Daf Yomi Bava Kama Daf 71 by R’ Eli Stefansky

[Music] good morning shom sh great to see you this is a good one we have a few good ones hopefully we have some volume here some sound this is from yob doing good morning so first when I opened up I thought he's talking about the the four-legged he's talking about his real check this [Music] out it's worth a second time dropped whatever it had in its hand to say it this one is galic this is a mdy magneti thing it has the the sent their table down the middle the whole thing just checking in haven't read in a while especially want to thank yos for the work he puts in have watched live recently I saw how much ysph really adds and is really and it's really appreciated by the way I was disappointed to see he's in the back he's in the back by the way I was disappointed to see that you don't come onto Zoom anymore at the end of this year few reasons for that for the volume appreciate it you're going up and down what are you doing over there okay attaches the video my son he came with me to your Su this year built a model mdy out of magneet house please note he even added screens at the front with immense gratitude for all that you've added to my life La Jacobson proud M dwire since shabas now he I know for a fact was there since the beginning I remember him you know it's like it reminds me of the Kish people say that if all the stories of the Kish are true then it comes out that he lived for 400 years how do you have time to speak to so many people with all the people that say that we were here since bras that means that when bras was we had like 30 40,000 viewers and it just went down since then exactly because of the cruise I'm saying of course of course that's what I'm saying but he I know I remember him 100% good morning rabai oh so now we we went from children saying good morning rabai to the adults is harv says he finally met Harry Shalom on the West Coast by the way if you're new to this year so my wife and I were in Los Angeles we're sitting outside of this um Cafe Place eating something and all of a sudden this truck starts honking its horn so we look you see a a 4x4 Big Truck it's like I don't know like at they Semite what is he like he's beat me starts going like this turns out it was Harry Shalom and he's trying to show me his license plate it said 8 Minute D on it and he took out a drill because he has a truck so he took out a drill and he undrilled it and he gave it to me it was galic so here's Harry Shalom on the left oh look at the ceiling shot fire literally all right here we go yeah for the new guys we have to explain to them what it was are we on y good okay maybe next time I I messed something up here it's not working y you'll throw it in here's here's the video of them saying good morning that's enough uh they'll do that I don't want to take away their Thunder you're invited to live viewing sh this again byari in Manchester and let's get to the sponsors the of the month is sponsored by anous from L sponsored for the unity of there's eight of them that from supporting [Music] for all your Relentless commitment MD and for some reason they're not here today I don't see Noam or AI suppos where's AI somebody took your seat okay it's okay there's an extra seat right here here this side it's going to confuse me cuz my left brain and my right brain I don't know have a seat Davi making some room for you um no no no do not get up I I I I ask you to get up getting up of early from Anonymous of Manchester joined the share at the beginning of of our fathers I know your mother put it in she has to get her other son to come to this year yeah maybe at night T mayor huh to Big tell your mother I have a lot of that you come to she it's a big thing for me I don't she just she just uh donated so I'm saying I'm telling you when he comes here when she [Music] sponsors the third day sponsored by mdy Belgium mazov Dove Harris on becoming a grandfather even in Belgium they know about do Harrison mied and who has two grandsons and two great grandsons who learned with MD alah the of the month Anonymous for the for easy child birth for his daughter and a healthy baby Bo said this is Kar this is not this is not a real trick question this is just K to bring the point home what day of the year is the holiest day of the year cuz here we have a picture of a guy that's stealing a a carbon or an animal on Yer and he's going toer so it's a what day of the year is the holiest day of the year huh you're all cheaters you heard the sh many times yeah shabas KES is the holiest day of the year as we'll see soon I just uh wanted to bring the point home so it goes like this we're holding all the way in the top 70 into bakama that means 70 days ago a lot of us were in New York in hotel celebrating the seum of half AAS of and here we are that's how that's how fast time flies we're talking about a guy a ghav who stole Kipper and decided to beer Ander when is he when on shabas where inz then since dies he doesn't pay the do so he pays you're right he doesn't die today here here's a somewhat of an attempt to take the GH of and give him malus a person who gets malus he's already suffering malus he doesn't have to pay that's how that's how we pass it so what's the the answer going to be that it goes according to says you do pay okay now this idea that you get malus and is actually our par the there's a a muscle of a the chef chef brings a nice dish of fish to The King The King looks at it he's very impressed he takes a bite out of it and almost throws up it's disgust it's disgusting so he tells the chef I'll give you three options either you eat the entire dish that you made or I'll have to beat you or you're going to pay a hefty fine to the to the king so the chef says to himself how bad can this fish be ready I made it he says I'll take the first option I'm going to eat it so he starts eating it and he sees that it's that's terrible but he has no choice he eats eats he gets halfway through he can't he can't do it anymore so he says okay forget it I'll take the malus so he takes the malus and the guy starts beating him beating him he gets the 25 he says I had enough okay I'll pay the fine parro he took the malus and then he paid gun's fine he paid the fine and then after everything he had to let out he in big time but I heard now fromd seal and I was very close Tod seal I thought I was very close to him my father put me in uh high school when I was 10 years old in so I learned the there but I was very homesick so he'd come visit a 10-year-old every week he'd come on Tuesday to to give a he didn't drive to Tira cuz it was an hour or so he had a private driver take him and then he'd come and the holy she you know yeah Mees that's why come and leave and other stuff my father's very close to se says that what you see from py is and it's aite for us first of all py Thor is in control CU wanted a certain way he thought that he has full control and has zero control what's interesting is he says that in this world and we speak about this a lot in this world there's no such thing as a freebie there's no free Hanah if you don't deserve this Hanah and you take it you're G to have to pay in a different way so for instance if a person gets up in the morning I was just talking to one of my good yesterday he said that once in a while he gets up he says it's not going to happen I can't get up now I need that extra hour now he has a good excuse cuz he works till 3: 4 in the morning the whole thing but a guy he's today he's lazy he wants to take that extra hour or two of sleep go to the later minion skip the da today say done seal you know it's going to happen this is his La what's going to happen is tomorrow night your kid will be up the whole night keep you up he has a tooth a keep you up the whole night you thought you gained the hour here guess what you're going to pay it over there there's no freebies no Hanah that's a free and that's that we could take you're welcome so we have a problem if you don't get malus and pay so how's this guy that's getting how does he pay it goes ACC the famous case of a person is somebody else through his testimonies $100 and then we find out that he was on in the Caribbean St wasn't even here so he has to pay $100 what about the fact that this he was over should getus does he get malus even though he's he has to pay $100 does he get both so says yes he gets both he gets malus and he pays goes according to says so come out according to her mayor even if heed an animal on he should still pay our says not like that our go that if and what are you going to say no he doesn't hold that he only holds this by Pain by malus not by dying these three cases all these three one of them the first one is even though he's he doesn't say it says his these three cases he he he still has to pay which is worthless shis is an animal that killed another human being you have to kill the animal has no value nevertheless you have to pay so how can go like says do not bring a RI from this this is talking about a very very specific case but actually holds that by not only on yeah and go together not huh no no no no one or the other [Music] drops a bomb here it's actually passing like this something that we're not so used to that if you tell somebody else to sh this animal on shabas and he because he listened to you so he's you're you told him to do something to do he listened to you you you're as the right it almost doesn't make sense how's it possible we have the so what if I told him to he wasn't supposed to listen to me but now that he listened to me says that's what this Bry is talking about not a typical case that you yourself stole it and you sh it but the problem is says yes there is in this case I bet you if I asked in where is there a case of we already had one H and where else let's see so special as you see in the POS the famous the words go together just like selling you need to come on to two people you can't sell something to yourself you need to sell something to someone else so too when it comes to it's possible that someone else does the for you and what yeah what's your point the [Music] yeah how do I pay if it wasn't yeah what yeah we're talking about the here we're talking about the for me so just brings another two reasons why over here it's different it seems like everybody agrees to it between the is the word in green it could say maybe I would think both of them you need both but okay the says the word o is extra something like that why do you need the word comes to include also when it comes to but this is a big problem that we have in we spoke about it recently how's it possible a situation where you yourself if you try to do it you it onas you'd be if you send he has to's here's a situation where when you yourself if you did it you wouldn't be when you sh by yourself it's not that you are you're just you get the more severe penalty you even mentioned yesterday discusses how if you want to be you have to pay just we cannot be you two things but you are you're in fact says you're you're you're telling me that the entire mishna the mishna when it says is not even talking about you yourself the god of himself talking about okay so now you're saying that the goes ACC to what why would RAB say that in a case like this that someone else for you that you are from why would you be from because they hold we saw in the end of the mishna is of the opinion that let's say you an animal we have here sh an animal that has a hole in its heart there's a real picture from RAB Vice fish from Manchester a nice siiz hole in the heart of the animal whats like he cut it I know it looks a little fake but it's not it's real he always sends usack real pictures so he it beautifully again let's let's do Kar if you kill an animal a GH if kills an animal shoots him with a gun he doesn't have to pay do he only pays so does it have to be a that you could eat or just here says that if he turns out that it's not a you don't pay so therefore since you on you cannot use the and we're going to see in a second why you don't pay it's as if you took a gun and shot the animal if you shot the animal you don't have to pay so you also don't pay what why why do you say [Music] that oh so that's exactly the so that we're going to get into for two lines the is going to say we're going according toand that says that no one can eat it ever no [Music] one okay if now becomes we know that since you have to kill this animal because it killed the human being it has zero value it's a that doesn't bring to the animal but if you it on you could eat [Music] it yeah if you have a smartphone so many say that you're out here but if you shabas so you're not that bad or you even though listen we're going to kill you no problem I want so why you telling me that it's not I don't know this might be the fourth time on this that says oh so let me just show you real quickly this was the original chart now this is super confusing it has I don't know how many boxes 12 just for the like it's a lot of boxes what I wanted to show in this chart which is interesting you'll see in the next chart which is much simpler I'm just showing you the the the pre the before and after so if you look carefully on the top line where it says remor there's two green boxes two red R boxes the and the ma then if you take those red boxes then the maed of turns into the ofuda so you see how the red boxes transl to Ruda then what's in the ma of Ruda purple and white then you take the purple and white of and you transfer down all the way to the bottom toand so it comes out that the of is theud the of Sandler okay so but this is very confusing using and Kramer my gave me this idea I think it's a lot simpler it's four boxes basically goes like this we don't have to remember all this it's not important what we're trying to get is the last last last but if you're interested we'll go through it R believes and holds that if somebody doesn't realize that it's shabas okay he does this let's just do show first show you what he did he he made a a soup you see the candles in the background it's on sh it's already shavas forgot that his wife with candles it's already shabs he he's he's cooking on shabs he doesn't okay he didn't do it on purpose yeah he's from he has his beck on the whole thing so R holds that you could you could eat the food on Chavis you could eat it on Chavis now if he did it deliberately then he cannot eat it on chabas he did a Del but he could eat it on M chab okay forever long takes three hours to cook the soup so you have to wait three hours after M shabas now look check this out look what happens over here look what happens to the it moves over just moves over so says that whatever said before am it it's until it's AER to you you can't have benefit today that's not right so what you didn't know chabas you're not going to eat the soup on chabas that you made on chavas even by mistake but it's also for you forever but other people could eat it now this is the one we're looking for you take the move it over Sandler says that iser for him forever forever even though you did and this is the point this is the only thing you need to know from this whole chart says that if you do it deliberately it's also for everybody forever so you ask me why is this why is it if I this animal on chabas it's worthless because it's worthless according to for everyone even my friends let's inside according to it was it was you could eat it that day on you can you cannot eat it on chabas but you could eat it you could again this not to confuse anybody however long it takes to to cook the food you don't want to benefit from shabas so you wait however long it takes to to cook it and bake it but if you did it on purpose deliberately you cannot eat it forever other people could only other people could eat it you can never eat it forever Thea our case that he this thing on can never eat this for so it has zero value what's what's the reasoning behind all this by the doorway of the of the's house if you want you can sing the again why you keeping it is so that's why I want to bring that point home that chabas is the holiest day of the year what do we do on chabas we take we take a break we take a break to reflect to say to ourselves what happened here created the world we recognize that created us created everything around us we take time to think about it and to realize it and shabas and we yes we do that so many times a year so we got used to it and we don't feel the but it's a shame if you think about we learned in the gar on think about it it goes the amount of Alias you have on that particular day shows Thea of that day shabas has seven aliyas Ander only has six and has five and and has four and a week day has three so it goes by the of the day shabas is the most day shabas is similar toes to the to the of the just like you cannot go ahead and eat this is what we're talking about it's called an action that took place on chabas you did something on chabas shabas you cooked on it's now is iter to eat because it says so in the OR huh you say it's a it's only the anybody want to say huh where's H when we need him so you can't you can't benefit from a carbon so maybe something that you cooked and baked on is also you do have the rights to it but you're just not allowed to eat it maybe this applies even when you did it without intent this that I said is connected to it has to be has to be deliberate and not we have whether the fact that you can't eat this food is that's very important to our to know this is the why because we're saying that if it's to eat then you it has to be that's any that's not you you don't have to pay but if it is RO you do have to pay so this did on CHAS nobody could eat it well it's only happen later on but it's it is a good so it's then you should have to pay we just Mass ofes no shabas itself is KES not the work you do on chabas says now we have a problem if you say again we're talking about the the whole mission we're talking about a case where a person sent a to he stole the animal he himself didn't he sent somebody else to and we're saying that it's not a now if you say in middle of the word if you say that what you what he did that he Sheed doesn't allow you toat this animal m not so therefore you don't pay you only pay when it's a really good according to you you said it's a whatever you want to say so how could say that oh I'm going to give you aass you can't eat the food and because you can't eat the food that's why it doesn't even make sense because because you did something on chabas that you can't eat that's why you shouldn't pay you should pay says theor you're right here look at this chart for a second if you stole and you would be why because according to it is just if you still and you do then it's not then you don't have to pay turning of the I know you guys really wanted to hear it and I heard it like four or five times wait so this some people the M wait the whole so I could turn the page and they could scream sponsor sponsored by Greg Haber for the success and safe return of our and hostages for Greg for stepping [Music] in oh guest oh Lauren Spielman we want to welcome him who he's not a guest sh what's your name shom shom are you a guest when was the last time you were here years oh you are a guest so what I just saw you recently then I just saw you recently no you m fresh in my mind Shi okay I'm sorry sh from Virginia norfol Virginia so when did we about norol Virginia two years ago minutes ago in the back no no but weo about me and Sloan I never had a I destroyed him in tennis you were there you saw Jordan Sloan okay fine not anymore now yeah not anymore those areal get matter it has to be that's what he said if you if you kill an animal and it's not a so it's not you don't pay the say what does mean that's a can't be a killing has to be something that you could eat what does mean so like this oh so let me show you I'll do a demonstration that you don't you don't really need this demonstration but why not an animal has two pipes the trachea this by the way looks exactly like the trachea I think we've seen it we Sheed it we took it out it has these these rings and that's why every house in has one of these coming out of their window in front of the building to remind us it's it's not that I found this pipe that they started from that they took that and they said okay not this is not a good knife for but this is the only knife that cuts through air conditioning pipes actually there's another knife that when my wife saw me trying it out she oh no no no no no that's my special meat knife no okay it happens to be that this Cuts much better please don't by the way I I was in the and I saw the the Muslims when they for they just take a knife like this and they Mish they don't there's no you have to this and they don't do go over with their fing no no no just take any knife fine there's two sheas when it comes to to that in order for the to be a it's when he gets all the way to the end I could do it what but it's a waste of time fine I'll do it here go no you see this no no no no right now I don't know how that happened over that was from yesterday ro ro but I need Ro of the two things fine so when I get to the end it's so what happened is if that's the case I have and I have happening at the same exact time all the way when I got to the end in the beginning there's nothing there's no there no nothing this is a person that's saying to himself I'm doing this for but if you go with the second so basically what it means is that begins right over here and ends over here okay so look I'm doing this but this is very important to watch if without this you wouldn't understand the it go oh the black is hard to see fine it goes like this I'm tell me when I did I'm right right now I didar right now why because I said I'm this is and starts all the in the beginning but I cannot eat this animal yet I have to wait until the end so it doesn't become Roy until I go all the way in the bottom I don't care about my finger I care about the stender okay that's where it becomes at the end but happened over here five seconds before this it's a big problem this animal became a so became also became worthless so by the time I got over here and I made it Roy it was already I already made something Roy that was I shouldn't owe this guy four and five I could only owe a guy four and five when I make something Roy I never made ity because as soon as I nicked it it became it only became when I got down here if I hold other so both of them happen all the way at the bottom because the whole the whole happens at the end over here he's saying the even happened in the beginning the the the to eat it you hear it's a little tricky because eating yes it's part of I can't eat it I have to do it's only at the end or by [Music] the when when anal a little bit you made it also the rest of the what's the rest of it's already the and you didn't even check the owner's animal again we're talking about a GH who's a tremendous and he's like how over I want to pay the guy four or five times she says the only way I can do it is obviously let me make if I hold so then I won't be I won't be the because I'm gonna as soon as I Nick it I'm Po from the D the oh so let me do it in a way that I'm I'm going to say that it's only going to work at the end I'm making it at the end oh this is the same yesterday that's also very very strong and you threw it over the fence and he knew about had a hard time got trauma and then he decided to do all these afterwards he wants it to happen over here yes you're right I it's AAR over here I don't want it to Bear here I'm I'm going to wait I'm waiting waiting waiting wait over here over here I just made it at the same exact time says very good what about it's not even the owners anymore it's also why should I pay him four and five I didn't do anything to him he didn't do anything he didn't check the owners beautiful think about it like this when it comes to if I steal all the in the warehouse I take all the croutons $10 million worth of croutons for my M that's like a $30 million value it's a croutons you know super croutons is crons and and then comes P it's it's worthless what am I supposed to do do I pay $10 million to o no I take the whole all those truck that I stole from I give it right back to them here and I'm poter from paying them that's it's worthless no I just have to pay back the thing what happens if somebody comes and burns all those CW oh I'm burning it so you just burned 10 million dollar of mine why with those croutons I can pay back a same thing over here the story is very very simple Bak says a lot of words that a guy was watching a bull for somebody else and while he was watching that bull that bull went and killed another human being and we take the bull and we kill the bull now the guy has an option either to pay a brand new bull because he was The Watcher or he could take that bull that killed and return it and he would be Potter but the bull that killed is worthless for everybody in the world besides the Shyer the Sher has tremendous value in this bull because all he needs to do is take the bull and put it in the original owner's backyard and he doesn't have to pay him $2,000 for a new bull but now if you the GH of took that bull that's worthless and Sheed it now you just cause him a $22,000 loss because he's GNA have to buy a new bull I the bull is worthless for him it's worth $2,000 let's see inside everything happened in the house of and they already passing that this bull has to die we have to take on two over is that if you take that bull that's worthless and it's and I give it back to the owner it's as if I returned a perfect Bull and he also if I cause you a loss I just to grum in the loss you have to pay for the full loss like destroying croutons after P which are and the worthless you have to pay for the full amount of the this there's two things in Kim there's something called a and something called an another which one is what one of them is that I want this animal daa to be a carbon and one of them is I'm going to bring a animal in general does anybody remember which one is what zoo so it goes like this is the newer and the better [Music] version that a dve a beer is in a zoo so means this particular one we're not talking about this case we're talking about I take upon myself to bring an animal and I say this should be an animal now typically if you steal a from my backyard and you sh it you should be po why from because it says friend and this is but over here since I cause you damage of physical monetary damage why because I have to bring another o cuz I said I'm going to have to bring a o not this o so if you steal and kill this animal that's o I have to bring a second one says you have to pay for the full animal even so this GH of caused monetary damage that's why he has to pay you're asking me if it's a it's it's worthless why should he pay four or five times the answer is it's not worthless for him it's worth a lot because he could use it to pay back the owner and that's why I have to pay I told him this Su of a guy that steals an Kipper that he gets malus if he and he also has to pay that's what it says in the mishna says and we establish that the Mna goes according to that says you could do both and who argues obviously the doesn't go like him look at this in the Mish we have six cases shaber he sh it for medicine he shs it for his dogs he shs it and he finds a hole in the heart and he shs it in the part of in the in the where you're not allow the regular animal only soim the last two cases he doesn't have to pay do you know why cuz the last two cases is a case where the the is nothing if I sh an animal that has a hole in the heart I sh the animal in theik I can't eat it if I can't eat it it's not a real you don't pay that everything above him because he says these two masma all the four in front of him he's so let's take it the what's the first one would hold it's he gets malus oh but we know just told me the whole M goes according to Mayor I have another in the Miss itself theim holds only the last two cases he's meaning the top case is says no you didn't understand and we explained it when we learned the Miss actually take a look no only the two on top of that does he argue in other words if I and I find the hole in the heart it's not I can't eat it but if I Sheed for my dog I could eat it it happens to be that I Sheed it for my dog to be for for medicine but that doesn't take away from the fact that it's a good therefore in those two cases you are what about perhaps holds that you're really Potter it's like what it is it's another Miss down down there okay fine I'll take it out fine we're not even talking about you see I didn't even put you're right you see I didn't even put a arrow there simple what happened the guy steals from his father he so therefore he's to his father then his father dies so y some of that simple case here's a simple in he steals from two people he admits to one of the partners that he stole what's when he admit from because he admitted but he only admitted to one the other one he denies he says no I didn't steal it then the other one brings two ad him that he stoen how much is he now he he should have paid four so now it's going to come out that he has toay pay this partner two but the other partner he doesn't pay two the question is is this such a thing is paying half of or it's only the full amount says perhaps the said you have to pay the full amount over here he is paying five it's uh what's the word I'm looking for it's in comparison it's um no it's Noor not propor maybe proportionate um prated Pro prated in other words there's two partners okay so for the two partners I'm paying four now for each partner I'm paying two I paid two it was the full amount it's just I'm not dealing with the two people I'm dealing with one out of the two so for that guy I'm giving two maybe that's considered as if I paid four not completely you know what I'm saying Pro maybe pration is okay you don't pay in that case says what you do I explain this here the son after his father dies he gets to inherit part of the D so how much is he going to end up paying his brothers three let's say there four brothers he gets one part his brothers get three so he didn't pay the brothers four or five he only paid the brothers three what are you looking at me what what bothers you oh I also thought that I knew that that's what's bothering you I saw you I saw the coming out he's asking is paying he's paying himself he's himself maybe he's himself he goes in the mirror he says I'm to myself that I'm too late already because he paid he might says no his father sued him in court so he was 100% so it's as if he paid then but so what so it's a one specific case that he took him to and they pass and he has to pay but what if not what's the opposite of the opposite of the question is when we try to say this exact story and say the opposite of the story we didn't say that the opposite of the stories didn't go to the en one story is he went to the en the opposite of that should be he didn't go to the enti what do we do with saying why are we jumping to another story that that he after his father died go to the opposite story that he didn't bring him to B then it it works better with the words that happened after his father di but you're right the opposite of the story is what you said fine we could stop right over here have a wonderful day have a wonderful chabas M shabas 8:00 and 9:15 for Hebrew whoever everybody and anybody's interested M over here at a quarter to two I think there's also another Minion I want five to one 5 to one and Accord it to two [Music] for [Music] have a quick question is anybody opposed to starting the shear every single day at 710 instead of 7:15