Daf Yomi Avodah Zarah Daf 59 by R' Eli Stefansky

[Music] live from Park City, Utah. It's the final week. One more week in Utah and then off to Israel. I should be back in Israel uh Friday. I think so. I don't know what the the first year maybe Thursday night. A voice I I just received this morning. Yeah, it even says Friday, August 15th from Azriel Vineberg. So I received two emails gives me a lot of these emails. He says I'm learning in other words post high school and almost every benim every vacation I don't open up a gum. I want to tell you that in your for real in your I'm to learn every single day early in the morning after sh a day with your and without is two different days. Then you should know that you also gave me a lot of and learning and a lot of to my parents. I am jealous of you. Thank you. Thank you. You should continue to be. And then we have this. No, where's that one from the other? I want to do them back to back if possible, but I don't know where it is. Oh, in the beginning of Ben says Frank, I listen to the beginning of your aka the email parts and got hooked and decided that I would learn the shimm on since my is learning it now and I love the sh even back when the emails were were on gigantic pieces of paper. Anyway, you should know that you changed my BM and I haven't missed a day without Tyra. I know that you won't like this, but I just can't bring myself to start in the middle of a so I will start the next and we'll be part of the MDY family. Looking forward, thank you so much Frank. So to gives me a lot of that we're able to be even on Yeshiva guys, you got to see this. pulled out the phones in ziplockc bags and did the d and then we listened to yideliger's mimakim song and d for by the way we're a group of electricians spending a day together rafting and barbecuing each we actually have a WhatsApp group of close to 300 electricians where we help each other with anything needed. So you should know niwax I have a very soft spot for you and your whole because I used to be an electrician. And I started off in um in I wanted to do all the trades before I got into real estate. I knew I wanted to do real estate where I buy properties, but I wanted to know properties from the bottom up. So I worked in construction and things like that for 3 to four years. My first year plus was in uh I was an electrician. All I did was bent pipe because in Chicago you have to you have to have uh you know pipe and then put the wires through the pipe. So I did everything from from bending pipe and uh circuit breakers and all that gishmaka stuff. Got electrocuted a bunch of times. It was galvvic by the way. Yeah. So I have so new. So so take your group of 300 make them 300 mdyers. Galdic starting jobs and even giving the work to others who need it just by posting it on the group with MDY. Unlike the others, we as holy know that everything is from Hashem and there's no such thing as competition. Unbelievable. Go with such amuna. I'm proud to be part of this special group and this holy nation. You're forever wax Abee's brother. Here they are boys >> with the ziplockc bags on the river. So beautiful. >> I'm actually I get energized by seeing these pictures. Somebody scream from the second floor. >> Mom worked out because he scream ah and I like talking to him never stops him on vacation. My firefighter Morty Strauss the one uh holding the phone with the blue with the light blue shirt met Rabi Briger from Lakewood. H he's been to the marish a bunch of times. His son libey and camp adventure daffers on a boat in Charleston, South Carolina. You hear this? Two guys meet up in Charleston, South Carolina on a boat and the all MDs and they even proving it with the different merch they have. Mdisha wherever you go stuff um from Reichbach very close to Reichbach from Chicago but not he's a lawyer in Israel in America. Here we go. Starting the DA in Norway. >> Good morning Raasai. to do the even on the mountains and in the fence of Norway. I don't know that might be the first time we were in Noro sponsor David Solomon dedicated memory of more sponsors of the anonymous may our learning be a shield of protection and source of unity and blessing Joel Gadalius my father Jackadalius multi sponsors DCS Israel power save anonymous for s motor and bat suram for harabi Israel Zevul and by Dr. Aram Epstein and his wife Rifka Rufa for Shashana Basel. Wow Dr. Aram Epstein I miss you. Daily sponsors Francancy Brin and Dr. Barry Fer leelish our mother to bas on her fifth yard of shalom Aaron or Dentlich in honor of a great friend Moandi should have much all that he does see Molandi is no longer Molandi it's moandi starting to calli family our neighbor who just passed away miss Mrs. Doris Beni monthly. Here we are towards the end of a that's every minute every so if we just take it back a little bit to we did the story we got to do it again a little bit went to a place called and he noticed Jews that are eating fruit without taking and he said these fruits He saw let's go back even to this one from who's in Switzerland and now I know why the Stfanskis moved to Switzerland back in the day. >> Not from this picture. You got to see some of the videos that Nom sent me. So asks the question if you bow to drink from the water does is it a problem not a problem? The Gar says the idol worshippers they bowed to the water and the Jews drank from it. That is awesome. Also, we came to say before you take off your clothes, I know you're very tired from the trip, but before you get take off your jacket and relax, go back and say, first of all, Betser is in the is not is not in. And therefore, the Jews over there didn't take Jerusalem. And you should know that public water cannot become. So here's where we're holding and I have a riddle forum. How is it possible that a human being is not allowed to marry a Jew or a non-Jew? How's it possible? What's the case? So I hope that you remind me even though nobody's sitting here in front of me. Uh the answer is coming up in the Gambara. Maybe I should put my little sticker over here. Maybe it'll remind me. Okay. So, if he said not true because could marry certain people. Now, why did argue with when it comes to water? When a guy go bows to water, why does he say that it's We learned it in the I think it's yeah it says over there in the Mishna that their gods are on top of the mountain but the mountain itself doesn't become seems like private water should become ask but we have a problem water is no different than a mountain if a mountain you cannot create aar out of a mountain you can't a can't look at a mountain and say hey mountain you are aar mount rashmore you're maybe mount rushmore is different because they made a misus like we said if somebody makes a a mountain okay so we're not going to talk about Mount Rushmore but it's just a mountain looking at a beautiful mountain in Switzerland say I want to make that mountain of it doesn't work water says the is like a mountain what's a mountain a mountain is comprised from small pieces of dirt or whatever it is sand rack over here you have a bunch of water it's one piece you can't make water you can't make water says We're talking about I don't want to confuse you have a nice wave or here let's look at this wave. If you look at the end of the wave you have parts of the water that are separated from the wave. Those are the parts that this person worshiped. He worshiped and not the the the solid mass of the water, but the little pieces that spray and and and disconnect from the actual wave. I'm just having in mind the my good friend David the surfer. So I heard this I heard from Salant. I don't know exactly. So I'm I'm going to add my own piece if this is what he said. He said, "If not, I'm saying it." Basically, a typical person, if he's hit by such a wave, what would happen? He would drown. A wave is a dangerous thing. Yet, there are people that seek these waves. They love these waves. They they actually fly to different countries. David Hagal found MDY um close to seven years ago because he was on a serving trip and he looked us up. He was in Kursaw. I don't remember anywhere. It was some island and he looked us up. That's when he found us. People fly to other countries to to to to catch the wave. But most people, the wave is a dangerous thing for them. If they're sitting, if they're swimming around in the ocean, all of a sudden, one of these things hits them, hits them, it could be super dangerous. Yet, these people that know how to maneuver the wave, they have the right equipment, they have that surfboard, they know how to use the surfboard, they so the wave is unbelievable for them. And the same thing is life. life when you don't know how to maneuver and somebody says something to you, it could be devastating. But if you work on yourself, you have the right tools and you understand life. You work on yourself. So somebody says something to you, it elevates you, you write it, it's feels good that you're able to to ignore and make make it make yourself a better person. Use it for the daff as well if you have the right tools you have. So yes, a hard day comes and it's like a wave and it hits you and you don't know what to do and you don't want you have the right tools. You get out of it, you learn and and at the end you feel good about yourself. Okay. So you have a little piece of water that detached from the wave. I'll just remind you, we had this art back then, you have a large stone. I remember saying then that we saw like the they build these fences everywhere when you have these major mountains and you can see that, you know, stones fall down. They actually do fall down, but they crush cars. They crush things. And we had all over there. Is are these stones considered part of the mountain and they're therefore they don't become or perhaps they're not part of the mountain? There's a whole sh over there. There was no human intervention. It fell by itself. Not very good. uh this time over there in that there was a debate who said who said what was it was it the sons of and the gar doesn't know over there says that holds that by water it remains meaning that pieces that come off the salad have a as non-salid pieces and therefore it's The stone of the mountain should be user not like the mountain. The mountain is mut doesn't become a desar. The stone does here this is how do I know because when it comes to water the solid mass of water doesn't become but the pieces that come off the wave do become here says no we're talking about that the the guy he moved up the water with his hand. He created the wave by his hand. So that's why this here this is a human intervention. Once it's human intervention then the it becomes awesome says the story went to he noticed that these Jewish women became pregnant from non-Jews from idol worshippers. who had a right like the we had yesterday you have a a person who becomes a g or e we're talking about gir in the process and I guess it's not so comfortable to go to the mikvah that day you probably have to wait a week I don't know how long until it heals so they were in in between the process they had the brisma and they didn't have a and they got pregnant these These Jewish women, they thought that they're okay that they gay and they got pregnant. This actually answers the the riddle. According to some a person who is in the process of becoming a g who had a brisma is somewhat Jewish but not Jewish and therefore he cannot marry cannot marry a guy and he can't marry a Jew because he didn't have that answers the question here's a person who can't marry anyone in the world because he's in the process he's he's in between he's not a Jew and not aid but he's not a go either so he can't marry go but he's not a Jew so he can't marry a Jew There's a with a a woman who's engaged came to said that she found out that her mom married a soldier in England and they got divorced but only a civil divorce and therefore that made her an Asia sish and her mother went and got married to somebody and had her this woman was asking the shila and this woman was asking is and she wants to know if she can marry her because she is why her mother was never divorced from her original husband she had a civil divorce but not a real divorce is that a mam or not so said let me think about it come back tomorrow so she came back and said you're allowed to marry why he found out this is the He called up the Pentagon or whatever he did, he did some research and he found out that yes, there was such a soldier. The thing with the soldier is that he before he married this woman's mother, he had another family and he never told this woman's mother. He had a wife and two children. Says had your mom known that he was a married person with a family, she would have never married him. That's called a mech. And because she was never married to the first husband, only to the second one. And therefore you're not a mamasinstein at his best caring about another human being looking for the chuva and getting to the bottom of it. So he saw three three things that he didn't like. He saw that these women were getting pregnant from that had a but not he saw the we saw yesterday that the non-Jew was diluting the wine with twothirds water and the Jews were drinking from it. What's tusim? some sort of bean. A lot of people love this kind of bean and you have to you have to soak it for a long time. You have to cook it for a long time. So they they allowed so to speak of this bean and then the Jew would eat it. He didn't say anything you need to go back and make some order over here. You got to tell them say no I I said the story of in the wrong place I should have said it over here with I want to say another story before I'll tell it to you now that there's another misery with Carelitz it's a fascinating story learn a lot of stuff from it cares was called in he said that there's there was a woman who's dying in the hospital in her role and she wants to become a guar so he went to check it out and he said, "Why do you want to become a guaras?" She said, "Because her father is Jewish." And he said, "But I don't I discourage." She said, "No, I want to be buried like a Jew." A whole thing. So went out of his way to find a mikvah for to that she could be even though she's a dying woman. Who's going to accept such a woman in the mikvah? and he found the place and they were ma and shortly afterwards she was nif just to show that he actually he cared about gay etc et can never bring a g no even in an extreme case he went out of his way to to be Okay, now I just I'm smiling to myself because the story that I I know of personally I heard the story there, you know, the the people that are trying to to get green cards in America. So, one of the ways to do it is you get married. Get married to an American. So, you have a lot of, you know, especially now with all the what's going on. It was just in the news yesterday that they said that anybody tries to do the stick um they're going to I don't know a whole threaten them. In other words, people just get married just for the green card. So it's a whole thing you have to pay somebody. So somebody saying that there's people that they know in the from community that will for certain amount of money since they're not legally married to their own wife so they're considered not married. So they'll marry even like their cleaning lady just to make some money. And I was just thinking to myself, is that a problem of the whole the whole thing that you now that I have is a problem of you know you know that you shouldn't come to marry. So could you marry them? Is that a problem to I'm assuming it's a problem. The whole thing is a problem. I'm just saying to add to the problems. So, did I skip anything? I just want to make sure I didn't skip anything. Hold on. Okay. All my name say that they're the kids of and the wine that they diluted is and the them cooking up theim is a problem of and the problem is since they're not learned people so they're going to make mistakes. Let's just say all that stuff is awesome [Music] because goes according to his own of the of the opinion that you don't become a G until you do. You need both. There's a lot of notes here. Wow. Hold on. Oh, and since he only did half, he didn't do the he still considered an idol worshiper. Listen to this. has a child from a a Jewish woman. The kid is considered imams. That's why I go ahead and announce to everybody that the kid is imams. Even though the father had a brisk, but he didn't have the famous, but I could say it because I'm from Chicago. I'm not going to say his name. A very famous, tremendous, he's no longer alive. He was one of the Russian Shivas in Skoi and they fired him. So they had a uh departing dinner whatever it's called they had a dinner and the final dinner this got up and he said that the two that came to the crying Alenu and says Alenu I'm always at the end of ding and people are always running out and they're rushed when they see me you know what's it's not fair so says you know I'm going to put you in middle of the kippers dabing and you know that will be your mom nobody wants to marry me this that it's hard life is hard they call me they may make fun of me mam so looked at him and said you know you mamar you know what I'll make you the president of the sky yesa that's that was his departing zara mishuma And we should make on their wine. Why? Like we had yesterday, just to remind you, I'm not going to show you the whole thing again, but that video that if go right through the mirror, we tell him go around. Go around. There's a I didn't mention yesterday, so we'll just say today. There's a a big um what do you call them? a psychologist or um even more than psych he has a lot of patients that that deal with addiction. So he doesn't allow them to go to downtown Chicago. Why? Because downtown Chicago and the Sears Tower or whatever they call it today, the Wilson Tower, there's a big antenna and that reminds the the addicts as they're getting out of it. It reminds them of a syringe for some reason, some of them. And it triggers that syringe. No, that's what I was just talking yesterday about the, you know, different things that trigger things. So, if you're a nuzzer and you're not allowed to have wine, you go through the vineyard, the grapes are going to trigger your your they're going to say, "Oh, drink drink a glass of wine." We have it with our phones, you know, you go into the bathroom, so you immediately reach for your phone or whatever it is. You sit down by the table, you pull out your phone. Certain things trigger. we you don't really want to look at the news right now, but when you do a certain act, whatever that is, that triggers and that's why you have to learn how to um replace that whatever it is with, you know, instead of taking out your phone, you take out your gar, what I'm saying, whatever it is, you put your phone away. Different different methods we're dealing with, but you'll find yourself like doing things that you're not supposed to be doing when you are triggered by certain things. And that's what the is saying here that you tell the ner stay away. You tell the guy stay away from you're you and wine don't mix. Once you touch wine you're next to wine then you start with you have a desire already. Yeah. I don't want you being next to any wine. Yeah. And the reason why we say that they're not allowed to cook up these beans, they don't know, they're not learn if they were it would be okay. Why? If you could eat it as is, then there's no bishakum. But since these beans need to be cooked many times here, I think we have this over here. Let's see what we have. >> Hi. Today I'm going to make this is one of the most popular snacks seen in Portugal. It is just as conspicuous as peanuts in the United States at a ball game. What they are is they're lupini beans. That's the translation United States. It's basically a lupini bean that is rehydrated and brined in salt. This is a fairly long process cuz like olives that are nasty right off the tree, lupini beans are very bitter. So it takes six to maybe 12 to 15 days of soaking to get rid of that bitter taste. >> Oh, so you have to soak it six times whatever it is. Mm. You cannot eat it as is. So if you can't eat it as is automatically becomes says like the other reason that is since kings don't eat these peanut things these lupini beans. So it's not it doesn't go on the king's table and therefore it doesn't have a problem of [Music] and the reason why it's also because they are not learned but yes now Ty just points out that everybody agrees that to the first thing that if you if it's something there's two reasons, right? One is and the other one is so says everybody holds but in addition to that the question is do you need both reasons or not? In addition to that you have another reason that it's not doesn't go on a king's table. So that you need both of these reasons. By the way, I forgot to show you this. head with a that had a mil and let's see. So he's mean that it happens one after another they put him right after the milo and boom interesting. Okay. So, it's interesting. I don't know if you remember. I'm sure you do. Just to refresh our memories. We had this I think when did I show it? Yesterday. We had this case where this at this point we said in the Mishna does not become white. doesn't become wine. It doesn't become yaya. It goes through this pipe and only when it comes down here into this bar does become. Nevertheless, the asks a question. What's the if a guy brings boxes of grapes to the to the press and there's a lot of juice in the bottom again? Why go around? Don't come close to the vineyard. A question. It says that brings grapes in a basket even though it's full of juice. It says says you're telling me that he brought I'm not talking about after the fact. I'm talking about can you tell him could you hire him and tell him help me out to bring these graves? Of course. If he already brought it, we're not going to tell you to throw it out. All right. Let me just make sure I didn't miss anything. Okay. Looks like we're doing okay story there was an oh turning global mdys enjoying the benefit of meers of mdy clients create more meers from so can help us all get anonymous anonymous a boy said what happened was fell into a barrel of wine So I I don't know who this is exactly. Somebody sent in his version of AI for this. Why not guys looking at and it fell into the barrel of wine and the non-Jew pulls it out. Okay, that's one version. Here is Rabbi Miller's version. This is elaborate. >> What is going on here? >> I like that his feet are backwards. Okay, >> get him out. Get him out. Keep his hands in the wine. >> A gentile reached upon the brink. Hold his hand still ra she cried and tip the barrel on it side. Now what says so the the gentile jumps in and grabs the arg. So when he's going in to get the esrig is not a problem because he's thinking about getting the rig. Once he has the rig in his hand, they grab his hands and make sure that he doesn't move his hands. We said the whole problem is that he moves the the wine around. Grabs so it doesn't move it around. Tilt the lean and tilt the barrel over. Get the wine to a level where it goes below his hands. So he can't go like this. Once his hands are in the ear and not in the wine, then pull him out. Because if you pull him out while his hands are still in the wine, he could still go like this. Do you want to see it again? Let's see the part of grabbing him. Hold on. >> What is going on here? >> Get him out. Get him out. Keep his hands in the wine. >> Keep his hands in the wine. [Music] I just like over here there [Music] >> the guy's happy that he's out. A lot of nuances here. Okay. If a idol worshipper does to a Jews wine on purpose, even though you're not allowed to sell it, you're allowed to take money from that idol worshipper. Now you might be asking yourself a question because I asked this question yesterday. I showed you a tus where says that if a go tries to destroy you wine on purpose it's not in fact there's an old man who's drank that wine and later on he died but that over there is talking about that he tried to damage the Jew. Over here we're talking about he didn't try to damage the Jew. He did it on purpose for a Zara. He's a big sad this guy. He wants to worship his wherever he goes. So you see Jewish one, he worships with that. He did it on purpose for not on purpose to damage the Jew so we could get payment from him. Why? Even though you can't sell the wine because this guy damaged since he's a damager, he has to pay for his damages. So pay for the damages. Oh, once he pays for the damages, you're allowed to give him the the wine. I'll give you a mushel. When I owned my little plane, I owned a Cessna 182. So worth a few hundred,000. No, it's not a it's not a jet or anything. And in order to subsidize the this this mishas of owning a plane, it's like owning a a yacht. It's it's it's a money pit, right? Cost a lot of money to hold the plane. So what what did I do? I rented it back to the club. In other words, people were able would be able to rent my plane until this one guy came and rented my plane and he crashed it on landing. He total the plane. So he had to pay me, but automatically the plane became his. Then whatever he went and sold it for a few thousand dollars upon him. If the guy damages the wine, he has to pay for the damage. Oh, once you paid, then you're allowed to give him the wine. It's not a sale. It's in lie of the damage payment. He damaged it. He damaged. Okay, he has to pay for the damages. How do I know this is [Music] when it says that there's a guy who poured the wine not in front of by the way this is one of the reasons that they say that are not a problem from India why because the Indians they don't they don't cut off their hair in front of a desar that that's not proper they do it it's for so since it's not in front of a desar that's one of That's okay. So here he did the Jews and there are two that say that why for two reasons it only works in front of the other reason is you have no right to ask her my thing. Now we did say that if you take action in the thing it does become right that's what that's why we pass that the wine is awesome but the uses you don't have the right to ask or my thing there is says you do have the right in other words if he takes action destroys it moves his hands whatever it is then yes only if he bows to it then you don't have the right to have somebody else's But but because we say this you don't have the right to ask for somebody else's thing. So learns from there if he actually did damage the wine in this case we're saying he damaged he can't benefit the Jew to pay for it and Rabai have a good I'll see you tomorrow have a wonderful day merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world sponsor a shir today mdysponsor.com or sponsor at mdy adopt.com