Menachos Daf 97

All right, today's dion which is shabas is d. Yesterday we were discussing the and the possibility of it being which we thought was not so push because the cleates and therefore it's not which is metal and then we had brought from that it is metal because they would use the basically a display case for the regulum to show that the were still hot and how much hashem loves Israel because he makes this nace that the areas. Okay. But now fractum eight lines from the bottom of va but typically mishum tip you know why it's makab it's because of its gold plating and that would be the case even if it was it would still be makab because man didn't we learn in the mishna in the 22nd per of let's say you have a wooden kali like a table or a chair that now somehow it got broke and therefore it's smaller or zishna gets covered with marble vishier But there's still area to be able to put down the cups on the table still because there's still an active area of wood that's usable. It has a den of a cleates and still sh to its original kite. It'll be they have to have enough room for putting the because if you don't have enough room for its usability then it will not have a dinner of a table. But what do you see that she in only if there is going to be room for these other things it can still be macab but leier light but let's say that tui completely covers the table and therefore there's no wooden surface enough to really use it it's going to lose its status our has gold plating around the entire ki so maybe you have no riot that is to the sack now you want to tell me and there's two different kinds of plating you can have plating that's just kind of sitting there or you have plating that is actually attached and really part of the cle because by the kim of the chair, the duli, those things we were talking about in you're really affixing on plating with nails. You're making it permanent. But by it's inside of a gold sleeve. It's not really attached. And the reason why I would make such a is because and also moving overbisin that's the rim of a kier table even if that even if that plating doesn't cover that area had said to that made so that wouldn't matter anyway whether or not it was permanently attached with nails or if it was kind of in some kind of a sleeve of plating. But we're back to Arasha that atipui itself would be enough of a reason for it to remove its ability to be macab. So how does know from the of the it had a den of something that was metal but maybe you'll tell me that the actual wood that the was made out of was special wood. It was and therefore maybe it won't become bottle to the gold because normally we'd say that the plating is but here maybe it's not so because the actual but that's in that only said their din about wood that would be bottled because it's not such of a wood it's this mism let's say you have fancy mismos wood as we all know is such great woodley maybe it wouldn't be bottled to the plating so then chopper then rishlakish would be fine because would not be bottled to the according to the table's because the fact that it is not. So according to the reason why the is because it's bottled to that to that gold plating. So you you don't have any from the being for the you know what there's a uniqueness about the because even after it's been plated the refers to it as a wooden kay as the tells us we're calling that so now let's get into this pus a bit the starts starts off talking about the and then ends off talking about the why are we calling so but now we don't have a mdul is his for him and the way Rashi learns it is because he's going to be able to feed other people guests or the miketa says is because of the poor people that you're going to take care of but because of these mitzvah that a person can do with his schulan. They're going to act for him as a MSB of Kapara. As a kid, we moved around the country a bit until we finally settled in New York in 1980 and my mother got a job teaching in Bruters and therefore we started to go to Bruters and that was arguably the most right-wing school we had attended since everything prior to that point was very out of towny schools. My mother who taught first grade for decades. My mother likes to recount how when in the beginning of the school year she was sitting on one of the children's desks talking to these first grade girls who had a firmer background than the girl she had taught prior. One of these little New York girls says Mara Kramer you can't sit on a table. It's like a bay. So clearly the first grade girls iners knew and the mishnad said so as we talked about past couple days you got these vertical sniff that was standing up straight which had these little protruding pegs on which there were these rods that went across that acted as shelves to hold up the soil how do you know that the required all these different kinds of things says so what are these objects of that's the mold that they would form the bread in it. Those are the spoons that had the Rashi in his second shot says they come from the word of hard because they would support these and strengthen them so they shouldn't fall apart. the rods because they would keep it nucky clean of any mold which they will be covered that's they would cover those with themselves on this mucker from katina our mission seems to say not that way because the assembly and the deassembly of those etraz do it on shabas itself then later took back by saying because we also say in our shabas if you could do it on Friday you can do this whole process without being because you could do the switcheroo before shabas and put the new ones on after shabas so then time am so why do I need to have these different these different rods there so this way the bread shouldn't become moldy you need to have air flow going in between these in this short amount of time it's not going to be a problem like the says Kate said how will they go into the on and he would take away these he would put them on the ground actually along the along the length of the he would go back in he would take the edge of one and he would put the rod underneath And then he would again pick up the edge of the so again he would repeat this process until he was sliding one in and he would continue to slide in each one of these manaki until you got all 28 of them in there and the new without only there from midday on chabas until shabas and that's not enough time for these to become moldy and then the brace continues and says that the four middle in each of the two columns of six require three different of these with these different rods and the top two only need two. Why? There's nothing on top of the top two to squash them and create a problem and therefore they require less rods, less of these and there's nothing that needs to support the bottom two because those are sitting on the surface of the so again if you imagine you got two rows of six the bottom ones don't need it all. The next four each require three conum a piece. That's 3 * 4 is going to be 12. And the top two don't need as much support because they are not being squashed from above and therefore they only require two totaling our 14 different kum in total. And 14* 2 for the two columns is going to be the 28 that we mentioned. We learned in that Mishna that I'm sure we all remember in the 17th par. Yeah. Mayor call mdash all of the that whenever we talk about an amma's measurement in the base of mdash we're talking about an amma which is a six because you got a smaller one and a bigger one is the middle one those specific things the were comprised of that were five but that's all of mayor any of the were the building of the mdash were but caleb all of the caleb were made out and both were they come from the same school that we're going to spend some time on. Now, as the posting says is a way of saying a six because it's a five plus one tea. Turning over to and the base of the MSB had a five teflama and also an amma in its middle and its top edge was a half was a half amma round. All around was a five am. Now we break down the puss. That's the which is the one shelf that went around five from the bottom and the border there was a half ammo around those were the mayor this was made with an that was built out of five but That's not just by the all of the mdash all had five measurements. Now you might have thought that the saying that the height of the of the from the bottom to that is going to be five. What do we mean by the base was a five. So to its five from the base until that is that was measured in of according to this that the first six of the height of the MSB were made of five. What was the total height of the six of those were five each boy and four of those were made of six. So what was the total amount of of the it's 54. So Paul gave the what's the midpoint in terms of it'll be 27. So and what was the distance from the top of the until the it'll be 24. So how much is going to remain from that to the halfway point of the it'll be three. So if you're standing on that, you're going to be three from the center of the misbay. And we learned in the Mishna in the third per of which we're about to learn in our red line that goes around the at the midpoint of its height. As we know, there's lots of different most specifically the and those are all done above the as opposed to that goes to the lower part of the Now getting back to what we were saying. Now if someone is going up to bring so he could put the dam on the upper part of the he turns right to that he comes to the southeastern corner of the misbeh and he does it malik on the back of the neck he separates the head from the body of the bird says and he squishes out the dam on the wall of the above therau and if he goes down so far even one below below where his legs are. It's okay because it's still above the halfway point of the but according to the way we understood the putting dam now above the you must put the dam above the at least he's putting the dam which needs to be above the two below the because if the is above the when the k is on that he puts his arm downward in amma even the five am to squish the dam out on the kam and he now squishes it out below below the but the Bryce is saying that if he's standing on the siph you could reach down an amma to squeeze out the dam. So clearly the can't mean that the first six is of that that height can't be measured in five teacas. it won't work that the base that the is talking about that's talking about the kisa that's the part that goes in isa and the amma of its width is talking about the kisa of that and goula elafa is also the kisa that border which is the half amma all around is also talking about a kisa meaning all 10 of the height of the were all measured in am of six the five we're only talking about those kay specifically about the isite and the and the kronis and this ta works well with the bry Because what's going to be come out to be the height of the whole because each one of these 10 that counted upward were what's the midpoint it'll be till 30 mice and from the top of the chronis until that will be 24. So how much will be left over from that to the halfway point? It'll be oh now we learned in the if you do it even one amma down where his legs are that's still going to be a crusher to do the avoid and that will now be above the midpoint but we have a problem with that because what are you saying this about? It's you're saying that the five are going to be about the indentation. Can you really even say that the talking about the mission says at the very bottom of the was 32 by 32 and we're going to see soon how these are going to be six. Soon and at the ground when you start counting up from the side of the misb you'd go up one and then you'd go in one and we'll define that as that's the base of the was actually 30 by 30 the body of the once you've gone up but if you tell me you're measuring the whole based on five the distance meaning the vertical height of the above this isite is going to be 30 and two on each side because that's what's going to be left after you subtract the two five am from the 32 six the sue and also the Mishna says from the MB went up five amas and went in one making another one of these sticky out parts and that's what we call the nima eso above that the is going to measure 28 by 28 but if you tell me the used in the widths of the and the were made of five so the misbehave is going to be actually 28 and on each side now maybe you'll tell Maybe since the extra amount wasn't really a full the mission didn't want to count it but it's not really true because you see the mission doesn't do that the area inside the were 26x 26 am but if a five was used for the andv the am of this area are not 26 but 27 and here the Mishna wouldn't even be speaking out a full lama so vice dice the width of the cy kronise cannot be measured in five connected what we had said earlier based on the school. So inami the garis we mask him that the measurements of the misb at every one of these levels bigger than it was listed in our mishna specifically two above the four above the and an entire amma above the kronis and even though it's not listed that way in the mishna duck he wasn't going to be adding these single to point out the difference all right and this is going to go for a little while longer but we're going to stop it now picking up with the mukan for Sunday staff