The Secrets of Jewish Matchmaking Nobody Talks About - Zvi Mitz

Welcome back to another episode of the Clappy and Frank show. We have with us the world famous Mitz who is a very popular. I want to know used to be the hottest thing. Oh, the father's a big rub. The father's a big dying. Lately, it sounds to me it's all about the Benjamins. People want people with money. Money talks, the rest walks. Is it true? >> Listen, I I can only go by my experience. Generally, generally generally no, not really true. Not really true. Um, >> maybe you're just getting the pork client. [laughter] Shukim goes like this. You say like this. You want a a good boy, a good girl, a top boy, top girl, rich, poor, medium, working class, upper class, middle class. The mids speak much more than the than the money. Okay? If you're talking about rebers or rebel or some it's a different story possibly but generally generally speaking people was going for midas and they can go for regular working class people's top boy top girl they go they want the mid this they want the top boy top girl the money is very very second this is my experience the money is very very secondary but >> Mr. I think we need to get a different clientele. >> Well, it's coming after this. Maybe that's coming. [laughter] >> Spe, if a family owns 50, 60 buildings, commercial, residential, they're worth $300 million, I don't know, in pounds, maybe that's 200 pound million pounds on a rainy day in November. Are you telling me their daughter or their son, 23 years old, regular, not the biggest rocket scientist, not the biggest superstar, not the most charismatic personality, are you telling me they're not going to have a much easier time finding a than a family where the father works in the supermarket and they live in a section A department? I don't know what you call that, community housing in London or whatever. Girl and boy, exact identical. they're not going to have a much easier time. I I think to a c certain extent most people struggle which should it doesn't matter rich poor who you are what name you got a certain percentage I don't know what percentage could be but a small percentage they go through plane sailing no issue no problem young maybe the first or the second person they meet but most people have some form of struggle some form of challenge it's not an easy para uh they they talk about is like as as difficult as splitting in the Red Sea. So yeah, it's in the Krisham, right? It's harder. Um you know there was a mush once about you know why why you know why they say it's as difficult as Shamsov because you know they there's I think it's a midrash that says that when the Yidden came about to cross the Kishamsov and they didn't cross over over they crossed on the other side of you know the same shore further down the beach if you like on the same shore. If you imagine this in your mind it's like imagine there was 12 Shvatam right says that every every sha had a different tunnel that they went through. So if you imagine like something similar to a rainbow. So the first sh has got just a little arch and the next one bigger, next one bigger, next one bigger. So you get to 12. So yeah, people have an easy time forim. Yeah, they're the ones that have the very small journey at the bottom, the small arch and people have a very hardim. They're the ones the sh that's over there taking the longest term. That's that's someone it's a mush. Someone told me >> if you're looking to get a wamping, could you give some tips what the family needs to look like, sound like? Do you have any branding tips? >> My experience is like this. Listen, everything's we know we're speaking to initiated. Everything is minim everything is bashet. You can definitely you make a kay you dodadas. Uh a stadus is is is for some people is more than others. Some people have them make a very large stad. Some have to make a small [sighs] >> Well, first of all, you got to get a sham. [laughter] That's >> you need a broker. You need a matchmaker. >> Friend and family as well. And this doesn't it doesn't have to be a shout on you need someone you need someone's going to root for you someone's going to shout of you someone's going to you know problem is like this also what I do find you know people got burnt people on references comes along a resume half a dozen references or three or five references and uh the references got burnt out cuz sometimes they get phone calls every few days every week every two it's very hard you think people people are busy and uh you know I've had it many times you know I asked the people how's the reference calling going up couldn't get through left the measure blah blah through people get burnt out. It's very hard. So sometimes I would advise also change up change up a little bit the references. People shouldn't get the same same one over and over again. I can't saying that some people unfortunately don't get any phone calls. You know, >> I find that if a guy or girl was like 40 years old and they have you on your reference since you're like 22 and you're getting calls for 18 years, >> you know, you wonder if the people that you have you on your reference, are they serious? >> It's very very >> I hate to I'm going to get criticized for this. if they're not serious. I mean, maybe they are serious. I don't know. But let's say they just are passing around their resume. I don't know what they're looking for in life anymore, some of these people. And then you're getting phone calls and people want an hour of your time. You're like, you know, I got, you know, >> listen, first of all, I say, you know, don't drive the references crazy. You know, ask the questions what you need, what is pertinent, what is important for you. You don't have to go through the whole list. When I send out, I send out loads of questions and people I try to help people out. You know, I send uh a sample of questions what you should ask references. I say, you know, there's 40 odd questions there. Don't ask every single question because it's an issue for everybody. Ask what's important for you and it's very very important. People should update their resume. Like what you said, some people got a resume and they didn't change it for 5 years plus and people knew them when they was uh 14 or 16 or 18 and now they're mid-20s, late 20. They got no connection with them. So it's very very important. Update [snorts] your resume. >> Update your photo. Update your resume. Update your all the all the all the details. Very important. >> You should write you should write gain 40 lbs. I'm now bald with white hair. [laughter] What What should people write? How you wantanna You want that picture that you look good. And by the way, all these references are a bunch of lies because you pe you put people down that are going to say good things about you. You should never call people on the reference. You should call people that don't like the guy and hear all the nasty stuff. Then the truth will be in the middle somewhere. >> Well, obviously smart people that don't only call on the reference of the call outside what's on their resume the reference the call outside as well. Of course, >> I got married a little late as my wife, a little even later. And two years ago, a guy walks like, "Are you married?" I'm like, "What do you mean?" He's like, "Someone sent me your wife's resume. [laughter] >> Sweet me." >> I've had I've heard that quite I've heard that. Unfortunately, it's, you know, some people are not up to date with what's going on. You know, it can be listen mistakes. It's not, you know, is human, you know, not robots. Robots also make mistakes. You know, >> a very popular shan in Crown Heights. She calls up my friend Yankee. He told me the story like verbatim. He's married like 14 months and she calls him up and she's like, "Yanke, do I [screaming] have the perfect [laughter] shed for you?" He's like, "Rebson, I'm married 14 months. I'm quite happy." >> Brilliant. >> Have a wonderful day. >> Was much for 10 years. >> Mr. Mitz, um, what are [sighs and gasps] what do I say this? What's considered trending now? Islus in Kab, you know, it's trending. Is that still trending today or is there a drop off? Do people want to marry people or tell you what it is if you could talk about world? >> Sure. Sure. what it is like this you know obviously you know the reb system and our kids most of our kids a lot of our kids want to go on this is this is it you know this is it this is the from a very young age and you know they come to you know after after you know after and they want to go and the same for the girls as well and you know kenyu the world is saturated with all over the world saturated it's hard to find it's not you know it's not a secret it's difficult to find you'll find but the point is it's hard to find it's hard to find um so sometimes you know somebody wants after year 6 months two years okay we have to try find the different things so yeah so a lot of people start out yeah only but you know people are are changing their mind you know they're changing the strategy a little bit because uh it's hard >> do people want to marry people who were parents of so they get a secure location is that a thing >> got that as well I have many many times the parents of the boy the girl or the somewhere very successful and they sometimes offer they ask me they tell me you know the offer we have a position for you know [laughter] >> have to just kick somebody out >> we're going to kick somebody out in the next few [laughter] months there's going to be an opening we're going to win a terra there's going to be a great opening there's [laughter] actually already a kabat house there change passwords But you know it is is it is a thing. It's as if it is a thing. >> Do you do you do you see an issue of people marrying wealthy? What are the downsides of marrying wealthy? >> They call it golden handcuffs. All right. Um >> I thought golden handcuffs is when you have like a job that pays you just enough money to survive and you're never going to leave and go on your own. Also with marrying rich >> call it got the handcuffs, you know. I mean again I haven't got a lot of experience with that. Uh but you got to reckon that you know the side that is is calling the shots. I mean but Duffka you know but sometimes like that >> someone told me >> people go into that knowingly you know people going know you [clears throat] know people not stupid people know >> I think people are stupid. Someone told me that it's better for a rich guy to marry a poor girl than a poor girl, I'm sorry, than a rich girl marrying a poor guy because the lady girl has standards and the shenanas like I'm used to having six servants and a cook and the guy's coming whatever. That's if the her parents are not pro providing the lifestyle that she's used to. Do you have any comments on that? I I didn't really experience it and what happens after I don't really hear what happens after. >> Nobody ever asked for a refund. >> Not um what happens after but you got to reckon you know there is a lifestyle difference and people have to make that choice and people have to you know measure up and weigh up and then you know I always talk you know with midas to you can work everything out. Midas to any situation that comes along get sorted out. So you know >> are known for not you of course but the rumor is has a very distinct name it stands for sheer >> diver they spew a bunch of lies and they just take all the money now not you but let's be honest when I sell something in any of the businesses I'm there I'm there to make money you know so when I have a painting when I have a Judeaic item I'm going to tell you the greatest guzzle that ever lived I mean okay could be to some people he was the greatest guzzle this is the artist that ever lived. Okay, but you like it, you don't like it. Inim, you know, everybody knows that everybody has problems. You know, a girl could be from a great family and she could have a great degree, but between 16 and 19, you know, she was on a lot of medications. You know, during her time in seminary, you know, she was shoplifting, I don't know, but the police, you know, they didn't press charges. You think a shopskin is not going to say by the way WHEN SHE WAS IN SEMINARY she was arrested for shoplifting and between 16 and 19 she was on three to four medications but the doctors say she's now the trauma's done the going to focus I'm like if gets questioned about that maybe he'll mention but I'm sure they same thing with Bahim you think they're going to say when this bak was 16 to 19 he showed up to bes once like people called me up I'm the president of a shul 17 years I got phone calls about a guy wrote on his resume they do in my shul I [laughter] I've never seen the guy there. >> Brilliant. Brilliant. >> Now, did he show up for Kesh once eight years ago? I don't know. I was probably eating chants. So, how do not you not you your competition? How do they navigate between the truth and the the dirty stuff? >> I I can only speak for myself. I don't speak for others. I don't pretend to speak for others. I speak only for myself. I got involved in this a little bit for those types of reasons. Uh, for me it's no fluff, no bluff. That's it. Straight as a die. Don't I refuse to get involved in these types of things. Uh, honesty is the best policy and it's takru. I'm not selling a secondhand car over here. I'm selling a tyra ta boy and a girl. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful families. Yeah, people unfortunately had challenges in life. They still have challenges. that will have challenges. Don't gloss over everything. Just as it is. Obviously, I know what I know. Majority of things I don't know. You know, I'm not uh you know, I haven't got Kesh. Um but I would say like this. Um again, I interview a lot of people. I offer a video interview to get to know the singles. I've interviewed a lot of people over the years. I get to know them. It helps a lot. You know, when you see a resume, two dimensional resume just with a photo and just with a resume. I always tell people this is 5% of a person. This is not really the person. Want to speak to them or want to get to know them gives me a much better idea what they're looking for, who they are, where they're holding, what the personality is, are they loud, are they quiet, how they hold themselves, you know, from, you know, to do you need a lot of initiative and and you need you need a lot of a lot of sort of like a six sense if you like. You got to really look into people, understand them. When you speak to them, you look into their eyes. you try to see what's behind and a shatan you need this this this to really get to know what's going on and that helps that helps um so I would say like this yeah obvious people unfortunately have do have you know but as you know people make the shuva and the shiva can be done in a blink of an eye and people can change themselves and turn around 180° and they can come out good and once somebody's older they mature they change once someone gets married usually they can become more stable They have a wife without a husband is usually okay. >> When do you know to push? Let's say I don't know they're on a second third date and the guy or the girl says not for me. When do you decide you want to try to push versus not pushing? >> No fluff, no bluff. I don't push. Don't push. It's not push. Don't push it. It's never I'll give you a mush as well. Someone >> you never try to push. If you have a good if you have a good six sense and say I think it's good, but you >> I'll tell you what. If if something is small, I can get it over the crossing line and it's not a major issue, then I will speak it out with the people. Speak about the parents, speak out with the singles, whatever it is. At the end of the day, it's bash. Don't push. I'll give you a mush. Someone told me a very nice mush could do with like this. Imagine you have you're a big train station. You got a very very long train, many many carriages, very heavy train, many many t hundreds of tons. You bring a few thousand people. You try to push the train. Yeah. You push it a few feet. Once the train is moving, once it's going, you bring a few million people that can't stop the train. And this is if it's bashet, if it's not bashet, it doesn't matter how much you push, how much you try, it won't go. And it's if it's bashet, you can't stop it. That's my experience. Is like that. Don't push. Yeah. small client to kite and small things you can you know I can't think of examples now but you get over get over the finish line you know again commitment issues a lot of people have commitment issues you know they can go 8 10 12 15 dates everything's perfect brilliant the parents agree it's great the kids themselves the boy and girl agrees agree it's a great shak but commitment they can't get over the line they can't commit and and that's one I I I advise you know try coach you know they work with singles and they can work. You know, I'm not a qualified shotgun coach. I'm not a psychiatrist. I can't, you know, I'm just a shotgun. But the point is that, you know, some people have commitment issues and they need help and other issues as well. >> My mother has a policy with boys that you must give the girl a second date. Even if you know a billion% a billion% not compatible, not happening. >> And you have to now dry cleaners and rent a car and car wash it and make yourself look good and put on cologne and take her out and buy a drink and waste a whole night. >> And I asked my mother ma ma why? She says you are not going to destroy a basis% >> and and and hurt her self-esteem. It will be devastating to her. Now I know a lot of mothers do not have this policy and they think they think the opposite but what's your opinion >> 100% listen is it Indian you know think about it you know you take somebody you know it's not for you it's not for you it's not for you one more time even if you know it's not for you I mean I must tell you something there's evidence that people who are happily married with a beautiful family the first date was a disaster there's there's evidence for this many people will tell you disaster. Never going to go. Never going to go again. Don't tell me don't again. People are nervous. People are nervous. You didn't even sometimes deal with youngster. I've gone youngster, you know, early 20s. Sometimes before 20 youngsters, they're nervous. >> But you don't push for a second date, do you? >> I do. I always tell people that it's very important to have a second date. Even from other just make a second date. You tell the girls as well to give the guys a certain both sides. Ah, okay. >> Both. Listen, you know, we not we're here not to hurt people, right? And if people have told me, oh, well, I know it's definitely definitely by going on a second date, it's going to hurt the person even more cuz he he's thinking that I'm misleading [laughter] him. I don't know what to say. I I think it's mention I I think it's mention. At the end of the day, we have to be mention at the end of the day, we have to worry about the other person. I mean the other person is not your bash is not your bash he's still he's still he's still a person right first >> Mr. Do you ever get go and see once and you get surprised that these two people may sh [laughter] each other? >> It's happened. Yeah, sure. It's happened. Yeah. >> Not so common. [snorts] [sighs and gasps] >> Listen, you know what? I don't know the kishkas of everybody, right? What I know is what I know. And sometimes there's a reason why a certain sh goes and I thought it wouldn't go because there could be other reason underlying reasons. You never find out. You never know. I mean, sometimes I'm surprised. Most of the time not. Most of the time it's, you know. >> Yeah. Huh? So, could you >> Okay. Could you lean into that cuz I I believe there's some unspoken social scoring system in the world and obviously in the world of the world and therefore certain happen and that's it makes sense. Okay, this guy's rich, this guy's rich, this guy's prestigious this and because one there's so many elements of you know there's a social status. Am I as cool as this person? Right? Am I as rich as this person? Am I as popular as this person? This other family because it's really in it's immersion acquisition M&A at the end of the day. >> Of course. >> Um and so when you say the makes sense, could you explain what that means? >> It's ped you know it goes. >> What does that mean? You know sometimes and other would know this and a big shout out to all the out there to you all. I know what it means. I know what you feel. You put in your effort. You're putting your trying your hardest. Sometimes it's not easy. Sometimes people blame. But believe me, they need a round of applause. These I'm telling you, sometimes they're working day and night unscable hours. sometimes not for a thank you and not for a pat on the back. It's very important the beautiful beautiful what they do. really really really I would I would if I the first thing when I say see a fellow first I shake the hand well not a woman obviously but I shake his hand I say what you're doing for close this is the reb's kinder this is what the rebel wanted you know the reb said you know mashia is going to come is going to come down in a so what's the purpose of a shakan is to try and make this happen really the shakan I don't take any credit for what I do I haven't got any independent powers the gives They gives me the ideas, the thoughts. They make me think, you know, um for example, you know, sometimes I wake up in the morning before before my day and I shut the idea come to my head. Slept the whole night dreamt who knows what of before I wake up a flash of inspiration comes into my mind like that. This one, that one, this one, that one, this one, that one. Yeah. >> So, how many ideas came after you kippering? you [laughter] you sure of course a few when you're involved when you're I'm very very busy I'm very grateful to Hashem I'm very busy Shakan I take it seriously um you know we're joking around a little bit over here but really really really this it's a very important in a very serious you know you're talking about effects I'm I'm very aware of this burden um I thank Hashem every day for this that you know that Hashem you know I feel very blessed I feel really really blessed that Hashem has you know uh got me involved in this and it's not a thing I was looking for uh you know um but the point is >> so when you say makes sense could you explain that >> makes sense okay >> obviously the you're non-aval names you see one rich guy another rich guy boom it makes sense right okay this rule you're going to haveim let's talk about the rule not exception >> I want I want to I want to interject for a second it used to be when I went on co 20 years ago ago it was Goldfarb Cohen and I don't want to get blamed you know Bob Rosenfeld you know whatever all the famous popular names today >> you see co on Instagram you see no the average shock is two names I never heard of my life Smith to Gonzalez Finkeleberg to Katen Bugen Rodin and and a lot of times it's it's it's Bus and it's gay rim and it's it's kaban is very big now we're the whole entire I see people coming out of the aisle. The guys have the yamaka the size of a dime. The girl looks like she came out of I don't know Harvard 5 minutes ago. Jewish non-Jewish today where everybody so I think it's and and and here's and here's my real question. >> Should the gaz the stay together and the and the bala stay together or should we mix it all together? Now not to sound like a racist or or or you know whatever because I'm I'm not that g myself. No, because I'm just wondering myself. a guy that's a Belchuva, he became from at like 22 years old, he's not a diretori, you know, 770 your whole life. >> Yeah. >> Are they on the same page? >> There's there's many reasons. I mean, it's not again it's exception to the rule. You you find it rarely. You find it rarely. >> You find it >> it's rarely that rarely >> rarely >> rarely rarely say rarely. >> You find it rarely such a situation. It does happen from time to time. You're saying the G are not marrying the Bas >> the next generation more >> next generation >> next generation it's getting diluted out meaning um you know you know grew all over the world um you know you got people who the parents of and you know they got before they was married and they got married and they put the kids through the system and the kids are just as good as anyone else and even better even better sometimes it's getting diluted out. I I do see now that you know names are are you know are taking next generation parents by children you know it's happening it's happening it's getting diluted to that meaning and I think that um I don't think it's better or worse just it's better you know I don't I think I think it's better or worse this is this not if it's if it fits it fits >> the end of the day I feel you come to your friend so you start going with some random name. It's hard for >> for one second of feeling good, the kid should suffer for the rest of their lives. >> I'm sorry. I'm just saying it's just a social thing. Like who your kid get married to? Oh, Kakush of uh of of Malaysia. Like, huh? >> So, there's there's a country club aspect in everything. Like you you go into the New York Times, you see these marriages. John Johnson, uh you see this they still have the marriage in New York Times, >> I believe. I don't have >> from graduated from Harvard now works at Goldman Sachs married to also it's I'm saying this whole >> this whole social status game exists in every single circle >> you got many people even became they went out 30 40 years ago and the the kids went through the system and the children want to go it's becoming you know it's becoming already more mixed is becoming more mixed >> so I think the Baluva now Baluva There's a certain comfort level. I went to Shiva with this guy. I know him. I know him. Therefore, I want my kids. I marry them. I know them. I know there's no skeletons in the in the closet. The comfort level same like for like listen, everyone everyone thinks everyone wants like for like and everyone wants to do do well, right? Everyone wants to make a good sh for their children, right? Everyone wants to feel that, you know, I've been in Labavich generations. I've been in a bunch 40 50 years. I I want a good shik for my children. Good means al someone with similar >> someone like genetics >> like for like you know the best I think the best is like for like that's the best because the parents meet you know they're like very similar you know they got the same type of you know family setup the same type of you know um values like for like is the best I mean sometimes you can you know on on a rare occasion it's not like for like and that's fine it's fine you know it's not a problem um But you know everyone wants to do a good shak. No one wants everyone wants to do a good right. Everyone wishes and and and and ask Hashem please send a good. At what age do people start uh settling start opening their mind to different not so like for likes >> the cut off different to kufus right >> to be honest my wife is almost 5 years older than me >> but I got married at 28 so it wasn't like you know >> if I got married at 23 I don't think you know I was a bar mitzvah my wife was already graduating in seminary [laughter] >> so I'm I'm sure if I was 23 I would not go out with someone almost 5 years older than me. So there's some time you're like, "Okay, I'm starting another told me like this um that um you know there there's a dris and there's but two more for thou shalt not marry a guy who is 1 in shorter than the girl." And the 12th one 12th thou shalt not marry a guy who's younger than the girl a year. >> The reb was the rebel was a year younger. There you go. >> Someone another told me I could solve this 50% of the crisis overnight if if people would those two in those two commandments >> height and age >> height and age height you know some age someone >> I married I just want to say something I dated girls that were taller than me and I dated girls that were older than me >> I would think to myself like wow she's tall you know it's kash you know [laughter] I didn't she's older some of these girls had like PhDs I like they're very intellectual they're very smart you know I'm not the [laughter] I'm not the sharp I'm not the sharp tool in the shed. >> It's such a hang up. >> How am I marrying somebody that drops smarter than me? >> Well, mix up the pool and my kids hang up. You know, when someone Kanana is in the ' 90s, does it really matter that the wife is 92 and he's 91? Does it really matter? Does it really matter that age what the girl's one inch taller? People got hang up about this thing. I seriously I don't really understand it. Okay, I understand. But you know, again, so you ask about the age. >> So, you know, what what do you do? You know, >> so what age do people start getting openminded? Imagine before you got a guy who's a guy who's 26 and the girl's 21 but when he was 21 she was already mid- teens person it doesn't go so he had to wait if this is he had to wait until he was mid20s and she was early 20s simple as that >> but I believe there's clear a lot of people watching our show are probably I do believe that there's a very clear answer from the reb there's a book and the rebba says that there should not be more than a 10-year age gap between the husband and wife >> right Sure. So again I'm very well aware of this but most people most people want within 3 4 years is you know and and can be older by a few years I think four years three or four years >> they don't people don't want to hear from this they don't want to hear >> so end of the day I it seems to me you tell me you're in you're in the business um I always tell people I made one and I end up getting divorced so I I [laughter] stayed cleared and it got worse worse than divorce. But it seems like everyone has different priorities when they come to come to bat as they say in English. You know you can plump babies when you come to bet I guess cricket >> right >> everyone has one guy wants yikas one guy wants money one person wants looks what else I miss moneyas looks did I miss anything and everyone has priorities and you can't get most people can't get all three so they're going to settle for right I uh a real estate agent once told my sister who end up buying a house she's like mishi I told sister she either is going to get the location but she's not going to get parking she whole list three things, but you can't get all three. Is that the case that everyone comes to bat with different I guess people want to get what they don't have? >> I think when people are younger, they're fresh in it. They have a a shopping list and as as time goes on, unfortunately, maybe the shopping list gets gets gets shorter. Yeah. Um like we mentioned before about, you know, you said about age when when do people start changing? You know there's certain tufa you know 18 19 to 23 24 24 to 27 27 plus different tufer 30 plus mid30s so obviously you know it comes a time when I don't know what to use the correct words you know to settle for less settle you know people shouldn't settle for less they have to keep their standards you know meaning that you know we're all be they're all beautiful boys and girls right they all deserve the best of the best of the Yes, they deserve everything right. Um, you know, if they're heavy heavy standards, what you want to call it, SNER standards or learning standards or from kite standards, no one should cut their standards for them. Why should you cut standards? This is your standard. This is what you're used to. This is how you're raised. This is what you're comfortable with. So maybe maybe superolous standards, you know, I can't think of any examples exactly, but superflous, you know, things that are less less important. you you you give up on that, you know, I say think of extreme example, blue eyes. Okay, don't go for blue eyes now. You know, extreme example, but you know, some people got hang up. Blue eyes, you know, >> they want the only one blue eyes. >> I have two kids with blue eyes. I don't know how that happens, but yeah, >> someone told me Friday that people with blue eyes genetically have eye problems. >> Michelle, >> I told the guy I was trying to pitch this sponsor. I said, "Oh my gosh, you have blue eyes. You're going to look great on the show." You're always trying to convince people to come on the show. The people we Let me say that again. And this is >> for the people we want on the show. We we spend a lot of time trying to get them. And I said, "Well, you have blue eyes. You look great." He's like, "Mishi, don't tell me that people with blue eyes have eyebrows has blue eyes." >> I'm just telling >> my father told me that a pikaba the picture perfect >> like the way it's described in like and like we don't all have those criteria. I'm saying we don't all have those things. But according to like the best like a person has blue eyes. That's why the rabbi had blue eyes. I want to sponsor clap or questions. >> We could do We could do sponsors. Um, we were able to be here today because of our amazing amazing sponsors who happen to also have the best products in the entire world. >> We have Oak. >> Clap. If they were the not the best and they paid us a lot, will we still promote them? >> No, no, no. We only go for the best. Mo, the oak and oven. >> Which flavor? >> Uh, this apple cider became my favorite. There was crab apple was my favorite and now my new favorite is the apple cider. 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All of you out there that need good property insurance, casualty insurance, PNC, anything you need, you call my friend Mendel Pinson at Brooklyn Prokerage and you'll be in the right hands. Speaking of I'm on C and there's [snorts] some guy who got uh how do you say this? He was been detained by the police department quite a few times for uh nefarious behavior in 770 and he just got engaged. So I'm just for all those people have given hope [laughter] given up hope. I'm looking and see you all now. There's someone who's a really nice boy. >> See, let me ask you a question. [laughter] I have to take the gloves off. I have to take the gloves off. It's going to piss people. It's going to get people upset, but if you don't ask certain questions, >> it's just you're not doing you're not doing a service. You're not doing a service. You're not doing you're not doing a service to anybody. >> People say they demand money up front. Some people say if they don't take money up front, like you're wasting your time. How do you know you're going to take the person serious? So, I believe I'm a big capitalist guy. I believe Shatanam should say, "If you want me to take your resume, if you want me to recommend you to people, if you want to call me and ask me a million questions, you have to show that you're serious." Because if you're not serious, maybe you're not even interested in getting married. You just want to say, "I'm working with a shotgun." >> Do you charge up? >> Do you charge money up front? >> It never has happened and it never will happen. >> Wow. So, your mom is working for free. is a if you make a pay you that's >> no but until then so you can have the girl at 19 years old you can have her resume just work for 5 years she gets engaged do another you never got paid a penny in your life >> many times it's not fair you mean many times I must say that when I set people up on a date and they go on a date or two or three or four or whatever most people give something >> they do >> most people give something >> people are getting smarter >> meaning someone once told me um very early on when I was involved somebody sent me. The couple went out on quite a few dates and it didn't end up being an engagement. Somebody sent me something very respectable. Well, I wasn't expecting this. You know what's very nice of you, but it's not absolutely necessary, but you know, it's very nice. He told me like this told me something very interesting. He said, you know, just come off ly is a time to boy your muzas, your toillin. He says, I take, you know, every I take down my muza from my house. They take them to the sofa and he checks them. Wasn't that if it's kosher, he charges me. It's not kosher charged me. So, did you do anything less than than the sofa did? [laughter] So, you know, I just think it's very goes a long way. You know, everyone needs a bit of grease for the wheels along the way. Um, I don't make favoritism, you know. I treat everyone the same. everyone the same, you know, but at the end of the day, at the end of the day, you want we want to do the best for the people and the parents want the best for the kids. We have to work together as a team, right, >> Mr. M? What percent of the of the character of the family verse the kid is is important in a >> if you would have to put a pie >> of the kids are very different to the family. You mean >> let's say the parents the son is a 10 and the parents are a five >> 10 >> or the opposite >> 10 has what 10 >> overall overall scoring 10 is the highest he's a top the best this and the parents are the five versus the parents are a uh a 10 and the kids are a five what's >> wait a minute how the other side looks at that you mean >> my experience is very much you know you look the main is the kid >> not the Not the family, not the family. You know, it's very, you know, judge this, judge that. At the end of the day, your son or your daughter is going to marry their son or daughter. What's it with the family? And often there's the case with Kabad, they move to different place. Meaning, you know, okay, Kyu is full up over the right button is moving all out. Kingston, you know, um, Philadelphia, people are moving out. So mo I think a lot of the time you won't live in the next few roads to your to your in-laws or to your parents or wherever it is. So you won't see how often you see them shabas here, Shabbas there. You won't have that really much to do with the on the other side. You won't really So again, I think it is much less important and you want the good that >> Let me make it a little bit more clear. If a father and a mother are horrible people, I'M SAYING WHATEVER A GUY >> was horrible. Please elaborate horrible didn't come across any horrible people. I'm saying if a guy, let's say, doesn't get along with anybody and the one doesn't get along any with anybody and then the kid is like this amazing gem, you think people are going to be like running to do a shik with them? >> Okay, let's say the parents ran a Ponzi scheme and the whole ri they ripped off the crown for $100 million and the kid's a gem. How does that shake out in the world? >> Kid was a gem. No, >> do a Ponzi scheme. He was in he had a >> you're saying don't look at the parents because you're not going to see them that often. I say like this you know the the husband and wife learn from the husband and wife has to come together >> right >> yeah the parents it's peripheral it's peripheral it's got to be it's got to be a match has to match >> yeah I don't say people are judging obviously people are judging at the end of the day we humans we you know we have >> that people learn from their parents they learn from the parents their mid you mentioned the first thing the most important thing is midas where you learn midas from the street or from your house >> well ideally firstly from the house but you No kids are not silly. They go after go to Sam. So Biffka didn't learn from MA because he was a terrible guy and she was a big sad. So you're saying from the office he should learn only look at the kids. Don't look at the parents at all. >> You know there will come a time there will come a time your children will get older teenage mid- teens late teens. They're going to reckon they're going to they're looking at you your m you know husband and wife they look at the parents right starts about 12 13 mitzvah mitzvah they go to shaw my dad looking in is he talking they're not they're smart kids are very very smart when they get older they go to yeshiva usually have very nice over there and they say hey there's something else out there And they make a decision. Am I going to be a Zoe? Am I going to be a Zoe? Am I going to take how I was raised, all those good things, how I was raised, or am I going to find better good things, more good things I see outside. And kids are very smart. They sus their parents out very quickly at a very young age. Don't pull the ball out of any of your children's eyes. They know exactly what's flying. >> So the apple fall far from the tree or it doesn't fall far from the tree. You got nurture and you got nature. Listen, I'm not a psychiatrist. Yeah. Yeah. You got, you know, I'm not that old, but I've lived a few years and got a lot of experience in life. And you got nurture, you got nature. Everyone wants to increase themselves, better themselves. You know, the whole of the whole of history is about increasing yourself, bettering, bettering yourself. The fact is that, you know, at the end of the day, we're all humans and people have everyone has a horror and sometimes things get the better of others. You know you child a teenager a guy or a girl in their 20s have to decide what am I going to do I want this better for me that better for me and you know the parents raised that child with love and the child will see you know the child will work out not the child the young adult will work out what do I want for myself >> I don't want to come across as being very uncsensitive it happens to the best people and I remember a rebi one time telling us that in the order of garis gon comes before kadush because you have to know in every marriage when you go in you give it your best but there's a possibility that you'll have to get divorced the Torah it's a mitzvah to give a get of course nobody should ever hold back a get god forbid but it's it's an it's a possibility the Tory tells you that if it doesn't work out you know you separate and professionally beautifully and show the kids love and I strongly encourage when people get divorced they should do it very respectfully and have a relationship with with the spouse and that you're there to help the children etc Statistically in our communities, two questions. Do children from divorced families have a harder time finding? And two, a little bit uncomfortable to ask. Statistically, do they have a higher chance of getting divorced as well? >> Again, my apologies if I hurt anybody's feelings by asking this question. >> The second question to answer, I don't know because you know, I don't know what happens after often. an adult here. Find outm everyone has a beautiful life. Um the first question was >> do people have a harder time finding from from a divorced family? You know it's definitely a concern and people are concerned people have concerns but the cream will always rise to the top which means that you know some people know forever reason you know some people started off life a little bit disadvantaged whether that could be a broken family broken marriage or other problems but the cream will always rise to the top. >> What does that mean? The best people even someone with challenge I think even people with challenges they often do very bad they see a lot of lot of you know they do very well in life because you know you orphans >> they're they're >> right they have a special special connection >> and they've been through a lot of heartache a lot of challenges and they rise to the top so you know where there's a famous saying whatever doesn't kill Whoever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. >> Song on the radio. >> Such a thing. Whoever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. >> But how does that shake out in social world? >> You know, >> you're saying that they could could come up stronger. The goal come up more messed up also. So it it swings both ways. >> You obviously got statistics like that. [laughter] You got statistics like that. But you know it's it's concern. It's like everything is a concern like you know is you know God forbid. You know you got you know someone can be in trouble. >> Let's talk practically. you go on co you're not going to find a wealthy prestigious family marrying some guy with a divorced parents especially is that I will tell you >> I mean I think we should do look down you know I just realized Mr. I do want to do a study go all the and we'll do scoring points rich looking and see how things match up [laughter] and see how when you say shookim we're going to give a a real number rating >> no we'll match co a picture cuz now co has pictures by the aisle we could you know there's things we could see there >> what we'll tell you what we'll tell you what [laughter] we'll tell you >> and we'll figure out exact algorithm AI will never figure out that we can call the >> I don't call it a shidd crisis. I call it a shidd catastrophe. There's boys and girls mid 20s, late 20s, early 30s, mid-30s, late 30s. But you can't tell me that those people are in the late 20s, early 30s, mid-30s, all from divorced parents. No, >> not at all. >> Not at all. >> So, so the answer to your question, yeah, people, children of divorced parents get married. Should parents feel guilty they're doing something wrong if their kids are not getting married? >> Guilty is the wrong word. Not guilt. Listen, it's a like everything in life everything. You know, everyone has to make is you got to do stuff. You can't say okay my my kid now 22 23 24 he's on the market. Okay, wait for phone calls flooding. It's going to come flooding. Got to do you've got to make effort. And that effort is different for everybody else. Somebody has to make a lot of effort. So, a little bit of effort, but you have to you can't just expect it just to come out like that. And and in a way, the truth is that's come from the left field and sometimes unexpected. That's also true. >> How often should the parents nudge you? Three times a day or how? >> No. This [clears throat] is again this is very important. [laughter] >> I just give you I just give you some idea. Yeah. What is annoying Mr. Mitt just people should know how when does annoying lying draw something and I feel for cuz I'm a parent myself I have skin in the game. Yeah. Still got a couple of girls to go forim. Right. I'm not just a shatan who's in their 70s 80s. All the kids is married off already. Uh you know I'm doing it for two hours on a Sunday or once a month on a Sunday for an hour or two. I got skin in the game. I understand from a parents point of view as well from a shaton's point of view. Now the thing is like this you have to do right just doesn't happen by itself and the question is how much you do now just to give you some some form of I'm a very busy um just to give you some sort of idea I've got over 4,000 contacts on my phone um I have between every day between 75 and 100 messages me a day on my WhatsApp just for now some people do contact you a lot a lot um I'm not a real person I'm not a rude person by nature I try to deal everyone very nicely um I try to help everybody at the end of the day it's I see it's at the end of the day I try to help everybody and I generally have a feeling that I want to make I know what it means means as a parent. >> So what are you trying to say? >> Yeah. Yeah. You know, >> they shouldn't call you every three shouldn't call you three times. >> Once a month is fine. >> Once a month. >> Once a month is fine. >> What other things could they do besides call you? Any other tips people could do? >> They could send they could send a zel a wire. PayPal. Okay. PayPal >> be on their mind. >> PayPal doesn't hurt, right? >> There's a lot of people a lot of people there's a lot of people can help themselves. Really? Really? Really? People can help themselves. First of all, first of all, okay, three tips. >> I have a I have a WhatsApp group for Yeah. I post everyday resumes. I have over 400 parents on my WhatsApp group. >> Can we say the number so people could join? >> Yeah. >> We'll put on the notes. We'll put in the notes. Show notes. >> Yeah. Sure. Now, I have a WhatsApp group. It's over 400 parents on my WhatsApp group. And I post every day resumes. >> Pictures or not pictures? >> Yeah. Photos. >> Always pictures. Yeah. >> Always >> because >> what are you hiding? You're hiding and then it's not good. At the end of the day, I understand it. Don't be me wrong. I understand what it means having your photo out there everywhere. I understand what it means. I have I've got children and I had children and I know what it means. But at the end of the day, it's no secret that your child is in anyway. It comes to a certain age. What's the secret? And and I get it and it wasn't like that 10 20 years ago and it became a new thing. Photos photos photos and some people is against it. And I'm again to a certain I'm also against it. Meaning, you know, passion, you know, it's not nice to have a girl's photo for everyone. You know, once you send it, it goes over the whole world. But this is 2026. That's how she look happy. >> If you want to get married, you have to get out there. >> If someone doesn't put a photo, people just skip, skip, skip, skip. That's it. That's my experience. People skip. >> But certain photos, I'm sure people skip also. >> Yes. But the point the point is that I I get it and and it hurts me. I understand it. I get it. But people want a photo. At the end of the day, all boss dom, you know, at the end of the day, people want a photo. So very important. >> So they can get photo call you once a month. Get a good photo. >> Come on the WhatsApp group. >> AI if necessary, right? Photoshop if necessary. >> Created AI to help us. Yeah. Um, get a good photo. Come on the WhatsApp group. Post your son or daughter's resume and photo on the WhatsApp group. And don't just stay passive. You know people passive. Yeah. Yeah. Every day I post but I don't don't hear from them. Don't No. Lookive proactive. Look through. Look, check. Search every day. Do contact me. I like this one. I like this one. >> Here's where things get a little bit uncomfortable and sticky. >> People go to Shaw. They see a family. They know them from the community. >> They think they're similar. They know they have a daughter. They have a son. They have a friend call up that family and ask them if their daughter or son would go out with their daughter and son, >> whatever. And they don't know how to like they don't know how to like comfortably say like, "We're not interested." >> And then if they ignore it, it's bad. If they give an answer, it's not true. They misread it. They misunderstood it. I speak to people and they're like, "I was friendly with that family for 20 years and that's what they think of us and that's what they think of my kids." Is there a proper professional way to say not for us? There's >> can you know the best way people are watching they need an answer from you >> the best way is to say it's not for me >> just not for me >> yeah be honest from don't let people you know I've had >> say the reason >> no don't say the reason why I say the reason don't say the reason it's not for us it's not >> m how often do you have to set people straight some guy I'm just going to be very like crass the guy's poor neb has 10 kids in a one-bedroom apartment the kids dress in rags and they're trying to find some Rich, pretty like like how often do people get totally misaligned of where they stand in the market? >> Is is again is extreme. >> Is it often or not often? I'm just curious. >> Extreme case. It is an extreme case. But you got sometimes you have to direct them to a shot coach. You know, a shot coach. >> How do you tell them you guys you're just not in that? You stay in your lane. So that [laughter] so hard to tell that to somebody >> cuz I think that's part of it. Two families know each other. They think they're friends. Meanwhile, the next guy thinks >> they're acquaintances. They're acquaintances and [laughter] our friends. >> One guy thinks, you know, he's the next >> You got it. Sometimes. >> How often do people shoot for the stars and they're be shooting for >> Not so so much. >> Another section 8. >> Not so so much. Not so so much. I mean, some people need a lot of help and a lot of work. Again, I'm not a shotgun coach. I'm a shotgun. Some people need a lot of help and a lot of work. And I direct them shotgun coach. If I really think tell you, bro, you're not you're stay in your lane. What are the >> You know what I try to be as polite as nice as possible. You know, I'm not here to hurt people. I'm not here to put people down. Obviously, there's a nice way to say things. You would tell them you you say in a nice sensitive way the words you said. >> How do you say >> you can say, "Listen, I think you need help with the XYZ." >> Yeah. And I I'm not qualified to help you. Here's a phone number of a shot coach specially specially trained for this. He can help you. And they tuck >> Oh, to give you reality check. >> They tuck a help. Yeah, help. >> They say you're by the way, you should not be shooting for that cuz you guys are not qualified. >> I don't say it in that way. I don't say it in that way. I let the shot give someone else break up the news that [laughter] no one that's their job. What what's a chucking coach there for to guide people a shot coach within one conversation can know exactly where the person's holding and what he's what he's doing what he's thinking and again in the most sensitive manner will explain to the person using the correct words that I can't find that type of vocabulary. Use the correct words to speak to the person to set him up not to but to set him set himself up in reality. >> Mr. They should make an AI application that says what are you shy to and you put in your income >> uh picture you know income what else clappy your yus your DNA the looks and you put it and then you see where you >> I want to I want to cover a few things are we run I know we're going to run low on time let me ask you a question >> you have people regular Tom Dick and Harry's nothing like everybody's special open air regular you know it was nothing major girl regular run-of-the-mill again with all sensitivity whatever run-of-the-mills 20, 21, 22, they're engaged, they're married, they're 30, they have five kids, they're running around, they're picking up kids, pushing carriages, they have money, they don't have money, they by mistake found the job, like regular run-of-the-mill I believe because in there was no brains. YOU JUST JUMP RIGHT INTO THE OCEAN. SUICIDAL, just jump right in. The people that go into jump right in. I find the people that have the easiest getting married are like not the most intelligent people sometimes because what I'm seeing I was in show yesterday. I see guys and girls 35, 38, 40 years old, the ones that are single creme de creme, the overwhelming majority, the top earners, the most beautiful, good-looking guys, beautiful girls. And I believe I'm going to get such heat walking down the street. I'm probably going to need security. I believe that they're too smart. That means did they really never get any offers? From 22 to 40, they didn't get any offers. Maybe they like and and I can't blame them. They're they're doing it rational. They're being normal. They they're looking at the cards and they're saying, "Yeah, no. Maybe maybe somebody has to like just say like jump in, get married." >> Like you live in Stanford Hill, they do Bashau style. Basho style. You just show up, you get married 30 minutes later. How does Can you tell us? No. people. Is it the is the reason why they're the smartest and most prettiest are >> I think my brother should do the show >> because they do it that they they think about it too much. >> I I tell you something. There's a lot to be said about positive people. Positive people will find positive people and they're less fussy. You know, people are very highly intelligent, very smart, they got high standards. It's hard positive people match positive people and it's fantastic. Yeah, I see it myself like what you said people with very smart a lot going for them and you know they're still single. Um >> so what should they do? Drop all their standards just get married the next resume that comes on their desk arms two legs. >> So what is the answer? What do we tell them? >> Give up. You try you try. You try you don't give up. I never give up on anybody. Don't give up. It's going to happen. It will be. It will be. Isn't where you can use all all the uh zakan soulas the rebba the rebba said many things you know is written down brought down many answers from the rebba what should somebody do to enhance their >> go there's the rebba says about amuk >> I didn't hear that but the rebba says about making a there's many things the rebba said over there um you know there's I think there's bam they have a program um where they match people singles with couples that are married without kids. I pray for you, you pray for me. I believe this is already exist in you know you think about it. Tucker makes sense. Um never give up. Never you know you know your salvation can come in a blink of an eye. Someone can be that can happen. >> What's the biggest disaster story you've been involved in without saying names? >> Like funny crazy stories. I don't know. I can tell you one one of very interesting to that names obviously you know about [clears throat] the got ways to make you married if theisha wants you to be married to this person at this such and such a time it will happen and I give you an example um without names so um I was on my WhatsApp group and I work very quick you know I've got loads hundreds of people I'm deliver work very quick I post resumes every morning I try to do it all quick quick quick And um one parent had their son on my group and then this was a mother and her sister-in-law heard about my group from her sister-in-law and she wanted to speak to me and put them on the group. So she contacted me. Okay. What's your son? Sam's resume. Let's talk. Let's chat. What's it all about? What's she wanted to know what's the group's all about? What's in it to tell? How does it work exactly? So, the first sister-in-law had her son's resume on my group and I posted it regularly. Um, and they got they had the same surname. Sister-in-laws had the same surname and they also got the first same first name. Let's call them Sora. Both called Sora. So, I um spoke to the second sister-in-law. We spoke. Was it I don't really want to expose my son at this stage. He's still quite young. I don't Okay, to hate you. Don't have to force you to come in the group. Yeah. If you really considered, you're always welcome to contact me again. No problem. One morning posting quick quick quick and WhatsApp you got about a centimeter gap between every single person's name. So obviously these people they got the same first name and the same surname and they're right above the other. Right? So without thinking you know I got distracted mama clicked and I put the wrong son's name on the group by mistake that afternoon another parent saw it was made that's it right it's a mistake I I generally made mistake it was my mistake no maisha did it if want you married certain certain age, certain time, certain second. They even say by by the by you know the runs over 5 minutes, 10 minutes late, whatever they're 20 minutes late. This is the exact time this couple has to get married >> on a date. Who knows? >> To the second. Yeah. >> The boy or the girl? Usually. >> What's your experience? >> The boys usually get to get to the stage first. Not always, but the boys are usually ready. The boys are usually ready first. I don't know why. More keen. I don't know what the boys are usually ready first and the girl can be one or two dates behind type of thing you know the book can ready the boy's parents tell me okay he's ready to to propose I'll speak to the other side okay ready to first of all ask does ask the boys would you like me to tell the other side is that other side that your son is ready to propose yes okay tell the other side ready to propose okay we need one or more two okay I want to date so okay most of >> who says no you more women men or guys or girls >> it's really a mix >> definitely girls 5050 makes definitely never I' never worked out statistically but plenty of boys say no >> plenty >> I saw a statistic that more than 50% of women initiate divorce maybe 70% something like that so I'm wondering if that translates into dating also in 12 girls definitely feel more vulnerable that's for sure in about being vulnerable when someone's going on one date the second date the third date ah it's a bit of fun go here go there [clears throat] in the hotel lobby. It goes to the third, four, fifth day, let's go bowling, goes to the sixth, seventh, let's go axe throwing you [laughter] whether they play games busters. >> I know the acting happens 10 years after marriage. [laughter] >> I was shocked when when I first heard this for the first time, I was shocked. What you taking axe throwing? What? You can't find anything better to do axing. >> Anyway, it's a thing people do it, >> right? Um so yeah so the point I'm trying to say is that um >> girls say no more than men or not necessarily >> ah so you know they go on a few dates now when it gets serious by the fifth date if it's if it's if it's gone to five dates is already something it's already gone I always say you know then you got the beginner stage of dating the intermediate stage of dating the end stage of dating one date one to date three beginning date four to six seven intermediate beyond seven something. Yeah, don't mess around. It's not a game. It's We're not dating for fun. We're dating to get married. I always tell the singles and the parents is dating to get married. Not about having a good time. Yeah. You have a nice time. Of course. >> I have a Frencher, a man of mean. He told me right before he made sure to buy a lot of sponsorships, donations. He did a >> I think he has one kid. >> One kid. He did. He told me he did a major flash of money. um campaign when his kids were is that something you recommend and it seems to be there's pressure on parents to uh do things like that renovate their house to show that >> yeah [laughter] yeah I have I have come across it before and if it's within someone's means I mean you know meaning they was going to renovate anyway year or two years later you know it's still to do it I mean people you know it gives a impression you know they say that you know how you you know how someone's smartly dressed, he's put together, it makes an impression, right? And so this and the family and the siblings, it makes an impression. Are you giving a false impression? Not really. Uh I think everyone wants to show themselves. You know, why do we when we go to a wedding, we put on the best clothes? Why just wear? Because you want to make something. It's it's you want something special, right? But um I think that everyone should show their best side. The the the parents should show their best side. The family should show their best side. Singles need to show the best side without doubt. And if that could be a little bit superficial, okay, it's also fine. >> Have you heard about these repeat daters? >> Serial daters. >> Serial daters. Like they're like they like there's like these girls. I heard they have a reputation. They like dressing up nice, putting on makeup, getting winded and dine, getting picked up in a fancy car, going out to eat, going to lounges. I hear they take guys, they string them along seven, eight, nine, 10 dates, and they say, "Oh, we're not feeling it." They start the next guy, the next guy. They do. What's your question? They do this for decades. What's your question? Should girls like if if a girl's dated like 94 guys in like a four-year period, does does that make her like a repeat offender? >> At what point do you drive them as a client, Mr. Mitt? [laughter] >> You think you're going to be the lucky guy that's going to score? I'm saying you're playing the lottery. >> What hell should get 94 dates? [laughter] Um, some people struggle to get a few dates. The point is like this that you know you you have people playing the system you know a very small small small percentage play the system I don't know if they intention [laughter] I heard I heard names intention >> I heard names >> no what's their intention >> 20 guys said they all dated that girl >> you know you know some guys you know before they get engaged go to date 20 30 girls I mean it's it's ridiculous think about it it's really ridiculous we said before about you know they meet once or twice parents are in the next room, give an answer half an hour, an hour later. >> Do you advise it? You think Habbat should sign? >> I don't think statistic it works for them. Meaning I don't think statistically statistically there's any think worse or better. There's not more divorces. Maybe there's less divorces. I don't know. But they they have a certain way of life. have, you know, the setup with the with the parents and the Reb and the aunts and uncles and all living close together and they got a big support system and, you know, the first year they go and eat by their mother's house, every supper, you know, it's it's it's very different to Kabad. Every they eat every night by their parents, >> one week here, one week there, one week by Shabbas. They don't make Shabbas for a year until the kid, you know, cuz >> you just mentioned before that the parents don't make a difference. you live somewhere else. But if you're eating dinner every night, you better, [laughter] >> you know, you must understand, you know, I don't and maybe people can let me know what happened. You know, you know, was this like labage 20, 30 years ago? I mean, you know, when did it happen in Kabad? Was it ever bashure once or twice or was it it can't be always be 6 8 10 15 dates? It obviously developed over dates, you know. >> I don't know. My parents got married 55 years ago. They went on a few dates. >> I said they were a band. They did dates or shows. >> No, I think it was even less. not even of a show. I think they like they did but I think they like knew like it was like done behind like >> I mean you know it's >> the reband and the rebbit like they were destined for each other or >> acquisition >> they say the they say that the happened like a few ago it was already decided >> right so you know there's many things that they're doing well which maybe dropped or it phased out I don't know exactly when but I I can't believe in the 1960s and 70s that you know boy was going out on 15 dates to act throwing I mean you know it's changed >> after seven dates What's the likelihood of them closing a deal? >> Average. It's average again. It's very average now. >> Seven dates. >> Between six and eight dates. >> Hold on. After seven dates, what's the chances they're going to get engaged? Seven. What say? Six or seven dates. >> Yeah, it's high. >> High. 80%. >> Can a bit less? >> 90. >> No. No. No. High. Not so high. >> Uh, if someone goes to 10 12 dates and then don't get engaged, I'm very surprised. Very, very surprised. >> How many singles today are in the Kabad database? >> Many thousands. >> Many thousands. like only the older ones are in the database even the young ones >> from all ages 18 to beyond but yeah there is I mean there can I mean >> is there is there a crisis or is it just for the >> wor said it's a catastrophe >> I always say like this I always say like this is is hard again please God everyone should find the very easily it's hard and we wanted to talk about the parents the parents side um >> I think the parents are making the problems >> [snorts] >> I don't think so. >> I hear boys and girls that don't even know what's going on. They want to go out with people. The parents ruin it every time. >> Okay, I'll address I'll address that. Now, up until when a boy is when he first started to about 25, his mother, his father is in charge of when he gets to 26 27, he's taking over. The girl also a bit, you know, later stage. Um you can say that the the the parents are filtering the the you know obvious >> they're doing but but sometimes they're doing selfish what's for them not for their kids >> but you know they they mean it lish >> they mean it they're ruining it >> like what please elaborate collaborate please lean into that explain >> I think parents sometimes have their own selfish biases they want certain things for their kid that the kid might not want for themsel >> like example give us example >> they want the kid to the girl to live locally so if they're from a kasha family out of town they don't want to lose their kid. They say, "I'll see my kid once every two years." >> You definitely, you definitely got biases. >> Maybe the girls that the sons want to go out with or the daughters want to go out with the guys, they don't like them. The way they look, they don't like their parents. So now it's about them scoring a win, not their kids scoring a win. >> You know, you know, like this, you know, again, you know, depends how what age. If you got a very young daughter, say I talk about daughters because you know talking about girl the cliche girls are more sensitive you know um vulnerable you know you got an 18 20 22 year old girl you want to protect her you know you're a parent and she's due to protect her till she gets married and her husband has to protect her um you know you want to protect her from all things so you want her to see every you know resume every comes along even you think is completely out outlandish idea So you feel to them it's understandable to a certain extent again depends what what the age is when she's holding is she very firm is you know some people you know some people are more robust some girls boys when they're young they're more robust less less from you know so they can handle it a bit more yeah again you know kabad is all levels >> I had this mother call me out of state an hour and a half now remember I have four young children I work three jobs an hour and a half of my time is really really torture. When people call me, can I speak to me? I'm like, just send me a voice note like 60 seconds. I don't have time. I I be I don't have time. I gave her about an hour and a half of my time. She her daughter's like 37 years old. She's going on and on and on about and the crisis and she's explaining to me what she needs for her daughter and whatever. She's telling me about this guy. Is he from enough? Does he do ham? Does he do Krishma which whatever. Anyways, I call up and now that I already spent an hour and a half, now I really feel like I have skin in the game. Like I didn't want to feel like I wasted my time. I call up a friend of mine, you know, who's got his finger on the pulse. HE SAYS, "WHAT?" HE'S LIKE, "THE GIRL'S not from she's [laughter] not from the mother mother's a nerd weirdo. She lives. She's in fantasy land." Whatever. She's like, "The girl doesn't keep shabas." She's like, "She doesn't work. You [laughter] don't need nobody home. LIKE AN HOUR AND A HALF. I will never get back in my life." Like whatever. >> You have a good story to tell on the podcast. >> Ah, story is a nightmare. It's not a story. It's like she's not from. So you have these like parents that like forget about expectations. They're they're on another planet. They're on the moon. >> Listen, I don't come across that much. It's an extreme example. Um, you know, again, you you know, you do deal with some parents and, you know, they they try to describe their children's meat to the best of their ability and obviously they're biased and, you know, they can exaggerate, you know, and not duff like the example you gave is is is a very very severe example, but you can go, you know, a lot of parents think their children are much more from than reality is. And uh, you know, it could be going on for a number of years and so the parents a bit out of touch. You know, often there's a case they're out of touch. We wanted to speak about the pressure on parents, you know, for the older singles. I wanted to say first off that, you know, if someone's in shim and they got a boy and girl who's, you know, mid20s, late 20s, early 30s, mid-30s, there's nothing wrong with the family. There's nothing wrong with the parents. It's not a fault on the parents. There's not a fault on the family. This is just bashet. It's bashet. However, how much it hurts, this is a bashet. There's nothing you could do about it. Yeah, dolas and bears's help. I just wanted to mention something you know um I did come across before that you know there was a single in the family and and all the other sim siblings was married and it particularly worked out that this particular single was having a hard time. So unbeknown to the single the brothers the sisters the parents the the the the spouses of the tatim they had how they wrote off to complete the whole I don't know how often it was once a week or something like that would say to him a whole safer to for this particular single time yeah got engaged so you know the parents don't feel abandoned don't give up there's nothing wrong with you >> I heard that there was a girl like 32 in my or Pomona and she was not getting a shid they'd call different rabbana mashiam how to make a better they said buy her a really fancy outfit like a really drop deadad stunning outfit nice heels get her some nice makeup and every night send her to a popular wedding hall every night send her to a popular wedding hall to go there people see her h you already 30 what are you doing whatever the girl didn't drive so they hired a taxi driver she went to a wedding every night for 6 months. She got engaged to the taxi driver. [laughter] >> So, you never know how it's going to work. >> Good That's perfect. >> Mr. Bits, we mentioned so many different mileas of men and ladies. What about looks? We didn't mention looks. How uh how does looks uh valued in the >> Yeah, it's a great point system. It's a great question. >> There's unspoken point system. There's there's a famous saying, you know, one man's meat is another man's poison, right? So, it's subjective, but I I think I know what you're getting at. Um, I think at the end of the day, you know, when someone's young, someone's keen, someone's immature, it's all about looks and you get older, you get mature and things change. You know, people's minds change. It's not so much about looks, it's about midas, you [clears throat] know, there's a famous joke what goes on. He said, when one person came to a ro and says, you know, I'm looking for my my daughter. So what should I look out for? He said you have to look out for five things. It's an old joke. Maybe you know this joke. Look out for five things. So the father says to okay what is it? First thing midas. Okay. Second thing midas. Third thing midas. Fourth thing midas. Fifth thing midas. That is it. Nothing else exists. Midas. That's it. Nothing else exists. You're looking for looks blond. Somebody told me and again it's a it's a quote there's no such thing as ugly people only ugly minds. Listen at the end of the day you know we have to get our children married you know superficial look superficial someone gets old baby here at the end of the day when someone's young you know you get it you get it someone you know you get it but I always tell people it's about maturity you know sometimes the boy or girl is immature and it can be sometimes a boy can be 25 and still can be immature and a girl, you know, we know that girls mature quicker than guys, right? But it's all about maturity at the end of the day. I think it's about maturity. Uh, a guy once told me, a secular Jewish guy, he owns a cigar company, Alec something. And you know, successful Florida guy, he says, "My all you need in a is a healthy boy and a healthy girl and they can figure it out." >> You said similar. You said >> Yeah. Yeah. that it's like this, you know, it's like this, you know, sometimes people are very complicated. They're too sophisticated. You got too sophisticated. When someone's too sophisticated, you get this often when people get older, late 20s, early, they become too sophisticated. You know, you must understand as well, I always tell people like this, you know, start your children took as early as possible because every year the pool is getting smaller. You know I estimate every year the kitter is going 15% every year. So by the time someone's you know you got a kitter a club put all the kittas you know of of the whole America the whole world of labavich age groups. Yeah. >> It's getting smaller every year. People is dropping off 15% or more every year. So by the time someone's 25 >> it's a much smaller pond. But some someone's 30 small but some someone's in their 30s minuscule get them married young obviously you know if they're not mature enough no but you know you know your children better than any shatan does if they're ready mature again you have this thing as well you know I think this I my experience is you find this more with the mothers very protective over the kids over their boys you know girls yeah but my son my son my son you know very protective no one's good enough for them. No one will be good enough for them. So again, reality check. Reality check is that you know go for try. What's the worst thing? So it doesn't work out. Better than not trying. But then before you know it, five years is gone. >> My brother told me the day I finished I was 22 whatever. He said get married tomorrow. I said why? He says, "You don't understand. Right now, you finish the system. You're popular. Blah blah. You don't have a dollar to your name. You don't have a career. You have a job, nothing, whatever." He says, "Any millionaire, any shriak, any big rough, any place, anybody, they're not expecting anything from you. You're going to say, "Hey, you're going to kyo for a year, you know, whatever." He says, "Five years from now, either you better be a big dian or a big millionaire or I just I'm a loser. What What have you been doing the last five years?" >> So, I think that a lot of people are nervous. jump in when you got nothing to look. Is Is that what you tell your clients? >> I would say like this. I mean, listen, no one expects a guy fresh out from achieving his hand, he's got nothing else. You know, a girl girls are much more accomplished. They usually have a degree or two, postgraduate degree and you know, they're already earning and sometimes middle income. Yeah. you know they have good jobs and the boy um is changing because as we said before the opportunity is less and less and people you know you know coming out from and to go on much earlier you know it used to be 23 24 now they're doing at 22 you know they want to go somewhere they sometimes combine this with you know to cut off another year um so yeah obviously someone's ready you know your kid you'd sit them down. You have a proper heart to heart, a proper mature conversation with them. And if they're ready, they're ready. Don't delay. If they if they're not ready, yeah, for sure not. 6 months, a year, two, whatever is necessary. If they're ready, don't delay. Go for it. Would they wish to help? If I call somebody up tomorrow, random guy I haven't spoken to in 10 years, and I say, "I have an opportunity for you to make $27,000. Everybody's going to pick up my phone call. Everybody's going to give me the time of the day." Why is it that at 40 years old I try to get involved in 20 different people's should I find that most of the time they don't take you serious they say oh call my mother call my uncle call my cousin if I said I can make you $27,000 tomorrow they wouldn't say call my mother call my uncle call my cousin >> second of all the one I made the one I made I look at it like oh my god the biggest miracle in the world my wife and I made one successful if not for that one I would never even make a single phone call now because I saw that one out of a million at work. And second of all, I had a shiddok story where somebody I was involved for years trying to make them a shiddok and they had three criterias and years later they married somebody that was the exact opposite of every single thing they told me they wanted. So I feel like double burnt out. One, people don't take you serious. Second of all, they end up the people that they marry are not even what they, >> you know, that's disconnect gravitas. >> I'm sorry. >> Gravitas. It means someone has got holding of something. You know has got a certain uh was it Kashivas? It's got something you know it's something is a name a well-known shakan. >> Yeah. >> When a well-known shatan offers your son for your for your son or daughter because offered me offered me what what I'll take you seriously. Ifmo schmo from down the road offered ah who you thinking who you think. So that's where holds a bit more you know a bit more [clears throat] I mean and should be it should be that's for sure without doubt without saying um yeah you're quite right but there are a lot of friends and family do make a lot of do make a lot um do they finish it to the end usually gets handed over to the you know they have an idea but keep me out of it this is my but keep me I'm not going to be able to go keep me out of it so that's when a comes in and the has got the ability and the knowledge and the worth for all to to um you know to make it to make it happen if it's Bash it will happen but you're quite but don't give up no definitely don't give up because it kan it can be >> I heard that there's stories with the rebba and other as well where people got married they didn't have children for years and the rebba would ask did you pay the shin >> like if you don't pay the shhat it's a uh it's a very big problem so you're saying most people do pay but it's similar to like when I hired to give my my have bunch of sons give them like to ask them how to pay, they're not comfortable, whatever. >> Here, we're not discussing a particular, we're just discussing it on a podcast. What's the going rate for a where you got both sides, you were involved with both sides, you walked them through the entire dating process, helped them, you worked hard, you got them took, maybe you even they went through different until the one that worked. Now they want to pay you for your hard work. Like, what's the going rate? That's today. Listen, I would say like this, you know, on the match website, you've got bunch of over there, all listed. All the tariffs over there. You can see a tariff. >> Oh, they write a fee. >> They write whatever charges. Uh yeah, that's probably around $2,000 each side. >> Each side. >> $1,800. $2,000 each side. Um that's normal ballpark. Um I would say like this you know I haven't come across you know they talk about shutting girl as the most cautious of guilt. I've never ever come across that you pay the butcher oh yeah cautioner and guilt. Yeah you pay the you know pay for a car. Yeah caution of guilt. You've ever heard it before that the shopping girl is the most caution of guilt. >> Guilt. No >> you've never heard this before. >> I didn't make it up. >> In America it's not maybe such a popular term. >> Okay. So the fact is like this and the rebba said pay the properly and on time the min is to pay but by the engagement yeah by the vault. Now the thing is like this canal kenyu there's a lot of weddings happening in kabad. Yeah, the wedding halls are chucker block. Booked, booked, booked. You know how wedding cost nowadays? >> We know there's a package now you can do for 30,000. >> I saw that podcast. Yeah, 30,000. >> The cheapest probably. >> It's a fortune. 30,000 for every kid. Can you imagine someone's got 10 kids, 12 kids? >> It's a mortgage. >> It's a fortune, right? And then you're going to skimp on the shot. >> Put it into perspective a little bit. >> We forgot to talk about this painting cloud. You want to talk about it? Mushy and I are both uh art dealers. So, we have a joint venture in this beautiful painting. It's 6 feet tall uh wide. So, the way I knew if it was really 6 feet, I put my had Moshi stand next to it and Moshi was only like an inch or two tall or so. It's six feet by about three three and a half feet tall. Gorgeous gorgeous um painting on canvas and it's like >> well on canvas >> acidic dancing. She's a extremely popular artist. She's really good Canadian. Uh she has beautiful galleries and this piece is only $5,000 and um >> it's a it's a good shias >> or if you want to bribe the shot you could buy it and we'll gift it to the shot and then he'll have you in mind. >> Or also if you want to show off that you're you know you're me you're a family of of depth and artistic creativ appreciation less than two weeks away. >> Exactly. >> This should be this should be in your home. You call me or my uh we'll work out the deal and um we'll have it delivered. It was a beautiful painting. >> How do you how did you end up making your first? >> Brilliant question. >> It's a really good question, you know. Um, so being in London, you know, amongst my peers in London, we were just discussing, you know, with my peers, children of age, it's hard. It's hard, you know, a >> name like MIT. It's not a strong brand. You're at a disadvantage >> then. No. Yes. Now >> what >> then? No. Sorry. >> Oh >> yes. Now yes. >> Now it's a good brand. [laughter] >> Um the thing is like this. >> Mitch is a kabad name. >> No. The family legend has it there is for Mets >> town of town of Mets >> Germany. >> It was France. France Germany. Depends what what war you in what the b the board was changing all the time. Sometimes France sometimes Germany. [snorts] And also family Latin was also more aesthetic met anyway >> is mitz means juice >> in Hebrew. >> So like the juice like the you know >> take the juice. >> Yeah. >> Anyway the point is we were saying before about >> your first >> ah so in London a few of my peers got together. We're trying to brainstorm what to do. It's not easy you know London is like it might as well be on a different planet. Yeah. America wants America Cran Heights. America Cran Heights. So we got to do something. We have to do something about this. So I had I spoke with a few friends and we say let's start a a WhatsApp WhatsApp uh >> group and uh at the beginning it was UK European you know but people heard about it. It got very very successful. So I made that first within of starting the group. Ah, month later, six weeks later, first was >> beginner's luck. >> Yeah, it was it was like >> years ago, >> huh? >> How many years ago? >> About seven years ago. >> Around seven years ago. >> We Googled you. You have a lot of awards for being a very popular. You you've done a lot of If you made five, we wouldn't bring you on the show. You've done dozens and dozens and dozens of I couldn't just say. >> I thought you were doing it 35 years. You're only doing it seven years. >> Yeah. >> So, you're hot. You're like right off the press. >> I really feel blessed. I feel blessed. Seriously, I mean this this, you know, when you make a shak, you're on a high for 3 days. It's fantastic. You make a sh I got a couple going to the oil tomorrow. Another couple. First one of this new year. Um when you make a shik, you're on a high. It's like a drug. You're on a high. You got to do more. You got to do more. And you feel great. You feel you got a spring in your step. You feel great. They come down a little bit after but you know you making dyus and then n months later year later you see on co one of the other baby made you in this what could be better than that that's what the wants >> the fear of the sales rejection is very hard like why didn't someone just call their friend and this everyone's afraid of of hearing the no I don't know the you This is, you know, this is part of life. You know, maybe we we uh, you know, wrap our children around with cotton wool a bit too much and we don't give them the reality of life. And obviously, you know, we're age sufficient. You know, obviously you're not going to drop them in a deep pin when they're too young, too mature to hand them. >> My mother has one brother like three years older than her and she was in 770 by the Rebus and she meets this girl from Canada. She says, "Why are you why are you in town?" She's like, "I'm going to see here to see the Reb." and I and uh I I'm in I'm inim and whatever. While my mother's hearing about that she needs a she's looking down into the men's section with 10,000 people trying to find her brother and she's banging and banging and banging on the window and you can't hear anything and she finally sees her brother which is a miracle of miracles and she points to her like out out outside and she introduces my uncle to his future wife. They went around the block a few times. They went on a date and he went to Montreal and they're married 55 years. 1972 they got married. >> These types of do they happen anymore today or those it's not professional. You just don't do that. By the way, they have 10 children. [laughter] Marriage 55 years. You know >> listen if it happens it's brilliant. >> But how do we go back to that? >> See something. See something say something. >> You know what the Yeah. See something but got very big. Kabad grew tremendously in the last 20 years. Kabad got so big. It used to be a ma mall back in back in the shhat knew everyone in the little village made the here. Now it's not like that. Kabad is a global village. I'm making with people from China, South Africa, Australia all all over the world, the far east, you know, Argentina. I made shim. Kad is a global village. It's no more. >> Just be careful with some of these countries. Some of these countries, the girls have a reputation that they'll never be happy unless they live in the country and they they string you along. They say they'll come, they'll visit for a year or two. I know guys, they tell me if they don't move to this in this country, it's over. They have a choice. >> Fair hard. You know, people come with expectations and people come with, you know, pre preconditions. >> It's not good to have preconditions. >> Do you find that there are certain countries that they force you to move back to where they're from? You know, you always say that the kidnap always say that the the British, the Australians, and the South Africans are more or less in the same boat. >> The Israelis in a different boat, Americans in a different boat, than the South South Americans in a different boat. And you know, from time to time, we make we mix them. Um, it's hard, you know, it America Quran Heights became the place to be. I mean, you know, for an English speaking Kabad world, it became the place to be. I understand I get it completely. Um, and obviously, you know, part of being kabad is, like we said before, you know, you're not going to have the kids in the next street to you. They're going to be outside. You know, this part of what is part of what the rebel wanted. The rebel wanted people to go out. It's brilliant. Um, it's it's a it's a thing that you know, you you you got to understand that America apart from the most in the world, the most strongest communities. >> How often do people say no Australian, South Africa? Is that common? >> It's like this. I understand the reservations. I understand the reservations. You know, >> you know, someone can take an American can take an Australian and and the the uh the Australian says, "Yeah, I'll live in America. No problem. I'll live in America. No problem." And two years later, it's crying. I want to go back to Australia. I want to go back. What do you do? You know, people are scared of this and immigration issues and you know, you know, passport issues. You know, they got become an American pay lawyers. You know, >> it has to be. It has to be but what I'm trying to say understand the reservations but at the end of the day we're all the rebinder if you're Australian or South African or British >> he never targets he doesn't give it too much credit >> you know what >> she's a good shot he never gives the titus too much credit oh >> should I tell you something all the kinder so you got in London and you got in Johannesburg you got in you got inaris doesn't really matter and people should see beyond that. >> Mr. How does give some tips someone how to pitch a shak if they're not a how should how do they go about >> okay don't exaggerate that's the first thing you know sometimes you know people make exaggerations you know I was talking about before about and I told you I'm very straight I'm a very straight shaman don't exaggerate you know you can exaggerate on something very good for example if the boy learns five black gamar you can say you can say he learns 10 black gamarra yeah exaggerate on something that's true and something that's But don't make fantasies exaggerations. I'm very straight like that. I just think it has to be what has to be has to be. I don't think you gain anything long-term by, you know, >> don't exaggerate. What else? >> Sorry. >> What other tips someone should do to pitch a to nonprofessional? What do you >> don't exaggerate? You know there's there's a certain amount when when you're shaken you've got so much experience and so many scenarios you come across and you know I haven't come across every single scenario existing but when you've done it for a few years it becomes very natural and you know you you hear this oh I answer like this you hear that I answer like that it became very sort of like a you know you become you you hone your craft >> yeah they say something about if you do 10,000 hours or something you become an expert and it's tuck a truth >> Malcolm Gladwell >> right Okay. I wasn't I didn't know who it was. But you hone your you hone your craft. Yeah. You can get a a part-time part-time amateur. Got lucky made here and there. Fantastic. But really really really an experienced shatan come has seen everything done everything every scenario. It knows how to deal with it. To advise somebody there's an old saying you either got it or you ain't. [laughter] So you're not advising uh amateurs people know friends and family for sure go for it. friends and family they make a lot of friends of a lot of and again not everyone's connected you know you got some people who are very nicely connected they've been lab many many generations and they're very very nice connected thank you very much you got people who are say the one generation in parents they're not so well connected don't know who to ask what to say they never ever spoken to a before the brothers and sisters never hadim disability hadim >> no reference no reference >> it's very hard I feel for them is very they don't know where whom to turn. I've spoken to so many parents. I don't know what to do. I don't know whom to turn. I don't know who to ask. What to do? What to ask? What to expect. It's minefield and there is a bit of advice from the Reb you can see the Reb's letters. You can you can glean out answers etc. Um but again there's no one to ask. And then you got who really really haven't got any connections yet from fantastic you're great. you're sadic, [laughter] such a great guy, you know, and you know, you know, but they haven't got a connection. And that's where the shat comes in because the shaken is going to make you that connection, you know, it's it's a situation where again, you know, you go to, you know, you want someone to fix your car, you go to a good mechanic. You don't go to a part-time amateur. >> You advise going to a professor. >> Are there any red flags with guys and girls that you hear that's like a trigger word to be careful? Like if you find out that the guy is if the guy if the guy is the first guy at the bay mashes every single week know the banishes mash is. >> Yeah. Which mean Friday afternoon. >> If a guy's matures >> you know I say like this apart from the obvious things you know drugs and and things like that. >> Most people are good to good people. Most people are good people, you know, and and even the ones that are what you say a little bit modern, a little bit, you know, not so from not soish, they got such a good heart inside, you know, even some of the boys and girls who are not the top people, but they got mid to you know, they help people, they mean well, they make brilliant brilliant husbands and parents, right? Um the fact is that every year is special. Everyone's got something to offer. Everyone can be a good parent. Everyone could be be a good spouse regardless of all of these things. So apart from the obvious ones like we say, you know, drugs or alcohol, you know, obviously ts. But at the end of the day, at the end of the day, the vast vast majority of people go through it and they get there. >> So are there trigger again, are there triggers that you see that if the guy has a certain tendency, you shall run the other way? >> Hold on. If some person on meds for depression, do you disclose that? Yes or no? What's your >> something like this? This is something like this. So the donim have said like this by the third of the fourth date you have to disclose anything that you feel the other person should know >> prescription list >> by the third of the fourth date have said so [snorts] it's fair enough you know um you know people get married I mean you know people have regular lives people get married people have struggles I mean even so-called normal people have struggles you know, someone hugging a baby, they're overwhelmed, you know, it can happen to anybody, you know, um and you hear about more now than ever ever you did before. You know, it became and a bit like what you talk about, you know, everyone's on the spectrum now, you know, where was the spectrum 20 years ago, never never heard about it, but um you know, we just call it quirky. >> So, do you just do you disclose if some person one of the singles are on meds? Do you tell the people that or you don't tell them? >> I tell you the truth, I've never ever really someone's disclosed it to me. >> Oh, they didn't? Oh no, no one disclos it to me. >> They don't conversate. Why don't you tell us? >> You know what? I'm not a nosy person. >> If if a parent says to me, you know, we have, you know, a medical thing, it can be, you know, >> I said, listen, the rabbon have said by the third of that you disclose. I don't have to know myself because >> what are expectations if they have diabetes or cancer? What what are you got? Yeah, you had before. I've had I've come across it. Someone's a cancer survivor. >> You've got that. No, they disclose it on usually disclose that on the resume, you know. >> Um, you know, someone like that someone >> you write that that they're survivor, nobody's going to want to go out with them. Oh, it's so dangerous. It could >> people have had it and people have survived and they need to get married, right? >> 100%. I'm just saying that if you if you say it on the spot that could right away 90% of people might say no. >> Yeah, but there's a bet for them. >> I'm just trying to think I'm just thinking out loud. I didn't think about it. >> You're quite right. There's a bet for them. some somewhere and it's up to the parents of the child and to try and find that bash but you know it's you know it's it's hard. >> You ever do video resumes? Have you? >> I've seen it once. I've seen it once. Only once. I think it's very good. >> It's amazing. my my uh my my my friend owns a restaurant here in Crown Heights and he was looking for to hire someone and my niece for a different job in a hotel pes I asked her just send me a video resume talk hello my name is blah blah blah blah blah blah and she sent me the video it's sent to this pes hotel lapel they did not give it the job but my friend was looking to hire someone for their retail store in Crown Heights said oh I have that video of my niece doing it for the hotel. I sent in the video the day of she got the interview. The next day, that day she got hired. She's telling me, he's like, "My By the way, >> I spoke to other people working in the restaurant and they tried to get all their friends and their resumes." >> Yeah. >> All to get the job and he never gave anyone an interview. >> The only person he agreed to was was me. I like, "What happened?" I said, "Yeah, I actually sent a video of you talking." >> It may come in the future. It may come in the future. >> Yeah. So >> same as I'm more photos wasn't uh it may come in the future. I don't know when and how but it may come. >> So my experience I I used to have an app called real zume. It was a tech startup I did and it was video resumes of candidates. >> I remember I introduced you to go visit somebody at a big company. >> Yeah video resumes of candidates. The problem is that people are just like picture they feel vulnerable. Videos is five trillion times more. >> Of course. Of course. >> Therefore no one wanted to upload a video. So in theory in the real ideal world video resume is the number one thing in the world because a video >> could also if you like the person's personality get past the looks. >> I also will touch or also touch on it. You know sometimes you see a resume it's got nothing on it. The name date of birth what school she went to what camp she went to 10 years ago and nothing else but how you meant to you how's anyone meant to know. So I'm a great believer a lot of people say you know I I say put I say put a lot of people say they don't want to put you know they don't want to incriminate themselves they put they're putting themselves in the box already you know so they don't want to put I believe I think more is better the more most information more information given the resume the better I believe that um again you know someone just sees a resume with no information skip is kabad dating out of kabad becoming more popular say again >> kabad dating out of kabad like a sat girl with a wabavich guy wav guy sat girl >> I'm not aware of that I've >> I saw a few second >> and usually yeah usually people who have who have you know not gone in the typical >> what about speed dating >> it some it works some people works again again will the raonim you know I don't think the will agree to such a thing I can see many issues with that I don't think we'll come to that but you know people have done it you know a few months ago or comes across a little like pitistic meeting 20 girls in two hours or just it doesn't sound right >> you know again know from people going to go for it it's a certain type that could go for it >> my friend told me they did a speed dating and at the speed event like I don't know 40 girls everyone asked for the same two girls [laughter] >> yeah it doesn't surprise me but you know a couple months ago >> couple of months ago a guy that was on my group he told me yeah he got engaged and I said yeah okay yeah very nice how how Yeah. Speed dating. Oh, cuz I'm date. You know, if it works, it works. >> Clap. Are you ready for your kids? >> Oh, my oldest is 13, so I think we're a long time, but it will go quick in the next 10 years. We'll go quick. >> Also, Clappy is much He just We took the social status ladder. >> Clappy used to work in B&H and he's on the way up. He's on the way up. Yeah. So, it's good. >> Yeah. Yeah. In 10 years time. Prime. Prime. Clap is you know he's going to tap you know >> upwardly mobile they call it right >> upward mobile >> you know prime >> you don't want to talk about the statusing that much Mr. Mr. You're very nervous. >> Listen, I'll tell you something. I'll tell you something. You know, >> because I think is all about status from A to Z. >> And you're like, this I think it's a stat. Don't judge people. Just don't judge people. Go according to the midas of the single. Don't judge the family. Don't judge people. Could be the good or for the not good. You know, for the high class or the low class, don't judge people. Just go for the mid of the single. That's I think that is you can't go wrong with that. You know, >> mid again is timeless. Midas is the is the middle bolt that holds everything together. You know, it's the MS, the middle bolt that holds all together. That's Midas. If someone is lacking in midas, what's what's >> and and again, it's got to be taught. The parents have to drum midas into the into the into the children, the boys and girls from a young age or teenage age. Midas, midas, midas. That's the most >> Are there more single older single girls or guys? >> Say that again. Are there more 28 or 20 30 plus guys or girls? >> Girls, a lot more girls. >> A lot more girls. >> Lot more girls. Yeah. >> 30% more. >> Possibly. I could say like this. You know, people there is there is an imbalance inim. You know, when they get when they get born, it's 50/50. When they go to school, it's 50/50. When they come out of MISA, it's 50/50. when they get to shik age, there's a lot more good good girls out there than good boys. And they said it's a boy's market. Although I've seen for a cat as well, the opposite. Um, but people say, you know, if you got a good boy, you know, if you got a good boy, 20 people are queuing up. Um, you know, they always say that, you know, some boys they can date continuously. You know, they can, you know, a boy that's in Cran Heights can go out every second week on a new date. I can take continuously. I can speak to boys. I'm busy. I'm busy. I'm busy. I'm busy. I'm busy. >> Good girl. >> I mean, you know, >> less >> less. >> So, it's a guys market. >> Yeah. I mean, and there's great guy great girls. Don't get me wrong. The girls of the girls are beautiful. Girls are fantastic. Girls are so to me, you know, such a value. We're saying such a value. You know, you don't believe A woman can be chubbers, raise children. You can do multitasking. >> Sadly, I see it in front of my eyes. >> So many qualified, amazing girls. My friends, sisters, >> these girls have every degree under the sun. All the midas, all the so many of them. And they're still one >> from [laughter] working on it. Working on it. >> Is one that brought Mr. Mits on the show. >> Is the perfect example. At 23, he should have just married the first girl he went out with. I think he's getting too smart for himself. >> Some people say, you know, there's some people saying, >> "Do not add, do not edit this out." >> Some [laughter] was a great catch. I think he's >> Listen, I've dealt with him. He's a great guy. Uh, you know, but, you know, some people say that some people have already met their Bashette, you know, and they said no. >> No, I knew a guy. He was 60 single. He said he met the perfect share. He said the never had any daughters. [laughter] >> Brilliant. >> But I think, how did somebody reach you before we we cut? >> I'll put Yeah, I got the email. I'll send you I'll give you my details after your email. >> Say email. Somebody's watching. They want to quickly get in touch with you. >> Uh Z VI >> Z Vis. Yeah. >> M I tz >> mitzvgmail.com. >> Z vi zgmail.com. >> See last night you were still doing the uh the English thing. You were saying zed zed sharp. You shar you sharpened up already. Come to business. He went straight to the Z. >> What was the biggest tip you got for Shu? At least 10km. That's it. That's the biggest tip. That's the biggest tip. >> We get it. [laughter] There's no >> cash number. 5K. 10K. What was the most ever? >> Oh. >> Uh, next question. [laughter] >> People are going to be calling him up for loans. You know, things are very tight. >> I can't complain. He took the bus here from Philly. So you all the way from Philly tips are not doing that while he's taking the bus. You didn't get driven. >> You and I would have taken an Uber black. >> I don't know. Uber. I don't know. When I said when I said a few I haven't got a way here. I thought you had a ride. I'm a driver. Come and pick me up and take me back. What's What type of podcast is this? And what's going on? You know, it should be uh you know, should be something in the corner. Some food room. There's food outside in the waiting room. If your brand was better branded [laughter] than if I would have seen your podcast with you somewhere else then >> so it's coming back. >> Yeah. So now this is this is upward mobility. This is your upward mobility progress. >> How long are you going to be in town for? >> I'm here to just off >> people can meet him or no. >> Somebody wants to meet you over Yumpt if they should probably get in touch with you right away. I'm in Philadelphia. >> We're airing this on. >> Yeah. >> So I'm going to be best a few days later I'm going. But listen, I live in London. Most of the work I do mo 90% 95% of that I make are Americans to Americans. >> Um and uh I interview a lot of people on WhatsApp video call. That's how I get to know people. I done a lot of interviews. Um it really helps. And uh listen, I try. Listen, at the end of the day, I try my best for people. At the end of the day, it's I try I try. >> Do you work? You have another job? >> Uh no. was semi-retired. >> Semi-retired. >> Yeah. Yeah. Brom. >> Yeah. >> But I do I You're semi-retired from working at supermarket business. >> That's finished. That business is finished. Yeah. >> I do believe Clap. You said the girl went to the wedding every night as a joke or not joke. >> Just be around. It's it's very helpful for ladies and men to just show up. >> We mentioned before about, you know, don't hide your kids. Put them out there. You know, I know >> not like Dina, >> it grinds. I know you don't want to advertise your kids. I get it. It grinds. You know, reality is the natural way things are up. You've got to put your kids out there. >> However uncomfortable it is. I get it 100%. I get it. I've been there. I know exactly what you're going through. >> You got you got to do it. >> How do you get a sh Mitt from UK? Who ever heard of you? Was that hard? What was that experience like? >> You heard of me now. [laughter] >> What was that experience like? The pains. >> Listen, shall I tell you something? Yeah. >> I'll tell you something as a parent. >> Yeah. A said Mits like we're very you know we're a top show and we don't want random say Mitch from London like what >> is that type of fish is that type of meat >> and he will say you know a lot of good people came back from London you know statistically a lot of people from London or UK went on all over the world statistically a lot for its numbers [snorts] >> I married a girl from London >> yeah and statistically the London boys and London girls okay obviously I'm biased But you know there there's certain achievers about them and and they're mature. They got good manners. A >> little too serious >> polite. They can be a bit serious. You're right. What everyone says in the box. Out the box. In the box. In the box. Whatever that means. In the box. >> There's a lot of mileers. You know the I don't know what it was the atmosphere. You know >> we'll ask you straight people. >> We'll ask what thinks about the London education. [laughter] >> Listen I don't my told me many years ago don't get involved in politics. I'm very happy when my kids went through the system. Bam are very happy. They all can the boys can learn very well. >> How did you find your wife? How did you meet your wife? >> Oh, years ago. Many. Wait, obviously years ago. Yeah. Yeah. Of of a sort. Yeah. Of sort. >> Yeah. No. More like a friend. >> Got you. >> Yeah. >> Uh, so if someone looking for their kids, they should call you once a month. >> Get out there. Hold on. Can we do summarize? >> The same thing. I also >> Oh, you want to summarize? >> No, I'm saying you said friend. My is directly my wife's friend. Uhhuh. >> Married my friend and the husband and wife thought that oh you know it's really wolf she's in English and they're like oh you she knew my wife and he knew me. They're like oh is in America you know whatever is also English. >> Yeah her name is English because I know them very well. >> So they made it there was nobody else. Wow. >> 20 people told me that they thought of it and that they were they thought whatever. No they the only ones that actually picked up the phone and made made the So it's it's interesting. It could be that in England people there are more like like help a friend. Is it like a thing? >> It's possible. You can say it's a small It's a much smaller community and we do look out for each other. >> But now I'm finding out we didn't pay them enough. [laughter] >> The number Oh, maybe 15 years ago the numbers were lower. I'm saying >> I think there should be a 5year renewal fee. Every 5 years you pay the child and you're still married. You give a renewal since the deal. >> You know I think it's the best. No, I say it's the best bargain. Who's going to give you something that can last 70 80 years? What last 78 can you what good? You'd be married for 70 80 years kind of horror can you be you have many children many grandchildren great grandchildren or anything >> bargain >> it's a bargain it's a bargain what is going to give you something for life a partner for life 18 80 89 it's fantastic what can no one's going to offer you such a thing it's the best business to be in I don't mean business isn't money I mean the best >> return on investments are >> they do say it's bought down somewhere uh safe for bought down somewhere that someone has the of taking three to get Grenaden Grenaden. Why three? I don't know. >> So, hold on. If they get divorced after, does it still count? Cuz I did one with divorce. So, >> I don't know. >> Zero. >> But, you know, you think about, you know, >> divorce, you got to make five more [laughter] damage control. >> Listen, you like you said, make a feel good, right? Make a you'll feel good about it. You'll feel good about it many, many years later. Like the stalker, you give stalker, you feel good about it. Make a you feel good. >> Do you make over over 100? >> Sorry. >> Have you made over 100? >> I don't say numbers. I don't say numbers. Yeah. >> Yeah. I said you do like 25 to 40 a year. That's what it said. >> Ballpark. >> Ballpark. Okay, good. >> Um >> I know another shot very successful. Most of her kids are not married. I don't know why. >> Wow. >> Is there could you see >> a shift kid gave birth? A shoemaker's ch child. >> You know what? You know what I would say like this? Do you get too know too much? >> Yeah. Um but it can be a mile in the at the same time. >> Someone told me my family my all my siblings married people my parents did not know cuz they knew if they knew their parents. Oh, you mean that guy? Oh, that guy. Every single person I every single all my siblings I married my parents did not know them because my mother knew them. >> We said before you can't stop a but it will happen. You can't stop it. Just have to make a kay that's all. Make a kay your best from will happen. >> All right. Thank you so much for taking your valuable time and coming here. >> I slept all the way from from London to Philadelphia to come here and if I can help people um I I'm here to help people. At the end of the day, people do need help and I know what it means as a parent to to need help and I'm here to help. >> When you call up someone to suggest and you get a no, do you feel rejected or >> never? No. You look it like that. You just go go vital. >> You try again a month later, ever 6 months later. >> It can be it can be that a parent can tell me 6 months later, try again. I ask again. It's often though, but ask again. There's no 6 months is fine. You can ask again. No problem. >> Nothing to lose. We've got >> 6 months is a good window. >> 6 months is fine. Less than 6 months is is awkward. 6 months is fine because yeah, people move on. You know, things on that side the circumstances change and that circum circumstances change. You know it can be >> cl I do want to do a a a review should co engagements like more brand you know and just analyze who did what who the winner >> you got time to do this if you got time to do this cuz hey >> I think we hilarious people are going to appreciate it >> do AI >> I [laughter] don't think people like being rated >> but it's the real ratings exist or not clap >> ratings definitely exist the most real thing you should look I think people get reality checks when they find like you said their best friends of 20 years they find they're not interested in you boom like >> it's not easy. It's not easy >> because people also try to do upward mobility. People see it as an opportunity to jump. >> Yes. Said people very poor. What? What? >> People do want to better themselves. >> Yeah. People looking I know families that only marry rich. They're not rich. They somehow manage. >> There's some families that are known for that. >> They only marry rich. They use as upward mobility for their kids. Everyone understands their matzive. Everyone understands the position they're in. Everyone wants to marry well. Whatever that means. >> Thank you very much, Mr. >> My pleasure. My pleasure. Thank you for coming to the show. Thank you so much for suggesting it. >> Credit for you guys. Yeah. Thank you, man. If not for you know this would mostly wouldn't have happened, but I think you two guys are doing a great job. Keep up the good work. Go from strength to strength and uh be I'll come back again one day and do another scoring introduction like where can we what can we expect now based on our current social status? Definitely more. Definitely more than definitely more than before. >> Before the show, right? >> 100%. >> So, we get richer or prettier? What do we Where are we at? >> With Hashem's help, you get only good things. [laughter] >> Thank you so much. >> I let my wife know we're taking care of what you're doing. Hey.