Daf Yomi Bava Metzia Daf 2 by R’ Eli Stefansky

[Music] morning welcome welcome to all the guests welcome to all the new guys first of all all a long one a difficult one today we are starting a much easier one a more familiar one I'd like to welcome like to welcome all the new guys that were M that are coming for the very first time to MD y we didn't quite reach our goal of a thousand but we got to about 700 new people which is unbelievable and last night by the Hebrew share we had over a thousand new participants for the Hebrew share so for the Hebrew we reached the goal you guys let me down a little bit on the English but that's that's okay we'll take 700 and as we usually do the beginning of M all the guys that are that are here and familiar you go to sleep for about 10 minutes come back we have boyi Robert links with us big it's a big and we have a guest from Boston sh what's your name weer I don't know if you guys remember but the in Boston sent me a beautiful set of mdy knives this goes back two three years he's one of the guys what's your name you look very familiar familiar with the doing a little Kazar doesn't hurt to go through some of the pros and the cons of D because it's good to familiar familiarize yourself with it because people when you try to get somebody to join the DA they will throw some of these things to you and when you're familiar with them you [Laughter] know know what to answer the [Music] ker so a lot of people tell you that is not for me because it's too fast I can't Rec call anything I don't retain anything these are all goodas every single one is a gooda a big oneand that I encounter especially from people especially from people that went to Yeshiva and went through the Yeshiva system they say Maya said the only way to learn is be have to learn deep this is too P this too you don't know what flying you're not really learning it's not considered learning that's a big one and the the answer to that is they might be right but for the most part we are balaba we are learning and don't be that guy and I heard this a number of times people looked at me with all seriousness and they said this line they said I only learn it happens to be that I haven't learned in 20 years but when I learn it's only be and that's what we're coming to combat we saying no there's other ways to learn and this is the most convenient most consistent way to learn that I know of and that is the da another big problem with is that many people have started and off the bandwagon it's a very common thing you get all excited you start today start it's a tough day to start on a Friday really it's probably the toughest day of the week to start because you come into shabas you come to Sunday and for that we have a trick you got to do this trick and over the years I've had many fights in emails and in person with people that they're smarter than this trick almost every single one of them came back to say Hey you were right so I'm telling you I'm warning you now don't don't fight it just this is for the Turning of the D the new turning of the D when I read it for the first time I cried I hope I don't cry when I read it now but you have to wait for the Turning of the D after that um the trick is very very simple and it worked for so many people and that's why we have a very very high retention rate the trick is that when you fall off because you will fall off it's inevitable that's how life is there's the life cycles there's weddings there's there's all sorts of there bris and there's Le other things and people fall off but the trick is not to try to make it up because when you try to make it up that's when you fall behind even more you keep on getting to a bigger and bigger hole the trick is you do the D with everybody where you find out okay we're holding you know I'm inest now forget it I'm going now to B that's where everybody is start and eventually you make it up Robert links you might have a couple plot that you need to make up from here to there but it's Bader right now we're starting B Robert is the one that designed this Bas measur this beautiful base measur he designed it he's with us all the way from the beginning I just haven't seen him in a year and I'm very excited to see him what you still with the Y beautiful oh you oh you started from join you know what I'll say you a quick story since you're here we were in a house of one of our he did a and we're sitting there from the four people me and no were smoing and the whole entire it was like a the whole entire time I'm hacking them about the D you got to join the D you got to join the da what are you doing this that how much do you learn how much don't you learn getting into their business and hearing all these excuses we come out of this and no tells me Ellie what a waste of time why do you waste your time with these guys and you know what all four of these people are part of the da today and a very big part of the da right and he says since that day he's been with us Robert Le Robert is one of those people so you keep on making up you also you were there too oh you were one of the four people no so not Stam the editor the guy that puts it all together so anyways okay I take credit for bringing you great anyway you're going to hear a lot of people tell you they have they have this I don't have time these are all excuses of why they don't do the da but let's talk about the milus my favorite saying I hope I coined it if not please forgive me but it's not about the D it's about the Y you know we have it in English also it's not about the D it's about the Y meaning and it's it's a nice phrase but what does it mean it means D is not about doing a da it's about learning every single day and learning consistently and we learn every single day literally never will you find that we do two because tomorrow is not a good day to do she every single day most uncomfortable day so to speak on mimer when nobody wants to learn you're tired you're you have a headache on P when you're drunk on Tish every single day of the year 365 that consistency as hard as it is that brings a tremendous power to your day to your life and it goes into all other areas of your life all of a sudden you find yourself doing mikra you start working out you start being a better person the whole thing now talking about that the da don't ask me how but in particular this she makes you a better person how do I know because I hear it from literally hundreds and hundreds of people I said the other day I'll say it again a guy flew in specifically he was here in the share should have brought him to the front he was here yesterday Ellie Eli AER Ellie Eli AER he flew in for less than 24 hours to tell me these words he says this for the see him and to say these words that's what he told me I flew in to tell you you changed my life I know you heard it a thousand times I just want to tell you again changed my life and then he brought that r that he is a shy person by nature but because he wanted to bring more people to the DA he bang on the be after from of hundreds of people and scream out the D is starting a new come join ask me if you have any questions so that consistency the da brings consistently many other areas in life and now just for a few uh cartoons is the right way to learn that's when he's young he's on and then many many years later 50 years later he's done enough gimel and this is not good I'll tell you why this is not good because in you get to learn what you learn in this world and if all you learned is one or two da that's what you get to learn there it's going to be kind of boring to go through the same D over and over and over it's K let me see what kind of sock oh same socks he never Chang his socks this [Laughter] guy the other thing is it goes in one ear goes out the other ear but you should know that um and I'm I'm going to fa you guys to see even today it's the the subway New York Subway I don't remember anything maybe I should read a magazine instead but that that's the big thing what are you what are you doing instead that's the big question okay um what else do we have here and this is just the uh saying oh it's in Hebrew today but basically um learn now uh How does it go skip now learn uh no what is it up keep up now catch up later keep up now catch up later all right rabai um just want to show you real quickly one picture of the north Jersey and Mum that happened last night we'll show you more pictures as they come along we had a beautiful scene for the Hebrew speaking people in my house last night how many people showed up Benny 80 people was a beautiful turnout M beautiful and uh bem they all stick together I want to show you this is something that we do on a typical day on on a first day of we typically don't do it but because this is a little different yesterday a big sadic was killed his name was ziger ziger Iger he was 57 years old and why am I telling you this first of all look at this video this guy was on his way into battle and what is he doing he's learning Tyro but what was interesting that when he got killed yesterday he was carrying Garis the art scr gar for he was delivering he's on the way to deliver garas we give out free garas that's why it touched me he was on the way to give out those free garas that the shatenstein printed for theim that's what he they found the box with him that he's a huge he's part of m z you know this pictures with him the zaka things every every he was in the fire department all day and that's another thing a lot of people want to accept upon themselves extra learning now is a great opportunity to learn extra for the for the hostages for the and the par ofes who my son rebell who's myself and the entire on the birth of aon's daughter Sophia R which is by the way a huge it's every time you have a grandchild and kid it's a big Sim but for those of you who are new for us it's a very very special Sim we we had a lot of um lot of history withon and for him to have a kid tremendous the okay I don't need a tiue it's give me a tissue please I'm just kidding I got I got thank you yeah okay please don't show that toone thank you and teaching you never know what triggers it I've said this 20 times already maybe more Robert fras in loving memory of Baltimore Maryland in honor of our son for the mon mil Anonymous for this for easy child birth his daughter and healthy baby don't think it's too late even though it's the first day of you could still bring a friend you could still tell somebody about it it's never too late but especially today which is the first day oh where's your brother he is okay join.com boy say Here We Go I want to show you a quick video that y see clim put together didn't really see it because it just came out late last night you have it all right here we go it's super ad that's why I love it it's galic go you're not going to believe this is starting in just a few days yall remember when your kids in school the very very firstar you learn you know why cuz it's fun it's so join us join us B is coming up in just few [Music] days okay you're not going to believe this no it's okay it's okay say there we believe you jump into this if you think about it like they said in London like doar said so beautifully it's only 80 hours that's how long it'll take you to finish 80 hours of your time it's approximately 4 months make a big and have a lot of fun on the way you have two people holding on to a garment doesn't necessarily mean the towels that we wear every morning means a garment you found in the street a argument each one says I found it so typically speaking in Chas when one person is holding on to the Garment not two so we have the concept called I know it's a very famous concept but maybe the is not as familiar and to know for this it's the burden of the other person to to bring the proof one person is holding on to it so it's his but since two people are holding on to the same so there's argument there one says it's entirely mine other one says it's entirely mine are we talking about two different cases here or it's one case they're both saying I found it and the both saying I it's completely mine it seems like it's one case in fact the gar is going to say it's two different cases it's telling us two different things each one makes a swears that he doesn't have less than a half of it and each one swears the same thing and they divide it evenly so typically speaking one must follow the other there has to be some sort of connection between especially we learned sh but what's the connection so T says the connection is because we just finished saying that if a person has a small ax and he's chopping wood for somebody he has to give the pieces you keep the pieces if it's a larger ax he can't keep the pieces it's a question of the vision so we're continuing the the vision the Rah says because in the to the which we're talking about bakama are right before of which we're talking about in b I just want to show you quickly this was running around I got this from a number of people so this has to do with us a lot because it's actually our gamarra it's a mdy gamar and it says two people fighting over the last three gar each one says it's his okay and now rabai for a small quick um 3D animation what just happened here that's a mdy sweatshirt does anybody have one of those on not really today oh you do yeah give it to me beautiful but you missed the thing you all looking at me unfortunately you're going to have to watch this again how do I know you were looking nobody laughed this guy says Kish kly okay okay okay and then they're fighting and fighting in front of VZ and boom [Laughter] Oh anyways fighting over this thank you no no it's a little out of control similar but different so we have it over here two people are fighting over a sweatshirt this guy says the entire thing is mine and the other one says half of it is mine so in other words the one that says half it half of it is mine admits that the other half is the other guys it's not his so the whole argument is on the white part on half that's the whole argument and therefore the is very different he's going to take three quarters why because he's arguing over a half the whole arguments is on half so they're going to divide that half so turns out that he gets three quarters and therefore he should swear make a that he doesn't have less than three parts he make that not getting that it doesn't own less than one quarter this guy takes three and this guy takes a quarter great question the is there [Music] beautiful okay okay so the question is let me ask you a question if the whole argument is not on the red it's only on the white so why is the guy that says the whole entire thing is mine why does he have to make a on three quarters there is no argument on three quarters the argument is only on half on a quarter so let him swear that at least one quarter is mine the other guy at least one quarter is mine that's it why does he have to swear on the red part also which the other guy admits that is his it's a good question no so the answer is one of the answers that we're concerned that if he doesn't swear on the three quarters he might just go over to random person start grabbing things that are not his he'll add to what is really his so there's also something called the Gil sh so we make him make sh on everything another problem is that t brings up here is why is it that the person that says says half is his he should be believed because he's being he's being very honest he could also say the whole thing is mine the fact that he's being honest and he's saying half his is he should be believed that's called a MIG as a MIG so let let's believe him that he's that he's saying the truth that half is his say t because he's trying to take away from the other person you do not use a MIG to take away from another person excuse me what yeah but that's something else there's no over that's say you owe me money he's not this not a sense says now it's the same idea same exact case basically just in a different format two people are riding on top of an animal oh I have a picture how it looks exactly it's count interesting here two individuals riding horse it's the same idea two people are on top of the animal or one person on top one person is leading the Miss is telling us that a guy that leads and the guy that rides it's the same thing you're still controlling the S same thing as we had in the each one is arguing each one says the animal's completely mine each one swears he doesn't have less than a half when they divide the animal or divide the monetary value of the if they admit that each one owns a half seems like there's no great we'll see everything in the says [Music] the here we go you want to see it inside this is I mean even brings the words but it seems like the same case now just to explain if you knew to to or you forgot it's the gar is written in a very very special format it's written in a format of a of a rebi to talm a back and forth a question and answer sometimes the questions are not the strongest questions in the world but they're there for the format and to bring a point out if this was a would bring this case and say there's two cases here it's like this it's like this or whatever it is the is trying to show how from the mishna we understand that we're talking about two separate cases it cannot be one case and goes through all the steps I'll prove it to you that it cannot be one case although it seems like like it's one case if we were just to learn it the same guy that says I found it says the whole thing is mine one case let's go home but that's not what's going on it's two completely two separate cases and each case has a to it says the why do I need to say this whole lengthy discussion this one says it's I found it I found it I think the whole thing is M just say either each one says I found it or each one says the whole thing is mine says you're right fact it's one case now we're in the we think it's one case that what it's really he's saying one sentence I found it the entire thing is mind the big problem is that doesn't say that it says it says four times it's not like you're saying as symbol as you're saying it's one sentence it's mine I found it and it's completely mine okay so just say that part I found it and I'll know from that that the entire thing is mine there's a story Bo the guy was on a train in Belgium and he was kind of bored and he got on his knees he looked over the cheer and he couldn't believe it he saw a gold ring with a diamond so he reaches down he can't get to it so he looks at his friend the basketball player 6'4 you remember he has these long lengthy skinny long arms he says do me a favor get me my ring I just found the guy goes it's the ring and then he's about to give it to him he starts thinking wait a minute why should I give it to you I'm not your I didn't do it because you asked me I I found like guy says no I saw it I found it what do you mean so who's that like what's that like who gets to keep the ring the basketball player it's POS it P it but he know about it he didn't know about it the other guy saw at first who the first guy could he could take a stick he get this that he'll get he just ask so says and then you of course once you say the story you can mention AB rottenberg's story Journeys that this guy it's a beautiful story we got to say it this couple got married and on the night of the the K lost her ring she came the joke of the family people made fun of her they called her different names and they were walking few months later they're walking and the husband put his hand in his coat over there and he and he found the ring and uh so of course they told the family and they were all excited and everybody made fun of him he started making fun of this guy it was the joke for years until many many years later the the the wife she found the original ring hidden somewhere and she realized that her husband in order to take away the busha from his wife he just made a copy and uh he took that bua and he took those names for all those years okay says you're asking me should just say the first part the red shouldn't say the green just say the red people like to say especially kids I found it what do you mean you found it how did you find it you saw it that's different with looking at something alone you're not you have to acquire you have to lift it up I would think that even if it doesn't reach my hand I just see it I should be just by seeing it so therefore the mishna continues and says the green to teach us that by looking at it alone you're not so I want to tell you something I heard this from my good meni sitting right over here this individual right over here he told me a good V he said you know this Baba which means the first Baba B the middle Baba bab the SEC the last Baba he says no you also look at it as it's middle of all the bubas it's fun it's it's easy we're familiar with it all our lence beelman sent me a whole email of 30 RAB that he learned by and he learned all these thank you to this rean this re this rean this re all every time every word I'm going to learn and I'm going to remember you so he says but it's not good enough to be oh just take the gamar I got a free gamar put on a shelf I was kind you have to acquire it and what does that mean means that sometimes you come home at 1:30 in the morning get into your PJs you snuggle into bed it's allach you're about to fall asleep and all of a sudden you know that knock on your head hello hi you forgot to do the da tomorrow I'm already in bed tomorrow you get out of the bed and you do it on three and a half speed whatever it is but did it that's that's to acquire it that's to to say okay now I have a this I didn't just see it I did something to be Co and I have to tell you this B now it's not it's also the first day and I don't like to go into these things on the first day but being that meni told me this V and seven and a half years ago I sat with meny in the B Med we Shar the same seven and a half years ago he said Ellie I want to do what you do I don't want to be a diamond dealer anymore I want to spend more time learning I forgot the name of the Su what was the name of the Su what is it called when they they they put the trees away you don't even remember yourself we'll get there and ding somewhere and I said yeah yeah yeah sure uhhuh yeah you just continue with you Di and he sold his business he bought some real estate but here's a here's an example right in front of us a person who spends the entire morning learning to hello I should take the every day you got to share some of this bush also this guy a bu too all right so anyways he sits with b and he learns over here in the morning and can you can make a change if you want to it wasn't it wasn't the worst time in the world to get into real estate in Bish seven and a half years ago you did okay says gar could you say that that when I found it means I saw it the word to find means that you acquired it in your hands so let me ask you a question and if you really really know the answer don't even answer when was the last time you saw this the word means that it came into your hand not not you okay so don't be embarrassed we had this less than a week ago word for word in the gamar word for word and like I said sometimes it goes in one ear goes out the other literally word for word this so you look in the side at the end of so what's going on over there is that the is talking about if you found an item that's owned by a idol worshipper a non-jew you're not to give it back so says but maybe it means only if you look at it and you you can pass by you don't have to pick it up and deal with it but what if you took it into your possession do you have to give it back then says no because means that you acquired it you took it into your possession and still it's a only to to a Jew you see the word means that you you picked it up you're not just looking at it say you're right is right when the says it actually means when you acquired it you took it but our he's talking like human beings like regular what's the vernacular what how do people say when people say you found it I found it I found the house what does it mean I found the house you picked it up you saw it you heard about it so mean you saw something and therefore we're going to tell you you're not you don't acquire just by looking at it [Music] when he sees it he says I found it even though he didn't it didn't come to his hands just by seeing it you would think you would think that that's why the M continues with the green words to tell us that just looking at it does not acquir and so just say just say the green typically speaking in the in the rest of the the rest of the talks about so think okay over there you could acquire it by seeing it only by us in our Miss so it says both the red and the [Music] green from the extra wording here teaches us for the rest of the you cannot acquire something just by looking at it as the so finally we said we said the whole it's talking about one case but how can you say that it's one case look at all those so it can't be one case and some people say it's the person named says mean just anonymous there's two cases here finding an item and purchasing an item sometimes two people purchase the same it I'll tell you story I know we're L I'll say it really quick you heard the story but if not if you knew when I was a b one of my friends said there's a guy from Berlin getting married and he lives in Belgium we have to do a Mitzvah we have to go to his wedding nobody's going to his wedding I can't afford it he say I'll tell you how we afford it there's the Boss suit outlet in stutgart Germany and over there they sell boss suits for two three hundred bucks you know how much a Boss suit is worth it's worth thousands ker I said okay sounds like a great idea I went to Manhattan I saw a store selling it for thousands of dollars so I put up signs of mendon's pizza that's the one place I remember I put up different places big kman sell the suit for $400 I make like a 100 bucks a suit if I sell 10 suits I'll 10 people foolish enough to give me 400 bucks in advance and I took the money and I flew to Germany with this guy we get the stutgart and the facto is there and I couldn't believe it hundreds of people in line waiting to get into the factory what is going on there the factory opens people start running like babies running I have a list I have to get my suits I have a my friend the whole thing so I started looking but the problem is it wasn't in English it wasn't in American sizes European sizes and everybody gave me 38 and 42 and over here it's 99 and I don't know what it gets there there's a whole chart fight I get my suits and I'm like my final suit I come back to my pile it's gone so I look around real quickly I see a nice German good Midas walking around with my pile I said it's my pile he says no you put it down I said it's mine kids are all fight M and then he says you know you could have it but maybe you could sell it to me I'll buy I'll give you another hundred bucks I said if there's not there's no other suit in your size no I need a black suit I'm performing tonight in a concert I need a black suit I said I'm sorry it's for and I can't sell it to you this what happened was when I got back the puts on the suit and the sleeves are up to here and the suit is to the ground it look like a frck what happened I told he's a very slim guy and I told the lady he needs like a 36 I don't know she's 36 now yish in German everything is the opposite you say the small number and the large number so instead of saying 48 which is she said 84 you need 84 84 so I got him a size 84 so this guy got a Frack for his so I said forget it let's give it to somebody else let's sell he says no I need a boss I only want a Boss suit so what are you he says don't worry I'm going to take it to the Taylor kid I come to this and I couldn't believe my eyes couldn't believe my eyes you know how suits have a pocket over here his pocket was on the bottom of the suit right over here not joking he she left the packet the tailor she just cut cut cut and she but the packet was over there and he's like he's flashing suit look boss boss it his boss the wholeass he's bossing okay fine the we're talking about two people that bought the same item and the gar is going to tell us that they both pay for it's not exactly like my story I was I don't know what I put in a pile it didn't pay yet Hally maybe that guy could have taken it but the sa is talking about a completely story says sponsor I I'm not going to cry now so first of all the first sponsors is by kov Ze my uncle the second sponsor listen to this of Baltimore Maryland I'm choking up already in honor of fishal and Sim thanks to them 137 people learned 16,1 166 dpim over 700 th000 minutes of with mdy one person fishal grow 727 th000 minutes of Tyra unbelievable say we need both cases and the person is means to rationalize yourself every a we do is a rationalization people steal they only steal when they rationalize they say that guy is so wealthy he doesn't care what does he care or I have something better to do than that guy let me do this if you think hasem really cares if I do this and this they rationalize and over here there's a rationalization and he says he found it big deal so I'm going to take it from him he didn't lose anything he almost came into money now he didn't come so therefore I put I invoke he's not going to want to lie but when it comes to buying and selling literally by the story with my suit what am I going to do I don't have a suit where you going to find the suit you have to go somewhere else you have to start being so there there is no T oh what did he lose he lost a lot he he has to go and and work hard to find another suit go to another boss place maybe he shouldn't shouldn't oh maybe no if I don't see the case of buying and selling so I would say only over there rationalization we both paid for it listen I really need it for my concert let me buy I'm going to take it no that guy caught it firstes let him go to another place let him but he'll still get another suit he's not going to lose that completely but when you find the a ring can't see oh let him go another place and find the ring there is no other ring it's one M that's it maybe you don't invoke you only inv when a person rationalizes he's not a bad guy he's just rationalizing give him a little sh back off from his rationalization but when a person is not rationalizing he's a real bad person he's doing you can't give him a because he's gonna lie we don't want people to do I need both cases ask the simple question typically speaking a seller has an in in one person is not believed you need two people but you could trust a seller he has a special we gave him Special cover and what's the word neas we gave neas to he's believed I sold him and that's usually when he's holding on to the over here he's not even holding on to it we still ask him who gave you the money here the proves he took money from both but he doesn't remember who gave it him first who gave it to him in will first first guy one guy gave it to him willingly one guy like put in his pocket without without asking and I don't know who did what now we're going to go through a few beautiful sugas including tomorrow we touched upon some of them in but it's great and if you're new to this it's great say perhaps the mishna is not like Banas so I want to show you this real quickly there was a great and he says that when he came to America from Europe he was why because he learned this very G with the the Americans and when he read this G they all burst out laughing and he realized that they thought he said bananas bananas and he he said such aim such babies I'm teaching babies here bananas made him and he realiz he's in America he's in America anyways says Banas Lov it he was laughing his head off you guys just don't get the joke oh so here is a concept in ch called the shopkeeper with his little notebook here's a picture of his notebook when he writes things down now we're talking about a shopkeeper and we're talking about a worker and it goes like this there's three people actually there's the employer there's the worker and there's a shopkeeper the employer tells his worker instead of me giving you cash for all your work you did this week go to the shop and buy up all your groceries I'll take care the bill he goes to the shopkeeper he says by the way when my worker comes here in it's very very everybody's familiar with it you have a a bill you go your kids go we used to have a bill for mdy and all of a sudden it was 40,000 shek a month we had no idea what's going on milk is only a th whatever you have these bills so you tell the shopkeeper you take care of schy schy takes care of the whatever at the end of the month the shopkeeper comes to the employer and says okay pay me up your worker came and spend 10,000 she so okay the problem is the worker comes to the employer and says you have to pay me for this month he says I thought you went to the shop he says no I never made it to the shop went to the shop and the shop guy says no so now we have a problem here one person is lying either the worker or the shopkeeper they both want money from the employer so tanak says the is both of them swear the problem is says bananas you can't both swear because one of them is going to swear falsely 100% one of them is going to swear falsely and to swear falsely is the worst thing in the world people don't even swear when it's true they rather pay the money than to swear when it's EMS why would they swear when it's false why would we invoke that's guaranteed to be a problem we make a when you have a suff he might lie and the will force him not to lie says cannot be and our cannot be and our can be keeps on going through all these why because he says somebody's going to be lying here both swear one of them is swearing false over there by the shopkeeper and the worker somebody's lying over here it's possible to say here is a case that not everybody's lying they both saying the truth both of them lifted it up together okay says the gar it's possible yeah it's possible both grabbed at the same millisecond okay fine different story maybe our what yeah how how's it okay let's go will afterwards is good now check this I'll show you this case and no this is a classic case of M meaning without anybody seeing the story we don't have video we don't have any eyewitnesses zero who over here owes money to check this out there's a cow oops sorry went through it too fast no yeah this is a story in bakama here's somebody's cow here's another individual's bull one thing's for sure the bull gored the cow the issue is that there's a little baby dead on the side and the question is when exactly was the baby born right before the cow was gored or after was it caused by the bull or wasn't it was not caused by the bull at all so that's a question that we'll never know the answer to that's so what do you do when you never you can never figure it out nobody swear How could somebody swear oh I swear uh you're you can't swear you don't know what happened we're not there's no question that you can't swear so what do you do he says you divided evenly the owner of the ax has to pay without a so it can't be him because in our case that they're both arguing we don't know what the answer is let them divide it but without a you going tell me it goes according to hey he what does that mean if say you need a so what if you need a so in our case in our Mish either it should be without a or just leave it there until comes but according to ra it's no better we didn't gain anything according to ra you wouldn't do AA with a either without a or you just leave it until Mia comes no it makes more sense to go according to it could go better it makes more sense it fits with when there's a bull and an axe nobody grabbed anything nobody's holding on to anything just who not no one sorry one is holding on who's holding on the owner of the ax he's holding on to his own money you want to extract money from his pocket you want him to pay 50% to the owner of the of the cow but not both of them are holding on to nevertheless that's why say you the owner of the cow prove it when both are holding on to it equally so divided down the middle with swear so it makes more sense it goes like it fits nicely with RAB says it doesn't fit so nicely with if there's only one person holding on to his money by the the owner of the ax you divide it without swearing without a according to certainly you should divide it without swearing why does the say you have to make a in a where you where do you divide without a when both are uncertain the owner of the cow the owner of the bull they're uncertain see div when it comes to two people that are certain it's mine the whole thing is mine then you have to swear with without even when both are certain M how can our say that you have to make a sh he's saying even holds even when you're certain you don't make says you do make scary word but not so scary was talking about in a case where there's a loss a monetary loss what does the word d mean and that's such a great word in English in in yes or in yish in Hebrew there a of money there's a loss of money so by the animal dead on the side somebody's losing money somebody's going to lose money here by a find you found something you didn't lose anything so okay so you're going to go home now with the same amount of money you had a minute ago you thought you made a million dollars you thought you found a $10,000 ring so you didn't it's not a loss of money also by buying so I didn't get the suit but I got my money back there's no loss no no so he would need a according to it fits right into the mishna you would need a when there's a l there's no but in our since there's no L's no you need a in other words one of them is going to lose money with this dead cow says like another addition to the question it's to say 100% this guy deserves his money 100% this guy since we don't know what to do you divided without but over here where it's possible that both of them lifted up this garment simultaneously both of them own half like you should divide it without swearing without a says by the way this year is at 8:30 and in Hebrew at A4 to 10 not to say that this sh in English is going to be hour and 50 minutes just to give the English people time to get out right we have a special sh here really it should be without a at all but we are concerned for something like this let me show you real quickly this kind of thing a guy goes over to a random person start shpping his stuff hey it's mine we don't want people to start fighting with everybody so you say you know what sh time according to shouldn't be a but in this case because we don't want people to start grabbing things from other people that everybody should go and grab the Garment of his friend therefore they invoke the special have a wonderful day we'll see you tomorrow night good [Music] job