Daf Yomi Bava Kama Daf 72 by R’ Eli Stefansky

[Music] I go nice tonight sh I just see a few guests maybe a couple what's your name you think I don't see you what gross London who else that's it oh what's your name zisha for game from mon no no but where where what not father okay this is Yoshi's picture of a of going toer with the K so somebody said that he need he deserves $100,000 because he was able to reproduce this I don't know I don't know there's $100,000 it's not bad but come on the knife the the okay anyway it's been a while since I've written to you but I wanted to share an experience I just had I needed to go huh it's all All or Nothing by us this is from yitz Isaac kravit I need to go to AutoGlass Shop for some rep and as I walked into the waiting room an employee pointed to the TV screen and said you're welcome to some entertainment I quickly replied that I brought my own entertainment which I was thinking about finishing the D that I just started that morning attach a photo of the waiting room we can see the TV screen we can also see my gar open I was listen to think again for all they do for cl talking about people that utilize their time for the right things here is Jack nbam also known as f217 in Frankfurt yes and the orange juice matches the socks and the whole but you know what 80 years ago however many years ago it was they didn't think that people would be learning in Frankfurt T here he is with the gamar learning t we're jumping into the sum of the we learned in is an idea of in gar when they say number Does it include that number is up until the number and I'm just thinking to myself now uh I I haven't done this a lot but this shabas I pulled out one of the um mdy illustration books from theas previous M and I started asking my M and the guests different youas from there I was surprised to see my 17-year-old knew a lot a lot of them and he does listen to the D a lot so but I think it's a good game to play at a shabas one of my favorites always and we're going to get to it today is it today or tomorrow for you guys tomorrow t t ask what isura so first he thinks it's truma he ask what truma is then that that's also problem butura most people that don't learn da don't know what it is and then way they do when you tell them what it is they think it's a MIT to switch it from a smaller animal to larger animal okay so it's a great game play it and you'll see you'll teach your kids a lot of you so this and learning if you admit to a like youit before the come then you are we said is like a if a Russia wants to eat your stuff let him let him eat the tra let him eat the stuff let him eat the poison this is not for you guys that was for thees that was uh be retroact TV come the r is old one but a good one it's when you have two punishments you give the guy the the greater of the two and he doesn't have to pay and one of the guests asks but does that mean that he's not there's no questions on these if you have a question you can ask after this video I'm not going to explain I'm going to show you a video that I really wanted to show a year ago when we learned the sugya Y verman sent it to me says I can't believe that you forgot this and now of course after this sug I can't believe so throw it in I hope it's appropriate I didn't look at it again I hope it's good the way it's supposed to be explained what do you got you got something Rin for us the video he's in a different world here he goes okay to Brown up the middle runess is and since he knows the of he extends his hand doing the the following we know that when it comes to sideline catches we hold as seen by the Jones but as we just learned when it comes to a touchdown over the go line we do weally that's enough that's enough okay good all right so now you know what is I don't have to explain it but if it's good thing we didn't show it when was there anyway huh what who's who's explaining it the it's it's the competition oh okay so anyway seriously is a sh of when an object goes over a certain line like in that video over a line it's still in the a that's not a good example but still in the a do we view it as if it landed because when it comes to you need ano that's to uproot something from one from and to put it down another now if it's in the ear is it considered as if it landed rabo side that's that's where oh Manchester so they they're probably all upset that's what they call an America they call that football I know that you guys call it soccer they call football soccer kids okay anyway it's something they don't have no idea what they just saw it looks a little bit like a rugby but it's not huh rug oh K of the month if you didn't hear if anybody didn't hear trust me you'll hear it on the edit trust me K of the month sponsored by Anonymous from Lakewood for Ben malons the this might be the last year of after shut down for showing the video that come from supporting it was I'm sorry if upset it wasn't a middle it was during the email section that nobody watches anyway yeah for your Relentless commitment to I'll just tell you especially those are that are in America you here in you know what I'm talking about but but if not somebody came in Middle SCH and said this terrible terrible news that's going on in KRON uh the the the Arabs got together with guns and did another October 7th they came in and they killed many and there's many many injured we don't know all the numbers and the was very very sad and very depressed it's a lie I'm just saying what they said on shabas in and saiding EXT and then the entire shabas if you know what I'm talking about there was bombs literally you heard my building was shaking every 2 to 3 minutes was another unbelievable bomb yeah you heard it you all heard it all day you need to get your hearing check so there was Bombs all day literally every three minutes literally no okay so we thought okay so this the story of all these dead people in Kevon and you turn on the new Mavis two 16-year-olds and a 19-year-old they had guns they came in they shot one he's modly injured they were killed immediately those three and that's it what happened in in in in I it just reminded me of after right when it happened those bombs nonstops I thought oh unbelievable the whole shabas so anyway the bottom line is don't believe anything you hear on chabas okay that's the don't tell other people chabas nothing what there were Bombs all shabas long they were getting them I don't know what they're doing but there that one thing another do the other where are we holding in memory number seven in memory of from an from Anonymous in Manchester Manchester was watching right now live who joined the she at the beginning of sa of our fathers I believe every year they do a big supporters of MD Alan and the Art of the month Anonymous for the for an easy child birth his daughter and healthy baby I showed this cartoon from this amazing artist who does Da cartoons this is basically a g of sitting by Isa and they coming to be him and said oh I heard that your father's cow was stolen oh terrible s did it have insurance and he says no no it only had uh what do they call it sad G and he says very very important to uh to do insurance and he says uh could could you pass me the arus anyway the point of this is he's the GH of he's the one that stole it and they're coming to him and everything okay today happens to be one of the shortest D in ch and one of the easiest I say that because a lot of it is actually K so we're familiar with it and that which we're not familiar is going toaz again so I'm going to try as hard as possible to SHP it out for 45 minutes today there's a a special rule that you're allow to speak up more than once and if you have any jokes or stories you like to come to the front and tell us please be my guest no no no not yet that's please turn to I'm I'm having conniptions I don't know what to do I didn't look at it yet but it looks scary for mag very very scary okay so rabo said does anybody yeah I might start and then they minute da just stand for one timer we'll do it for that da anyway does anybody know what yagam is there's hundreds of between and Rob and only six of them is like a and that's to one of them is today what is does anybody I need help over here can help me what's some reason a lot of people don't know this means we just had the story where the woman a real story with actually G to have another story today with real story a woman came to him she lost her money for for buying fabrics and she was cuz the the guy said it was and the real looking didn't want to give back there and he pass but it's it's not that's a story of and the husband didn't know about it okay what's Theon that's if you're looking you oh you he so that's our do you go retroactive you go backwards from where he he said his testimony from today on what is the lamid very good means in a in a you need a to to show that you're coming out so is if the came there by itself you didn't put it there for that purpose it happened to be there when you built the place or whatever when you needed the what's the next one yeah so it means that if a person is engages gets engaged to two sisters since we don't know who's engaged to one of the two one of the two and we don't know which one it is so he can't marry either one of them because you're not allowed to marry a sister and it's possible since it's not so it's not a condition at all what's the next one giml if you huh you're all saying Friday cheaters oh talking about cheaters we have to give a mazov to Rabbi Gein and and also this this Rabbi Gein he had a baby sister no when is he going to come to daa he's there every day he can't come I know but what you should come at night no okay whatever jonath Jonathan oh Jonathan grand grand grandson that's what I thought grandson there's the rule if there's a shom and you tell me about it I will not like you for a long time you tell me after the sh exactly now I don't know how people go to sh I just I fall asleep Auto no matter when chabas comes in I fall asleep okay what's the what's the last one oh man is if a person eats TR on purpose not because whether or not is possible not so that's all the way at the end of now we're holding here midle of at the end of also I have to say to Barry bash his son was a guest of mine this shabas and and I didn't told me after sh he says my father does the D every day with you so shout out you son is great should have lot okay what's tomorrow he did know uh yeah he about knew of course he knew he knew a lot of stuff actually a lot a lot of things oh we got some guests here more guests sh guys where you from what's your names don't tell me from Chicago really the Ang from Chicago your father does the deja vu stuff grandfather that's your grandfather wow send them regards okay what yiva both wow okay for coming so it goes like this when a person has to pay we learned in the P that a person who steals uh sheep your M you're going crazy huh you stop I'm not slepping here I'm I'm trying to go what time is it oh you have a flight now we're not start has 163 did you know that I didn't know that I I say not a joke now we can start learning we put it here's where the learning starts the says you steal a sheep or a bull and you and then you sell it or you it you have to pay doll four for the the Sheep five for the bull what happens if there's a situation where you can't pay the full amount you only could pay half for instance the bull is owned by two people and you admit it to one so you're you completely puttered to that one but you did not admit it to the second one and then they brought to one but since he's a you only have to pay him two and a half so is there such a thing as paying two and a half or not so initially said no you Potter so then thear ask a question from our mishna what what it say in our Mish if a person steals from his own father he steals a bull from his father and then he sh it and then the father dies so the mishna says what does the Mish say that you are why why are you he's not going to pay himself as after his father dies and he has Brothers he has to pay his brothers but not the full amount because he's one of the brothers so some of it goes to himself so someone goes to himself he's not paying the full amount you see that you don't have to pay the full amount so the came up with the whole thing oh the the story with the brothers with the father he actually the father took him to court and the court was M him then you have to pay that amount to the to the to the to the father and to the state so it's not K he's paying himself okay then thear says like this two lines from the bottom wakes up in the morning and he says sorry I made a mistake no there is a situation where you can pay half so in your question where there are two partners one you admitted to one you didn't you should pay that other partner two and a half or two if it's a sheep and why did I not tell you that last night it's because says rash I didn't understand well I didn't I didn't look into it well TAA says literally I was in a titness I didn't eat so okay I didn't e b with a very famous story with the Taz and the Bak the Taz was the son-in-law of the bak and the Taz if it's possible I know it's m shabas I know it's hard to control up there but if it's possible a little just a little bit who's who's over there Dave who who's he talking to so who's heing with is it to to do me a favor come come in here so let if he has to talk on the phone or whatever but not to other people so the Taz it's every month ofas I'm used I should get used to it but I can't it's disturbing me thank you Gary just the stor I feel bad I know I feel bad okay the Taz brings the back to the now before I tell you the story I need to tell you this the vill before uh this certain person was lifter he came to the vill he tells the villain I need to tell you something yeah I was in charge of giving you your stien your monthly stien every month the Kila got together they got money and they wanted to give it to the r krer the and I was in charge of giving you the money I have to tell you that I stole it every single month so the guy didn't know what he wanted he's like okay so so he said no I need to ask okay say you didn't take anything away from me whatever I need to get I get if you have it's fine another that the vill's brother came to Villa and he visited the G the G said what are you doing here he says somebody stole a lot of money from me I'm chasing him I heard that he's in VNA the go said the G couldn't believe it he was in you're wasting your time to come to Villa to find your money open up a gar and learn fine now going back to the Taz the Taz takes his father-in-law to the why because his father-in-law promised him meat that was thead every day he'll give him meat and what happened was he didn't give meat for a while he was giving him lung he wanted to know if lung is considered meat or not and the bin that yes meat lung is considered meat okay so they asked what's wrong with you bring follow bring him to he says he promised me this meet and it happens to be that since he started giving me lung I'm not learning so well it's making me weak and I don't want them to have a on him so I wanted the B the passing that's considered meat and if it's considered meat it can't be a on him whatever they passing down there that's what they passing up there the I didn't have meat to eat and I didn't say good says over here according to at least so we have two cases we have a case where a son stole his father's animal and Sh it before the father died or he Sheed it after the father died but if we're taking everything back and we're talking about that it's possible to pay a fraction of the dollar the you could pay half of it B quarter of it whatever it is so even if he the father died before and then after the father died the some went ahead and did and now he has to pay himself and his brothers he should have to pay why are you saying in that case that you're Potter yeah even though he's one of the guys that gets paid we just said it's not a problem pay pay half pay whatever you need to pay pay three quarters the first case where the father was alive while he did the he had zero right to do the he's not the owner of this animal who's the owner of the animal the father so it says in the that you did it completely the whole animal you youed so great you pay you pay but the case where the father died first and then he sh it afterwards he's a partner so he how much a did he do let's say has three brothers he did three quarters of an a why because he's a partner here he Sheed 25% of his own animal the other 75% is is on that you don't pay not because it's not the full amount because it wasn't a full iser okay so we had two cases thear brings this case and I'm showing this I don't know if I showed it in the the sheer yet I did I think in the English one The Heart with the hole we're not talking about that case interesting you have to go to theu case continue if a personed an animal in the so the is that it's you have to pay even though what you is worthless you're not allow to eat it now so again we have two Shas one is that the you cut cut cut and when you get to the end that's when the happens there's another that says that the begins in the beginning and and ends at the end so this is just a picture of the mdash um not not this I don't want to show you this yet let me show you this here this is an animal first of all hold on there's a picture this is the K and the VES the tracha and the V now you understand why I brought this does it not look almost identical you see it oh he's he's he's gone camera man cameraman could you zoom in please okay here we go now oh now I see it clear it has all those ridges now look at the Kor on a real Conor that RAB vi from Manchester sent me and behind you see the dark one that's the vesas okay now that we know that we go over here check this out there's a little bit of a this is so if you say that it started when he starts that's part of the so we have a little bit of a problem what's the problem a big problem he's sitting in the B mikd and he went a little bit that little bit makes it he just you don't have to be able to eat it in order for it to be you have to do a beginning of for it to be if that's the casee as the at right when you did that it's no longer edible it's possible once you get to the part that you're what part is that that has to be the end end of the at that point it's already not the owners look at that now he keeps on going oh the only so you're actually there's two times here there's two there's two um what's the word looking for there's uh two stages good that's good who said that the Israeli he El in the Hebrew he El in the English it's two stages there the beginning and that stage the beginning makes it possible as the stage we said that in order for you to be has to be edible has to be that you could eat from right if you shoot the animal you kill the animal you're not it has to be a means I could eat it but when could I eat it according to this according to everybody all the way at the end even if you once she says so that's the end but the is nothing if you say so again if you say the is that the is at the end and not in the beginning so didn't become only until the last millisecond right right before the RO and at that millisecond it also became so both of them happened simultaneously and that's great he became and became I still want you to sit here you you like that guy that wants to get the B carer the whole time just help me out please once leave on a good note ra Bo said give him a lot of money in America give him a lot of money because he's a great guy he helps me out here okay so anyway what he what are you showing me in tyers what not good beautiful did I say that in the Hebrew did I say it's I said it's I'm explaining okay not edible it's not edible fine no it's good no you're right it's means that the owner has no to it anymore that's it it's not the owners anymore so when I got to the end of the I something that's not the owners anymore what do we do this is one of the most fascinating so let's see the cash first from here you see if you didn't understand is gonna go through it all over again step by step again if you hold that the begins all the way in the beginning and goes throughout the whole process and at the end so it's one long as soon as you did a little bit of it became the rest of the you he didn't check something that's owned by the original owner and therefore he shouldn't have to [Music] pay I'll tell you on that little bit that's what he's he's the as soon as he Nicks the what's the problem with that oh the whole time we're saying that it's at has to be not that's I don't understand what you're saying we learned this so many times that has to be a complete to be edible and you don't have bottom line is if you say that depends if you say it's great but if you say this this starts and ends and it's one long process so as soon as he nicked it became also by the time he got to the Roy part all the way it's already not owned by that guy you shouldn't have to pay here comes the terb what's the whole problem that when he nied a little bit he was inside the BD and it became and became also that part happened outside of the by the time he got into the it was already at the end when he was making it all the way at the end let me show you how it goes and let me explain to you first of all this is one of my favorite pictures of all time of course I took it me or my son I don't remember but I think it maybe it was me but anyway here's a guy staging away and learning oblivious to the world he's on a skateboard he's a ex he's from California m i don't knowwhere he's a real he's a pro on the skateboard he could do the skateboard he could skateboard without even looking but he's M he's coming from straight to the Koto in one shot M this helps me out to understand the Su why because he's coming from to the kotto that's what we're talking abouta here check this out what that guy's watching he just send Anem you think he think he he's stagging away he's watching okay said check this out he's he's by the H and there he goes oh it has to be this is the case yep okay that's the only way I can understand that he was on a skateboard as he Shing Dan was also on skates of course and he's Shing and it's on the out it's outside mdash and he rolls right into with his skates and everything now I say this many times I'm gonna say this again so you're gonna say if I I told this to my wife she's like I can't learn gar it's impossible such a case so that's the whole point gar doesn't it doesn't mean that this case actually happened or will ever happen that's not the point the point you're asking me a question how is it possible that the beginning happen it's possible okay we're not we don't want to know if the case happened or didn't happen or could happen the point is what's the how does this work what's the mechanism behind certain things and if I know the mechanism I know that the the beginning of the was was was done in a way and then at the end at the end when when he when he came in and he over that's when if if there such a thing that I could do and I I get to a point where it's Roy simultaneously am I or not yes or no how I don't care how he flew off the moon on a rocket and he haded this I'm asking you a question yes or no they both happen simultaneously is he or not say oh it's impossible you shouldn't be you know what yes if the happen simultaneously with a real that's the here that's it so you don't have to have a true story that happened you have to know the idea the concepts behind the and and from there you can pass into other things now we're going to do this whole all over again not only is it a short but it's it's repeating itself now now the brings is all the way at the end or in the beginning to the endash beautiful if a person thinks to himself let me see if I have no okay so a guy a yeah a doesn't like this guy right over his neighbor oh here here Mr here's my Cent PES here's my PES please sh for me sure sh for you now this R he just build a whole extension without my permission he blacks my light okay here sure he starts Shing this and he thinks in his head instead of doing a carbon P for his neighbor he's think all he's thinking in his head didn't say a word think said now if starts all the way in the beginning and he thinks himself this is this this carbon this carbon PES throw it in the garbage Mish nothing worthless but if the only happens all the way at the end if the begins here and ends here then you ruined it but if the only happens all the way at the end end I mean on him so he's thinking to himself oh this is a carbon too bad you thought carbon but you didn't think it at the end it has to be at the end he thought in the beginning so he doesn't passel the carbon says Rashid huh I know I'm I I'm I'm I'm jumping around pigle means he thought that he's going to eat it three days there's another case that's the first Miss I threw that in also what am I gonna do without you it's all cases any case that's a bad or lishma I just said a cool case of lishma fine not your typical pigle that was another question I asked the guys what's pigle they not everybody know you know because they're learning they don't know pigle but it's good to know these things says it starts in beginning goes all the way through so had any in his mind to be to say that I'm gonna we're going to eat this animal three days after it so it becomes and if somebody eats whole thing even if he thought about it all the beginning it's enough to pass the why because starts in the beginning according to what you're telling me it comes out that that wased in is not is so why we had this already don't worry about it oh sponsored by Greg Hab for the success and safe return of our soldiers and hostages and for the for if you're telling me that to yeah we had this word for word a minute ago when you the tiny bit of it you just made it the rest so now since it's now you just continued cheing something that's not owned by the original owner and should you see from the Mna the hold perhaps he's it's not true as soon as you cut it slightly don't push him off like that it says in the that you have to the whole thing in order to be not just a little bit how's gonna get along with this Mna our M that says it seems like he says it's only the he started on the roller skates outside of the outside of the and he rolled his way in and he finished it inside in other words that the the when he started the wasn't wasn't user yet why because he's outside when he did the final Millie meter millionth of a millimeter which made it a and also made it Roy that happened as on the m m millisecond when he got into the B when he got into the into the says the so a person Steals and there's two witnesses that saw him stealing and they saw him the same Witnesses witnessed that he also shed and we find out that they are liars that there's another another set of aen that say you are with us you're Liars how much do these Liars have to pay says in the P I don't have it you have to pay exactly what you want to be so when they testified that they they saw and they saw they're saying basically that the guy has to pay four or five so they have to pay for the entire thing provided that the happened on the first the this first then on the if he stole based on two there's another set of that testified that then the two sets of were found out to be not the first of the first set of AD came to say that he stole it so they they were found that they were in Morocco at the time they have to pay the ones that said that it was and therefore they have to pay ory another two or three so the the the second Pier has to pay the difference between the and the there was a a guy who wanted to do a big Mitzvah of to visit his parents up north here in so he got his car and drove out there and of course he was stopped on the way because he was speeding and he's very upset he said How's he's doing such a Mitzvah he got a well you speeding okay that's a different child but he wasn't happy with it but then turns out like a week later caps come to him and say listen there's uh we suspect you for being involved in a in a terrible crime and he was able to prove based on this uh video of the cop the cop was wearing a camera and that he was at up north when they suspected on the crime so he was with a that he wasn't there reverse IMU and there's a that I saw I'm not going to go into the names but there was a a TV show that was recorded in the Yankee Stadium and in one of the shots there's a a guy that was accused of killing and because of that because of that TV show they exonerated him they said is what Dodgers I'm not going to argue with AI kamansi who does this for a living but right they have him on video they said he's he killed he's the guy that killed he said impossible when did you film this the the game was at this in this day this in this time here he is in Dodger Stadium okay well I'm not I don't claim to be first of all not in gimar I don't remember and certainly not in those shows which I P it I didn't even see I just saw a thing about it yeah no I did I mean it's it's a famous thing okay says the gar no at least that clip you see the clip of uh I think it was it from not a from Jewish guy that's that's the show no [Music] yeah oh so anyways by the way this also Rashi goes in to say that the second the second ad that talk about the they had to be who first because once you get rid of the then you don't have a so first you get rid of on the then you have the if the second cat of AD the second set of AD were found to be so it turns out that he's a g but he didn't because those two that claim that he Sheed it they're Liars so he doesn't have to pay the but he has to pay they have to pay the difference between the and the so if they claim that he Sheed a bull they have to pay three they claim that he he Sheed a a sheep he has to they have to pay two if one of only one out of the two are they say you were with us in a different country what are you hacking in China so now you cannot be of them to pay because is only when both of the are if one then the this is bottle if one of the first sets of set of is then both sets are gone why if we don't if we can't establish that there was a theft here that somebody stole a sheep then you can't then you can't say say oh he he Sheed it yeah maybe Sheed his own thing you have to come on to the first one and if one of the two first a are then the whole thing flies out the window so we have a little bit of a chart here okay we have like this there the first month all the way on the right where my head is that's not so good Gary maybe get rid of me for a second oh good or put me in a different Corner let's see you work your magic put me in a oh that's good that's better okay there two ad come and say the guy stole on all the way to the right then those two those to then in it turns out that they turns out that these are now the question is do we go from the red box and we say okay whatever happens later Nissan they sign thear that's no good or since there then we go all the way back to the right to and therefore when they were at a and they testified that so and so got married those people are not married because they had bad aidm we have to start the all over again or if they sign the document let's talk about a document the document is no good the is no good what do you think to go all the way back to where we found out that they're lying they lied all the way in that's when they lied they caught them and brought them to bz and so everything that happen after the lie in turns out that they're big liars and all their documents are are false we not good enough go all the way back to the time of the LIE we the the red the red box from there onwards we we look forward let's be positive for we don't go backward from the moment all the way the right from Russ you cannot hear testimony from a Russ the whole concept of is a b why you have two testifying that they were in and they saw somebody kill somebody and then you have two that say no they are liars they were in Mexico at the time so to believe them well it's a little interesting because we're not they're not fighting against each other two are saying this is what happened the other two said you weren't even there it's not a fight of okay but says so just take the and go from that point on and some say no no no there's no here of course says logically speaking they lied in the they should be they should be bad a them all the way from when they lied and when we caught them on the LIE not when we passing them that they're Liars says no no no but we have to be considerate to to society because if you find out that somebody is a p a p a him it could go back 25 years and everything they did in the last 25 years all theas are no good all the real estate is no good all that you can't do that to society it's not fair to other people so are going to go from here on what's the difference if you say that it's a says it's a we go from here on out or it's not a as much as it is just to help Society come when we have testimony a full testimony in each Aid two Aid them against one two against one always wins and may it's not a you told me it's two against two they say we saw a killing here Ines the other two say no you were in Mexico so it's two against two but if you have four against two because two are one and two are another one so now it's not anymore of course we're going to believe the two what we don't have to worry about or if huh you ask no what no no noes if noes it's only because of if you know what did I say okay he's to ask today you ask more than once sorry we're not talking about that said hey you were in Mexico we're talking about that came along and said these guys are these cases you do have okay let's just finish this he seemed to hold like ra so if you look in the Rashi over here on the side he goes through all six things which we did in the beginning of the year Rai have a wonderful week wonderful day tomorrow at 7:15 and 9:00 in [Music] Hebrew