Daf Yomi Bava Kama Daf 69 by R’ Eli Stefansky

[Music] good morning is being sponsored for these that uh were buried yesterday Schwarz and Yakir heer hexter he hexter and also Gabriel from the neighborhood mom is one block away tell you look Ina and they died on the same day um this morning somebody asked me to do a search on my email and uh I came I saw an email that I never opened up and this from two years ago so I figure I'll I'll read it hi belly my name is ABI I'm one week away from my 36th birthday I I wasn't always a learner was never able to sit through a Shear committing to Kus was tough so I sort of gave up on it one day about a month ago M schi Goldenberg and Isaac SCH convinced me to come watch the D with them on Thursday night mon I was skeptical at first but I figured worst case I would have some good sh when the D came on I saw you for learning ad mid I was intrigued so I kept watching by the end of the night I was hooked and signed up to learn last Sunday I made my first seeum ever this is two years ago Monday December 20th 2021 first time I usually read all emails I don't read them during she I saw this one was UN red so really the daff you don't remember from that day but the email you remember you know what we'll find out because I sent it to moland I said I asked him if this guy's still doing the I'm trying to find the right words to thank you for reiting my spark in love to learning that has Chang the dynamic of my house my kids see that I learn every day and it makes an impact on them I want to thank you for getting me back into learning with with signed AI by the way my good love something your good morning Bo wake up saying it daily okay whatever that means the sponsored by Anonymous from Lakewood Mal we have a long D it's a little bit of a not a long but I don't want to go late so I'm I'm skipping emails for the most part for the unity of the month all that come from supporting why do you find that so funny Gary when is no coming back ah he's back okay I miss him REI Gary and say Relentless commitment Tod number five fman in memory ofly from Anonymous in Manchester who joined the she at the beginning of is and tonight to the Rubenstein and the wiin in honor of MD's recent new member May from Mr sirloin steak oh maybe that's the guy that took my steak I don't know that's to do I have no idea par grandmother's bris known have Al may may they be for all Anonymous for the the part of the month Anonymous for easy child birth his daughter and a Health y baby boy say I have two questions if I own an orchard like the story with rosi Val and somebody comes along and takes one of the fruit off my tree and I'm a nice guy I want to be I want to I say you know what the the orange that he took off my tree I want to be mafer today could I do that or not and why could have be MAF and orange that he already removed and took to his house you know if you ate it you didn't eat it yet but it's not in my possession doesn't matter he says doesn't matter I thought it has to be my possession no okay we going see that like that at least one another question another question the oranges on the tree I want to be MF I don't know which one I know some ghab is going to come by usually once a day some guy comes by sees nice fruit comes by grabs one orange I want to be when the orange is on the tree right now I don't know which one he's going to steal whichever one he steals that's the one I want to be M I want to be MF I want to be MAF what's the what's the yes or no could I be mafer right now an orange I don't know which one one of the tens of thousands I'm going to be MAF oh oh can we it's K maybe to turn that off before this year yeah so exactly you heard what this said he's from what another Wu guy he also does the program he also donates for the Turning of the Dy he says it has to do with the he's right so we're holding four line oh we have guests we have not brother-in-law what's your name sadic trap from London a big big who else who what's your name dler he's been here so he's a [Music] regular what go to shalom shalom what's his name got I forgot his name the guy that's right he's engaged being marri okay send my love my ma he's not a guest either he's an older one okay so four lines down from here we have a case a guy stole a sheep but there's no the owner didn't give up on it it's in the r of the ghav so no no one can be no one can make it a car no one can give it over to the why [Music] because in order for you and this is very important this today's right here says if it's not in your possession you hear if it's not in your possession you don't have the right to be magd it's not in your it has to be your the owner can't be magd the GH certainly can't be it's not his well you can't be mag something that's not yours okay so that's okay okay I go like more okay fine oh here comes say says really say that if it's not in your possession you don't you don't have any authority over it so first of all like an anonymous any time in an anonymous Mna says that it was done deliberately rebi took out all the names made an anonymous mishna Mish why to show that that's the okay so that's number one he holds like the what does it say about yeah so here we have the the simple chart the first three years of a tree tree is AR and it's also you can't have any an from it the fourth year is we showed already yesterday has the same like Shen Shen you could eat it yourself in if you don't want to bring it to you bring the money you redeem it for money bring it to and the fifth year anybody could eat from it St as a as a side note I had a small tree on on my porch and every year we were mup if it was net revi or not we weren't sure we're like eight years into it seriously but we had nerving we weren't 100% sure finally when we like kind of sure that we could eat from it the tree died just now recently I had to turn off the sprinkler because water is getting to the neighbor underneath then sh is so we never got to eat the fruit the the small oranges you have to start all over again so this is what they would do they put a bunch of mud around the vineyard and when people saw mud and a pile of dirt all around they they understood this is a caride this is in the fourth year fourth year obviously you're not allow to steal but if you do steal you should know that not only you over on gazel you're also going to be over on eating fruit outside of your and why would they put dirt just like dirt that you could benefit from it you could put something in the ground and and something will come out you could PL something if you redeem it with money you could have an off from it and if it was in the third year they would put these shards of of earn wear all around and it would be a sign to people just like if you try to plant in a bunch of shards nothing will come out so too from AR you can have zero from it if there was a c or F and we wanted to warn people even is everybody in those days was on T you don't want to become T because then you touch something and it becomes T then somebody else can't eat from it so they would put lime white lime all around and people knew you saw lime somewhere you stay away today it's blue light blue in it was was white why would they put white it's white like bones disolve the lime and pour even more and make it even whiter don't forget where we're going to we're trying to prove whether or not you have the ability to to bees to be something that's not in your possession says remember name says when do I have to go ahead and put dirt around my my Vineyard that's only on anybody could come by and eat from it so somebody will come by and take from my grapes I need to warn him hey it's the fourth year yes you're all it's Nota but you're not allowed to eat it here in you have to go to with it but in other years unbelievable very strong L feed that Russia let him eat as much as he wants let him die there was a I feel bad I might feel bad sitting there byki sometimes and hearing the questions that people ask or even the SAS you know this this person has this baby has so somebody asked one of the he said you know uh somebody in hisa was stealing a shampoo so he put a chemical in a shampoo that balds you and all of a sudden he sees a b walking around the with half his head here his missing so she wanted to know if he was over on giving a guy a haircut during the three weeks that was a Shila the answer is that it's fine you just let the Russia drink and eat and uh you you no he actually said I'm serious he said you're you're saving him from a of you did the right thing that's what he told him again don't p no sucking from this year at all this just hear say I heard that said that there was where a guy a guy a muscular individual walks into a bar he looks around and he sees a a skinny NE guy in the corner he walks over to him grabs his drink and downs the whole drink so the guy starts crying says why you crying I'll get you another drink guy says no no you don't understand this morning I woke up with the biggest migraine ever I leave to work I Stumble down the stairs almost broke my foot I barely get to the bus I get to the bus stop I see I just missed the bus so I wait there wait I get to work my boss says you're late for the 20th time you're fired see he fires me so I go back home I get home there's a sign on the door I'm sorry but I had to leave no long I lost my wife also I lost so I come to the bar I said that's it I'm going to take my life so I put a bunch of poison in my drink and now you stole my drink you let the guy take the poison and drink it so no there's a real you see somebody uh taking your your tra meat from your freezer you're you're not you have a guest doesn't wash what are the are you let let somebody be over not let somebody do you have to you know the whole Su with with uh from fine the there's a story about this is a real story somebody asked him for for change have change so took out his wallet and started giving change the guy grabbed the wallet and ran away so the screed him I'm giving to you and of course people saw that a guy stole from they chased the guy down they caught him and when they brought the wallet back to says I don't want the wallet I I gave it as a gift I was Mom I wanted him to have the gift I don't want it so theim says the scre What scre What did I say scream yeah that's oh that's the same the email for the correction he screamed you should come here in the Hebrew one there's not a language that I that I could speak properly as I mentioned yesterday says that's because they do when nobody knows they don't they don't announce their they don't say oh look at me I'm a big I do and I give to this yes that Yesa they put money aside and they say when some Russia comes along and steals my thing or stole my thing I am going to give this money is going to be it's going to be that grape that he that he stole and that grape is no longer revi it's a it's the is going to go on to this money they put money and they but look at this l means that already happened not it's a very very important that's the really anything that somebody stole already it's not in my possession that's that's the problem with here somebody took my grapes and ran away Those Grapes that are in his house I am putting money right over here and I'm going to make them he's the balab you're saying the balab need are hear let's get there let's get there I know I know what you're saying he's the balab but he's not it's not I hear very good so again is the one that says that if the animal is not in your possession you own an animal a guy just took it he took it to his house says I cannot make it a carbon because it's not in my house over here the say that you could not you can't you could be somebody's grapes and do something and and have an effect on something that's not in your possession that's the problem is that the is an an M doesn't say anybody's name it says they used to do this and seems like we passing like that so that's a contradiction to St as a side note was called why because P's daughter did so forever we call the greatest the greatest heu on a name that a Egyptian princess called him why because she did and the med says you see from here the power of person does and this is this is even greater this is a that nobody knows about this this new him I'm I'm doing with somebody stole from me he stole he's a GH he stole for me and I'm doing him without any it's the quietest most beautiful okay says remember I told you to remember his name is the one in this Bryce over here so perhaps is not really Anonymous is and since doesn't mean that agrees with him that we have to say like Anonymous and we thought that is anonymous but maybe no maybe is like so says you still you still have a big problem why himself says that is always like so either way you're gon to grab it if you say it's Anonymous is like Anonymous so again you see that somebody that doesn't have possession over his items during the the of aov he still could create when it's not in so he should be able to create dish when it's not in three times in we just had in recently we're not going to go through all three but one case where a person says I give you a get on condition you give me my Frack give me my coat so she agrees so according to it's a good get even though she doesn't return the coat she gives him cash instead of the coat okay over there we don't [Music] pass oh if we just change a little bit of the word the DI in the word it become it comes another that this like the the anonymous is not a Ste to because the the never spoke about something that happened in the past that the guy has power over something that's not in his possession we're talking about something that's still on the tree we have grapes that are still on the tree and the say anybody that's going to grab some of my grapes today right now I am giving this money and putting it aside and it's going to be I'm going to be I'm going to redeem it on this money even though the ACT didn't happen yet and what is that called retroactive clarification BR I'm doing AA right now that's going to take place later on later on we're going to decide which grape my money went on I'm putting this the money aside today right now in the morning and whatever is going to happen that's what's going to go on this money that's only if you hold retroactive clarification or in Hebrew I found out it's called bir retroactivity I came to I thought it's retroactive clarification it turns out they actually have a word okay so col locket what does it say here it says colis locket it's still on the it's still on the ground it's still attached to the tree when somebody grabs some of my grapes Bea they're okay it's not it's not revi anymore because I put money aside so what do you see that I could do this I could do I could be M grapes even though they attached The Vineyard that's what it says there in the future I'm being right now and something that's still attached as so let him be all his grapes let him just redeem everything thisa if he wants to why do he have to come out to retroactive clarification it's not a particular grape that's going to be I'm going to all 10,000 grapes that I have here says cu the wants to go up to himself he wants to eat some of his grapes he doesn't want to everything besides some The Grapes didn't even come out yet they so it doesn't work great so as the nice try you want to change the word instead of whatever they were Mal already whatever happened in the past you want to do whatever happened in the future each one carries its own Problem whatever happened in the past what's the problem it's not in your and whatever happens in the future what's the problem it's bra not so each one has a problem but the says doesn't agree with you doesn't change the word to mlack it it's leate why I'll prove it to you because says actually we're going to have a little tiny sug like that here if you just look this these two things are the same that says that that for the we're going to see in a second that is the same thing as say you shouldn't be over what's the case so it goes like this we know that there are special gifts that we give to the poor and so this is uh I'm not going to go through the the old ones this is what we had Le and that's the main one that we're talking about lead is when a farmer he he carries he's taking his crap through the field two stalks fall down the poor person is allowed to take two stalks what about three three is AER this is just time to show that it fell and you got a booo in 3D we're working on the 3D version it's still in the making but here this is what like okay it's it's from all different angles two yes three not what happens if a takes three what problem does he have gel what else so says there's another problem here two who said that and what about two why oh very good says Robert Earle if he takes two he's from Trum but if he takes three since it's not like it anymore he's so now he's of eating so what does the owner do the owner feels bad for the for the poor the poor doesn't mean to take three he just he's an he doesn't know you take two three doesn't know this stuff okay he never went to Yesa he's too poor to to afford Yeshiva in tuition she I want have him so what do I do a MF it oh that's a good question I like that you hear what he's asking that the heare only works for won't help for for okay right that's why we say like every every on every rich person be okay fine saying good it so do we have to be here if you forgot two two bundles forgot a bundle one bundle two bundles pay the the corner of the field also you leave for these are just the we're talking about now the in the morning you see it's it's cool one says Shak in other words before it started before the problem occurred and the other says in the evening after the problem happened that's stands over there and says whoever takes in the future shall be what is that called retroactive clarification this we're looking for said that it's the same thing as our he says no anything they took already so it says says and the are saying the same thing in other words you can't change the word from what happened to what's going to happen to mlock it says that the are talking about something that happened already says it happened already so how can you change what happened with the with right is the one that says that the are saying the identical thing to and is saying what happens in the future what happened already interesting some somebody bakes mat ER P after yeah that's how it's special so the says that if you do that you should be MF all the the crumbs you have over there just in case so as the how can you be MAF something that's not in your possession this is what we're talking about after is not in your possession anymore you don't have the to be something it's not in your possession that's our and it goes like this the what we said that the and line up the you see it's in his pocket already that's how Yoshi drew it that if it's in if it's in the gav's pocket in the poor person's pocket it already happened and now I'm saying what already happened I want to be MF so the and line up it already happened but we have a little bit of a problem with so we're going to say we have to switch what said didn't say what already happened R said what's going to happen and therefore we also have to switch what the said the said whatever is going to happen I'm going to be MF and that's a question of bre yeah again says that one once it leaves your possession I cannot make a carbon once it leaves your possession I cannot be MAF once it leaves your possession I cannot be so we must say that and and he says that say like and we passing like the so we must switch a little bit of what the what said and therefore the say is not even talking about what happened what happened you're right you have no you have no effect on something that's out of your was talking matters what's going to happen but here's the big big problem doesn't hold a so what's going to happen is also major issue with this can't be either we're gonna switch the words says why you flipping the just once he's switching and moving words around I have a much easier way do this look look at the instead of saying that said that that's line up with keep what said that he said what they did already and just switch what said and said that the line up with if you're already changing name you already changing what they said just say never said that said says the that can't be that doesn't work do that doesn't work it's not good if you line up with in other words is going to be the one that says that whatever they do in the future whatever the GH of steals in the future whatever weedy steals whatever on steals I'm being MAF today I'm being MF now so that means retroactive clarification ah that can't go with doesn't hold of the concept of retroactive clarification so I canot put those words next to the famous a guy buys wine from a he has no time this is ausi back in the day this is ausi today basically is AI today they called they live are they real converts and and G or not were they converted because of the Lions was scared of the Lions or the real the real G they love they want regardless of what it is they're not so on all the mitv certainly not on Trum when they sell to somebody else in fact today we already say that and you can't even buy wine from them but in those days you bought wine from the and it's Ser shabas it's also for you to take why you now to fix something on chabas but you want to drink wine you need to drink wine what do you do so if you hold a bra it's very simple you just say um you see this battle of wine 2% of this battle of wine is truma 10% of this is meer 10% of this battle is Myer sheny 22% or whatever you want to call it exact is TR when M shabas comes whatever's left in the battle that's a 22 % that I was m on shabas if I don't say bre and I say that the Trum is in this battle of wine I have a major problem why because every drop of wine that I'm drinking includes in it 22% Trum and it's also for me to drink Trum misers but if you hold a so we'll find that whatever I left in the bottle the last 22% oh that was the Trum the 2% of the hund is truma 10% is for and N % 10% which is nine right whatever's left because I already took off 10% so if I start out with 100 um 100 um lugan or 100 what's the word I'm looking for um Parts uh okay lug what units if I if I start out with 100 units and I gave 10% or 12% to the to the to the coin and the Ley so I'm now left with 90 units or 89 whatever so 10% of that is nine so that's what it says I could be poed right now because it's not even chabas yet so I could say that the 10% that should go on the money that I have right over here that I could do and he could start drinking so you see there's no if no I cannot change words in the Bry the match up and say that holds yes when says why at the end of the day why are you flipping the you're saying it doesn't work with and that's why you have to switch back but now that you're saying that yes you switch it that is going to hold that it's in order for we have a BB question why say that I can't take a carbon that that's I can't take an animal that's not in my possession and make it a carbon it doesn't add up with so we have to say that the said but himself doesn't hold it's a major contradiction how do I know tell me no so that's also a major problem the famous case says we say brothers who are dividing a yusha when they divide the yusha this brother takes the factory and this brother takes the Mansion do we say that retroactively this is exactly what the father left beha when we decide that this he gets this and he gets that then it comes out that this is exactly what he left or no they made a deal and when you make a deal then you you're more like a purchaser and then every single y it goes back to the original owners the original thing you have to redo the whole all over again it's a major what that every every you have to restart so you see oh so now we have to go back and say that we're talking about anything that was already removed from the tree so we have a problem again the are talking about something that already happened and what's the problem if it happened already how come the gave money to something that's not in their possession the G have walked away with it and the yet held that even though it's not in the possession of the owner he still is able to be uh food and grapes that are not in his possession that's a contradiction to who says that you cannot make an animal a carbon when it's not in possession says the the answer to that is guess what has another M that says exactly like him you know which Miss not gonna believe right under our noses our M from the first Mish that we learned and we're still on that mishna this n it says an Mna if GH of number two steals from GH of number one he doesn't have to pay kful why am i b of okay I understand he doesn't have to pay the the two payments to the first that c is only when you steal from the owner not from a Ghana why doesn't he pay the first GH has to pay C to the owner the second G should also pay C to the owner why he stole it he took it let's say I leave my computer in the B Med and somebody comes and takes it he's a ghav so my computer was by G of number one and you took it so you you took my computer you should pay me you should pay me c the answer is somebody asked that yesterday somebody over here was asking that maybe you I don't know somebody was asking what do you see from this how come you don't p a a concept when it's not in your possession you don't deserve anything you don't get careful for something that's not in your oh so if it's not in your possession then you cannot make it a carbon either you lose authority over it and if you lose authority over it you can't make it a carbon that's what I say so I have a problem there's a there's a mish called and that's a contradiction to me but I like the Mish and that goes with me here here we have the two things we have our Mish that you cannot be mag something that's not in and we have this say you could be something why did he pick the blue over the red because our has from the a person is his house what does it mean his house nobody takes his house his house is his it's in his possession in order for you to be mag anything has to be your possession and likes that why what that to do with no the [Music] other you're saying by he says not like that but he argues on no what does he say he says only that's only in heare only onent possibility no no no we oh on that s yeah but said even on that s we pass forget that okay so tells us that these two are identical that what says that you should be ma or people would be MAF their wheat so that the Ani doesn't take three illegally we're MAF and it's they say something similar that a ghav that takes my my grapes without not I redeem it for him so the says something very simple if I if I have to come on to to say that this works so if I say this by the I would never know that this goes by the by a golin said something special a poor guy he doesn't know the he's doing it by mistake says Rashi he's he took three instead of two so special you're not over you're not over to take that and say as far as saying it the same by guy that's a GH who deliberately takes my grapes off my my Vineyard without he knows that he's a ghav everybody knows that you're know to take somebody's grapes why would I apply that to to the red so say that's a huge says that it's the same and now we have a lot of words to say this simple concept agre to doesn't agree to that why did it in the red one the left they said let's we feel bad for certainly we feel bad for for who didn't do it on purpose we only did the special luckily says it's the same and if say it in one they say it in the other great and now we have two two more to say the same idea but we come up with a different different concept that what says it's the same these two things when a PO a poor person taking by mistake and a g of taking grapes on purpose we could do something after the fact to help them out it's the same if not for the fact that says that it's the same I would think that is what oh this is a lot a lot of words to say a very very simple thing that remor says that when it comes to M sheni he holds that M sheni you take 10% of all your produce and you bring it to holds it's not yours it's not yours meaning if I want to be mad woman with it I'm not allowed doesn't work I could eat it as much as I want the T gave me a special right to eat it it's not yours yet the only time when I redeem 10% of the my sheni I have to add 25% have to have is 25% I have to add to it only if I'm the owner if you do it for me you don't have to have 25% but wait a minute I'm not an owner you just told me I'm not the owner you told me Hashem lets me eat it but I'm not the owner yeah for you're the owner for everything else you're not so M if I'm not the owner I'm I'm going to take something that I don't own and I'm going to like similar to even though I don't own it even though I'm not under the possession of it I'm going to do something special to it I'm going to be why because the Torah tells me you don't really have to be a true owner even if you're almost an owner oh so let's see inside you should know the sh is not yours it belongs to but nevertheless when you come to redeem it it say if it's yours should add 25% 20% in the of the but it's 25% the way we call it and the Tor calls it your only the owner has to add this 25% so check this out we have called what just happened it says by by and it says by by so we make a comparison even though it's we just established it's not really yours but when it comes to redeeming it it's [Music] yours so too when it comes to the fourth year gra even though it's not your possession so for me to help out the GH that stole my grapes the to put it back into my domain and I I redeem it this revive when you want to eat it it's not really yours it's like my but yet the Torah said you're allow to redeem it that's why over here this guy could help out the GH even though it's not in his possession when it comes to since it's yours right when I drop two stalks on the floor who owns it me I'm the owner until until the comes and takes it only when it's your possession you have the ability to be once the by mistake takes three instead of two it's not in my possession anymore let's just do these three lines because the end of if not for the fact says that these two are the same who is so what do I gain by that I gain that you ask me a question he has to go like the why does he have to go like because they're Anonymous no they're not Anonymous is an individual called and that's why he doesn't have to go with him you shouldn't ask a questiones have to but unfortunately himself says that are the same but not the same person have a wonderful day now we'll say we have to say to that this week we should hear this week they should get rid of those top and this week we should find some of those hostages gonna [Music] say [Music] for