let's see if we have any more of these oh no but here when it comes to clim two different animals a horse and a and a bull plowing a field sitting in the in the wagon hold you get malus he has to tell us the whole in the first mission of to say that that works if sitting in a wagon which is behind the animal it's as if you're riding the animal you're so certainly if you're on top of the animal you're kind of there wouldn't be there would be no reason for him to go out of his way to tell us that according to sitting in a wagon is not a user it's not user when it comes to clim so too and nevertheless M has to tell us even though when it comes to clim your pot you should know that if you're top of that animal you you acquire the animal so the problem is theud says that is like sitting in a wagon and you're not over here it seems that that sitting on top of animal you are you know I don't know if it happened to you but unfortunately happens to me all the time sometimes we have guest and my wife is starting to say something and um I I figure it's going to be embarrassing so I give her a little kick under the table and then she goes ow who kicked me and it's like a double baz now the guy knows that she's talking about me and plus I kicked her on the table so that's M take a look at this picture over here it's I think it's very very take a look it's it's subtle it's the first millisecond here it goes RAB say take a look boom that when the guy goes with his heel into the animal's ribs you want to see it again here we do it again that's Hana boom that's not sitting idly and and just letting the animal do whatever it wants when you're man your action makes it move forward that's how you co it says the but wait a minute what's the difference you're pulling it by the by the by this by what is it called the reins or giving it a kick you're doing the same action you're making it move forward it's two different ways to do it and why do I need two different ways maybe I'll think you have one person what's the case they come to bz one guy's pulling the RS one guy's on top the should give the entire animal to the guy that's on top why because not only is he driving the animal telling you where to go he's also on top of it grabbing him so maybe should the 100% not 50% we divide it equally have a wonderful day