Chullin Daf 86

All right. Today is Dav Pav. This is Shabus's daf and we're going to pick it up on Pam and Bay's 13 lines from the bottom I think with a story. Unfortunately had a problem with moths in his bead. So you don't go to the exterminator you go to Rebi. So rebi said you know what the is the bird over the water where the is soaking where the moths will become disgusted by the smell of the dum and they will leave. So while it sounds like a good idea but how can you do that if a person doesn't really want to eat the ber and all they want to do is get the dam still. So how do you handle getting dam out of an animal without requiring a but it's clear from this brace that if you do a proper you will be so rebi give him such for the kiosmar say to rebi never told him to he told him to make it into a traa then because once it's a traa that is not going to be requiring a because as we said yesterday rebi liked that is rebi told not to tra the bird up but to do. So say according to he said that rebi said to make the bird into my time say why didn't he like why did he go with maybe you're going to say that according to rebi there is no at all and therefore you would be he would need to do I'll say that holds there is all the are they're all from. So according to rebi if a bird requires the is only going to be when you have a real not so why say that you should do why do you only say do a traus moving over to let me say which certainly would have there's more of a from according to who learned the other way to go and do my time like we were just handling this was yesterday's d that rebi saw the that's why he learned it under the name of the to give it more so since So why couldn't Robin say that Reb's advice to was to make the bird into a tra and then it why wouldn't that take care of the other way to that for sure would like but if you would do the maybe you would be for because never required at all CBC that since we have a mess that was told by Hashem to do a vad will not be sufficient over here talks about that would be enough to aadam similar to the whole about a suka that gora says even though it's only there's another potential issue to talk about here about what the he is to make the animal into a traa I guess you could do it in a way that's not sim or baltashkas because now the person needs it because he needs it for his moth problem. But on the story, could it really been that his flax actually had moth problems? From the time when people gull came up to this is not talking about Rashi says there were these that people were being lax in their mitzvah and therefore there was these problems and Hashem sent all kinds of problems for them. There were natural disasters and weather incidents. So when these came up these natural disasters and the people's wine didn't become and their flax was not afflicted by these moths and assumed that because of the and what do you see thatim protected people's piston from having these infestations. So how can you say that his flax was afflicted by these moths and for the that's it helped tak but didn't help him for themselves. You find that sadikim can take care of their generation without actually giving any benefit to themselves. The whole world's sustained because of this shabas and himself doesn't need anything but this was enough for him. It wasn't the he was just being he really didn't need it. Okay. Let's say you have these people who are not and they and it was witnessed that they did. So then because we have to assume it was a good now that it was watched by other people. Why shouldn't one person be able to be okay for a so could be because normal is for over here since it's not for you need to have two of them because it's going to be continues the mission of let's say by themselves then we're allowed to assume it was not a good and therefore you're putter from while people are watching now we have because we have to assume it was a good mayor or mayor's is going to be so now we have to know what the difference is why the shoulder why can't we just assume that it was not a good everybody even if he did in such a situation you're not going to get malus because if it was a good and therefore it's a shift you're going to be forb the night now according to a very obvious question in the first they didn't argue with and since it might be there'll still be for so why are they going to answer by the and for the counter pressure if you say that you'll have a by this and people might come to eat from it so there's a potential takola there's a potential Since the said you shouldn't the offspring of such an animal because of now we're not worried because people say he didn't need the meat. So they're not going to say that because of the will beher to eat from. Well, frankly, maybe people are going to say that the only reason he needed the dam was to clean out his backyard, but not because he has to do the mitzvah of the what are you going to say in a case where there was no because he'sing in a garbage dump. Okay, but remember what are you going to say when he goes to BZ and asks am I to do because says I'm going to think that it was a and people might come to eat such a meat and because of that said you should not do the because of the case of mole I can also t the same thing let's say you're coming to ask am I to refrain from shing that offspring or not so the finally says really the raon argue even in the ratio mayor the only way to rem to finish out his me and then they said that they are going to be so mayor says does not have and argue with both that you're both and now I get that because it's a suffix mayor you got to give me the reason why mayors make them mayor holds that a person's going to be for eating we can go with say that person is based on this and therefore if you're going to be you're not going to be now my time explain to me since according to mayor of the are going to be messed up so I got to arrive of Yeshua. So, why do you need to come on to say that according to even if it was only a of the we messed up and you can use the to join together with the rub as I'll show you a precedent for this idea from the third. Let's see you see a kid next to a piece of dough and there's dough in his hand's mire and the says that the dough is tar or the way Rashi learns is that the child will be tar look at this situation they say all right this kid is definitely touching and therefore it's going to be in my time why is mayor willing to say to isn't he also mask that the nature of children is to put their hands in all kinds of trash and touch the because there's a that's not and until we know otherwise we can turn over and therefore so according to mayor you can combine the with and say it's that this kid is still so why do we have to assume it's a is going to mess me up the even if it's a should be and for the how can you sue so mayor is going to hold you need to have a arrived to create the vader one time like we assumed that this was which was the latter one that we should say is the authoritative version of what held. So all these were standing in the market of right by the door of the you see the door of the bish was in the public area walked out of and saw the he said didn't I tell you once already that when we're learning the best you shouldn't be standing outside because maybe there's a person who needs to hear the vi is going to be all confused because people didn't have a and therefore you needed to be in the base medish to be able to pas for the guy who's confused but you weren't there so what are you doing outside. So was all he went in did not go into the bismet and inside they were talking about which was the later you didn't let me ask the maybe he heard from his father and his father could have heard from all of his learning every 30 days. So my bottom line what was the masa mayor and this that also like and didn't include this and from the fact that he didn't include the other memor must be that that was the latter one that that's the one that rebi stuck with soam that is the bottom line and in this story that the were given mus for standing outside the base medish there's a very important margolia that says that if if someone is in shul and there's a terra being given and you know this already don't stand outside the base medish and make your phone calls in between while the RV is giving his little dri and kashmir or whatever it is because other people will see you outside and not be of that which the RV is saying it's an interesting margalam right here on this story actually I think I misspoke it's not it's a 100 in one location you only have to do one for all of them if you do in one In this last case after the do the and then do the on the and then do its respective as well. So on that when you have the word talking about any kind of doesn't matter how many like it says our split them up the but they said to the positive says as if that was a response to now let's clarify that what do the mean when they said this the is separating the and the which sounds like when you only one of these two categories either the or the learns that from the it's meaning either one of them or the hold the is including multiple animals and therefore one for all of them if you and then you still only make one even though you're covering the d of the between the twoas and rashi over here's lion is that is the braha on the you don't have to make another brah on the koi but it's mashma that the whole issue here is a heik that you don't have to make another braha on the let's stop here because there's a lot to talk about the brahas and I think we'll start tomorrow's shar discussing this idea of braha and this idea of heik by berkus ham midspice