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Menachos Daf 96

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All right, daf tzadi vav, Friday's daf, picking up with the mishna on tzadi vav. As this pair continues to discuss more of the kind of unique minachos, lechem hapenim being kind of a unique one, and now we're up to the chavitei kohen gadol. So, where were those prepared? Well, lishason, varichoson, vafiyoson were all done bifnim. So, those chavitei kohen gadol, which were divided in half, one for the morning, one for the afternoon, all the prep was done inside the Beis Hamikdash in the chatzer. We're not concerned about avsulina because as Rashi points out, this was only mussar to the kohanim. There was reason ledaychais es ha shabbos. Those processes were deche shabbos, but techinasan vaharqadasan, the grinding and sifting of the flour ainah deche es ha shabbos. And even though the actual bringing of the chavitein and the carpentometer all deche shabbos, but the preparation, the techina and the harqada are not deche shabbos. And now we get into why. Klal omer Rebbi Akiva, this is the same Rebbi Akiva that's in Rebbi Elozar demila also. Kol melacha she'efshar la'asosa me'erev shabbos, if you could have done it before shabbos, so then ainah deche es ha shabbos. You can't do it You can't now be deche shabbos. However, she'efshar la'asosa me'erev shabbos, well, then okay, deche es ha shabbos. If you couldn't do it beforehand, then you can do it on shabbos itself. So, part of the preparation of the minchas chavitein, namely the lisha, the aricha, the afiya, those have to be done on shabbos itself cuz if you do it on erev shabbos, you'll have avsulina by the next morning. But the techina and the harqada can be done before shabbos, and therefore it's not deche shabbos. Continues the mishna, "Al kol haminachos, all other korbanos yeish bohein ma'aseh kli bifnim." And Rashi understands the ma'aseh kli to be the lisha and the aricha. All that happens inside the chatzer of the Beis Hamikdash. "Ve'ein bohein ma'aseh kli bachutz." The ma'aseh kli, which are these processes of the lisha and the aricha, cannot be done outside the chatzer. Now, let's talk about the actual dimensions of the shnei lechem and the lechem hapenim. "Shnei halechem arkan shiva tefachim." It was seven tefachim long. "Verachban arba tefachim." It was four tefachim wide, which Rebbi Gershom over here points out is a halacha leMoshe miSinai. "Dekarnaisa arba etzba'os." And their little karnais, those little pieces of dough that were stuck on were four etzba'os. That's not a tefach, it's a finger breadth. So, those little additional pieces were stuck onto the corners of the lechem. Rebbe Yehudah omer, "Shelo titay, so you shouldn't confuse the different lechem between lechem haponim and shtei lechem." So, he comes up with this mnemonic device of zadad yahaz. So, the zadad, the zayin dalet dalet, are the dimensions of the shtei lechem because the zayin is the seven and the four that we just talked about. And the yahaz is the length, width, and the karnayim of the lechem haponim, the 10 5 and 7. Now, Rebbe Yehudah, of course, is famous for making these kinds of simanim. Who could forget his famous work of the tzara'at ba'av at the Pesach seder. There's an interesting Tiferes Yisrael that makes the actual siman more symbolic that zadad is a lashon of the zadad, like shadayim that a tinok is yanik from, that we're somehow yanik from these lechem. And you can listen to Rebbe Gross that talks about those things. Ben Zoma omer, "Vinasa al shulchan lechem haponim lefanai tamid." So, the lechem haponim have to be on the shulchan tamid, continuously. And we ta'itch lechem panim, sheyuloi panim, they have to have faces, meaning they have to have multiple surfaces. So, hashulchan, on the actual shulchan, arkai asar verochbai chamisha. It was 10 tefachim by 5 tefachim because each one of the amos was made up of a 5 tefach amos. So, memelo, it was 10 by 5 the surface. Nice and arkai keneged rochbai shel shulchan, so the kayin would put the lechem haponim with its length across the width of the shulchan. Dekayif tefachim umachtzay mikan, and he would bend up two and a half of the tefachim on each side of the lechem because the length of every one of these lechem is 10 tefachim. And the width of the shulchan is only 5 tefachim. So, we've got to make up for half of that size of the lechem. So, by taking two and a half on each side of the breads, hence the U-shape we've been talking about. That vertical line of two and a half on each side will now give us a footprint of 5 tefachim of the actual lechem. So, nimtza arkam umalei rochbai shel shulchan, so the length of the lechem will fill the width of the shulchan. Divrei Rebbe Yehudah. Rebbe Meir omer, "No, hashulchan is arkai shnayim asar verochbai shisha." It's actually 12 by 6. And then for the lechem haponim is arkai asar verochbai chamisha, which was 10 by 5. So, nice and arkai keneged rochbai shel shulchan, the kayin would put the lechem haponim with its length across the width of the table. And kayif they would mikan, he didn't than two and a half on each side. And therefore there would be two in between the two stacks in the middle of the in between the two stacks in the middle of the what's the point of that empty area? So this way there will be air flow and it won't let these become moldy. You know what you know what we use that open space between the two stacks? Like you see in the pictures. You put the spoons of the in between those two stacks. So we needed some space between the bread. They said to the you put the the not in between the two stacks on the on the the all of matter of so you see the word doesn't really mean physically on top but it could be nearby and so too by the it meant it was nearby. There were these four sniffing I guess you can call them sticks that would kind of support which were they had projections at their top each one of these sticks had a whole bunch of these little pegs that were sticking out that the would use to support the and two of these sniffing with their projections would be for each side of the different stacks of the 28 of rods that went across horizontally and they were like a hollow read they were almost like a semi circular kind of half circle in order to be able to allow the air flow to go through and the 28 would be divided into two groups of 14 for each one of the two stacks. Now we see their the way these different rods that were on the and their removal from them those are not this is understood by the to be an because it looks like yellow which they do the go in on the take away these rods and the and they would put them along the length of the itself. He would actually put them on the floor along the length of the on day he would take away the old column arrange all the new ones in the columns. After shabbos he would return to put those rods between all the stacks of those lechem. And lastly closes out this nice long Mishnah Kol HaKelim Shehayu BaMikdash Archon Lo Archon Shel Bayis. All of the Kelim that were in the Beis HaMikdash they were put with their length going along the length of the Heichal which essentially means they were going east to west and it's not just by the Shulchan it was also by the Menorah. But the Gemara is going to say how the Aron itself went from north to south and that was the exception to that rule. Zach Degel Torah Kol HaMenachos Yeish Bohen Meiseh Kelim Bifnim. They all have their Lisha and their Aricha that's all done in the Beis HaMikdash in the Chatzer. And they're all done inside of this Kli Charis in the Beis HaMikdash. So Shulchan Lo Us Rebbe Zum Einan. How do you know that the Lisha the Aricha of the Korban Mincha has to be done in a Kli Charis inside the Beis HaMikdash? Amar Leim. Rebbe says back Karei Hu Omer the Pasuk says Vayomer Eliyahu Makom Asher Yevashlu Sham HaKohanim Es HaOshem Es HaChatos Asher Yaifu Es HaMincha LeVilti Hotzi Es HaChatzer HaChitzona. This is the Pasuk in Yechezkel talking about the third Beis HaMikdash describing what the Kohanim were they're going to do their baking etc. So Mincha Domeh LeOshem VeChatos the Pasuk is putting together a Mincha just like the other Korbanos of Chatos and an Oshem. So Ma Oshem VeChatos Te'urin B'Kli to cook these Korbanos you need to have a Kli Charis Af Mincha Nami Te'ureh B'Kli. Even for the Lisha and the Aricha. And the Mishnah then said HaShulchan Arko Asarah which then we got into how you have to bend up the sides of these Lechem HaPanim so they'll all fit. Amar Rebbi Yochanan LeDivrei Ha'Ameirim Tifachim Me'etza Keifel that the bend up these Lechaim two and a half Tifachim which is according to Rebbi Yehudah. Nimtza Shulchan Mekadesh Chamisha Asar Tifachim LeMa'alah. If you do the math you're going to figure out that there was 15 Tifachim of height that it went up that the Shulchan would be Mekadesh. And LeDivrei Ha'Ameirim Tifachim Keifel according to Rebbi Meir would you bend it up two Tifachim? Then Nimtza Shulchan Mekadesh Shnei Mesar Tifachim LeMa'alah. It was a 12 Tifach vertical Kidush. Farkhte Gemara how are you only Chashvinin the Lechaim? Well I get Konim. The rods adds more height. Nah cuz Konim Sheku'ei Meshakelu. There was these indentations in the actual Lechaim where these Konim did not add any extra space. If you look at the pictures that we rendered that I posted the other day, you can actually see that we actually put those indentations at the bottom of the lechem. Bring to mind what my time is, why we putting these different kind of in between the lechem? Because we don't want the bread to become moldy. So, those kind of allow the air to flow in between. But, if those kind of are actually in the lechem because we created these indentations and therefore there's no additional air. So, if they're going up a little bit, the rods are supporting these lechem one above the other. So, there is some air space in between the top of one lechem and the bottom of the kind of above it. Well, if that's the case, well then they are a little higher. So, that should add to the height and therefore the kind of of the lechem is going to go higher than the 15 or 12 respectively that we said. It is like the one now. Given the way that they are not a real kind of because it's only a little bit less than a kind of because it's only a little bit less than a kind of so it's like therefore we're rounding it down. If the kind of are put on top of the lechem and that will certainly add height to what the kind of is. Which actually actually asks the question that it's not that the kind of itself is being the kind of the kind of so it's funny that the kind of asks the question about how you can kind of but the kind of says here the kind of have a kind of the kind of were inside of the kind of they didn't actually sit on top but they were within the air space of the cavity if you will of the kind of but how do the kind of have a kind of so they were already included in that kind of but the kind of says you got little horns that stick up above the kind of that should add height everything the kind of says the kind of kind of they were folded into the lower kind of the kind of kind of and the other kind of sat on them like they're almost inserted in so therefore the actual kind of added no height to the entire stack of the kind of turning over to the kind of what about the kind of what about the kind of kind of a frame that went all the way around and that should add some height now because kind of kind of according to the kind of he'll learn that that kind of is below the top surface of the kind of and therefore it doesn't add any height to the actual kind of and even the kind of kind of kind of kind of kind of it bent upward outside of the kind of the kind of the kind of this way the kind of were on the surface of the table and they weren't sitting on the kind of so even though the kind of might have actually been above but it didn't add any height to the stack of lechem. Okay, the tanya like the braisa says "Rebbi Asi Omer, lo haya shom sniffin, there were no sniffin that were on the shulchan el misgarte shel shulchan mamash es ha lechem that was supporting the lechem." And Reb Loiza said "No, the misgarte le mata aisa, it was below the surface of the shulchan and therefore it didn't support the lechem." Omer Rebbi Yochanan "Le divrei Omer misgarte le mata aisa, if you hold that that misgaris was below the surface of the shulchan, so tavla misapeches temaya, you should be able to learn that a tavla that can be used on both sides, that's a tavla misapeches because it's flat on both sides, should be shaiach le mekabel tumah even though there's no base kibbul. So, le chiyura you could bring a raya that according to this tana, that kind of keli that has no base kibbul, even though it's just a flat tavla, can be mekabel tumah. And le divrei Omer misgarte le mata aisa, if you hold that the misgaris was above, so it wraps around the perimeter of the shulchan, tavla misapeches dibay lecha, the tumah of a tavla is still going to be a shaila and you can't bring a raya from the shulchan. Now, based on that, mi klal de shulchan bar kibbulei tumah, the whole assumption of this is that the shulchan in the Beis Hamikdash actually is a keli that's mekabel tumah. But, le chiyura kli eitz she oso le hanacha su, a kli eitz that's not moving around because it's intended to be stationary is not mekabel tumah. Ve chol kli eitz she oso le hanacha su ein mekabel tumah. And my taama because de mi disakvin it has to be like a sack. And mi sak metalto malei ve reikan, just like a normal use of a sack, full and empty. So, af kol metalto malei ve reikan. But, something that's never meant to be moved around, my piano is not going to be mekabel tumah because it's sitting there on the ground and not to be moved. And le chiyura that's the same thing by the shulchan. So, why would Rebbi Yochanan say that it was shaiach to be mekabel tumah? Efer de Gemara "Ki shulchan nami metalto malei ve reikan." Ki de Reish Lakish it actually was moved around full and empty. Ki de Reish Lakish de Rebbi Reish Lakish "Ma de kaseiv al ha shulchan ha tahor? That you should put the lechem ha panim on this shulchan ha tahor." Tahor mi klal de ketamei, you don't tell me something is tahor unless it could also become tamei. But, how's it shaiach? Le chiyura it's a kli eitz that's not supposed to be moving. Ela mi lami de magbian aisa le oilai regalim, they would lift up the shulchan for all the oilai regel u mar'in bo lechem and they would show the lechem ha panim. Ve omerim lahem "Re'u ki baschim lifnei Hashem." "Look how See how beloved you are." And how do you see the because the Kohanim would show this lechem to these Regalim that was a week old and it was still hot as it was put there right beforehand. And the advice points out that even though the Regalim couldn't actually feel the lechem. How do they know that they're still fresh? They were able to see the steam rising from it and that nice showed the and the from Kadivar Levi the Shimon Levi nice nice upon him that was at the time they took it off it was hot and fresh just like it was when they put it on there. Lo some lechem by him he So you see that one of the uses of the was to lift it with the lechem on it. So clearly it was meant to be a cleat that was carried while it was full of stuff as well and therefore it had to be like a sack. It could become tamei and you could bring rise from there to the table. And this is a good place for us to pause. We'll pick it up at the mission secret.