Menachos Daf 65

All right, Dav Sam. Hey, Tuesdays. Dav as we continue talking about these examples of how Morai and Rashi understands that to be Morai from the Purum story, how he was able to understand the context of what people were saying whereas no one else seemed to have been able to. And we're holding at the end of the line of the first wide line. There were these three ladies toan that they brought three different pairs of kenan. Kenan are the birds that ladies bring for carbon, right? That's the whole makenan is about these pairs of birds. Now each one of these three ladies were bringing a pair. I'm bringing it because of my zea which sounds a lot like that she was a zila and she has to therefore bring an andasi which is implying some kind of a flow also sounds like she has to bring it because of her because of my also which sounds like a reference to her to bring that and so all of the raon figured all three of these ladies are talking about they saw their zus in the typical carbon and therefore leamos is leosy mameish like a yam i.e. her flow or is for her time and all of them would be one and one said maybe that's not what they meant maybe she did see dam but that dam was as a result of a dangerous medical condition that she had and maybe the second lady maybe she came across on a dangerous voyage at sea and maybe the one who said my was talking about a play on the word that she was really referring to a dangerous thing that happened to her eye because then they're not going to bring and a for but rather they're going to bring an off the carbona which could be brought as ana but it is a little bit odd that why would you bring an oil at all? You should bring a schlim for a carbon tida. The rugged shuffer in the tapas pane. He brings a from this that are not in the generic carbon big but gross spoke this out from a pane that brings from the about that. Anyway, they looked into it and it turns out that was right. How do they look into it? Ra over here just says they asked the ladies. Moving over to and this is an example of that which we learned in the Mishna in the fifth perkum the alhakan the name of a person who was in charge of the collections of the money that paid for the kenan because it's important to know why people gave the money for these kenan and zishna over there was tak. Interesting to point out that not everybody who worked in the B mdish need to be a ley the makes that point over here that since we know was from the vice that would be okay now why was called because he opened up these things and explained them and he also understood 70 languages saying that knew 70 languages shouldn't be such an amazing feat because we know that all members of Sanhedrin needed to know 70 languages of Ella Bal Kakma and Bal Mara they had to be very good-looking and bala they had to be tall and those are both seem to be strange margalam is bothered by that why do we care how they looked but maybe their height and their good looks made it easier for people to listen to what they had to say bal zikna they were old not too old because as rashian sanhedrin says if they're too old they won't remember the sar bunam and they won't have ramanas on younger people but they're old enough and balafim and they also knew kish they knew witchcraft why in the world is that important The way Rashi learns is that that if someone is misin they use their witchcraft in order to not be killed the Sanhedrin can use any tools at their disposal including kishov to take care and kill them. This is a very surprising shot. Tyus by us learns a more pusha idea that if they understand witchcraft then they can now put someone to death for using it. But here's the line that's important to us. They knew all 70 languages. And why did they need to know the 70 languages? So they wouldn't have to hear through an interpreter. So what was the reason that Morai was called Ella to have a lish Morai was so good at languages he was able to combine different languages and explain the meanings of them like he did in these previous stories and that's why Morai was also referred to by the name of Bilshan because he was able to do that as he was so proficient in the different languages and understanding what was the process that they would actually cut the barley for the carbon being the day before pes And they would tie the barley that was still connected to the ground. They would tie it up into bundles while it was still this way. The day after they could right away go and cut it. When that first day of Pes would end, everybody from all the nearby towns would come and collect why you want over here. A lot of pop and circumstance when they did the carbon. And how did they make such a big deal about it? Once it got dark, the one who was doing the cutting would say boashes. Did the sun set. And they would say hayne. Yep. And then he would say it again. Let me hear you. Boashes. Rhne. And then he would say muggle zoo. Should I do it with this kaye? With this sickle hayne. Yeah. Do it. And he would say I don't hear you. Mal zoo. And they would say h koopazoo in this basket. I hane. I can't hear you. Koopazoo. And h. So this whole camp-like exercise of saying it and repeating it created much more excitement and called a lot of attention to it as we're going to see they were coming by Shabas when it took place on Shabas Shabazooh again shaboo now going back to when it happened on any day should I cut it he would repeat and then he said it again then he would ask every question three times even though the says it twice but really he did IT THREE TIMES. WHY DO THEY DO THIS WHOLE THING? The busim who only followed not they said that should only be done on the first mozzabas after that y not the day after yumptiff as we'll see in the garbara the droes. So to counteract that negative influence of the basusimum they made a big deal out of the katirus ton raon we learned in migillas tinness now migillas tinus is the list of all those days that we shouldn't make which all of them are no longer except for and says these are the days you can't fast and on some of them you can't make apit from until the eth day of basically all of next week they were the carbon dele And you can't have a hesp and certainly you can't have an from the eth day of until the end of pesa the date of when was set up that you can't do any and you also can't have tan and now continues the bryce to break it down further from the eth day of that they were macken the carbon that you can't make apid we kind of go back and forth between they're essentially the same that they didn't believe in termed the sudukim said that even a yid can bring a carbon my because they incorrectly dar to say and since it's sounds like every can bring a carbon from his own money to which the say back to those carbon and then it says tisharuishka the guilt that pays for the carbon tid should come from guilt and not from the trumalishka and not from a yak's money. The shame is says a deeper understanding of the problem is that they couldn't be so how the tisharu which is lenim could come from the y of and the is because when Israel has an aus they can become like a and they can have a len in reference to the of Israel that was something that fundamentally that sukum had a problem with that we're not really shy to have that unity then the bright said from the eth day of nissan until after the day that there were maku you can't make a hespid from their misrepresentation of they said that always has to happen on a Sunday and was once in their presence and said to them where are you getting this from nobody could answer one old guy who was saying in back loved and he knew that is only one day and he wanted to give Israel like a longer holiday. So let's make it into a longer weekend. So he wanted to have this day always come out on Sunday. So this way it would be a long weekend and would have that. It was a silly thing that this said. Soak said to this could have gone from which is to kadesh bara which is near in just 11 days turning over bay and if you're right that you're saying was such why did it take 40 years it should have just taken 11 days said back to this is how you're answering me said back to our perfect shouldn't be like the stupid things that you're saying now that has just kind of made fun of this. Now he gives him the real answer that you should count 50 days and the fact that Tyra counts it in terms of days and not weeks. We don't need to start on the beginning of a week which would be a Sunday. The Tory al says you got to do it in weeks and weeks by definition begin on a Sunday and they end on a shabas. So you should count on a Sunday. So okay said how do you reconcile this and it depends on how it works out in the calendar that year but you don't always have to bring the on the Sunday and likewise which is always going to be the same day of the week that the brought is not always going to be on a Sunday and now we're going to list all these different are going to give different ideas of how to understand the rebel and I don't even need the gave because the says that we going to decide how to count it because they know how to make a and therefore shabas is so when the Torah tells you to count after the shabas it means after that yumpt after that first day of pes which is determined by bezdon because it's totally on the soay the count that would begin after a shabas meaning to a Sunday that you wouldn't need bez for that another understand you count 29 days and you make aesh with the carbonas and you count 50 days and you bring the carbonas for just like when you start counting the new month it's very clear because it's after the so too the counting until is now if you're telling it's always going to be on Sundays like you say how is it going to be so clear to be identified before it happens because it won't always be a calendar date it'll be hooked up by the weekday which is not always going to be the same it won't be nicer Another shot bring the pes and you bring the so. So regel just like the are brought on shu is at the beginning of the yumptel. So to the s brought at the beginning of pes meaning on that day after the first day of pes and not on the first Sunday after pes and the last ones are shabas both are called a shabas just like it'll be right by shabasan by it's going to be right by it shabas which in this case happens to be pes but not the Sunday it'll be next to the yumpt of pes and we'll stop here and we'll pick it up with the ton raon tomorrow is a big spher day sounds like it's going to be an exciting douff.