Daf Yomi Bava Basra Daf 102 by R’ Eli Stefansky

[Music] shom help us out [Music] May [Music] may my [Music] how's everybody somebody came over to me now he said he ding for me he promises twice I got a phone call from one of the guys in the he said you're the only one that I di for eight times why because I asked for it you got to ask something you got to ask I know you ding for me you told me on so I'm not going to I'm not going to put you on the spot L who diving for me here really EMS emis wow not bad not bad okay I'm going to go back to the video and watch that again thank you thank you for all those who D for me I need it you're the everybody but you didn't raise your hand a small a small one ah I appreciate it see I'm paying attention who raised who did rberg you di for me what happened you forgot come on when you down for yourself you also down for kol wow wow seberg you got to lead the way all right so what do I want to say I don't even know oh we have some guests here what's your name you're not such a guest but what's your name from you're we already said hello to you you're Gil who else what's your name you're sitting in the wrong seat you know Bar Park is sit in the back over there okay you got you have courage if you guys are hiding so you not so new Bruce cast from Bruce you said okay how's it going it's quiet no it's not so dangerous is it to drive from there to here no okay good news wow tough stuff H how are you the co for the month for the save and Speedy return of all the hostages that come from supporting it might be the last day we might have to do another day or two because we didn't really do it the other day I don't think the par of last day Sheldon in memory of Donna's father's father official moat leading visit a few times the art of the the whole staff to continue to make so enjoyable for so many this B is the first of three that I plan on delivering tonight if everything goes well after the she there's a she giml in Hebrew and then on in Hebrew anybody wants to stick around for the Hebrew is welcome it's the same exact thing basically all right so we are holding the AL P by the way there's a beautiful here there was basically every seat was taken on rashash both days uh it was a tremendous for me and I think for everybody that was here a few people I said it I just threw it out there and people told me during shear and after Shear I said this might be the first time that some of you are learning on R and a guy was 42 years old he said yes it's the first time I'm learning who has time to learn Tire usually might be a little time but people are tired and this you take a little nap even though you're not supposed to maybe you know but to sit down and open up a some people say some first time it's people that's a great way to start the year with and just letting people know we're going to be learning here next which iser will be here right here with the K without the K depend if there's time to take it off the here we'll be here so that being said it's not awesome on the bottom we're talking about finding a now here in it's very common there are people who to uh dig to build and they find bodies here there's bodies everywhere there basic far F everywhere in fact if you were to build a building here even if there was no body somebody will find a body there they will put the body in there and they'll say you can't build it's just something that happens here and if you pay the right amount of money the bodies go away and everything becomes good those who don't know what if you find a body you find the mace now the other day we're discussing on if you look at the you see whole diagram of this whole um cave system whole system of of kin of chambers within the the mountain so if he found a mace maybe you have to worry that you're part of a whole elaborate system a whole B of maybe a whole a whole cave so first of all there's a number of things here there's there's a there's a dead person laying in the regular manner what does that mean so we know unfortunately we went to a few ofis In Our Lifetime a Jewish mace is buried laying on his back straight with his hands like this usually so if you found a dead person in a standing position standing up like this you dig you find the skull you dig a little bit more you find shoulders you find the spine standing up you could assume it's not a it's not a Jewish person what if he's sitting sitting what if he's in a fetal position these are not ways that we bury the dead but you found a dead person laying down down on his back Mish the ho the hallway but you only found one so is now if you knew that this guy was buried here you knew that there's a there's a a grave they yeah it's not part of but they buried a guy here they buried him and everything you're not want to move him you don't have a right to move a dead person a person is yet if you find one guy it's possible that it was a temporary burial they ran out of time let's say it was shabas let's say they're running away it's during a waru took a guy bured him real quick with major plans to come back after the war come back the unfortunately that didn't happen maybe they they themselves died they forgot where it is I don't know what so since they buried him in a temporary Cav you're permitted to move him if you want to make sure that other people don't walk over it and it causes T you have a reason so what do you do you take the dead together with the soft dirt below it it's not pleasant but maybe it contains some of the body it decomposed into the ground so it's soft below that you take another three three by six by you know three whatever the size of a body is you take all that and you you move it that's if you find one if you find two talking about AA Gaza so you know they had to take out all the bodies why they're abundant passing you can't you can't leave the bodies there what would they do with it we know what they do in in har what are they going to do over there in Gaza so it's it was up to them they make I don't know a public bathroom over there you know so to certain situations you allow to move they were saying that umer they they try to take his body out they couldn't the going weren't successful whether the people died whatever so they built a train right over his Cav today's cavers under the tracks if you know the G are about to build a a train station maybe I want to advise anybody to do it let somebody else do it for you your neighbor not you yourself it's dangerous now this is already serious you find three bodies what does that tell us three bodies means that you found the basic Forest you found the whole system you found the cave now there's no cave why is there no cave everything collapsed my nephew he should be safe he's uh he's learning to be a general he's whatever or how do you say uh Commander not General Commander young kid he learned right here behind this wall in in the Yesa here so he came to my house on Y and he said smoing about different things he says not everybody they think it's so easy it's to get rid of one of the enemies not everybody's but he told me he said you know the they smell after they die the the enemy says we bury them how take a D9 run them over SM SM a little dirt pancake that's how it is like that so if leeno this whole cave system collapses there's no there's no cave I don't know if if if there was a cave you go it's like in sanhedria here they what is it called over herein you see the caves okay it's a cave but you found three bodies you don't know if it's part of a cave or not so before I forget this just very interesting because people told me I think even RAB schg might have said that Hally you're allowed to bury if you let's say somebody can't afford uh these Graves inas cost more than you know Penthouse and in The Old City buy a grave so there's a trick by grave you bury somebody really deep down in the grave you cover with six of dirt you bury again it's 100% Punk bed three triple layer five layer just down all you have to do is buy one is probably not going to be very happy charge you nice amount time that's Lally okay if you do six that's why in har in the new those chambers there's only this much cement I don't know how to get away with it maybe cement is different and that's why a lot of RAB said no yes okay did you write about it in the oh you did write about it oh two years ago I can't remember last week he talk me two years ago I know how many pieces already [Music] 189 saf for soon no if you RAB P you have 16 Farm already if you have they are laid out within four amas of each other or up to eight amas so now let's take a look at this for a second remember these the this is how it goes there's a MAA there's a a room and off the room you have these Chambers now you found three bodies it's possible says the gamar that you found something that's a 4x8 chamber here's a 4x8 4x8 MAA and the three bodies that you found they might be from the short wall also or from the long wall now the question is if they're on the short wall everybody remembers how much does a body take up one armor how much space do you need between each chamber one armor one armor so if you have three bodies and two ear spaces how much is that total five how are three bodies going to fit on a four amama wall so we have to say that as the M told us that it depends on how solid the C if you have a very solid it could be concrete you don't need an amama for concrete concrete could be this thing so too if it's made out of like solid uh Stone it could be T also okay so now your two ear ways two the two ears are like you could see over here two plus two is four plus one on the corner is five plus another Corner six six equals one so now we have three amas for the three Graves plus one for all the air for all the inet that's a total of four alas everything makes sense now the only thing that doesn't make sense the is going to discuss where do we come up with 4 by8 what numbers do you remember 6 by 8 good and what else 4 by six and 6 by8 we don't have a 4 by8 that the G is going to deal with that's today part of today's you found yourself a basic so what do you do when you find ay I got to tell you whoever was here in y I was struggling I don't know where my things are I had a pile of 20 pages and they were not in some of them were not in order over there okay it's fine and I'm looking through each one okay I I want this on sometimes I do it on purpose like I use it in the beginning of this year and then I use the same one at the end of this year I'm not going to print it twice I'm looking for the one it's over here over here each time was a minute to find it over here it takes seconds the it's so much better I believe when it's on the screens also I don't have to hold it up like this the guys in the back okay so now pretend that he found the three dead people over here with the three arrows are so it's possible that's it's like in this picture that he found the bodies that belong to the cave M where it says the sorry where it says 4 by8 right over here right maybe it belongs to this guy okay so if that's the case I have to go to the right of it I have to go with the green arrow you see the Green Arrow I found three bodies with the green arrows forget the the Red Arrows now the three arrows so I have to go all the way across maybe it's part of a a cave so have to go past the 4x8 room past the that's 6x6 that's where they do all the SP then I go to the next one and look over there so I have to I have to search 20 as it says over here huh correct and you have to go that way also you have to go to the left as well you have to go a little bit up too you have to little go down too what if I found three bodies this way and they belong to the long wall if I know for a fact they belong to the long wall then I don't have to go you know upwards and that you you save a little bit if you know for a fact but in in any event you're going to have to search in all different directions to the left of that to the right of It Up Down okay now the question is that we're going to see in a second where did you come up with 20 even a guy from panovich knows that you have one cave that's eight armo you have another cave that's eight amama that that's how much 16 plus six for theer is how much 22 why does going say search 20 it's 22 not 20 says the Goro three lines down has to check period okay yeah if you found a body all these bodies you're probably looking at a cemetery so let's keep on looking let's if you only found one guy then you don't have to check that's one but since you found three bodies now it's telling us that there there something going on here if you found these three bodies within fouras so they might be from the short wall they might be from the long wall because that's how they used to build they used to build 4 by eight okay so now theor just goes in say six each each cave is six so 6+ 6 plus 6 equals 18 where did you get the 20 eim let's go toim it's 8 + 8 + 6 is 22 again where do you get 20 okay we're gonna stick with this one if a person found many bodies and they're too many to to make sense that they fit nicely in a four in a four armor wall or eight armor wall so what does it tell us if you found Too Many Bodies what does it tell us huh what is it no they're too many it does doesn't make sense like graveyard in those days there's no graveyard what what it's temporary or it's what the Nazis did I don't know it's not it's not a it's not a it's not a cave it's not a normal base it was a temporary they threw them in there they're all lined up like this yeah just comes to mind because we were over there in Europe we weren't there but one of the saddest places in Europe is a place that we were next to we didn't go there but we did see a place similar but the famous place everybody knows about it what they explained is that the Nazis they didn't know they weren't proficient in killing they didn't know how to do it in the beginning they learned as they went along so one of the things they made a mistake was they took away the children from the mothers and that's a big no no because then the children get all worked up they wanted everybody to be calm they wanted to kill everybody when they were calm so they took away the children hundreds I think it was 800 or something and uh they lied to them oh your mothers are coming kids the children hopped and they started going crazy and then they they brought them to this big ditch and they said okay kids then kids started running in all directions it was a disaster for the Nazis they had to start shooting them as they're running anyway they took them all threw them into the pit and because they were so they were they were going wild they decided to bury all of them alive they buried all of them alive and everybody knows that when people went there two three days later the grave was still moving it's not one of the once in a while you have to think about iter the the richest that they did I'll say this again because I I can't get over this one richest obviously it was everything they did was much more riches than this but just to explain one thing and I'll say I said it and I'll say it again one of the things that that I couldn't believe you can't believe anything there like all the what they did killing one person you can't believe but that the head of M mic built himself a bathtub which is still there 10t away from the from the ovens 10 feet away so that he could warm the water to his bathroom you take a nice bath a bubble bath while they're burning the bodies 10 feet 10 feet away from him not a not a thousand feet away 10 feet away that's how removed they are from anyways show him my R so if you find a bunch of bodies this is not how we buried there not something went wrong here something there must have been some pum I don't know what and they found the bodies so when they bury like that the bodies are not so what do you do it's not a Bas of so therefore you can move it but you have to remove the dirt underneath like we described the soft dirt and then three but we skip the main part here it says so you asking me where did you get this number 4 by8 here it is 4 by8 oh let me show you what we did real quickly because I didn't have this for this year you see the top the top right you see there's a lot a lot of graves over there double than the regular so what you do is you pretend that you don't have a lot of graves something like this you see those the three the three arrows are too many so where you have an arrow you just get rid of it Hally get rid of it what's your problem they have too many bodies okay so Hally get rid of three bodies and then you have the remaining four and it becomes a b too much is not a problem too few is a problem basically is what the gar is saying where do we see something similar when it came to planting trees we had too many trees too many too many Vines so pretend that some of them are not there okay it's it's it's it's a it's a concept not everybody agrees to it some of you are thinking why okay so you're like the you pretend that the middle guys are not there and then you you're left with theologically right amount okay fine so this is a new we we saw four who says 6 by8 here's another that says 4 by8 okay so we have you're asking how do you find such a m there is such a m this a c for you told me that it goes so I I just want to pause there for a second I got to tell you the story I was going to say on y I'll say it over here I start from a different story and go into that story that basically when I was much younger when my kids were younger I almost every year I go skiing with my kids that's one of the family trips we go to try to go to Veil usually veil in Denver in Colorado I'm sorry for me I like Veil the most there's other places we went over the years sometimes Switzerland this that ski ker because I'm a little bit of a partner in some hotels so so I get like almost free rooms in in certain uh franchises so back then still struggling so M sheep skate I found that particular hotel but it was like 30 minutes away from from Veil okay for free why not we go kids are we after a day of skiing we get in the car me and my kid my two kids um my daughter was married now for seven years she's probably she's probably maybe 9 10 years old and kids you talking about I don't know 17 years ago K go from Vil we go towards the hotel and this it's the Sleep coming down the there's a little this thin layer of ice on the highway not good I felt the car you know and then I see a truck next to me literally sliding backwards get out of the way I see him pulling over hazards you know then they put the chains on the whole highway full of trucks with the GU is putting on the chains and it gets worse and worse and you're just seeing cars going doing funny things you try to go up a mountain and you're going slow and you're going backwards and this it's bad news we get to the hotel in the nicka time they tell us as we got to the hotel you got here wow they just closed down the highway closing the highway and within minutes people are trekking from the highway left the cars in the highway and walking into this place into this little town and coming to this hotel and there's zero rooms available to make a long story short the people I'm talking about over 100 people slept in the lobby in the hallways they were everywhere they couldn't kick them out these are stranded people and you can't stay in your car cuz you'll turn into icicle you know there's only a certain amount of you know gas that you have in the car fuel and people just you never saw such a thing just lined up people sleeping on the floor it was like that for a day and a half until I was able to some person tell told me listen if you take this in this road that's open keep on going that way K we got out of there fine why am I telling you the story there was a guy in this kind of situation who's stuck you couldn't go anywhere he comes into town he goes to hotels no hotels I was just explaining you it really has nothing to do with the story just explain to you how you can have a situation zero hotels and why he was so desperate couldn't do anything the only thing you could do is he knocked out a nursing home I need to sleep somewhere oh you're you're in luck a guy just died today there's a fresh bed for you so he goes into the room and he's about to he had no choice no choice it's see the dad on the floor in the supermarket what are you going to do so he he takes the bed and he sees a name on the door and he realizes it's a Jewish guy so he goes to the head of the nursing home and he says well what's going on here Jew yeah what are you doing with him he says we're cremating him tomorrow uh so you can't cremate can I take him Be Our Guest he takes this dead guy takes his dead guy puts him in his trunk rabi leer was here on Y and he told me the name of the person that did it he's a guy from Manchester I forgot the name of course shom I don't know know something Farish I don't know maybe maybe we can find out from RAB leader you know what we'll find out the next year his son-in-law comes we'll find out so he takes him and drives and he gets pulled over by the cops and they put him in jail for 40 years that's not what happened he drives all the way to Bar Park and he knocks on the door he says I got a I got a gift for you check out my trunk and they said okay that's you know $122,000 so what no you want us to bury that's there's a price he said but I'm doing mitzah do yourself a Mitzvah we're not you know what here there's a organization that they Mish for this people that nobody knows them and they bury them go to this goes to the organization and he says and he finds out that the guy that funds the entire organization is the guy that he has in the trunk the guy in the trunk m the guy in the trunk is the guy that funded this organization and he happened to find his body in I forgot where it was in Iowa somewhere crazy place no Jews put him there made a storm he happened to be in the guy's room took him he got the what a that is to take a dead person in your trunk next to your wife's filter fish and everything for and put it in there yep ask a leader tell you the name of the person it's a has to do with with burying the dead and how the whole world everything has a everything's all [Music] right so the sa says that you check 20 ask but if it's is 20 2 8 + 8 plus 6 is 22 6 plus 6 6 is 18 so the very simple it's say each Mar is six so 6 plus 6 plus 6 equals 18 but he says no one of the caves he checked on an angle and once again you know every every square is the the DI Al is 1.4 but over here it's not a square it's 8 by 4 or 8 by 6 so kid the diagonal is 7.2 so you round it off to the next highest number which is eight so it turns out that one of the caves instead of being six six and six is six six and eight because you're going on an angle why are you doing it on an angle because you want to check more you want to make sure that you're not missing any bodies any body any bodies maybe there's a little one maybe there's a n somewhere see one of them you go on an angle as maybe both of them should be on angle hey check this one out where am I wrong one this guy check both of them on an angle so now you're up to 24 22 sorry 8 plus 8 plus 6 22 even does the math for you it's 22 know we're not going to force a guy to check out of his way and check both C you check one you don't find anything out of the order you're good to go by the way another do we have a okay we have a few minutes the sponsored by oh it's the new sponsor let me see if I can find it here sorry turning the Tish the bski family you look in the back of your chairs or look in the chair in front of you you'll [Music] see in memory of that's their young son who in honor of my uncle thank you for selflessly giving up her husband for the cloud for year filled with so the said over he said there was a woman who used to dve in and cry every single day that she should be buried in the r b next to the R so they told her it's a because there nobody's been buried there for over a 100 years there's no point of ding for no she used to cry and beg and beg and beg sure enough the day she was n there's a massive storm as the says over the story The got confused and they took the wrong path instead of going to the old of course they went to the new one they went to the old one and they buried her there she got her wish but the said he says look answers that we know but answers dumb you know that's also there is a dumb thing to die in your whole life for listen to her you gave it her that's what he said sorry all the way top it this goes according to and what's your question according toim 8 + 8 + 6 equal 22 how did you get to [Music] 20 we're talking about if you look I did the best I could basically the cave on the left the the Chambers are very small they're for for miscarriages so the actual cave is a smaller cave I'm just show compare look at the right the chambers on the right are for hum regular humans and the one tiny little babies so they don't need a big marrow so it's actually 6 plus 6 Plus 8 not 8 plus 6 Plus 8 one more is a sixer why are both caves not for miscarriages time that would make it 18 doesn't make sense there's not that many miscarriages you know enough is enough one one terrible cave is enough now we're just going to ask a very very simple question this idea take a look at it for a second here you see how on the top right we discussed this there's so many bodies laying there so according to what do we do we take them off we pretend they're not there that would mean that if we have too many grape Vines to so let's talk about that real quickly if you have one Vine of a grape you're not allow to plant wheat next to it how far do you have to distance yourself from that one plant anybody who said six you six we had it recently six but if it's if it's part of a Vineyard then you have to distance it how much four six so now what if you have too many trees it's not a Vineyard it's not it's too many so say according to what should you do wherever there's arrows wherever there's trees pretend they're not there but that's not what says that's what say by the vineyard says you don't do that so we have a contrad when does he say it and when doesn't he say it and how can say you pretend the trees aren't de when it comes to the vineyard and over here when it comes to the graves they don't say it so we [Music] have if you have a Vineyard that has less than fouras between the vines so it's not really a Vineyard you see so take a look at what Yoshi did for me I asked him to do I said if it could take you five minutes then you do it if not not cuz shabas is crazy so very simple what he did he just I asked him to remove where the right part of the red arrow is as to remove that whole boom he took it out so the power of Photoshop so anyways you pretend it's not there pretend it's not there now you have a nice Vineyard of five whatever it is who says that it should have been that says who says it says you don't do that it's not a good Vineyard pretend how when it comes to Vineyard say we pretend it's not there when it comes to Graves they don't say it and when it comes to Graves says we pretend the graves are not there but when it comes to vineard he doesn't say says beautiful I miss you I haven't seen this kid in since the beginning of this man stealing my bunch of every year we lose a bunch they go to why basically we're going to use logic in both directions who plants a Vineyard think to himself I'm going to uproot some of these grapes when there's too many I'll uproot them you don't do that but when it comes to dead people unfortunately you're in against the shabas and you drop the Dead all in a big pile you say come back shabas yeah just it's not a good thought but uh somebody that was that's involved said you know after three-day y you know what goes on with these uh there's a lot of unfortunate a lot of mas the the situations where they can't handle it and now so they just put it there they say okay I'll take care of it at different time but nobody plants a tree and says I'll take care of it later that doesn't make any sense so far to say remove the bodies pretend they're not there and and it's a it's a good burial and also you could say when you pile up bodies like that that's disgusting that's not the proper way to do it and therefore it's not called a but when it comes to trees it's possible that a farmer planter whatever you want to call him he'll plant a bunch of trees and they're too close in proximity to be called The Vineyard but what is he doing he says he says to himself let me check out which one is oh so now we have a name from Manchester let me look let me plant a bunch and the good ones I'll keep and the ones that are not good are not and that's why it makes sense that sometimes they uproot Vines from the from the vineyard whatever is not good I'll use it as [Music] firewood for