Daf Yomi Bava Kama Daf 109 by R’ Eli Stefansky

[Music] good morning hi reelly I was so happy to hear re giving Hill kamansi a well-deserved shout out acknowledging his commitment to living in while working Us hours so later that day I saw rill who's walking making his way through the coffee he's by the coffee there he is so Hill told me I asked him did I exagerate he said no he did sleep two and a half hours that night and he still gets up early to come to SCH to DAV and to learn huh you saw him do the D on the plane all the while an integral part of his day while we miss Hill and Sabrina Los Angeles we are so proud of what they have accomplished till was an instrument was instrumental in getting me to join MD and I always feel a strong connection to the B Med seeing him there sitting to your left right over here please see the attached photo from your visit to Los Angeles one year ago my memory serves me correctly reell requested this photo with his the friends of Hill once you realize that a number of us knew him know him well he's a true example what makes him wise so special your so who's who I'm just here in the the picture which one is Sim the one on the one on the right the one on my left the one on the left side of the picture okay got it not you yeah this is sh Freedman sixth grade Yesa Tor getting a pair of cuings for finishing coughing not St cuings cuings oops finish withd you can't imagine the impact you having on these boys when they get a chance to finish a for the first time your cheing out beautiful unbelievable belly I'm Sorry Miss in person I'm in New York for I heard the shout out oh that's AR we're gonna skip that one de this is the picture no because I don't do advertising and I love him very dearly but we can't advertise a specific thing that he wants this is the picture that I showed you in Miami I was waiting till you get back to RBS to send you the picture because your is better when you are when you are in RBS I mean in B Park Kensington very very close to him he was older than me but he I used to stay by his house a lot for shab he learned with my father a lot thank you for giving an amazing Shear have missed a Shear since bras in parenthesis not asking to come on the cruise started over the for the first few that's definitely that's I think it's better if you started with straight out on shabas a to start it's a big no no no thing did so okay BR Li Toronto PS waiting for a see him in Toronto we had a see him in Toronto and now the is sponsored for the unity of the by the way tremendous ma to the one and only raal the barber he got married yesterday should have seen the people's face they were in shock okay you have to be in the reell teaching for the birth of Ruth sh schlaf in honor of the birth of our granddaughter tahel Ora mazov where are the schlaf today not here today yeah I know I just Dr the part Ari Rosenstein life Shar community I don't do this and I'm doing it for him because what what yeah no okay you're right art of the month n to the child his daughter okay I'll read it I Ros live share Community Based Financial relief pledge before tragedy strikes it's time to end your window okay fine B doesn't mean I speak about something doesn't mean that I advertise it Anonymous for the for an easy child if I if I advertise that then I have to the 100 other things that people ask I can't I don't we don't advertise the month easy child birth for his daughter and a healthy baby r we're starting a brand new mishna and the first part of it we just learned a guy gives his car his bull to somebody to watch and he goes and he demands it back my so there's two options that he could do either he could lie and say that it was stolen or he can lie and say it was lost and there's a difference if he says the says I don't know what you're talking about or I do know what you're talking about but it got lost I want you to make a and he says as we said you don't really have to say you can say other I agree whatever in and say and pay attention to this word it says here he consumed it completely it's gone the testified that he consumed it he had a barbecue he he devoured that animal M all he pays is one thing K why not why notes anybody cuz he was a in order to pay you have to admit he didn't admit the ad came and for him into the situation but he didn't steal it we're not talking he's it's a so let's let's understand this okay so no no questions if if a person doesn't steal something it ends up in his possession because he's a Sher he's watching it so some the owner actually put it in his house and then he claims that it was stolen he didn't steal it he claims it was stolen that way that's what the Miss is going to be talking about in a second and in that case you pay but that's AES he didn't steal it he claimed it was stolen he stole it he took it but that's not stealing it's a different it's a different GA over here it's one step less than that he was put it in his possession and he took it he ate it that's not considered yes it's stealing but it's not it's not where you pay C we said the between a GH and a gin he goes goes at night goes in the day over neither the guy put it in his in his in his backyard he it on his own now we have the because he admitted and he pays same story different excuse where's my it was stolen and the person says okay so I want you to make a and he says and then we have witnesses that testify that he stole it in this case he has to pay double he pays the principal A fifth or 25% and a carbon if you want to go like like time you see enough between somebody says it was stolen and somebody says it's lost perhaps somebody says that it was stolen he absolves himself of all responsibility says hey I did what I needed to do somebody crawled through the window in middle of the night and stole it I'm a big a guy that says that he's that got lost he's saying in a way that he's a like he didn't take care of it so well so oh that case you're already taking a little bit of responsibility bushes bushes you could uh you don't have to pay K maybe but points out a very interesting thing here that is that when a person says aad it was it was lost and he consumed it even if he consumed it he's poed from C but when a person says n even if it's B it's still here 100% whole here's the animal but he claimed that it was stolen he has to pay C so it's you're you're not here for a year right first time yeah you want to mess with me right second time oh all right is he really W okay says now we have a brand new topic brand new and this brings us into very very interesting today a person steals from his father no I want to be who steals from the father nobody like goes into their father's house and steals the middle the night his father was getting a little older he was put in charge of the bank accounts and slowly you know anyways I'm going to be y it so let me take a little bit and then the father says wait a minut father wakes up he's 98 years old but he knows what's flying you know those guys they go to the bank every day twice a day he sees what's going on there it starting to the book you remember the book they used to come with the book and check and take out two dollars every time put in three this the whole yeah and he says I I swear what are you talking about and then the father dies and then he admits afterwards after his father died he admits his wrongdoing not his father's face of course he admits his brothers not to be confused it just means the sons and the brothers of the father in other words this person's brothers are bonov not the bnov of the ghav the bnov of the father meaning is he has to pay his brothers very interesting here if you want to be to a father who's no longer alive you give everything even your sheer even your sheer you give to the brothers because part of what he stole actually belongs to him Hally theoretically Yus yusha wise he he's let's say he has two other brothers so a third of what he stole should be his own no says the mishna he give everything even his third he gives to the brothers what if he doesn't have enough or he doesn't feel like losing his Shear say what's the a guy he wants to pay his brothers in full even his Shear but he wants to retain his Shear so what does he do I need a good a no oh borrow money and what who's borrowing who's who's paying how where oh so the mission is going to say so something like this I last night after Shear so Yoshi did this after the Hebrew shear but I was busy with mishak magazine until like 2 in the morning so I couldn't like give him har so it's not 100% but the idea is here see I have a g of and a father son and a father and the father has the son steals $150,000 from his father and then the father goes bye-bye so the is he takes $150,000 and he gives it to his brothers so really the house should be pushed over now to his brothers okay fine now what does he do he wants to retain his own share of $50,000 he wants the brothers to have $50,000 each not $75,000 each wants divide it equally third a third a third 50 5050 so what does he do he he takes a a loan before this house is pushed over it's not good okay before the house is pushed over to the brothers he takes a loan of $50,000 and the $50,000 is secured by the house then he takes the house and he gives it to his brothers so the so the guy that lent him the money he wants he wants to be repaid so he goes to the brothers and he takes the $50,000 out of the house so what happens is the ghav here let's just see what happens the Mala gives him $50,000 and he gets repaid by the brothers so the G of gets $50,000 in his packet gets to keep and he gets repaid from the house that the ghav gave his brothers so at the end of the day what happens the gav gets $50,000 otherwise if he wants to be he just gives everything to the brothers and and we're going to go back to this this also I know people that this happened to them one of my friends did something bad I don't remember what he did he really he made his father really upset he got into an accident I think like he destroyed his father's car without his father said I'm taking you out of theha you call up the lawyer I'm taking you out of the people do that they get upset said you're not going to have any yusha for me you're you're it's a like a for me you're not having if that father dies in you can't undo but what he could do is the father said that the son should not benefit from him after his own death at the end of the day the does go to the son but he shouldn't benefit from it he should take it because he did inherit itally they should give it to his brothers or to his uncles of his his uncles huh it did which one I said I said those are the first words I said we'll go back to the video now if he doesn't have what to eat slightly different from before rash says P doesn't have what to eat and his and his father said you can't benefit from theusa and here's a nice chunk of cash he could borrow money against it and and the the the lender comes and takes from the yusha yes he's benefiting but in a roundabout way it's a little bit indirectly and because he has nothing to eat we we allow this [Music] says what's a case of a person he wakes up and he has no relatives after the after the concentration camps the guy comes back he comes to America garnish nothing not a father not a not an uncle not a cousin not nobody and he remembers he stole money from his father what does he do says the m what does he do he gives it Thea he should give Thea I don't know if this is you guys from England can tell me that it just remind me that reminded me that there was a in the newspaper it said that some some from guy won 32 million pounds and he decided that he wants to give almost 30 of it to so people started like looking into his name and this based on the name address they they start flying England and they had to tell them no that was just a perm stick it was no never heard this SM 15 years ago I says here's the interesting thing he's not by just giving making a whole the this organization is going to honor him this big ve is giving back to the oranization $2 million no you have to say the $2 million this is what I stole from my father now you're not going to get any covered off of it and pretend that you're big you have to have to announce it say what if it happens a let's say damages Yesa breaks a door a window smashes something you know it happens iniva vandalism I don't know what so saysa that you give it back to Thea but you're not allowed to take credit for it you can't say oh you take a page out in the in the ad book and the you do it under still a you give a check that nobody knows Anonymous a real Anonymous and you move on he talks about more like duckus like somebody steals from a pushka this kind of idea that you know when you want to give back give back quietly don't try to take credit for for your G tax reip tax receip going back to that going back to that I was 100% wrong I got I got a number of messages it's interesting from two Anonymous the two an the real Anonymous of the shear both of them sent me one of them sent me during sh one of them a little later just the IRS it's funny I laughed when I saw it but basically if you steal you have to um what is it called declare it you have to declare it to the IRS IRS I stole a million dollars here's your share of the taxes I mean it doesn't make any sense who in the right mind would do that I mean you're risking whatever told and the Israelis were right also I mean there is I I don't have experience with it so you can't blame me but they're right they right huh what like he already stole so stole from individuals he's not going to steal from the government no he steals from individuals from the government he doesn't steal he gives there this year like it doesn't the whole thing doesn't make [Music] sense huh okay Ah that's what you're saying it's a law to get him again they get him again another time not only the also on the on the tax evasion I hear [Music] can he says you could steal in the son's name you do to like a triple trick a stick that guy okay F yeah double stick says the gar says ask the gamar what's that you give all theha to your brothers why should you give it to your brothers he's one of the inheritors let him forgive himself in other words it's already he already inherited it's his why does he have to give it to his brothers we just [Music] learned here let me just show you the Miss real quickly it says the whole thing that what if the owner tells the ghav I'm you on the principal but I'm not on the 25% I'm on both so in that case even if he left over a half a prud he doesn't have to go all the way to mod remember so the one that was robbed has the ability to be but the is it's a very very strong point what happened to the okay but the guy was the answer is he got rid of the mitah once he's there is no mitah okay so here also the inheritor he inherited a million dollars the $50,000 he inheres from from his father in in this case of the house it's his and now he doesn't have to give it back because there is no more Mitzvah it's his already the father was like how by giving it to him it's his gift you're right you see you could be argues and you can't you can't be let's see if we're going to see in a second this is talking about gor is going to explain in a second but if you don't know who to give back this G so you give it to theen the gets it and you bring a Caron the principle is not a if you can't pay back the principle so you give it to the what's the case he can't pay back a principal is there a human being that doesn't have relatives even if he doesn't have cousins so you go up a generation you go up five generations we go all the way up to somewhere you're going to have a cousin a relative we're talking about somebody that's a convert became a g and he has zero relatives and if a person stole from a g and he swore to him that he didn't steal from him and he heard that the this is one of the most interesting stories in ch he stole from a g and he heard that the died and he's going up going up to with doing chva giving back the money to the G how by giving it to the and bringing a carbon wow I can't believe it I saw the ad I saw the you had a l what are you doing why are you alive how did I bump into you unbelievable more unbelievable the yeah more unbelievable than that is that the gar tells him I'm telling you the story goes on it has thing gar says don't worry about it you don't have to pay me now pay me later you're NE take it take it for now it's a it's aone of a the story gets even more interesting and he dies so I'm sitting here in B medish and I'm thinking to myself what what's the case what how how did this happen like you're going toim the guy you thought he's dead but he's not dead and as soon as he tells you that you could have the money he dies like what exactly happened I had this idea I I I sent it to Yoshi and it came out G fine I think I think you'll appreciate it here we go they're on a plane here let me put on some volume they're on a plane now you have to notice the eyes I'll go back to the second just the eye motions of what he did here is unbelievable I met you I want to return what I stole from you one second first I want to drink you order service with this red [Music] [Applause] button some and the guy behind him says what happened to my meal anyway that's how I what should I tell you my mind went to a different place over here how's it possible hold on a sec look at the guy's eyes here you ready the guy on the left look at his eyes now look at the Arab in the back he look down everything's M I like okay that that's what the meant no yeah of course it's much better for the story it also doesn't say he gave it to Bala he gave him Bala anyway and also by the way most airplanes don't have that red button I'm just saying if you have like maybe this is a parachute now from from now on every time I hear you know these these people these kids ding dong dingdong the flight I'm thinking to myself oh some we just lost another one we just lost another one okay I told him I said listen to me me makes sense that he was going to the bathroom but he thought that the exit door was the bathroom so he didn't like that he wanted this but okay fine but now the the M makes a lot of sense now again the guy steals from a gar he hears the G died and then he goes he brings it he brings it up toim he bumps into the G some people say like but my wife would ask but the story never had impossible you're right impossible but it's a what if situation right the guys a nice guy said yeah you stole from me ah I feel you know what you're such a you're trying to give back to me let me help you out I know you you fell in rough times that's what you stole from me take it as a load now here's the very very interesting thing because when a a g dies all his belongings become heare so whoever's holding on to that belonging becomes his so therefore this bad guy that stole his money met him on the plane he gets to acquire that entire money doesn't like this no if you want to be he must get rid of it right away he he can't keep it says tremend that a person can be himself the ghav who has nobody to ask M from because the G that he stole from is dead so he's M himself so to speak like he doesn't have to give it to anybody it's in his possession so in other words we have the mishna that says that a person could beov and we have our mishna that you not be you have to give can't even you can't be yourself you have to give it to your brothers so the says we have according to you could be yourself this m goes according to you can't be anybody not even forget yourself for yourself of course you can't be can't be aov somebody came over you and stole from you says is of the opinion he's so strong forget that the G gave it him as a gift now as a loan why does it say the story that he gave the G alone this is phenomenal that even though it's alone it's not Ave anymore he he flipped it from alone the ghav has no way added this he he cannot hold on to it even though it's alone now why because it started off as AA start off as you have to do cha Mas this is just my uh thing don't don't worry about it yes this is a simple case where a guy ask somebody from he has the right to be says says the that's the our says I want to be myself I'm a I'm being myself I'm forgiving myself I don't have to return to G what what's a bigger they could be yourself that person can be himself and then of course the a random person and the reverse is also should talk about only and say that even a a owner somebody who's robbed cannot look at a robber in his face and say that robber must return it that's a huge and then from then I'll know certainly that our mishna the case on the left if a a person cannot be's friend so certainly can't be himself what a person be what now makes sense our you cannot be why because he's trying to be for himself you can't be yourself but it makes a lot of sense the robber so how come if somebody stole from a how come he cannot be how come he can himself because when it came to the G he received it as a gift so to speak from the from the G the G said I'm flipping it from AA it's no longer G now I'm turning into alone oh so that I could keep let's do the opposite both of them only said you can't forgive yourself and that how come we had the case of zaka zva doesn't work says R if I flip your g into a loan no good why no good because he started as a ghav show me that you that you're regretting that you're taking that you're doing chva they giving you back you have to give it back you can't say oh but he gave it to me as alone too bad sponsored by Greg Haber no oh we need a new sponsor that's why it's not here okay mik sponsored by Greg Haber one last time of what oh that we should all have should come back home and the hostages and all comes out that holds you be both cases as very simple remember that the says over here if you can't give it back to anybody because he doesn't have a relative give it to what do you mean what's the case I stole from a g okay so I gave it to myself G died I give it to myself why I have to give it here's a case rabai very simple case here's a [Music] g did you steal my guitar me of course not I swear then the G dies so because he's holding on to the guitar it's you see it's on his back over there so he's co it because he has it and then he's yeah it was me so in this case at the time that this person admitted that he stole gives it over to the and we're gonna see soon which Co do you give it to this guitar who do you give it to they give it to Don fine I give it to rabie Schomberg who here here's a question for you rabie sherg and Dan fine who else is here I Sawan here's in the house who else sitting with your grand son he's a huge kishan huge he sent you a picture at 2 in the 2 in the morning he said he had a nce that his wife was sick and she wouldn't know that he's he doesn't do this all the time yeah he made me cry actually fine we'll talk about it different time so no he's he's a big Bish he's a talent so says the gamar that what was they saying oh question rabie schonberg if somebody steals from a how does he do tra the answer is he gives it to says the gives it to which we just going to see soon it's only the that that there's no what we do it's you hear because it says in the is here is it's not highlighted they took it out by mistake is maybe in this case it has to be a man going to say no that what that if somebody swore to what's the case again what's the case a guy goes collecting around for the you know oh it reminds me of another Mya the guy the guy looks around and he says say why are this guy so successful I I I'm terrible I go collecting I never make any money so he follows the guy and he hears the guy says I'm I'm the I'm the grandchild of the this and that fight another guy saysa the other guy says I'm a G get he says you know what these guys almost I'm going to put it all together says I'm the grandchild I'm a and again he didn't get money okay fine so he's this this is what happened the guy goes around collecting money for Gus and he takes all the money for himself he gives her 2% takes 98% for himself aov and then he swears to her no I didn't I didn't make any money I had no money Mesa she died and then he admits to it right so the same thing like what happened to the G but it's it's a woman maybe the is just speaking the language is how people say they use the the interesting only twice in so of course I we did a a search for ra does it say anywhere in ra and we found it says whatever no no there is no how do you know when you have you give it to man know woman so here's the it basically it says the word and it says it says it twice so know I give back to a woman so why does say is not referring to a male but rather to an adult an adult you have to see who are his relatives in love a youngster doesn't have he can't have children so you know that if this guy this kid is a g he's the son of a g a father and a son became Garing together and his father died he's by himself he's on his own you don't have to worry about go has no children what I don't know Brothers but he's he no no no no not no brothers because they became G afterward he was a guy he was a 9-year-old guy and then this father let's become G so there's no brother uh just I said this m probably three days ago I'll say it over again uh a couple comes to to court to to bezin not the court bz they want to get divorced how old are you 103 and 102 what happened says what happened we've been fighting for 80 years we died to do this for 80 years so why today says our kids finally died off we're by our now it's not funny as they died the kids died we don't laugh it's funny you say because I know what you're thinking because people say you have to wait until they get married off and they died off I hear yeah that's why yeah you get it okay this guy has no relatives so it says in the you give it to the you see possible so the says you give it to that mishar meaning you divide all the you have a million you divide them into 24 mishmar okay was that 24,000 whatever it is no yeah whatever 24 M divided by a million is how much why does it have to be a in that mishar so again every week the way it work this every week they divide all the into 24 groups a mishmar and that mishmar takes over the week and every day of the week is a different family within that mishmar but over here we're going to give it we're going to divide this money from the G let's say he left a million dollars we give it to the 25,000 Goan that are in that mishar maybe just give it to Don so let's see this again check this out the end of the says in addition to the person has to bring a carbon and also the money to who it should all go to the the money in addition to the carbon so in other words the person that bringing the carbon that mishar is in charge of the of that day fine this is super super interesting what happens if the GH of himself is aen and then what you're supposed if you you bring it to the and you give it to the he is the so should he bring it to himself same question as we had before it's anyway going to the family of and look take a look I'm holding on to this I'm already in possession the whole thing Should Be Me Mine if he gets these he gets a piece of it so they already discussed yes if comes to with a million dollars you divide the million dollars by 25,000 people it's not very much over here you want to say you should get the entire thing because he's holding on to it that's already a jump in you can't do that okay same idea so let me just say outside if a Cen brings a carbon is not his mishar right brings brings so the the skin the meat whatever you eat from goes to the of that mishmar the of that mishar but what if aen rabber comes into Dan's mishmar he's stop wants to bring a carbon but it's not his mishmar danine doesn't touch his carbon because RAB sh is a himself so R sh gets the entire carbon for himself what if says hey Dan you know what take care of this go take it you're going anyways Tod take my carbon then Dan gets it not R so it has to come into your possession to that another cannot come and take it away from him this this thing that you stole from a g he's holding on to it sorry once it's in his possession this certainly nobody should be able to grab it so says the not a good logic that's different something that he has no connection to if theen gives his carbon to another Cen so nobody else has a in it but over here when it comes to the every in the world has a little piece of it so why in the world do you think that you're intitled to 100% of it every Co has a piece of it so says you're right since every coin has a piece of it let's divide it by all the you're right you take it and you give it to all the what about he himself he's also kind does he get a piece he just brought it to the said maybe you should get 100% of it says no but everybody has a little piece of it so let's give it to everybody what about he himself yes or no anybody it's a yes or no question the what wow that's nobody says that one he's saying should borrow and take here if he gets or not if he gets to keep his peace F says that every C that brings a carbon who gets to who gets the carbon thaten so now don't forget this guy he's bringing aam together with what he stole from the G he's bringing the million dollars plus a carbon who gets the carbon he himself the Cen that that brings the carbon the carbon he gets it so therefore he should be entitled to everything why because so it should go together the and all the money say no this happens to be he doesn't get the carbon if he wasn't Tom would get the carbon maybe he get the money but since he's he doesn't get carbon it says that he has a piece of it he says Rashi he doesn't even have the hide even though a that's usually Tom does get a piece of the Hide not in this case we punish him he doesn't get anything so yeah yeah okay fine but it's consider he doesn't he doesn't get the hide doesn't have hide here's it says the word in in our but also says what's thee more and more a person gets a field from yes he goes and he decides to be he donates it to what's BD going to do with it they're going to sell it try to make some profit the is that after they sell it to let's say some is when y comes that field becomes the but here's the kicker which get it those that are on the mishar that day so and you have to wait another 50 years maybe your Mish will come up you have one and 24 Chance every 50 years don't don't count on iter what if a c buys the field off the B MD so that's the same SP that we're talking about now the same logic that what one of the went to the to the G says I want to buy that field it's perfect it's right next to mine comes that field goes to all the that mishar we divided in 25,000 wherever many in that mishmar but he says listen I already farmed this field for the last 10 years let me just keep it same s like here by the G I'm already holding on to the the should be all mine if somebody else comes with a field I get a piece of it 12 one of 25,000 so over here certainly I'm already holding on to it it should be completely mine we said before it's okay no the has no business taking taking this field okay what do we do therefore when it comes to even though this coin is the one that bought from the B 10 years ago and he's been farming it and it's his it looks like his he must give it up and give it to the all the so too even though it's in his possession he's the one bringing to must give it up and give it to all the have a wonderful day I was just thinking that based on this I'm thinking now he gets a piece of this s he's not a bad guy he gets a piece of the so maybe also he should get a piece of the it's the same 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