Menachos Daf 73

All right, gimmel Wednesday as we get to start the new peric all about and you guessed it the carbon. So the following classic carbon minas are going to have a kit and you take the shirim to give to the kahan to eat. And what are those? Those are the shallow panes in the deeper pano. the of is still going to have a kamita. Now, why wouldn't it have a kamitz? You're not giving them the to eat. You're just burning the whole thing. And the whole point of is that you're splitting that which gets burned and that which gets eaten. But you still do a kam even on the and now what do you do with it? You burn the shite and you take the shim and you burn them too. So even though you'd think what's the point of doing any of that separation just burn it all. still that you split the kam from the rest of it and you burn them both separately. Papa whenever we learn in a Mishna the list of the carbon like the one we have in our Mishna it's a list of 10 for those of us who are keeping score this is the third time we've had this memor from the one what's the papa saying that it's going to be 10 we can also count because a person who wants to bring he can split it between so according to her papa so kamashan the papa's coming to tell us not like that you have to bring a single flavor either all or all and you can't mix and match. Then the Mishnad said how do you know this that we've been saying throughout the that the are going to eat the of the whenever the Tory says that the Shir are going to be eaten by the it's written there and whenever there's a kind of where it doesn't say that it says by that so even if it doesn't sayish that it's but still it all says that so you don't need to have a mucker it's bearish in the Tyra that The shir are eaten by the kahan. So let's explain what the original question was. That comes from wheat that's push such carbon minimum are going to eat those shir like we just said iron but it's understood that iron is like designated for animals. It's aish that the kahan would eat it. I I still don't need to have a mucker for that because it has a kamita. What? That's the biggest. If you're doing a kamita it's because you're trying to separate from the rest of it. What are you separating the rest of it for? For the kahhanim shirim. So you're right. I'll leave it to drop and like come boy. It's pushed according to the tenac of our Mishna that any that has a obviously are going to go to the kahan because unique he holds there such a mus of doing kam but yet still not giving the to the to eat. It's not like ours even though you're taking off a kam which certainly should imply you'd think that the kahan are going to eat the shirim. No, it's not true. They all get burned. So according to that according to how do you know that the from specifically if I don't need this for a carbon of that gets mixed with oil I'll apply that same that gets mixed with oil and if I didn't need it for a dry so using this concept of because I didn't need it cuz I already know it. We can apply the rule of even that the kahan will take it to eat it. Is that what I'm using the for we need it for the following. Now this is the beginning of a long bryer which the final punch line of the Bryce is going to tell us that we've already used up this pik but now we got to go through a 20 line Bryce first. So again how do you know that can't divide up a against other against other animals? In other words, one client can't tell another, hey, you could take my and I'll take your ze that has equal value. Moving over to every that's baked in the oven. So since you have this expression of it sounds like it has to be for this and they can't exchange it for other I might have thought they can't divide against others because a carbon can't be swapped out meaning if you can't afford it you do cheaper ones. that of bad doesn't exist by a carbon only by maybe the khan can divide the carbon against the birds which is only going to be because I do find by a carbon that if he's too poor to afford the birds he can bring the carbon instead so the ma can serve as the replacement for the and therefore maybe it's dividable amongst the that agree to do so tell him the glamour comes to and says that expression of says it has to be for him you can't make your own to divide the and the okay but I get that there are different kinds of one is that's the it's blood carbonus as opposed to which is in a different whole category of but maybe birds and could be divided for them and they can't divide it the way they How do you birds? You do it with malik as opposed to this which are done with a knife. So that I get why you can't divide those up. They're all in the same categories you do with your own hand. Maybe I can't have the two different kinds of that. One is in the thin pan, one's in the deeper pan. I understand you can't divide up because they have different textures to them. Now lastly, I might have thought that can't divide up different carbon within but they could divide in the category of column. Interestingly, Rashi up on top gives the example of a schlum kg. Sounds like those two different kinds of column. But one might think to me from Rashi that if I want to take a schlim, you want to take the schlam even though they're different in column that would be okay. But the don't want to say that in Rash. If you take a look at it says so it really isn't a proper dick to make in Russian. You might think it could be but anyway we've used up the PK that we wanted to use for that theim of the should be eaten by the even according to the P's already been used as we see from this Brycea. So even though we just finished with our question now the Bryson just finishes up and says ish the Tyra says we're dish even if the himself is and he can't do the but he could still partake in the carbon feel the cotton can't get even though the cotton himself is a tum and doesn't have any moon anyway we're still with our kasha how does have a mocker according to that the shim from the carbon of is going to be eaten by the bice the Bryce is telling us is coming from the word was learning the words that come afterwards which is the that's bashan etc. Ira looks for which is a reference to backhudl that you can't have a of a combination of to which the answers of is coming from the so is going to be used that you can't divide up the carbon and the rest of the is going to be available for so this was all one big mocker that the shirim of are going to be eaten by the kahan even according to now let's give another mocker How do I know that the shim of the were given to the kahan is from a ley taught in the tunny carbon. So we got these that we're going to want to d carbon in every one of their carbon raises that that's also considered one of the mountain that after the mitzer goes through the process of taking care of the tahara from his tas the rest of the oil that's not used is put on the head of the mitz. We learn from this that any leftover oil goes to the kahan and can be by the which is the because none of that's burned on them. And that's where the Torah says that those of that are also given to the kayan. Then all of their rabbis those are also going to go to the why would I think not to include them because only those are coming forap the sham go to the khan but this is not coming for kapara it's coming to be or the other one is not coming for kapara it's coming to find out if she's a tells us that the kahan are going to eat even these for every one of their that also goes to the which is and therefore it doesn't really have a proper theory says that the get to eat them as well. Then the B says we know the get that key you're right we're coming to include the asham of the noer who became that also goes to the kahan just like the why would I think not that way that carbon is not coming but to be m him to those things he was when he was a nazer not because of any kind of kapara and therefore maybe it wouldn't go to the kahanim kamash malan that even The buser from that asham of the Nazer is going to go to the kahhanim. And then Bryce finishes a yoshiv which is returned when someone's if someone steals from a who later died that also goes to the kayen that it's totally yours. You could even be with it. Turning over to brand new theim of a guy we look at as an meaning if a guy goes ahead as makish an animal to bring as a schlamim instead of partially eating it. It's completely burned on the like a carbon island. So the mocker is either or because so that's what his intention is. Now the big whether or not it's avar is whether or not if he intends that he wants to have his be eaten. So it'll depend on whether or not it's coming from a what is his going on in this das or if the terra mandates that it has to be brought as an that's the here in this says promises to bring if he gives it to the can the is clearly saying that the of the is going to be eaten and not burned like anom if a guy brought the alen that the should have a with it then is going to eat it. And the way the says that if the guy is doing this for the then it's really the isel's carbon at that point. It's just being given to him by a guy that a guy can bring a carbon that will be eaten because the says the could have just simply said an ish which sounds like a since the repeats the word is it's coming to that he's going to bring it as How do you do that the guy can also bring the schlammer? And how do you know they could bring a carbon which is in the classification of more like aim that they could bring these other same why does the even call it an what can't he bring the guy cannot be manad to bring all these different nazerus there's going to be a whole bunch of carbonas that are not negatim since the ter is going to bring these carbonas as an elvad that go can only bring an oil by itself and not any other kind of carbon and that if the guaka brings a schlam it's brought as an oil in this bryer gly saying that can bring all kinds of different but according to they can only bring carbon so this is the same kind of as we have in our mishna between who says that the guy have to be brought as an which is going like as opposed to which is going to be including a amongst other is going to go like according to because the tyra said he understood that means we're being mayat the carbonus of a nazer the highly I know from another place because meaning only a yid can become a nuzzer. A guy can't become a not because he carbon it's only the carbon he can't bring but maybe the guy can actually become a he just doesn't bring those carbon bonus that by saying a guy can't even become a nuzer in the first place. Okay. So we have whether or not a guy can bring any carbonus besides an so who's this Mishna in the seventh par of I'm going to go liked this is one of the best and he sent the along with it brought from his own money if he didn't send any then Michelle we actually used the public funds to pay for the of this carbon lay who holds that guy could bring any other carbon including the like who only holds they could bring an they would never be bringing in which limits a carbon to a carbon he doesn't mean only so literally it's the it means he could bring the carbon and all those things that come along with it which includes so is also mask that the can be brought on in the par of the says you have to be an So I might have said maybe doesn't require any it should be done to tell me that every carbon even the ones that are brought by have to have some so money who's the town of that price because he can stop bring he doesn't even need a carbon according to because he's more expensive about what can bring it's very limited according to that come along But how's that? Because change the take out the wine because since we already established that can bring in with all of its including the that's what we meant when we said the and we'll stop here and pick it up with the two dots for Thursday's half.