Daf Yomi Bava Basra Daf 159 by R’ Eli Stefansky

[Music] good morning [Music] R welcome to all the guests shalom what's your name tadic Mor morik Shalom from West H West hamon who else do we have here any other guests we want to thank Shin horn the spread the spread the other day he came over to me he said we have to expand the B Med there's too many people I want to take on the project I want to go with it I said no I appreciate it but I I'm not so interested right now the dust no you guys want to do it great but we could build in another place then we'll move in I just had enough of construction in my in my lifetime maybe one day but he's the type of guy he takes the and he goes with it he's he he bought breakfast the other day there are people that are doers and givers horn thank you Bell it's not only me it's all my neighbors I didn't know you know nobody told me I said I walked in there I decide it's you CU that's the type of guy you are who who are your neighbors let's see who else over here who very nice thank you thank you whatever your names are cat oh who else name pointing people nothing to M Melle that's right Melle it's Melle the guy that comes early coffee in the morning I'm just terrible wow wow okay I want to share with you this morning there was a siren and in middle middle of daving right here in the B let me show you what it looks like it's not it's not POS the mbas there we don't have umad so the had to go into the neighbor the building next door into the steer well but let me just show you what it looks like real quickly here we go [Music] guys slowly slowly [Music] please what's that noise you hear the [Music] sirens right you know how we have a [Music] saying so as I was walking I'm not I I I coined another phrase It's better to die like a mench that's what's going on here they mention they're walking out slowly but at least you were a mench when you died person that jumps on top of other guy that knocks people to get onto a bus that's a be a but look I'm very it took it took over a minute it takes less than a minute for the missiles to come in from Yemen and hit but look it took over a minute minute and a half they walked out I know I know we ready we have another door that's your project okay this is what it looks like when the is in the Mad in the steer wheell gal [Music] I heard a beautiful V on the says knew he knew how to hunt and yob sat and learned the question is why doesn't it say yob knew as knew had a hunt and yob knows T so ra says beautiful that if somebody says I I do do I do carpentry that's not enough you have to know carpentry you have to you you have to know how to hunt when it comes to you don't have to know how to learn you don't have to know learning you have to learn you have to sit in the B me and learn you have to come every day and do the D that's all you need to do what that's what he's going to say you're T since 8 Minute BR full since checking out rebi in can't wait for the shabbaton listen to this this is a line can't wait for the shabbaton my best shabas in my life so far I'm still using the energy from last year I think for me also probably my best as well I don't say it in front of my wife but it probably is this that on the left made a a big part of MD for many years is on the right so I I mentioned the thing with so there's a guy said over his story that he uh he made his first scene with us but I haven't seen he lives in I don't know where he is exactly lives now lives and tells saying this amazing story I wasn't able to come to as I did the with home is the one who inadvertently recruited me to the as The Story Goes we're in the middle of Corona invited me to see listen to this no you're gonna like this which he watched on my iMac via Zoom I was so amazed that people from all over the world if I remember correctly from around 500 locations remember we had 500 locations Zoom we were here with 500 locations it was crazy we said we'll never going to be able to out do this and he was very inspired by seeing so many people from so many different places and we had like different shs and different this really inspired me 12 days later and I joined the D and within a week I caught up to everyone fast forward my dear friend got very sick and join at home somehow connected with me as we on the same WhatsApp group call call me for and ask me if going to the the night of the calls me and ask me if he could drop by to give me something for the I said sure why not he brought me a gift that's one of my prize possessions an egg that we gave out at the SE egg with the words still intact sitting my break front see photos attached I forgot to put the photo I'll try to give it to whoever's editing probably today yeah because y did last night my dear friend no passed away shortly after the se but I hope to continue on from where he left off the until thetion the of the day sponsor for the sa and speed return of all the hostages last day last and slow in my UNC and I thank you to re for selflessly giving up her husband for the clout for filled with from his grateful family the of our brother-in-law roads for the for the art forell the whole to make so enjoyable for so many question don't cheat try to think of the answer right away and if you were here last night don't answer does a inherit his double portion if he is no longer alive does do his Yim get a double portion we learned it in the about 25 30 times everybody's looking at me I'll give you I'll give you a hint yes oh yes the answer is yes okay that's one so I'm not the only one that forgot it okay great um what else did I want to ask you don't remember okay we'll go right there we are holding four lines from the bottom of the way the Su works is we're going to say two lines that make no sense and thear finishes off those two lines this is a very very very difficult line to understand and in fact the line that we throw out in the beginning makes no sense at all the tosses out immed then thear goes in to figure out what is so difficult we come up with different theories that maybe thear meant this but that's not so hard to understand it's easy to understand so it must be something more difficult to understand we finally come back to the original that we wanted to say but doing so we're going to go through some interesting suas s so again I'm saying right out this doesn't make any sense a son borrowed from with from the belongings of his father when his father was alive and then the father died so he inherits it the Father the Father which one ah ah okay start with let's finish the says in the mishna that there's there's no between in a case where the house falls on a person and his mother everybody admits everybody admits that there's a you divide equally on that R says no I don't admit I say this a it goes to whoever is a and says re I don't understand there's always finally we get to a point where admit to to each other they they could come to something they agree to something and you're going to create another here from here you see we know benaz was a tal that we know but from here son-in-law from here we see that bazai actually grew to be a friend of why he said you came instead of saying the re came M like the story that's where you have to put in the story the re is a tip you have to say the word RAB yeah like that story so says the wordu should have saidu so you see that he's actually he was a but he's a says who died you says by you the the son yeah it says that I don't think so says yeah says says after father that's what it says that's how he explain okay fine the Father the father but okay grandson okay the grandson takes out from the buyers but we're not even talking about a buyer we're talking about a loan what is going on here so we have to remember these words this is a very difficult concept when it comes to the the rules and the of M so says first of all if you borrowed your son you borrowed what are you taking out you already took the money out so what else are you taking you have to give back maybe what why are we discussing the purchaser there's no purchase here there's a loan so attempt number one is okay okay so it's not alone let's let's change it a little bit so here's a a chart there's a father there's a son and a grandson check it out the guy in the middle takes a look at his father and he says listen I'm about to inherit this guy he's he's 119 and a half years old Max he could live another half a year let me do some business so he goes and he takes his father's property which he's entitled to maybe in a half a year and he sells it he grabs it away from his father and he sells it the only thing is that you know human beings nobody thinks they're going to die the other guy is going to die dying happens in other families not in his happens to be that he died he's in a car accident then he died first now what so it says b yob son Ru the grandson okay so now these words are making sense it wasn't alone a s and ruen take a look after dies ruen goes ahead and grabs the property this is very difficult to understand why the guy yob to should say I don't understand your father sold us something and you're going to go undo what your father did why is that why is that so hard to understand so they're saying you're right the grandfather died but yob your father sold it to us so whether he had the right to sell it to us or not maybe at the time that he sold it he didn't have the right but now he does have the right and before it comes to you ruen it must go from to Jakob to ruven how does ruen inherit a land how does he inherit from his grandfather it goes through his father yob oh goes through his father yob so stop yob sold it to the so give it to why you taking it from so Ruben says no you don't understand how it works and this is actually what we're dealing with now today how does it work RAB say you ever thought about it when a grandson inherits his grandfather does he go directly to the grandfather and get the the an does he circumvent his father or no perhaps this piece of propy actually went in the Cav for a minute it went to the father who's dead and then continued on to the sun if that's the case we could hear why the purchaser has a good claim over here he says oh once it stopped it made a a stop in haras yeah the guy gave $10 million from Grandfather to grandson $1 million went toas theoretically Hally stops by the Cav for a moment and then on to the sun oh once it stops at the at the Cav now take care of business you owe it to somebody else so it it it diverts from instead of going to Ruben he'll go to to yob say no what to right to to the buyer to whoever it is but it says the maybe it never goes through yob it doesn't stop at a basic fars the grandson is close enough to his grandfather that could go directly from Grandfather to grandson Anda he goes to the and says give me my property that my father had no right to sell you he sold it while it was still my grandfather's and he died before my grandfather and now that my grandfather died with property he goes to me and never even looked at my father for a second enough okay yeah yes he'll give back the money he'll give back the money he'll give back the money he'll give back the money but I want the property I I want this piece of real estate who does the grandson grandson I know I'm saying what what's he doesn't know he didn't know no the side is I know I know we struggled with it a little bit because at the end of the day there was a m here and it look it stopped at the time of the M right I hear I hear it's a good C didn't know right that's what it is he didn't know of course he didn't know yeah but he he bought something that's he coming know but I don't know St this it's probably not going to work butaa the the father has a a pile of money that the gave and he owned it for a millisecond the father and at that millisecond he should give it over to them it should be then when he gets it so says the let's keep let's go oh so we're going to struggle we're going to talk about this POS at the end of the day we're going to say maybe it doesn't work maybe it doesn't circumvent maybe it does this p is talking about a grandfather a a son and a grandchild and says instead of your father you'll have your your son in other words we're circumventing the middleman yov in this case we're going from that's what the says Sons should put them as as rulers in the land so you see that there such a concept that you could circumvent the the middleman yob the father at the end of the day so then what's then what's the problem why are you saying why are you saying the fact that the grandchild gets the land now is that such a hard thing to understand it never landed by what maybe look around does it say anything in your uh yeah CU we we were struggling last night also about the money no I said it's the money yeah says okay fine oh yeah that's that's M it's typical I learned this T and I know the he talks about but when you ask it in different words it's like didn't the learning part and the Practical part didn't okay we have another another case this is M like a kiss from we're talking about selling the here it is selling the selling [Music] the can a son sell his bonus part of B before he actually gets it so a couple things I got to tell you real quickly so yesterday uh a few a few meni was telling us three we're standing not you no Andi say over the said what that loved just because kid knows how a hunt so that's why you love him that's that's a reason to if he knew he knows look this kid he's a tremendous I love this kid he's a great hunter one of the he loves somebody because of their so he said theat is who says it they it's they say it says in says in that said the famous he said your son s so said get rid of them he went toob same thing he went to told it's my sons it's your sons and they made a whole deal he said they they sleep a lot they eat a lot half most of the day is doing other things what do you want from them he says what's that only is is telling you gave me an as I have as I had to deal with with something like how to deal with and he had he had the the ability to to talk to to to he had something to say to had a back I dealt with this so you deal with this as well right something like that that was the so I started saying and ABI also we're both he said no I think you missed a little bit of the the punch line maybe you could have said it different that y was saying every time when you have a kid that's off the d off the whatever you want to call it today off the so it's very difficult to find something positive about the kid talking to myself cuz it's difficult what are you going to say he's great at the doing drugs what are you gonna say like oh he's a great how how you introduce your son so what you're supposed to do is you introduce him you say ah look at this guy he has a great shot when we we go to the thing he's a great shooter he's a great hunter this is my son the I believe I have such a know from him so I said this over last night so says and he sent it to me says this thing that he's supposed to say m like that he says you're supposed to you find and with that you connect to your son and then he sent me a G he tells this woman he says what does your son like says he likes Saker so go to the socer game with him she I hate sacker he says I know you hate scker but you love your son so sit there and say what there's 100 million people watch this game unbelievable and he starts going in this the the World Cup wow really there that get into Ito couldn't do that okay this doesn't answer all the cashs anyway so I just want to tell you one once we're talking about that so I try to pull off I told I told Ai and no also the same thing I try to pull off a stick with my brother-in-law he's in my house the Su I said you want to hear it's now anybody that's from the sheer NOS when I start saying not depends how I said why what's the that the twins that that yob and as were twins what the is that ASA can't come and say look if I grew up in another family I would have came out different no no no you had the same oh but if my older brother is different he has he had the brains he's more M he's this that so that's why no no no no no you're twin you're twin your m is the same same parents same everything and it's all about it's what you choose to do in life he chose to go this way are you going to say so he says you say it can't be it's a morale impossible it's against everything we learned ASA wanted to come out you know by the Z yov didn't he wanted to jump out what you're saying is not true show me that says the morale you got me I I just made it up so then I told him this thing what happened that he got me I was just saying you know my brother-in-law is smart he got me he says no no no Rabbi peasant just said at the kdes in the name of the RV there was the because I went to him afterwards and he told me it's the rvah you said it's the NV and then oh listen to this so I went back to my brother-in-law I said because you said I said no it's not the he said it's not the so then I go to to R and he goes it's not the and he goes yes what's the r anyway from flap from manich let's see put them on yesterday we had a nice from wow very nice sh are you all doing the shear there or you just came for other things and it happens to be what time is it at night is it 12:30 in the morning wow I see and I even showed a picture of did a good job over there whoever did it with you go so let's just show I just want to show this real quickly see I have a the middle guy yob is AAR and he decides to sell his extra portion to and then what happens is he goes bye-bye so in the lifetime of his father but he died when his father after afterward his grandfather dies ruin goes and grabs it away from the purchaser why his father sells it and you take it out what's the difference oh the explains the difference between the two cases why now we can't say what we said before maybe Ruben will say listen I'm just circumventing yob at all I'm just going directly to the source and I'm taking the double portion from The Source from that can't be why cuz double portion only comes because of yob so must go through to he can't go directly to if he goes directly to there is no there's no portion of it's only there because it's named heing no no no the way it works is I go directly to the source to but I am I'm instead of I'm not coming because of him I'm I'm I fit his shoes but I'm going directly to the source to grab it oh so we have to go to another Case by the way we're going to go to the case before that the original case that's where we're going to end up but right now we're trying other things actually great case we have a simple chart here a guy knows of some sort of testimony here step one and then he decided to become a ghav try a new career become a ghav somebody who steals say somebody who steals a little bit if he doesn't do chuva the says on him you're Russ a Russ who steals is pus unbelievable he became a Goin so now he cannot he cannot testify anymore who you can't bring this mrov with the from jail that he should testify in his own signature he's we don't trust him but other people could say yeah that was a signature and he testified yes before he became aov he signed a document you know what the problem with that is how do you know when the document was signed it says in the document signed in a certain time but he's a ghav so maybe he signed it today in the morning after he was a ghav he could do all sorts of things you're you're concerned that he's going to lie so he lied so he wrote a new document saying that plenty owes so many money and you're going to testify let's see inside a famous story a woman comes home after y Kipper she sees a piece of chicken is missing from the pot from the from the tray she looks at her husband she says Yanko you ate AER a piece of a piece of meat he says you you think I ate a piece of meat I'm keep are you crazy here give me a coffee with milk and I'll drink it right [Laughter] now if I'm fex how how am I going to drink coffee with the milk I'm saying you ateipper you ateer I'm telling you so you're going to prove that what you didn't eat on Kipper how because I'm drinking now coffee so this guy is not a he wasn't a g of yesterday he's a g of today we can't even trust him on his own signature but maybe he made a whole new document with a signature and then he tell somebody else isn't this my signature yeah doesn't work let me just see what happened he's not allowed to be made on his signature other people could testify in a signature oh so it goes like this sorry let me jump here there's something called a hemp here let's even see huh hemp you guys remember what a hemp is hemp is a document that says we testify that this original document this what I don't they're already making fun I don't have one and don't get me as a gift please you know what that's that that can be you want to get me a stamp for this that'll be great I'll take a $10 St I don't want any gifts you want to work like that every D and going six months worth of work little stamp's say was there's actually somebody bought a stamp I'll prove to you that you're wrong here somebody bought a stamp for this it says mdy baransky because none of our stamped so both I said no we're not using it what's the big deal says I wanted the people to know later on somebody's going to come in and say it's not his it's I want to say it's yours because it says in the the safer is mine okay fine no we're not using it I don't like that stamp where's that stamp anyway so what's going on here they're not testifying on the star that it's the GH of signature they're testifying on another document that says that the original document that the god of signed on was a good document back in the day it's called The Hemp it's a special document that comes out of that says that the original is good okay so what's so then what is the problem that we said is a big problem here a person knew about a certain testimony and it happens to be that later on it fell to his possession how did it work here we go yeah same thing there was let's say there's a distant relative he's going to testify about a distant relative his grandfather's brother I don't know what he had no hav that he's one day going to inherit from this guy why would he think that it's too far away and then all of a sudden he gets notified that guy doesn't have a kid you're the next inid next in line so he's not allowed to testify about his own signature he's now he's biased so other people come ahead and they testify sorry so what's the problem what's the big deal maybe they're not even testifying about his testifying about aemp let's try it again we had this case also a few things in this very familiar we learned a person witnessed something he test he he writes down that he he witnessed It Whatever talks about it the guy that that it happened to the St that happened to likes this individual he says wow this is great for my daughter they make a and he marries his daughter now he became his relative now that he's his relative he cannot testify about what he saw other people could testify on his signature oh so this is very different if you think about it logically speaking the son-in-law cannot testify for the father-in-law but could somebody testify that the son- of law actually signed this before he became a son- of law it's different than a ghav a guy that became a ghav you can't you cannot testify that that was a signature because perhaps today he made a signature a son-in-law is not going to go and make a false document for his father-in-law he's bias he's not that's what the gor is going to say it's a little different it's a question so let's see how somebody else going to be believed if he's not believed maybe he's going to redo the document in favor of his father-in-law you're G to say that we're talking about a case of a even in a case with there's no you hear this the said you're not allow to testify for your father-in-law whether you're the nicest guy in the world the most believable guy in the world you're not allowed to testify for your for your father-in-law so we're not concerned that you're going to go ahead and make a new document you're just not allowed to testify but if somebody else testifies that that's your signature on a document that you signed for your father-in-law before he became your father-in-law there's nothing to to be worried about what you what are you worried about that you're going to now read do be a g of and nobody's son a normal person is not going to make a false document for his father-in-law so why can't you testify for your father-in-law because the king told us he can't do it that's it said you can't do it and I'll prove it to you everybody else has believed not because he's lying there was foring a guy to come to and he says prove who who was he asked him who was M's brother he says oh that's that's easy the che in in his fourth discourse he discusses whether m is is's brother so can no because he does he not believe same thing by you cannot testify on your father the goes back to the original original one what here's the case there was we can go back grandfather's son and Grandson the Yakov guy the middle guy sold I can take it away from here yov T takes the land from his father before his father dies and sells it that's the case and then this he dies first then the grandfather dies so the son Ru and all the way in the bottom goes ahead and grabs the piece of land so when we learned this we said oh Ru goes directly to what's the problem the PK is not telling us how to do yusha the p is just saying that you should have sons like the grandfather you should have you should have good good children nothing to do with that a grandson takes directly from a grandfather what yeah so yeah but you see that that's how it works is not is saying that it works like that's how it works right maybe you see many times you see how do you learn how do you learn I don't know what this is this is how they do it if you tell me that you don't learn that it's not it's just it's just a so now we're getting to our really say that it's it should have been slightly in the other not in this but okay the house fell down I got to show you this video again I mean come on everybody that sees it was hold on well well no look father I got this from the bank as a gift for taking out mortgage isn't it dangerous all look it will only work if you hold it with both [Applause] hands since left that means everybody saw already very proud of you very proud [Music] good we don't know who died first the or the son and somebody owed money to First the father died so they get the directly from the grandfather and the one that sold money the bank says no what happened was the father died so if the father died first the son became a millionaire for a moment fleeting moment until the rest of the ceiling fell on him and at that moment that he owns a million dollars we the want to go and collect from the son we're talking about a father son and a grandson like in our case okay we're not going to go into that case the other second case is talking about brothers if you're telling me that a grandson goes directly to the grandfather sorry it doesn't know he cannot go say I'm going directly to the grandfather I'm going I go through my own father before he said this is not telling me is just talking about we're giving a to the to the the grandson should be like his grandfather big in other words a grandson gets yha through his father who gets it from the grandfather then what does it help me who died first who died second either way just go back to this if we want to explain it nicely it doesn't matter here we go everybody's dead the father and the grandfather are dead let's say the son died first the grandfather what's the difference how did you Ruben get this million dollars because when y died it went to yob who's already dead it went to for a moment and it continued on to Ru at that moment that I went to to we want it the bank wants it so what's the difference who died first so you see from here that it doesn't work like that it actually circumvents you didn't understand we're not talking about and we're talking about whether he has to circumvent yov to get toha we're not even talking about a grandchild we're talking about we're talking about brothers so here it goes like this this guy YF is the is the is the what we're talking about here Y is a brother if ruin dies and makes an afina who dies first because if Y in fact inherits he's not inheriting through ruin it's not a question does he circumvent or not he's a direct yish of yob let's see for a second Ruben dies first then yob so then y gets to yusha how directly from his father he doesn't have to go through ruin if ruin dies and forget there's no okay there's a mistake I think forget this just Y and ruin if once ruin dies and then yob dies so yob has all theha and how does y get it directly from yob he doesn't have to go through Ru so the gor's question was who gets it as y but it's not a question of circumventing you don't have to circumvent in this case oh sponsor forget as bich family and Glen dedicated to Gad Jacob Israel thank you for bringing the into my life question we had this a little bit of it does a son inherit a mother when he's already dead to the point that he inherits it and then gives it over to the brothers to his side of the family take it out remember we had a whole thing taking it out let's see if we have something similar here something like this no there's not a Ben it's not so good theit are it's fine can a son we might have a real thing here somewhere it's fine you got it okay we're moving I don't know that we have to finish the whole per today let's try to get to because we did the whole the whole last 15 lines we did word for word in the beginning of the Ben who the son is dead can he inherit while he's dead to take it away from his mother side of the family and give it to his own brothers from his father's side we learned we have a sad situation father and son died we don't know who died first one was captured and died one is in bed and he died but we don't know which one happened first there's a there's a discussion here between argument between the father's and the son's and we do so ask the what's the case aren't they the same exact people the Y of the father y of the son if the son doesn't have any y so then it's the Y of if the son has y then it's the the the the sons get everything so where where's there the same person that we're talking it's the same thing there's no it's the same person says a complicated case here check this out real quickly there's a father who has a wife and a brother so we're actually going to be dealing with asov the brother it's funny the brings asov here yov and asov the par yov and Leia yov has a daughter Dina Dina married somebody called ruin and ruin also had another wife ra yeah ruin has two wives think about it for a second the child that ruin has with Dina is a grandchild of who of yov and Leia the child that Ruben has with ra is a grandchild of who no one we don't know unknown it's very important to remember that so Dina and ruen have a kid called so is a is a grandchild of yov R's kid no ruin is not ruin is not related to yov ruin married ruin is a son-in-law of yob he married Dina so when ruin has another child with ra that child is unrelated to yob and now we have a question where does the yusha go to does it go to asov or does it goes to Y okay because Y is not related to yov but he could get it through his brother let's see how it works Dina is dead Okay in all cases she she dies now if Yakov dies what happens on the right is the grandchild of yob he gets to yusha it went very fast let's see if we can go do it slower out of no no no no no no no no no yov dies and therefore Kan inherits the the land after Kan dies the the land goes over to his brother y it should have if he would have done it nicely he would have gone down to over to Y but if dies first and then yob dies I did it too fast then then doesn't inherit it certainly not and then the line goes over to says we don't know who first should be now if you are right even though died first what's the problem he he should inherit his mother in the grave and therefore should still get it in this case why you see that once dies he does not inherit his mother and I'll prove it to you if a house fell on him and his own mother both agree do and if you you think that a son inherits his mother in the C who cares who died first what's the problem so let's say the son died first under the house and then a moment later the mother let the son inherit his mother after he's dead son does not inherit his mother in theave the and what is the reason the that weish in that a husband once a husband dies he does not inherit his wife after he's dead so what happens to goes to her family since we have the same word by a husband and a son so son also does not inherit his mother in the grave see should we stop here should we do this okay we'll stop over here have a wonderful day [Music]