Daf Yomi Bava Kama Daf 88 by R’ Eli Stefansky

[Music] good morning rap Weinstein I saw this car in I noticed something interesting on it it had a magnet here I'll show youal magnet if I could oh my husband does the da that was me it was you huh so I I thought it wasn't you I thought it was your brother why because listen to this it says over here he tells me that his father helps Ellie stansky I asked him who's his father he says AI kamansi so Kaminsky I I thought he's like my best friend because the truth is I it seems like I know him every single day I hear his name and it gave me a lot of Cruz it says all the way from the Cru now the sh is and I said this last night if it was sh I could I he says my father but you yourself do the dve you said I do the dve it's awesome because you don't do the dve you're just dve in here okay fine I got it for now this gave me a lot ofes my son Isel and I are currently spending Yeshiva week on a road trip from Phoenix to Los Angeles this is Mark ashkanazi while cruising Route 10 through Arizona California desert span we spotted a sign for Desert Hot Springs I immediately recall that one of our daily Zoom attendees is Jeff Rosenberg when he joined the da he told me that he lives here Jeff is doing the da at least two three years with us I remember Jeff I think it was like uh maybe two years ago he bought a Suka was like a big thing to buy the Suka in desert at Springs listen to this he's driving down the highway what do he do he gets off the highway and he calls Jeff was super nice to meet him how quickly an hour goes by when you meet another MD wire middle of the desert Mark ashkanazi de belly it's like meeting somebody in middle of Panama says there spoiler of his throat you did okay over there great huh good food did you get him back is he back in the D what's going on with Michael cooh he's he's doing he's going St okay de belly you've been mentioning different stories and pictures who's that ah Mark Mark tell me the truth did you think about visiting before you saw the side or was was spontaneous spontaneous that's unbelievable MD y there he got off seriously thank you for keeping up who's thisi K is herei come come sit down we they just finished Shak so that's why it's a little balag over [Music] here oh now I hear you Mark I was about to warn you that was on the way ah listen I now I noticed something this is the first time somebody on Zoom is able to speak and I now I realize it's you that don't allow anybody to speak you only allow yourself you Val I know know but anyways it was it was unbelievable meeting Jeff everybody on Zoom knows himal hi Jeff if you're watching now I don't know do you see Jeff on Zoom now okay we go V there mark seriously Mar for keeping up with all the guys and keeping him in it takes just a few individuals like yourself just a few individuals like yourself makes the whole thing come together like IFI Klein Yus Klein also calls up people seriously calls this that come sit over here stop with that NOA give me you've been mentioning different stories and pictures of learning the D on a cruise a spectacular Cruise recently which had Fresh Kosher service food plus a set up I was able to learn the D on my balcony when we DED at for location I watch you on our phone from the Bahamas huras Kaz Anda day it can be done by the way we were to have our granddaughter Ricky rman get married this oh this Thursday in New York respect Rabbi is rman y's father is a good friend of mine here he is you can see the other B bonies in the picture it's a cool it's cool this picture it's not like a it's not like a picture in the background those are many many balconies on the cruise ship oh and out of my husband Dove eisenberger's birthday I think that sponsoring a day of Da would be such a precious gift for him your ability to relate to capture the hearts and minds of so many people has influenced doi to commit to doing the da brought her your voice into her home do is a selfless and giving individual he's looking to help and do for others he amazing me in all all wives of mdy take note how you write a letter about your husband do and giving indidual always looking to help and do for others amazing me and all that he does supporting us being so involved engaged in every aspect have our homeless children's lives his commitment to community service keeps expanding expanding he's a tremendous role model for all of us in body's the principal wish my wish is that hem should bless him with continued strength time and re resources to be even a bigger my additional wish is that each part we are all doing for whether learning supporting the IDF will bring a swift G and end to this war we be to see the hostages return home slavy says would learn the when he had a free moment when fighting in Gaza he kept learning as a top priority on the dire circumstances in his Merit I encourage more to take the da upon themselves to do the da sincerely R eisenberger and finally we have one last one just wanted to tell you a story about a big sadic that I know connected to yesterday's D when his son was a kid maybe eight nine years old he was playing ball and accidentally broke a broke a car window since he was poter he didn't pay years later when a son became by Mitzvah he showed up to the person's house and paid for his window I also wanted to say that I personally feel that it's better when a kid does something without asking my four-year-old son J was misbehaving and then once he calmed down he came to me all by himself and said Daddy I'm sorry for fighting with you was that that was the first time he did it by himself and I had so muchas anyways here's the video of him AB BR I love this video because I'm from Brooklyn and I get it here we go good morning RAB boy what's your name Z where you from Brooklyn New York Brooklyn New York you train the young huh huh ah he is a good he's from Brooklyn New York oh ah Brooklyn New York last day reell thank you and the last day in memory of ear from Anonymous in Manchester joined the at the beginning of of our fathers in h of my husband from angle wood birthday huh I guess it just says angle Woods on his e yard side he sorely missed by his tal the art of the month sponsor anly for the for easy child birth for his daughter and a healthy baby the question today is let's say I know someone what I don't know who put him on there maybe Dave oh I like to take over the whole [Laughter] screen you're on a r you're on a roll I'm thinking about going to to Florida soon and uh for two three days and I'm looking for repl you ready to take over okay no we don't know it's will decide so I know somebody personally not not from not my daughter so I'm not hting here I know a girl who received from her father a nursing home when she was like 16 17 years old a nursing home and then she got married so that's called she comes into the marriage with property and the would be that the husband gets all the profits of the nursing home but the nursing home Still Remains under her name it's her nursing home so the nursing home is the Goof the prophets are the pis and now here's the question what happens if the wife decides to sell the nursing home is it a sale or not a sale the fact that the husband gets to keep all the profits is that just a benefit of his or does that show that he actually has some ownership here what happens if the husband sells anybody what if the wife sells the nursing home during their marriage does it work or not [Laughter] okay so we're gonna have a whole B just on that and what's interesting is sometimes I find interesting in bakama that a lot of the Amud they might be long but they're basically saying a single concept the single idea and just almost repetitive very wordy let's call it very wordy unlike a which sometimes just says a couple words you have to uh you have to figure out from those words what's going on over here it's a lot of words we're holding we had that I forgot to ask for it so we're holding four lines from the top says in the mishna if you go ahead and give an a non-jewish wound has a little blood in it so you have to pay everything says you don't have to pay for a slave is not in the category of BU my time where did he get it from famous we had it a bunch of times in this even it's two men are fighting and it says the word my brother his brother so if you look all the way at the end of the says one of the wives comes to save her husband her husband from the one that's beating him up I wish they would say they teach this in in and to hit a friend somebody that hits is of [Music] pen two for two so but she comes she decides to save her husband is of in a place a hidden place she grabbed him so it says like this the and go together in order to be in the par of you have to be you have to be a brother a slave doesn't have he's not a he's not a he's not a brother when yobu came to and he saw the the Shepherds he says a brother so says why say because when you give somebody you have to be a brother you have to feel like a brother we're brothers yeah here happens and I've seen it with my own eyes guy cut somebody off a little road rage gets out of his car gives a nice curse the other guy says to him and they like and then all a they real wait a minute they start hugging and kissing he says if we go back the famous we learn a slave from a woman just like a woman has Mitzvah so to a slave has the basic Mitzvah has the the mitz so we have this okay comes out is according to rud a slave is not a brother according to a slave is a brother it's a big what you have to be a brother for certain things you have to be we're going to see in a second the this is today this is here very very simple very easy flowing gar that what againa says a slave is not a brother say slave is a brother so now let's go through [Music] it if two people come along and they say this slave we saw him kill somebody come two other people and say no you're with us on a cruise ship what should we do to those two Aiden that said that lied and said that the slave killed somebody so typically speaking if that testimony was for regular Jew they would kill those two you have to kill them but it says in the P let's see oh here had a had a crown so according to you that a slave is not a so you telling me that if they try to kill a slave they're not going to die there's no zo the you're right typically speaking you're right he's not a and he shouldn't be in the par look at the end of the in this itself it says you should get rid of all the bad from within you that means people like this that try to kill slaves for no reason they lie and in fact it was proven that they were in a cruise at the time get rid of them kill them even though he's not according to you so here's the [Music] P should put a king for yourself be that's to be a brother at then the says you can't put somebody that's not a brother according to you that a slave is a brother why is he a [Music] brother so according to you should be we know he's not a slave not similar like even uh in America in order to be the the president of United States you have to be born have to certain certain rules you can't just pop up I want to be the president what about a a convert everybody according to everybody a g but we're not even talking about a g that converted we're talking about a g that was born from a gus even though she got pregnant when she was Jewish already so you think that somebody like that could be a king he can't be a king what is has to be the best of the best the top possible to be a king you have to have the top can't come from G have well Generations later generations takes a few gener the first generation now yeah you see that even a convert like rose eventually her grandchild was was was the king great grandchild the whole thing the first generation so now we're going to a little bit of a it's a tangent just to prove that a slave is POS according to you say according to you that say that a slave is so a slave should be but it's not true has to be your brother no to testify why nobody had a why he's no better than a woman yeah a woman certain things she's but not a woman is why we have to remember this has to be men so a woman who's able to marry into the community obviously you have to marry a Jewish woman she's able to marry Jews nevertheless so she went ahead and and spent a lot of time on this this is uh the witness box so you have a Aid we want to know if a Aid is is you say what about a woman prove for woman woman is nevertheless even though she could marry in she's so uh who's not Roy certainly posos could have a bris a woman can so bris is not such a great R because a could also have and then we say okay and we're going to go in a circle now say you got it smack MD will prove that he has so just has doesn't mean doesn't have any perhaps a slave should be why a woman will prove has MIT it's not the mitz that makes you it's not the it can't be the that makes you because child has a it can't be the Mitzvah that makes you because a woman has Mitzvah huh yeah what are you saying the what no we try to we try to knock we try to knock out the kid we try to say that evid is better than a child cuz the EV has Mitzvah and a child doesn't have mitz that's why EV should have we're saying that the Mitzvah is not good enough for the EV to have because a woman has Mitzvah and she doesn't have want to say that is why because he has a what a child isn't a child is a and he but a child doesn't have mitv and does have so therefore what be because he has mitz but mitz alone is not enough foros cuz the woman has Mitzvah goes in a circle it keeps going around in a circle once you say okay but another thing each one has a a positive and a negative but there's one common denominator they have one thing that's equal they don't have all the Mitzvah they don't have a child doesn't have any Mitzvah a woman has a lot of mitzvas but not all the mitzvas doesn't have all the MS so a child and a woman so to I'll prove from here that doesn't have all the Mitzvah and that's why he's POS you're asking me that according to slave should be why because he's considered a brother so I'm telling you yeah you're right he should be but he can't be any better than a woman and a woman is POS so was also this huh yeah okay good one true that's why that's why I I wrote herez but maybe Yoshi is rightz he has he has they want to be that he himself was something it's really his father did to him okay don't want to get into it so much but rash says it you're right saying that says that a little bit of so you go back to the don't forget it says you have to be a male a woman is not but is so why is should be says the gon so we're going to learn from the gaslin here's the gaslin gazin is a guy who's not scared of people he steals from them in the middle of the day and it says in the if a person is a Ain he's but a gaslin could get married to a Jewish woman he's POS and but so who cannot marry Jewish woman certainly he's if a gin isos so certainly should beos yeah with me all right [Music] see we have here oh little bit of a things not so necessary but okay why not entertainment you have two we're trying to prove from a gin that just like a Ginos uh is that what and he still so to evid who's cannot marry a Jewish woman it should be POS says look the God hasn't cus it on himself he didn't have Vera he he's a person who in this case he doesn't care about what he decided on his own he he's he's not Gus this to steal he doesn't care about stealing he cares about everything he's a very fin he's M he's very a lot of stuff he's part of the all the stuff he's m one of the one of the is not so is not his thing so guy like that he's auss so but it's he that caused it what about didn't do anything so therefore if we combine the gin and one of these other ones a woman or a c so you have like this they don't keep all the Mitzvah you hear what's going on here the go doesn't keep all the Mitzvah he keeps 612 Mitzvah one he doesn't keep and we're not talking about a guy right we're not talking about a guy that has a he he says this is not for him what I'm saying it's too too much for him I wish not that he doesn't have any he doesn't want to do any tra he doesn't SOA he's similar to a woman who doesn't have MIT not didn't choose that but similar they don't have all the Mitzvah so therefore is also again so how do I know that is from a combination of a gin and a woman or a gin and a cup says the reason why a slave is so here's the POS famous POS so me personally I don't know how you would read the P I always thought but I'm wrong just tell you my silly chot I thought I just heard recently that in certain uh countries Arab countries if let's say somebody murders somebody and runs away so they they get a hold of the family and they they they shed out the whole family why it's will'll stop people from murdering they won't if they murder they won't run away they don't want to they don't want to put their whole family in so the say maybe no that's not the so in sanedrin they say is the p is saying a very simple thing that two sons cannot testify against the father okay you can't be a relative and testify against your father and a father cannot testify against his son but it's not if that would be theat then it would would be better if it said because a son a father shouldn't die because of his sons because of the testimony of his sons Al seems like like a far-fetched thing Sons a father should die for because of sons not it doesn't say because be testimony Ben him because of the sons it's sounds how can you kill one if he's one out of the yeah okay that's not that's not the the is not the plural Thea is father shouldn't die Sons or be because means because of the sons because of the testimony of the sons it be more to say so let's see inside sorry we see from this first of all what we're trying to learn you have to have sons you have to have you have to have a connection to your sons if you're a person has no connection to the sons such as a slave he doesn't have to his kids he has children he just leaves he picks up and goes away the children stay with the mother they stay by the their slaves they stay by the master he is posos why it says we learn me when you have no connection to your sons you're not testifying so now the says that point if you're going to say that the is like we learned in saned that what they shouldn't testify son shouldn't testify about a father that's talking about would mean because of the sons B why do it say I learned the two first of all that a son should not testify against a father but also that a father who doesn't have children that to him he can't point at his child say oh that's my child this child doesn't call him oh I'm the son of so and so this child is slave and he's he's he went somewhere else he cannot testify here's a source says the gamar that a slave doesn't Testify the problem is here if you're going to go with this logic first of all the like this but according to you forget that should say over here it should continue according to you the continuation and it doesn't say so let me say the same thing that it comes out that if you don't have a connection to your father we're saying you should have a connection to your sons what if a person doesn't have a connection to his father who's such a person who is a person that doesn't have connection a very good a g doesn't have connection to his father it would come out according to you but we know that a is is a Jew for everything so why would he be puzzle you're right a doesn't have a connection to his father why he starts all over again but downwards he does have a connection to his children and therefore he's Kos a slave doesn't have a connection in either direction the mag is Rich the the maged who's the talent of the told him to take over and be so when he was a child his the house burnt down and he saw his mother crying so he says M why you crying so she said because the that we had that showed going all the way back all these Generations where we come from was burnt and gone so he wanted to make his mother feel good so he told his mother mama don't worry about it I will I will make sure that the starts from here and further There Will beos from here on out don't worry about it really that's what you're saying ah bar song the next go okay didn't know that now has a job he's going to have to find it and put it in all send you link okay the point is it's a it's a that most of us in this room don't have besides said most people no no I'm saying like this and this was the son of this and this whatever a lot of us don't have okay fine it's not a problem you can start right now you start it's it's not about you so I think it's better not to have personally you're always living the shadow of your father right meni my father you don't care about it the son of son Li you [Music] son I'm I'm from the how do you know that I'm from the no that's my father's cousin but yeah I'm theun the bottom line is start from today and go is what counts is much different than a slave a slave has zero not upwards downwards a g has starting from him downwards if you tell me that a is says a very very simple thing check this out oh it should say think about it out loud if a g is posos would a would a slave be Posados absolutely if a g is posos he has much better than a slave he has downwards okay he doesn't have upwards so certainly a slave that doesn't have in any direction should be POS a g has all the Mitzvah everything and he's still so if a g is POS just tell me like the in sanin this would teach us of sanin that what that son should not testify against the father and then it should say from that I said when it says say say that it comes to say that you have to have connection to your father and if you don't have connection to your father you and that would be a perfect because the first part of will tell me Froman that you can't testify against the Father the second part of the tell me and from that I'll know that EV is also if certainly so why does it say like this why do say to teach us that is let's see it inside then it should say the second part then I can learn both that children should not die with the testimony of the father in other words a g a would be and how would I know a slave if a Isle certainly one you see what I'm talking there's a lot of words I learned from here only a slave is not a does have downwards okay but then I then I remain with one question that would seem to exclude a g that he has to have a connection with his father and doesn't have a connection with his father and we just established a is you're right it should say you're right technically speaking should say but it just doesn't fit nicely in the great to to be symmetrical to match the the beginning of the P brand new I see a lot of people kind of lost it now it's the time to wake up goes like this this kid has a nursing home I'm mom I know this person nursing home she got married husband takes all the credit takes all the prophets does she the this girl that I know does she have the right to sell herur so says we said that if you see see you cross the street you run away why because if they hurt you too bad they don't have to pay you and if you by mistake trip them they get you so no matter what they win stay away from them says his name was came from she was married there's a lot ofab so it's a little confusing but it's fine the story is very simple this woman was married to her Baba second marriage she had a son on sh from her first marriage she didn't want shu to get she didn't want her husband her second husband to inherit the nursing home so what did she do she gave the nursing home to her son while she was alive could she do that the husband has all profits he has pis all she has is docent says this nursing home is yours she has zero from it the fact that she owns the Goof is that enough to give it to her to her child that's today's SU what's the problem Lauren I see you're looking at me like I'm crazy uh doesn't matter matter no you want to know if the if the child how old the C the question more is not how old he is does she have the ability to give it to him whatever age it takes to get a sod that's not the point okay so that's something else that's a different when we get to say she gave over the the nursing home to her son then she was so we have a little problem so the son goes and he wants the nursing home he goes another not no relation says the nursing home is the Sons sponsored by Greg habber for the success and safe return of our and the hostages and for for all got to get this war over with it's crazy so many injured so many and everybody's depressed and everybody's walking around their heads on the ground gotta get it over with next now the husband is upset he just lost his nursing home he want to know hey is he entitled to the nursing home always throughout keeps on saying over from and from RAV he says listen I have I heard says I heard from a woman sells her nursing home while her husband is alive and then she dies the nursing home goes back to the husband so basically you give back the nursing home to rebbi Aba to the husband why because of the opinion what does that mean the one who controls the profit of the nursing home he gets to the side everything that goes on in the nursing home who comes in who comes out he hires and fires and he takes all the cash into his pocket that's P when you own P you own the property the fact that you're on the document it says it's yours means nothing that's the of when you have opinion of the prophet of the of the fruit you own the whole property and therefore the husband in this case owns the prophets so nobody had a right to get rid of this property the wife didn't have a right to sell it even though it was on her name sounds terrible but that's and we get he gets the property back all we want to do from here all the way till where the the lines get wide is say this simple concept that if we Pas that Kenyan P love Kyan goof that if you own the property your name is on the deed even though you don't get any benefit from the property you're the woman who owns a nursing home and it's a big Glick you tell people I own a nursing home I own a nursing home and people ask you how much Prophet do you make you say zero my husband makes all the profit you are the owner your father gave it to you as a gift it's yours and if you decide to give it to your son it's a good sale that's how we pass it and if that's how we pasing so therefore this mother who gave the nursing home to her son bar he gets to keep the nursing home and the [Music] story yeah now okay good now we're go moving on it's good he wants to know if that's considered different next time so he says oh I don't know what says I have something better than I have a I go with the you're right thank you it says the you have to say you're right it's a this says here this the same exact case same idea a person knows that he's going to be nter soon it happens person wants to give his his children while he's alive so he says here take take this uh take this nursing home here all alive now I know of a story today it happens very very unfortunate parent gave his kids something and then they told the father see you later they put him in a nursing home didn't give him a thing he gave them everything he thought that they're going to take care of him it happens you you wouldn't believe it Benny told me yesterday AA like it's a joke that a father had uh 12 sons he's very wealthy and uh they they find him outside in the street they say what happened he says listen I gave each one of my sons a house and on condition that they build me a room and every month I stay by by one of my sons new what happened he says now it's a iar now he's outside out out in the street okay you know what I'm saying so it's not a joke I I think it's it's a warning to the I know you love your children and they love you but sometimes money does funny things and you can find yourself I I I know this Mya he gave all his money to his children and he put him out on the street he said go take care of yourself and you could jump from here to you go to bz they'll say they're right because iy they're right how so this guy he's he's not he's not an idiot this guy says I'll give you the nursing home but I all the prophets until I die I I need to live I don't want to be put out in the street I heard I heard Thea in Shear one day I'm not going to be that guy so what do we have here we have a situation where the father gets the son gets goof the son is on the title could the son sell the nursing home he can't sell the the father has the pay the father can't sell it but if the father sells what is he selling he's selling the rights to the prophets okay he could sell the prophets until he dies then it goes back to the sun if the son sells the nursing home and he owns the Goof then it goes to the buyer after the father dies wait a minute it says here that when the father dies the sale is a good sale retroactively it's always a good sale oh and here's a massive let's just jump to this case real quickly we're running out of time very very simple you have a father and a son right the father's with the white beard he gives the the son the Goof the whole car he keeps himself the pay the produce the son goes ahead and sells the nursing home sells the fruit and then the father dies that's great because the father died first the son gets the fruit and then afterwards the son dies so everything goes to the buyer that's that's a simple case what about if it happens a little differently everything is going well the problem is that the Sun dies first M and then M okay I think I messed it up a little bit but the point you get the point the point is the sun died first the sun NE never had possession of the fruit he only had possession of the Goof does that also count as a good sale says yes according to doesn't matter what does this tell us say what does this tell us the fruit means nothing prophets mean nothing what matters is whose name is on the deed since the son is on the deed it says his name on the deed he could sell it you're holding with me I got to tell you I'm thinking about this the whole sh I got I got to spit it out even though he's going to kill me this sadic right over and I said it before I got to say it again sadic since he he started doing the da he does every shabas in other words he gives up his nap he doesn't sleep on chabas which he used to and he Lov sleeping in chabas he learns all seven again on chabas also does that right so there are people out there we can learn from them we get I don't do that so I had to get it out because I was not concent thinking about this over and over no people like R what's his name from Manchester C say d didn't change his life but here Chang his life he says instead of he's doing positive things I said this already I told you we're going to go through this whole thing just to get to one point this point that selling the go is selling the doesn't matter who died first even if it didn't come to the son this is simple if the father died first the parish did come to the sun then of course the buyer gets it because we learned you see it's G to over and over we learn there if the son sells while the father is alive and then the son died first that's a big problem right it doesn't work it's not a good sale look where it says over by it says that's how we pass says there one of the only three times in the entire how many there between I have no idea must be in the hundreds right maybe only three times ever is like this is one of them and if like that means everybody agrees to this that what that the son who owns only the Goof not the payro he has the right to sell it the daughter who owns a nursing home but not the income she has the right to sell it the mother who owns the nursing home has the right to give it to her son that's the end of the the Miss is talking about when the father dies first then you write then the buyer gets it because the son didn't die first you see how many words I'm telling you but if the Sun dies first and the sun didn't get the P when father he doesn't get it the one who controls the prophet controls the whole property and when the son sold even though he's on the title that's the better word the title he does not own the property because the father owns the fruit it's not true it's a good sale when the father dies then the buyer gets it doesn't matter it doesn't matter who died first the buyer always gets it because he holds the main thing is who's on the title not who controls the prophet and the son he's on the title so he has the right he's entitled to sell the titled property everybody holds like that the main thing is when the son sells it okay we do it again and therefore if that means it's it's counterintuitive a little bit it means that is what controls everything the wife who's in control of the Goof she has the right to give it to her son and not to her husband they brought this back to Ruda rud is the one that said it in the name ofm that the wife gets it that the that the husband takes it away from the buyer do not prove anything from a wife who gives away her property to this Mish which is talking about a similar case but it's a father who giving to a son and a father who gives to a son is different than a mother who gives to her son why if you're going to tell me that that reverse the case where it's not n um oh I did this one by mistake this is where the father this one over here I show this by mistake before but this is the case I want to show now where the son gives to the father when a son gives to the father it's the reverse that the son let's say son knows he's going away from this world and he doesn't want his own kids and the is going to wants to give whatever he has to his father okay so what does he do he gives his father the Goof it's reverse of before before the father gave the son the Goof now the son is giving the Father the Goof but the son has to live a little bit so he takes for himself the pis so in that case is going to say even if the father dies first like in this case the the the son the the father gets it the father Yash it even if he died first right like in our case even if the son died first the son gets it and it's a good M so in this case it's the reverse where the with the son gave everything to his father okay that's just to be confusing but the point is very very simple he says that when a father gives something to the son whether you say doesn't matter I want my son to be able to sell it to whoever he wants what's the difference if he sells it after I die before I die I want my son to be in control over here it's normal for a father to give a son and to let his son do whatever he wants but in the case of when a mother gives it to a son you can't say that why because if the mother didn't do anything then who would get the property the husband not the son and it's very different says rabuda said that when a mother gives it to her son the Father the husband takes it away from him because that's not normal over here where it's normal for a father take give the son and he wants him to to enjoy it and he doesn't care when he sells it and how he sells it he knows that eventually he's going to sell it so he gives it to really you say very good but over here I want to sell to but not by the mother because the mother is different because without her giving it it go to the husband doesn't make sense what you say you say oh was in the reverse with the son gave the father you're right but if the father gives a son what's the difference they're both inheriting each other a father inherits a son when there's no other yard to the son he's a young guy let's say doesn't have any kids and a son inherits the father so what's the difference he says is so late we got to finish here we'll just do okay we just we'll just two more lines so what he says is what happens is that the son the the father I'm sorry the the son who gives to the father he does he has children he doesn't want his children to inherit you hear what's going on here he's a bad guy he's he's in a fight with his own children so he wants to give the inheritance to his father he's trying to get away from the he's trying to get away from the norm just like you said the norm is for a wife's property to go to the husband and she's trying to get out of the norm over here also it's trying to get out of the norm so therefore it is similar to the mishna so too the father wants to give it to one son and not to the other [Music] Sons okay so we we'll go back tomorrow have a wonderful say