Daf Yomi Bava Metzia Daf 45 by R’ Eli Stefansky

[Music] name is [Music] say [Music] name [Music] in [Music] welcome welcome to all the guest what's your name Freeman from Lakewood I was at yes a couple weeks ago I remember I started a team I started a team for mdy really yeah new and and we're getting there what's your name oh I know you guys it's your parents are from back in the days you're you have a uncle that that sells pancakes in New York yes okay you don't know that your family's from this is last year hold on what's your name shim who else do we have here yeah this is us last year I want to show you I got it afterwards we got a Shir to do over here yeah appreciate what's your name mark bburg from vanen you related to this guy oh buddies bringing buddies okay so tomorrow I hope is the big raffle I think there's 3,000 entries 3,000 people donated over $100 it's very very nice uh we reached our second goal shabas and uh it's still going to be open the the the whole campaign will be open B for a little bit anybody could come in last minute there's always good surprises what 1.2 and $100 no no we whatever there is no goal that's it we're there it doesn't hurt to to to add dear reell have just come back from camp in Cyprus I was so excited when I saw mad using a spear moment to learn with you with your good self he regularly listens to your Hebrew Shear was happy to hear that I'm part of his Elite happy that I'm part of his Elite group as well he excited to tell me about that you read out something about my donation spoke about me in the Hebrew Shear Ellie zelinger and Grant you strength and from all your kids going to jump right in to the sponsors we have a quite a da today and we have to make up a little bit that we missed on Friday the is not sponsor by anybody anous from the safe and Speedy return of all the hostages and all my Endeavors great grandmother for the of the Anonymous for the for easy child birth for his daughter and a healthy baby tomorrow we're going to have a Shear if everything goes well and unplanned we'll have a Shear here at 7:10 in the morning if everything goes as unplanned we'll have another Shear at 8:00 in the evening that would be Monday's da if you want to be here live that will be the my final she for until after PES then at 9:00 there's uh the Hebrew Shear so it goes like this at 7 da at 8 yeah when time is you said 630 I'll make it we'll make it to the 8:00 and then 9:00 and then I'm back to the to the wedding not invited besides cheer market.com cheer market.com is here by the way zki raise your hand if you need cheers here lift this up for a second no I I was going to do it with you cheer market.com that's it okay so so the B for not only donating $20,000 worth of Cheers but also we're also bringing over I think $7,000 to the campaign maybe even more so it's a it's a good year for the [Applause] bellies all right so as I say and I have to say it again PES is a very tough time to learn the da ER p m between there's a lot of mat going on there's a lot of there's a lot of trips and people people fall off the bandwagon try not to set aside time remember it's very important to stick with it and if you don't stick with it then skip ahead skip ahead write it down and we'll meet you here B don't get discouraged if you see interesting shum from different hotels keep on going V or check out other shum maybe they're better during pesak I don't know but it's interesting that pesak seems like a challenging time two two three years ago was during now we're doing we're holding it's like 20 lines from the bottom we did this and we're going to do it again real quickly we're talking about my Shen sh is when you have fruit you bring 10% of what you have left to the to your and you get to eat if you don't want to carry all that fruit you can redeem it into money and carry the money up to your life what H what happens when you redeem it to money we don't really talk about it a lot you redeem it to money you get a penalty yes you have to add a 25% question can you redeem it into gold coins let's you have a golden dollar bill you want to redeem it all the fruit you have tens of thousands of pounds of Of Mice or sheny you're very wealthy you want to redeem it to a gold coin can you do it into gold or only silver huh a coin not aill a coin not a bill what tonight unbelievable the is on fire you guys can get together Monday morning something I don't know what you was saying you the coin the bill wow no no it makes me feel good at least the shot is so far good anyway so we're gonna see it's a says like this you should not take your silver coins and make them into gold coins you can't redeem the silver into the gold say it's okay so now we we don't who says what whether you're allowed to take the silver and transfer the from the silver into the gold so that was the whole I know it gets confusing it's just very very simple stuff when you're looking at gold and silver which one is the currency and which one is the product so what M says we saw that even rebi himself reversed his own later on in life and when he wrote the Mish so is the product is the currency and when he was younger he said the exact opposite so silver coins are currency just like in our Mna and the gold is the fruit it's the it's the merchandise and therefore you can't the T says that you take fruit and you transfera from fruit into currency but not reverse you can't take currency and transfer into into Fruit T doesn't say that therefore it doesn't go from the currency to the gold gold is fruit golden fruit the opposite within that one of them they explain this the opposite the silver is the product and the gold is the currency pay and therefore you could go from fruit to money what about going directly from your fruit to a golden Bill sorry wait wait coin golden coin you know I do it on purpose every time right I just throw it out there cuz I want to wake up you think I don't know these words how do you say of course I know it I just want to start getting invol but I appreciate it oh but to go from fruit to Gold of course you could do it at this point the gar says you could take all your fruit and trans the golden coins who cares what's the difference if it's golden coins silver coins American coins Israeli coins it's all the same I'll prove it to you because what about silver coins according to when you look at silver coins versus golden coins we said what that silver is considered fruit it's considered merchandise yet everybody admits you could take your fruit and transfer it into into silver coins but you just said that silver coins are consider fruit and you shouldn't be able to transfer fruit to fruit you can only transfer fruit to coins the answer is that when the the competition is gold and silver so silver compared to gold silver is a fruit but when the competition is fruit obviously people use silver coins as currency so when you compare silver to fruit so silver becomes currency the same would apply to gold gold might be fruit in certain situations it might be considered merchandise but obviously you could use gold to purchase things why do you have golden coins for it's not for fun because people use them so therefore you're permitted to transfer the of the fruit to your golden coins yeah the wording is is confusing the ideas are very simple even though silver compared to Gold PVE we called Silver at least according to one we called Silver fruit but when you compare it to to merchandise in the store so silver coins are not fruit silver coins suddenly turn into currency so two will use the same logic according to when it comes to Gold even though gold is considered fruit compared to Silver but in order to transf from your fruit into a coin you're able to do it for Golding coins here's where we're really holding on Friday and either say that even when it comes to transfer from fruit to golden coins we have where's H it's not here tonight no cuz I don't want to I don't want to forget this but he had this very nice suit on I had a feeling that was a custom made suit so I like opened up his thing started saying things wa this is all like during ding so we couldn't really talk so then I said you know show me the like I started pulling his and then he does his collar and it says guess what it says in the back of his collar it's m seriously you all guess it or you all saw it anybody see it before or you guessing literally guessing that's that's galic it does say it's Aus anyway now y you have to go call him up and say could I please have a picture of the college it's going to happen it's going to happen we get a picture soon okay isn't this interesting you might not be able to take the of your fruit and transfer into golden coins according to says you cannot transfer from fruit to to gold so then say much why you arguing whether you could take from Silver and transfer into gold it's much stronger to say forget about silver to gold from fruit to Gold you can't do it isn't that a much greater if you tell me that is whether you could transfer from fruit to Gold I think okay it's interesting from fruit to Gold doesn't work but everybody age they could go from Silver to to gold everybody agreed cannot we have also from silver to gold you might be able to do you might be able to Transit okay now not really we continue not this again we have a question whether you could transfer your fruit into gold perhaps it's who says not allowed to transfer and the is going to say the exact opposite at says you could transfer why dinner dinner you're not permitted to borrow a golden coin and give back a golden coin what is that called yeah here we go so you can borrow a bowl or a certain amount amount of Wheat and return that same amount of wheat why because the wheat could go up in price same thing applies and we'll see we we'll talk about it a lot different things here in especially when you live in an apartment building people knock on your door all the time can I borrow milk i buor o not you snobs that live in houses can I borrow oil can I borrow wine can I borrow [Music] this whatever it is so it's okay that's okay for whatever reason but sa doesn't work so he says you can't borrow a golden coin to return a golden coin because the price might go up so thear says wait what are we talking about is it golden coin or silver coin let's figure this out din what kind of dinner are we talking about we're talking about silver to Silver you borrowing a silver to return everybody agrees that silver is currency within itself so that shouldn't be a problem you allow to borrow $100 to return $100 so obviously we're talking about gold and gold and that's a problem and the explains say straight out that gold is currency so that should be okay that's what we're talking about what is this is talking so is gonna say why is going to that it's not currency inish if gold is currency so everybody agrees I could borrow $100 and return $100 because currency is fixed yeah yeah it might be okay the sheer goes up and down the kind of thing but you you're allowed to borrow 100 bucks return 100 bucks and that's how that's how it goes theoretically it's a fixed it's a fixed amount but if gold is not a currency if gold is considered a fruit and fruit go up and down there's a stock market and every day gold jumps gold goes up go go down that's a problem for and that's why it says you know so obviously according to gold is a fruit and if gold is a fruit you cannot redeem fruit with fruit again we had a sh can you redeem fruit onto a gold coin and the answer is the coin toishi would be not permitted why because the Torah says redeem fruit to money not don't redeem fruit to other fruit huh who what money no no no no fruit we're talking about look at rash we're talking about over here we're talking about can you redeem fruit directly to the gold okay you're a little rusty you haven't been here for a few [Music] days not a good you are permitted to go from fruit to gold but we're talking about alone right the top words of this din dinner you know go from gold coin to gold coin we took the the gold and we considered gold like a fruit not like currency goes up and down when it comes to gold and in in a loone we're going to consider it like a fruit and therefore or you're not permitted to borrow a golden fruit so to speak to return the golden fruit that's a problem of Saw B here now we have said in the name of asking what hold here even though he said you're not permitted to borrow one golden coin for another you're allowed to go from fruit to gold what do you see from here they allow to go from fruit to gold and the story that Accord to is the one that holds they all to go from fruit to Gold that means is going to be the one that holds you're not all to go from fruit to Gold it's interesting this two one after another and they say basically the same words but they mean the opposite why so it's very easy to see what they mean over here it says ha Pirates so in English if I if I want to make if I want to take a certain denomination and get changeed for it so I'm going from a larger denomination to lower Den I'm taking a $100 bill and I'm breaking it down 50s 20s T that's what it would seem like it say but over is talking about the reverse over is talking about you're taking a bunch of smaller denominations taking a bunch of copper coins and making them a larger one more valuable coin how do I know this because it doesn't say doesn't say the word here so obviously I'm in I'm in benra somewhere in Israel in Isel and I'm trying to go from wherever I am whatever City I am in is up to so what I want to take my smaller coins that I had from my sheny fruit I had a lot of Meer sheny so one day I I redeemed 10 pounds the next day I I I I I transferred the gucha from 10 pounds into a bunch of smaller coins another 10 pound another 100 pound now I have a box here it's even like this this we going to use for later on this is heavy okay to slep this up I'm I'm not I'm not on a bus I'm not in a taxi I I have to go with my camel so this is hard so what I do I take all this all these coins and I change it into one nice expensive coin or valuable coin so Pirates I take all this I make this into one I'm permitted to take all my small coins and make it one nice coin no no no you got to split it in half here we have a so let's say I take I have 768 of these guys I can go and take the gusa for the red gusa and put it into that other coin but according to B you can't do that you got to you can only do half half why because if I come up to with one coin and all my friends come up to with one coin what's going to happen we all need to eat so we all go to the change guy and we say we want to change this and everybody's in line to change it and all of a sudden he doesn't have enough coins and then the smaller coins go up in value and heges and M sh is going to lose out so we want you to have small change so you could purchase stuff when you get tol and we also want to we don't want you tole a lot so you allow to do half and half has been sold now what just happened think about it for a second how did the small coins in the guy's hand all those red coins they're Kish now yes how cuz he transfered the from fruit into them and then he took those coins the copper and he transferred to another coin oh so you see you go from fruit into copper how did how did they how did the copper become red or how did they get because you're able to take fruit and redeem it into coer so certainly says the certainly you should be able to take the the from the fruit put it into the gold coin why cuz gold is more money it's easier to people use it more often than than copper say no not a great we had the the first word on means it's over more people are using it in this in this place we the copper over here is the currency not so much the gold so that's why you're allowed to take fruit and put into the currency but how do you know that you're allowed to take fruit and put it into another another way to learn the we don't know who says what but the would be can you go from Silver sh silver coins that Thea went into the silver and transfer Thea from the silver into darar is gold oh and this is a very very simple that what I just like this guy maybe have smaller bills oh bills fine so it's a very simple question are you all to are you allow to transfer kadha twice the T says here you transfer the Kusa into this coin so now Thea just transfer into the coin now can you take that coin and transfer to another coin that's double that's a that's twice maybe the T doesn't allow that say it's okay still say it's okay say it's not okay yeah a simple shil it's not a question could you go from silver to gold the question is could you do it twice you already did it you already used up maybe it's a onetime thing that you're allow to transfer you're not allow to transfer twice three times four times only once can't do it twice we still what does that meano so very simple here you see this I'm just seems to be extra word over here I know you're talking about it say take it put it in the money so the fact that t say it twice is telling you you're allow to redeem it twice you allow to go go from fruit to Silver from silver to gold but to go from fruit to Gold that's not the is you missed the whole point according to this is this a question whether you let it go twice not a question of going from denomination to fruit and fruit it's not the point so if that's not the point then of course you're allow to go from fruit to Gold there was never an issue gold is not an issue the only question was could you do it twice or not and of course it go from fruit to why that it's the first time so okay another one says even to go from gold to to says that to go from silver to gold why are you telling me between if you could go from silver to gold tell me can I go from one I took all the of the fruit put it into one piece of silver now I'm going from this piece of silver to another piece of silver can I do that what's the sh can I go twice it's a much better question if the question is can I go two times can I redeem twice so I could I could tell you a much better question what happens if the two times are from the same denomination it's the same type of money from Silver to Silver if you if I can't go twice then it's a much bigger I can't even go from Silver to Silver how you doing you've been here all the time I know in the shear but in Israel great time to come love it they're saying oh from tonight you know to be in a big area this that they might have to I hope after the after I get on the plane I'll talk to you guys later what how for you guys not so good for me my wife won't be so happy with me I told you to go last week I told you told you to stay in America I have to go to he ra cut [Music] saying I didn't come back for don't worry about it came back to say she oh so you the very why are you jumping and telling me that oh he's here without the suit well good are you I need a suit I need a thing go back and get your suit get out of here [Music] zoom in zoom in zoom in can you zoom in [Music] wow okay very simp if you tell me between could you transfer from Silver to Silver so say okay that's I'll say the reason why you picked between silver and silver is because going from silver to gold is no good now you notice now it says is the this is what we call making change a guy already came up to your with large very valuable coins gold gold coins why because it was very heavy to have small but he now he needs to eat can't go how many times have you gone into the store and asked for a bag of potato ship the $100 bill and they say sorry you know I can't sell like that it's too much so he goes with a large a valuable coin similar the same but for different reasons over here we still say don't break the entire thing don't get a bunch of small coins because if you do what's going to happen you might have to go back home and all those coins will go to waste so to speak in those days coins didn't last very long they get they get ruined they get moldy whatever it is so we're saying please just break it in half take half in small change the rest take a large Bill hash kasp you know also but in America I just noticed like recently like they start asking you how do you want your money coming out of the ATM machine that's probably old stuff I never noticed really you say 20s hundreds it used to be they just gave you a bunch of 20s or something you know not anymore now you say listen I want something large denomination something small break it up a little bit now when it comes to money silver oh as the B question what happened you came up to with a golden coin how how did what happened here you had all your from the fruit into this coin now you're coming to and now you're breaking your gold coin into a bunch of small coins isn't that twice I thought you're not allowed to do it twice you're transferring twice says [Music] so what about gold for sure you should be able to do it ask me a question from when a person's tells you to buy small things here we even have a picture from different time if I could get to it h you all to buy all the stuff besides fish of course and uh and what salt mushrooms okay so how how am I going to get to that the only the only way I could buy the small stuff is if I have change okay now we're going back to the first case it's two MN one after another over here doesn't say that's the way to remember it over here doesn't say so you're going from a bunch of small coins you're trying to get a a more valuable denomination it says right the key word here you're permitted to break down all that money you you took your small so what happened there let's think about it for a second you have a bunch of copper coins they have in it how do the copper coins havea because you transferred the from your fruit into the copper you took the copper and you made it into gold oh so that's already two times and it's not you can't say like before this outside one you have to do half but you see according to I'm allowed to go from fruit to Copper that's one transfer I'm allowed to go from copper to Gold that's transfer number two so you see it's not a problem to do two transfers [Music] you're right you're allowed to do two transfers don't allow to do two transfers because it says twice so it means I can do twice so what is can I go from silver to gold okay so the problems like this if I have the ability to go from silver to gold so now there this is good guy has like this but times 10 of this yeah is a very it gets really heavy quick so I look at my money right before PES like right now I'm like this is getting crazy I can't go up J like this this is going to weigh down my donkey let me wait but I don't have enough here for gold I need another you know what between suus and P and suus I'll get more and then I'll go on sukus Su comes now I have even more but not enough so I wait till keep on pushing it off the bottom line is you're not going to make it to in the next three sometimes you don't have enough to get a golden coin you don't go up nobody's going to not go to the because you're waiting for a few coins and transfer even if you don't have a golden corn you'll still go up if you just have a bunch of fruit to transfer the fruit to Gold that's not a problem why the since fruit rat you're not going to leave it you're not going to leave it there until you get a gold gold coin so you're permitted to go from fruit to Gold ah you might not have enough fruit you might not be able to redeem it like that you're still going to go to why you going to wait another half a year if fruit will rat and we're not concerned and the other one says we have a Shiloh whether or not you all to go from fruit to Gold by the way I'm giving she on in Hebrew tonight much easier so if you're you're all gold silver fruit this it's much easier tomorrow oh should wait what what do you mean wait I said no don't worry no I'm not saying to wait I'm just telling you not all of is like this it's easier inovations in honor of my uncle and by official mitvah motivators by re official in honor of the Le sponsoring for the daily learning the brothers the grandfathers and another one says even to go from fruit to gold is if you hold you're permitted so that's what the over here where's that the where's the BR again [Music] Yas right that's where we started today not awesome you shouldn't go from silver to gold so the says what does mean if you telling me that M you're permitted to go from silver to gold and the one that okay makes sense that's a good with the whether the allows it it should say completely different should say do should say can you redeem or not redeem on the it seriously can wake up now everybody get into it we have to finish soon can I use coins to doip we're all familiar K sudip can can I give a a bunch of coins here you lift this and you to to your Kal XYZ or it's only with a CLE let's say only with a sud question let's say you cannot use this for can't do this right how does it work he lifts this and therefore somebody else is kind of that I could I lift this I acquire your you acquire my donkey can if this does not work can I use let's say us y right Y and then you acquire this bag of money is one connected to the other is there a havina that this that money cannot be transferred through the kingon ofip so the answer is there is such that's tomorrow so good says why doesn't it work for according to because his mind is on the depiction on the money in other words even this let's take this coin for instance oh we have here we don't need this why is this worth in in Israel today 10 does it have a 10 Che value doesn't have 10 Che value so what because you rely on the government you say okay the government decided 10 10 ja but what if the you know gets erased or something so then you lose your your they could say it's not worth anything when I was a kid stroll all of a sudden um like a thousand shekel became worth one shekel they they they chopped off all the zeros they said okay we're starting we start remember a lot of inflation B not what is it new the new sh what all the shek you had before a thousand went down to one so it's possible not lero old she new she it's called n new Israeli she new there was she I believe and then it went down no you don't remember this in the 80s right it wasn't so long ago anyway so in order for it says in the like this we're going to see this a lot at least in this remove the shoe so from over here you see the idea ofip removing the shoe does it have to be similar to the shoe a shoe is something very specific it's a whole thing money perhaps is missing something it doesn't have in itself doesn't have any value I'm told those days it did did but even in those days it had a depiction on it and that gave it the and if there's a problem with the depiction if the king decides it's no longer currency then you lose everything so therefore right now today it's also missing something it's missing part it's not like a shoe I just want to say that very interesting that exact because it's it's hard to say this but exactly 500 years ago almost to the day almost to the day 500 years ago there was a guy have his names here you can look it up his name was Castro he was the guy in charge of minting coins with uh and he's doing it he lived in Egypt he's doing it for the for the Turkish Empire and there was a there's a ruler in Egypt didn't obviously didn't have the power that the the the guy from Turkey had and his name name was Ahmed P that was his name he decided Ahmed Paka guy decided that he wants his depiction on the coin he wasn't happy and he wanted to change the of the here this thing he wanted to change and the Jew was very fearful so he sent a message to to the guy in uh the Sultan in uh in turkey and the Egyptian found out about it and he said okay we got to kill you and all the Jews it was a big TL in Egypt then said we're going to get rid of all the Jews they all fasted and Dav the whole thing and then the guy from Turkey found out what happened he took that Egyptian guy and killed him and that was then so it's called of something like that that's the name of the story 500 exactly 500 years in a week think about it it's interesting so we learned in the mishna that the gold is like the fruit so when you lift up the the fruit you lift up the gold then you acquire it huh it's the best sometimes it's the best sometimes depends if it's on defense or offense we're just listening to jets flying by in case you're wondering I don't know if you can hear it on the if you're quiet everybody quiet okay how did youire you acquired the gold what's mean in the Mish that the guy owes you the silver coins but you lifting up gold here he lifted up gold oh you know what we have a video why not show the video we already have it might as well show it again here we go by him lifting up the gold he acquired the gold and now he owes the silver coins to the guy in the turban he owes the how did he do it isn't that a isn't that a you see that you could do with coins says over here it wasn't a over here what he did was he's just doing it like you buy something in the store he took the merchandise he took the Battle of cola in this case it was a bunch of golden coins and now he owes the owner of the store money it's a k as the and that's what's confusing about this this peric what does that mean it doesn't fit well in the way we translate in our words doesn't fit well what does it mean what what does it really mean when I lift up the I owe the money to the to the store owner so say it says theor say it like that it's not it's not written well should say when I lift up this golden coin I become the silver coins to the store owner not say you're 100% right today has that's what that's how you should read it we're going to continue reading it the way we read it but in parenthesis just you should know it means when I am I am silver coins to the to the guy took the the gold from that's how it's supposed to be read that's how he supposed to understand it also make sense here's the video for that he says I buy some gold he puts down his silver and now this guy he he takes this the the money from him but he he says you know what deal over I don't want to give you the gold but he already made a Kenyon on the silver he could take it back the only thing he's is going to happen to him he's going to get a little bit of a curse of M Parkers but other than that you can take back the deal so now the says don't say back if you're telling me that it's he was trying to pay with the silver coins have a so that makes a lot of sense because the gold is considered the product and the silver coins are the currency and therefore we know you cannot purchase anything with money money is not a k money is not a Kon what is a Kon but if what was going on here in this little skit that just happened was AIP story so what in the world is the difference if the guy lifts up a gold coin or a silver coin or a yamaka or a handkerchief what's the difference when you lift something up the other guy is to give you he has to complete the the sale so what's the difference each one should be kinding for the if that guy lifts up the silver the other guy should be kinding of the gold and if this guy lives up the gold other guy should be cut the silver it'sin so what do you see from here we're not dealing within we're dealing with K and K doesn't work you just by me lifting up the gold coin I owe the other guy money I could pay him in a year from now if I'm a bad guy but I acquire this by lifting it up and also something very similar we said what's a good case of where the coins don't the silver coins don't acquire the gold he sold him 25 uh silver coins for one dinner of gold and we said right that in the time of the gar time of the t t was given time of we're in the time of the T but when was given one golden coin was equal 25 silver coins T asked how's the possible today it's only 12 times the amount we said that today it's 85 times the amount 85 silver coins equals one golden coin that was on Friday today I don't know what the went up down what is it today I'm just curious to know when back down to 83 when I looked it up was 83 you said 85 maybe now it's 90 who knows now that I one thing is good that whatever the Iran stock market is in the Mish down down down gal what6 86 it went up a little bit galdi okay huh for years it was 1 to 12 it was it was it was very very fixed for a thousand years is 1 to 12 as TS has a t lived in in those thousand years and they didn't understand that there's a there's a market that it could go up and down it didn't make sense to them for for hundreds and hundreds of years before fixed by the Roman Empire fixed by the Roman Empire comes up with a whole that you just double that the weight was double that's why it's really 1 to 12 1 to 12 means 1 to 25 because just double weight okay fine okay Ion in SCH Bergs here it is oh I wasn't joking coin was 7.24 G 7.24 G here give it to me pass it down let's show it but you're saying the golden coin was double you talking about two types of gold coins not not silver and gold no silver and gold no but silver and gold is one 12 you said all of a now it's double yeah but it's 25 so it's 12 should be 12 25 uhuh the well no don't get it but okay fine you have to read it you have to read twice the also oh it's twice okay I hear what you're saying it's it's 12 times the value because it's silver and it's gold but it's also doubl away got it fine now I get it fine where are we even though he did on the silver he's not if you're talking about I understand why there's no what's the difference he made he lifted this should be the beginning we're talking about the is very similar to our but it explains it he sold one golden coin for 25 Silver once he he does on the on the gold so the silver becomes his wherever it is now I understand you areed everywhere but if doing a k of nothing to do with your coin the you're not so what happened is you owe him those silver coins you don't acquire those silver coins in fact we're talking about a what does it mean everywhere as is like you told him I want I'm Gonna Give You brand new coins then you can't give him older coins why even though older coins for some reason are better than newer coins my time I guess people rely on them more that they were ready circulation they're not my I want new coins because I needed to last me for a year or two if you give me older coins they go bad on me so that's that's what it means the way it is that's how I want it that's what we're sticking to have a wonderful evening I go to V see you tomorrow right and early b everything should go well say a