Daf Yomi Bava Kama Daf 5 by R’ Eli Stefansky

good morning live from eor at the Trump Durell right here in Miami thank you so much for having me bski for setting this thing up and ovadia stavsky where's ovadia we could we could edit that if that's a problem for the other year you know okay for having me uh yesterday was amazing I was in Woodmere two hour notice and we had close to 160 people and um they sangu so I want to see what the real estate guys know com but we do it with hearts it's a small room we have our Tech guy here he's never heard the song before always is [Music] oh [Music] [Laughter] [Music] is [Laughter] [Applause] [Music] by [Music] GL [Music] said before we start over 30 children with a nine-month-old 30 children that are in the tunnels right now for over 30 days captured without some of them without parents some of them witnessing their parents getting murdered in front of their eyes 5,000 injured 1,400 people lost their lives we'll say cap together everybody together from the beginning to the end with together [Music] she [Music] for [Music] for so I just want to reiterate this we see every single day three times and maybe it's to pay more attention to these words that are get to every single thing that we just said to the to the 1400 all those families that are depressed and Shiva and they don't even know if to said Shiva are their loved ones coming home what happened to them and all the thousands and thousands of people that were displaced from their homes maybe they didn't lose anybody but they don't have a home they're in hotels they don't have clothing they don't have all their belongings each each one has new meaning now so for coming and it's a great opportunity actually to take upon yourself something everybody says what should I do for the war I'll send uh bulletproof vest this that we could do very very simple take upon yourself more if you're not part of the da join the Dai program anyone join the da there's somebody sitting right over here in the front Steve Weinstock he got a free gamar from join.com I'll take fre and since then he donated Etc also donated $20,000 towards K this guy Mar cash he got a free gamar I said why do you need a free gamar you own a few companies why do you need a free gamar he said I want to freeor so I have this that is that locked me in took a free now I have to do it otherwise I'm G since then he gave us a couple hundred, maybe more so grab a fre even if you could afford it give you that and uh take it upon yourself to learn a little bit more all those who need and you know who needs the most yourself so it's always good to learn a little bit more T I'll just read um few emails here here's a picture from the s in Chicago I basically don't recognize anybody CU I was there just the other day in sheer there's only seven eight people but for the S wow they coming out of the woodwork listen the rule is you can't come to the see unless you come to a couple she my friends this is in London and they had a good morning R they said they had over 70 people in London at the seeum here they're doing the good morning but we don't have volum maybe we do let's see if we can do it through [Applause] this there's always that one guy that's off be that says Ah a little bit early you know you know that I hope see finds you well they had a chance to unwind after the amazing shs recently experienced they wanted to take a moment to express my deepest incredible that to be part of the Gathering of is truly remarkable and speech is delivered incredibly inspiring is unbelievable I came to my old self and left as a new person I'm a changed man he says the Shar during the speeches has left a lasting impact on me especially for shabis day I feel truly fortunate to have had an opportunity to learn from and connect with fellow members of our mdy family voice is 720 people were there for shabas over 900 people for the at night shabas love Hospitality extend us was beyond words it's difficult to adequately describe how beautiful enjoyable entire experience was from the warm welcoming hug from y Klein delicious meals detail every detail was thoughtfully arranged creating that sort of exquisiteness this guy in the Exquisite experience it's like unlike he's going on Google the sorus how do you say this mamish word better okay Exquisite experience I had was unlike anything I've ever experienced before especially considering my background as a CO guy Shas I was reflecting on the fact that if I were giving such an Exquisite shabs without my MD family present I would have enjoyed as nearly as much at or at all the true source of enjoyment of the shabas was not the materialistic things present but rather the presence in the company of my mdy family okay thank you really your efforts in making the sh greatly admire and appreciate and look forward to Future sh shabbatons where we can continue to grow Inspire one another with a heartfelt appreciation and your man from Cleveland maybe they want me to say his name okay maybe you should have said that in the beginning huh he is all right he's taking man he wrote it very exquisitly from I thoroughly enjoyed watching the Spees recorded from the highlights for me were your brilliant father father was there should keep him healthy he was obviously feing off the incredible act he felt there and your speech especially moved by how emotionally became when he spoke your father will come wake you up I had a little bit of a breaking thing at in my speech I didn't I didn't mean to that when I learned in I would sleep till 10 o'clock and my father come knocking the door and Spang on the door sometimes for 10 minutes straight and I couldn't get the words out I was mom was crying because I saw my father there like on this guy son is a a bum getting up at 10 o'clock struggle for many I have struggled for many oh spoke about your father since this is something I have struggled for for many years I shed tears in commiseration this was a real closing in the circle for me since the reason I joined is because I was inspired by the video at the when he said you get up between three and four to learn now that I see how difficult this must been in you doubly impressed morning for you as well looking forward to having you return to the Mothership oh this is just the the people that organized the in London the Harris Ari Davis Lightner Aon Meck shimy Ruben and uh it was amazing 10 people from London and Manchester showed up to the to the Shas which was unbelievable and let me just read the um sponsorships real quickly the is sponsored for theity of worldwide Jonathan El who brought me to MD he fell and only does m return now few people came to me on it's very interesting they said I brought a guy in and I fell off the bandwagon and that guy that I brought in sh me back in So this came like a new mus of Mitzvah Mitzvah you know like you do a Mitzvah and then that Mitzvah actually pulls you pulls you back so bem you'll pull that guy back s Freeman and Sarah jman how do you you pronounce it is Monday November multi get over you able to get over here I know if you fit into there boai mki I know I don't know what he does but do a deal with him chend you put this thing together here put your head in here this is thank you very much oh yeah yeah where where is it let me see thank you for reminding me I have to mention that that should be first in Army front lines be nice a big my aunt and uncle oh I had a picture thank you for sponsoring very very much appreciated all the the tech here it's not it's not cheap um bar foran I had the the video and a picture he's a guy that comes every single day he does another D another and he's on the front lines and he made a seal yesterday it a big thing it went around I think it wasn't even viral they they the whole Camp came and it was a beautiful thing I'll show a picture tomorrow all right picture you yeah but I won't be able to put up here this is not so much fun that I don't have the second screen okay let's just do a little bit of kar today is one of those D him lucky you guys you don't get that much 3D animation that we're trying to to put through Kinder you know what I'm saying it's going to be real stuff for the so we have here the M says this you see this on the screen we're gonna do a quick it's gonna be beautiful look at this Rish says there's another nine of them for a total of 13 you see 5 six seven 8 13 the five okay so there's a total of 13 then comes forget that for a second comes along and says let me add another 11 for total of 24 okay so according to him there's a total of 24 now that we know that it's clar like anything so we go to B and don't worry because if you turn take a peek at B if you have a very very short so we're on like let's see five six lines from the bottom let's go back to he's stuck at 13 he adds another nine to the mishna total of 13 why doesn't he agree to that this all these things so he says this entire list that you see over here in green all these person steals it's a we're going to see maybe there some that are not 50 shek that's a we're talking about regular monetary damages not special you would know it's 50 if a person is in this list as you see number 16 and 17 is godov andin we're not talking about the kaful part of aov that's already number 14 that's Ka a ghav a GH that was M Potter he comes to B he says you know I stole what should I do if he says that he doesn't have to pay the penalty of K so why is it in the list you just told me only things that are a are in the list G it's m [Music] says be in the list of rabish why does rabish only have 13 in his list let's add another too he says we'll just focus on a guy who's watching let's say somebody's animal and then the owner comes says give me my animal says it was stolen but really it's in his backyard what is he he's a ghav aov like that what do you say GH of like that who stole the the object that he was watching does he have to pay the ca or not anybody nobody's going to answer you're all scared you're going to make a mistake huh don't be shy what do you say what's St what comes to M yes no no yes okay we have beautiful so hear and if he does it how do you know he's a golin he did it when nobody he's looking he's not a golin he's a ghav a ghav means that he did it at night when nobody he's looking and a gin is he did it right in front of the owner if he did in front of the owner then he can't say oh was stolen so he's aov so anyway the answer is yes so it's already included I'm not going to put something look let's go back to rai's list you see is the top one number five it's already there he's a g is just not there so let's go back to this list why is GHIN in's list it's already in the previous list of the only way gets to 24s if he uses 13 of so he already used and that's included that's G if you think about it didn't do a he didn't go into somebody's property and remove a bicycle and bring him to his house the kid delivered a bicycle to his house and then he stole it then he told the kid I don't know where it is so he didn't steal it so it's a different category it's Geva 100% he's he's a GH of but it's a different way he got in a different way it's a different category he talks about it twice once when it comes to his by itself and one when it comes when he does it and he goes out and steals it so it's two types of top of now take a look at the list we're still looking at this list right number 18 on the list is AD what two witnesses come forward and they say they saw that so and so did something whatever he stole and then another two witnesses say that IMU you're Liars you were with us at the eor and it's not possible that you were in New York that day you weren just just a lie so what's whatever they wanted to whatever they accused that individual they stole $100 they have to pay $100 the that's considered M why is that considered M they didn't steal anything from the guy the made a that they have to pay whatever they wanted to do why is it considered M says rash it's considered M because every time it's a different price if they wanted to steal 200 they have to pay 200 if it's 700 700 says Rashi is like okay we have to understand why whatever those are those are they're every time it's the same amount says so again why is in the list you just told me the list uh that that the reason why doesn't have 24 is because only talks about M but this is m is M so how come is not in the list of how has 13 he should have 14 Mr says because he holds it is a that considered says why because they didn't do a didn't do a so it's must be a and there that if they come forward and you see that it's a that's why it's notes so then he should have extra one in sh why list there's two types of one is another called The two types why according to it's two if you don't hold like great but if you're going hold see you hold like when it comes to other things as well so put in why here it goes you ready explain like this when you have two axes that damage each other one ax ax one sh that causes $100 damage to one the other one causes $200 damage to the other you see how it is in the chart what's that the one on the left the MU that caused more damage he has to pay the difference what does he pay he pays 100 the difference is 100 the one on the right caused $100 to him so the one on the right owes a 100 now the one on the left cost $200 back to him but he's already owed 100 so he raised 100 and he just pays 100 that's POS right everybody agrees but what happens if the one on the left is a meaning this is the first time Karen you only pay n sham you only pay the full amount if he did it three times if he's a Tom you only pay half so let's do the same math again he did 100 to him he did back the guy on the left did 200 back to him so he should owe 100 so what happens 100 and then what he split that in half because he only pays half of what he's supposed to play 50 says that this that did the same thing to a human being not with the extra he should pay the full 100 not 50 he doesn't get off here so now we have a different type of we have two types we have a a sh that damages sh we just saw it's different he only pays $50 and we have a sh that same exact sh the time that damage is a human being he pays $100 it's two types of damage one pays 50 one pays 100 so it should be in the list the two the two types says already broke this idea I think that a who oh it's gal because we're in the real estate convention so what's very interesting the the Miss we had in that Bas if you decide to pay with real estate is very different than if you decide to pay with a computer or with cash or with anything else real estate is different Bo say guys on a big level here when you pay with cash it's cash you pay with a a a computer okay a go broken it's not it's not an apple okay when you pay with real estate you have to pay with the best Aliyah so over here Aliyah hold that thought for somewhere else Aliyah over here means you have to pay for from other things forget what I just told you real estate forget it okay over here Aliyah means that rather than paying from whatever this animal is worth it's very interesting let's say an animal this Tom guy goes ahead and chews up a guy's briefcase a million dollars how much does he have to pay he's a to how much does he have to pay half a million dollars no he only has to pay the value of what he's worth he's $1,000 the owner gives him this animal he says do whatever you want with it here I know I damaged a million sorry here's a thousand that's M that's whatever the animal's worth but he's saying no that you would have to pay I would think that he has to pay from other sources he only pays whatever the ax is worth says the like this you're right that according TOA sometimes a Tom pays only $50 but that's only when he's worth 50 and what if he's only worth 25 so only pays 25 so he couldn't put him in a list it's not a complete list he can't say sometimes he pays this some heays that so mea he's not list it's it depends how much he's worth okay we go so going back let's let me let me see if I could shut it off for a second I'm just going to go up and let's see what happens person who forcefully person who gets married and he lies he makes up a story about his wife that she didn't have whoa It's M if to pay 50 shekele that's M so obviously we're not talking about the 50 shek what are we talking about we talk about the bu he caused her he caused her physical bu he caused her uh depreciation also it's it's it's weird but that's how you do it how do you how do you value on a slave market what a sh's worth with and without if you want to buy sh for your okay to me doesn't it doesn't sound fair because he's talking V it's a different price okay that's how it is again we're talking about there's two components here this the component they have to pay the father you have to pay 30 shekele 50 shekele but there's also a monetary damage here that you caused and you have to pay that says it should be in the list it should be in R's list has 13 here's another three says what do you want to pay her for the okay so take a look in list it's already there number 10 if you're talking about it's right there number 13 all the way in the bottom you depreciated her that's already number nine that's regular so we're gonna talk about the the component that we already established he's not talking about next in the list means you take your friends's fruit you make them Tom so he's a c he can't eat it less value you take your friend's fruit and you put in one fruit that's truma now he can't eat it is he doesn't know which one is truma so what does he do with it he to give it as a gift he could sell for a few Pennies on the dollar so it's a damage he makes somebody's this is all M listening okay should be when you're something make something do you see the T you can't see it even with the microscope you can't see it so depends how you view it if it's considered he if you consider that is hez I don't care if you can see it or not you can't see germs you made something whatever we'll get there in a second then it's included in the regular that would be list which is number nine and if it's not considered real damage so then the only thing is we give oh so we're going to see in a second very good good Cas so I don't just say it like when I don't have a good answer I say let's see in sometimes I do rather now it happens to be it's in thear later it's a great trick though no we don't know and then later on you'll forget then I'll say no no it's coming up nobody's watching this it doesn't really matter so tell you my secrets okay why put it in his in his list when it's already there in it's something special it's called so a couple of interesting questions have sh you go into like a medical you go into a doctor's office and he has like a syringe there in a a sterilized syringe in a in a plastic you go you open it up you touch it a little bit and then you close it back up did you cause damage legally did you cause damage 100% but you can't see the damage now it's not sterile but could you tell with your eye if it's sterile not sterile so it's damage that's not nicker so damage that's not nicker is that considered damage could I could I be you it's a question I'm just asking a Sher so there are those who say yes like you're saying you're very sure but I'll tell you the reason the reason is because he did it be he did be okay what about over here there's another sh listen to this one says you shouldn't bite your nail and throw it on the floor because it could damage a pregnant woman shade this that guy goes and then puts it on the floor and then later on he finds out this this woman she miscarried or not no oh very good they actually say they say that they talk about it you're right but the K mishna says that since the go don't believe in it it's not a Nez for them it's only a Nez for us we we hold that that's it's not considered NE that's what he says something like that just huh so but who believed in it the woman believed in it the guy believed in it here's another thing and if let me ask you something the the the if it's a bar what's so we're going to learn that he's pter why because he's Adam Adam a woman is a Adam she has to be careful herself if a person falls into a pit that you dug in he should have he should have noticed it okay see you soon huh how you going to see it okay he are hear reason why it's in list is because there's a there two types of that you could notice and you don't notice why it say 13 now that knew how to count we we don't we don't try to help them out with numbers even if it's a very long thing there's 13 items we don't give them a total at the end and if we give them a total that means it's coming to exclude something else so so why did our say we know we can count say the doesn't believe in who says it's 13 it's only four why does he say it's 13 because he wants to exclude who says it's 24 here's another thing going back to what if a person kills another person with a killed him he said some special he knows the he says it he killed him what you say so I think says that it's why because there was a there was a who he spoke he had to move his lips that's considered a it's like a a guy tells uh how do you call it the the it understands voice commands the GPS how do you say it no the voice command is that what it's called what tell Siri to to shoot your gun at somebody here Siri shoot the gun at the front door that's not of course because he said fine so from killed the MIT with his words and such a l like you're saying you're killing me with the am so want to repeat it quickly V why always said I thought it was very appropriate he said that this actually how killed the mitz we all know rash Rashi says Shem but Med it brings down another two opinions was it with the egg rif with a fist he punched him in the face and killed him karate or he had a shovel there that they were building with and he took the shovel and knocked him over the head so he asks who cares sometimes says it's not to us how is it going to help my life now how you going to make a whole out of it it's not and besides how can you have when one says a shovel one say the two how you gonna put the two things together so he said that that MIT is not only in that generation that MIT is that's the and I'm just saying K and IMR and that you need the Army we need us theem it's a combination how do you kill that that myy with the infrastructure that we have the buildings and the the technology and this and and the guys in the front line and the Tyra it's a three three-step thing and we do our job our thing is to learn Tyra okay so why does say 24 there's nobody after him there's nobody that says 50 so why did he say 24 to exclude somebody who goes to the government as Mo on you and somebody so mefo means typically mefo means that aen let's see if we have it here has okay so means that during one of the over here's a picture of ZKA as he's doing this Z thinks in his mind that he's going to eat the carbon a day after he's allowed to let's say you're only allowed to eat the cover for two days he's gonna eat in three days from now that's rash over here says it's I'm not exactly sure why he sticks that in okay so there's the famous that with there was a moer and he went ahead and he met him in the Mikvah and he drowned him he felt that this guy got rid of him I saw a m from the raan the raan told his taled same exact thing he says that guy is meer he's putting C in danger when he goes down to the river make sure he doesn't get out of the river so the guy went and drowned him killed him then a few days later that person that killed the M died so the ran said it must be that when he killed that moiser he had kavana have like he had a enough from it he's enjoying himself ah not I'm doing a Mitzvah I'm Killinger but this feels good I'm getting rid of whatever whatever this you had a back and that's why he died all right I just had a very interesting story with me there was a a guy that called up the city I mean just literally within the month called up the city and told the city that I dump um construction stuff my my contractor put construction stuff in the regular garbage they came on Friday they took apart the whole garbage can and they found bags with they were basically tarps no like concrete tarps took it out and they gave me a 730 shekele uh fine and when the cops were there this guy comes out and goes I call the cops and don't ever put it in the garbage again I said I told him you're a moiser you're a moiser okay fine so I went to R and the r said 100% he's a Meer he has to pay me the 7:30 so you can't go to the city like that and so besides that it was it wasn't even stuff that they for whatever reason they he paid me at home the said he gave me 730 and last week I paid him back I said I just wanted the money from you don't ever do that to somebody don't ever call we could have the money back I paid it money can't be a moer I'm not going to put him the mik or anything like [Music] that oh so it should be in the list so listening ask listening why is it not okay you told me the number 24 comes to exclude two more things we're talking about thinking thoughts while with we're not talking about because it happened with his mouth he didn't take action he went to the authorities and and made a phone call we're not talking about what about it's also just with his mouth's person says the is that could only be after after a beia could he come if there's no be he can't make up such a story so it's debor that happens after AA that's different it's not stor a guy calling up hey so and so threw out garbage in the garbage can or he this guy wants to kill the King this is AA and afterwards is a ask I hope this is your question if not tell me what your question Wass and there's no the considers it a story action that he wanted that he did was just the calls it does that answer your question a little bit [Music] good so I want to ask a question anybody learned the yet like yesterday's three days ago anybody that's it that's it what is the difference between and any you know what one what what what not you not what body excellent what do you do the no I'm saying you do it by yourself better to do by yourself than with a Shear you see that unbelievable and so because you guys didn't know I'm going to force you to watch this new we're trying this new technology it's um it's not there yet I'm ask him and doesn't have audio yet but I think it could it could uh if you're a visual person it could maybe make more of ver and here it goes let me see here we go it's this is all original art kilu it's like uh these are brand new characters designed for mdy this guy's a this is okay check this out this is what this sad said MD y chapter all right it's fine even adults enjoy it sometimes andaa you want to see what n is now I didn't this happened over shabas I would have told him to take out one or two of the the scenes here but okay the point is that's n it's with his body of horns versus his body that's what he said very good I don't know if I would remember that okay but 3D why am I saying that goes like this says is a is I'm not going to show you the video of the it's also cool the the the the the bull he bites off a mirror off a Ferrari okay why is that Karen because he has no an from it he's biting yes with his teeth but he has no what's the to of shenai what is the my favorite baby in the home also this is uh fine the point is that the guy it's only because he didn't remember had you remembered I wouldn't put you through this also means even though it's not with the mouth it had a n scratched his back in doing so it broke a wall so if so where are all the told us from these 13 from the 24 saying you have there's 13 we theas I could come up with a little told for Karen how I gonna come up with the for where the says this is what I was supposed to say before that when it comes to paying with real estate you have to pay pay from your best real estate can't give him a building in in Indianapolis that's where I own stuff in Cleveland also am yeah you have to give him Manhattan well not Manhattan that's M have to give him where Lakewood forway woodmar tell me even now woodmar used to be you could buy house wood all the schleppers bought in Woodman right million dollars for for a knockdown they said milon dollar okay but one bedroom apartment is a million dollars already something like why do you have to pay M anybody remember we learned in G you have to pay M why what's the SAR to make sure people don't damage other people be careful if you damage you're going to lose your apartment in Lakewood it's not St I'll get I'll be careful okay so here's the point okay so before we get into that the point is that when it says doesn't mean it has toldo o just means that you have to pay from the real estate the best of the real estate that's what o means you see it's a new it's a new idea in equals the best real estate not oice that it has t the best real estate so just so you understand what's going on here you kept on seeing it here first of all the says over the best of that's how we know have to pay M now check take a look at this we saw these list we're familiar with it if you look all the way now to the left look what happens sorry forget the left the middle it says say each one says either Etc go to the next list they all say one of those words all them we know from those you know that you have to pay it's getting late what's the okay so the sh is not like fire and the fire is not like a man or like but what is his point is just saying just say one of them say sh and I learn all Hees in the world you can't learn sh like the M explains from sh you can't learn because this has a special thing this has a special thing so you're not gonna be able to learn one from the other have life what what's the point in this why does it say that [Music] so take a look at this this you need a nice chart there's a massive Rashi here so it goes like this let's say it should say over here that thear says so say two what are you gonna say Karen so Karen you can't learn anything from Karen why because it has intent It Wants To Be Ma so we'll prove from Shen Oram talk about let's say Shen Shen a he doesn't have and you still have to pay oh but Shen has a different problem that has an all when it eats so car will prove to you that a the K are from if you take two things let's say Karen and Shen I could learn the rest question is then why do I need the rest okay that what take a look again at the chart look look at the screen it becomes cool here the bottom line is that but there's a problem that's what it says they have those two k anden or it's okay look Top Line you cannot learn out anything from those two Karen and Chen let's say you want to learn a from Karen Chen you can't why because they they are different than a they have something special it's called R they have life and if they these two Karen and Chen have life I can't learn a which is all the way on the side I want to learn a from these two go out and they're mazic and you have to watch them so also it's the D to be ma burn down buildings and you should watch it no it's not similar to Karen and Chen because Karen has a life a human being has life or if it's a tooth teeth have life okay so it comes out like this bottom line is you need all four in the M that's what that's what the is coming out now right said maybe just the Torah should say two k and Shen and I'll learn the rest of the mishna no you can't so I need all four says you don't need all four why I wonder how any other she explains this one look at this rash look it's gonna be G look at this very easy let's learn from bar you say no you can't learn anything from bar you learn from bar bar doesn't go it's not maik bar is maik bar doesn't go in and it's Ma so they go and they destroy so make if you create a bar in a street and the Torah says you have to pay for a bar so certainly if your animal goes and destroys something of course you have to pay it's very P ni so what's the that oh the bar was created to damage you can't learn a your animal wasn't created for that it was created to plow wasn't created to damage oh but but Karen could prove to you the point is is RA if I take bar and anything else then I can learn everything else from it why because you're telling me bar is so powerful was created to damage Karen wasn't created created yet Karen you know that it's that's in the but Kar has and doesn't we have you can learn from and car you can learn everything out yes each one has a mil and a and this and that but there's a common denominator they go ahead in their masic it's they don't go but but the D is to be ma people fall animals fall Inus axes go ahead Bulls go ahead and damage human beings reg should also be okay so that's that okay if you use bar as the middle guy like in this chart over here I just went to the next one here go back bar and Karen just take the two on the on the right the middle one bar and K you can learn everything on the left which is reg you can learn from them Kulu that's Kulu Karen those six you could learn four the four on the left from the two or if you switch Kar to Shen you'll also be able to learn if you switch Shen to H you'll do H and bar you'll be able to come up with the same exact thing if you use bar in the middle K oh Karen is going to be a problem here it goes let's say I take Shen and bar so I can learn out the other guys but I cannot learn Karen Karen I won't be able to learn out why everybody remembers this what's the difference between Karen and everything else Karan has a big problem it starts out slow it's a tam and it's very different than everything else there's no Tam and mu when it comes to regel and Chen and everything else the only time is by Karen I'm not going to learn how Karen that's as simple as that they start out being okay we don't have to do this again this has this this has this great what's this okay forget it this is just Kulu I just wanted to throw it in there okay but according to the says what are you talking about he's saying Karen it starts out slow it's a no the M says that Karen is more powerful because it goes out in ma says Rashi I don't know where you have such a says the what do you mean yesterday we had it okay but obviously Rashi knew yesterday and Rashi holds that's not the so according to yes so we go back to this guy according to take off the X on the Karen you can learn from bar and Chen you can learn even Karen you learn Regal everything so if I all I need you hear what's going on here the Torah tells us four M he T says four but you just established that you don't need four from two as long as bar is in there which the T says bar bar and Shen then I can learn everything then why did her go out of its way and tell us all these things says the to teach so look at real quickly five lines from the bottom it says the last line in sometimes you have all this raid and all these back and forth and and then at the end you just end up in the same spot right so all these Dres back I could have learned from two so why do you why go gives you more for learning that what what are the the bottom line what are the here real quick Ken talk about because there is a difference between and talk about it says here it must be in somebody else's that if let's say an animal Falls in with a sack of of gold and silver you have to pay for the animal you don't pay for the gold and silver from the according to that says on so why does have to talk about it if a person falls into a pit you hear in the Mna says right said here's our so we're not talking about a why is the talking about fire if you hide your silver in a how do you say goddes um new there must be a better word than stat Silo no a pile of weight this better word we're going to get six emails now what does the what does the arle say fine lift so and you light that weed on fire and it burns everything it consumes whatever CLE inside you poter once again who says is causing trouble here twice already says that you are for whatever is hid inside so then what why the T talk about fire if the fire scorches the stones you have a a building built from your Shi stone or let say your field it scorched it and now it's hard to plow you have to do stuff to you're even though Rashi says it's a it's a it's weird it's not a typical hez never for other things you wouldn't be do weird fire is a special if it does weird like you are that's have a wonderful day thank you very much for coming Bo