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Chullin Daf 83

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All right, DF pay gimmel Wednesday's daff and we were discussing sumis about potentially getting more than one set of malus for doing one misa a vera even when it's not goofen we brought up ribbuda from the mishnad about githanosha that ribbuda says you're only going to get one set of malus and the gar was dying whether or not it's because of suffic so the last thing we learned about yesterday which brought up that there's more than one version of shittitauda that holds suffic isra and now we're picking it up with the second to bottom line on pay bas that there is another version of that holds suffices that there's an iss of nicer. Now, of course, the whole time when you're warning the guy, hey, don't leave this over. Even if he leaves it over, but as long as he eats that carbon pes before morning, he won't be over the nicer. Moving over to a liking love that he can be that you're not going to get a liking love. But according to had it not been for the fact that it is, you would get malus. But you can even say more basic. It's not a good that he's giving him because it's suffic from this Tana. All right. But the gar is now going to try again that according to sumas doing misaver with one single msa or onera is going to be high for each time because the bry says if you eat two from two different of two different animals you get two sets of so that's the bryson but if you're talking about two completely different mices with two different warning with two different sets of so why would you only You get one set of malcus. It's it's two completely independent averis. We must be talking about one msa and onera. But yet still the tanakama holds that you get two sets of malus. And who is that who holds you're going to get two sets of malus here where it's not? And I should point out that even though these are two different animals, it's still not called because they're not living animals. Or maybe the shot is it's not separate a because of the go the maram goes with that kind of an idea the ra certainly can't go like the mustyah for that you're going to get multiple sets of malus even though it's not which the garra says is not a because and what would be the myuda going to leaz one of these ganoshas is not a kazayas and holds malus for eating this because only the other ganosha had a kazayas but the tanakama holds since you ate the whole gan you're going to get malus even though it's not a because you're eating the whole barrier of this. So it's as the Bryce says you're still it has regular that you always need a four times a year. Whenever you sell an animal to somebody, you got to tell them I already sold the mother animal earlier today or I sold the child animal today. Because these four times a year, there's a lot of purchasing of meat. And therefore, we have to be. So, it's incumbent upon the to let the know that the mother or offspring animal was sold. And the aspect of this is that if you find out later and you weren't told, you get your money back. It's a one of these four times a year of meaning because it's says there was a lot of meat being bought the because you got to eat it. So people would buy a lot of anus of even though it still has a because we're supposed to have the confidence that we're going to be because there's a mitzvah to eat on when is the to tell the he already sold the animal as long as there's no time which Rashi understands that to mean it's the same day but if there is a day in between it's not my problem if the mother and offspring were actually on the same day at that point because even if the mother and offspring animals were sold on different days, you still should tell the because we know that they're going to want to both animals for the same day meaning the sudas and the and therefore there is a responsibility on the m to inform them. The Kashuk over here has a Shila about shades, which could really go anywhere, but just because it says Kali here, so I guess he picks it over here. It's just such an entertaining Shila about a shik date that didn't work. And the reason it didn't work is cuz the guy was way too fat and the girl couldn't be soim. She liked everything else about him, but she couldn't handle the fact that he was so overweight. A year later, the father of this girl bumps into the bucker and he looks great. He got on Empic. He lost all the weight. So the father tells this girl, they go out and they get engaged. Well, now the shad shows up and says, "Hey, I was the one who read this shik. you owe me shades guilt and the father says well that's very nice but that was a different guy that guy was 150 lbs heavier and now it's so I don't owe you the anymore so is to say he's in the but just kind of a fun question okay continues the on these four different times a year we force the even if he doesn't want a sheh why wouldn't he want a sheh well maybe it's not financially could die for him because he was paid to do a but he doesn't have enough business that day to go through the whole process. But since it's those different four days where people need a lot of flesh, we will force the to do his job. Even if the only paid a diner's worth of this thousand diner, we're going to force the to do it. Therefore, if it dies before getting and there is a here has to assume the loss because he gave that dinner and he does not get his money back. the would refund the money because the now can no longer provide the gash in a flesh. So he has to give back the money. We learned in the did not let the know that he sold that parent or offspring animal that day the says the can and go ahead and not worry that maybe there's a problem. We don't haveasher here. So in other words to ask he could just go on his merry way and do his own. The mission says why is it like this animal to the meaning the aim animal to the and the bath animal to the just say one to one and one to the other. Why are we picking which one of the animals to which one of the sides of the for the house spends more than the kala's house. So therefore it's more likely that the bought the bigger of the different animals. And clearly today the mini is switched because the kala's family now pays for the catering bill. The family pays for flap. But it wasn't that way. Then the mission says that we forced the to even if you only had a small amount of money paid but there was no and we're making it sound like the will be forced to first of all why is the and why is the going to sustain the loss if the animal drops dead there was no so no actually happened there was and therefore that's why each one has their respective responsibilities ities. But if you're telling me we're talking about where the actually did and therefore owns that little part of the animal. So when the animal dies the should to take on the you're right. There was never a mash but there was a meaning the gave the animal to somebody else and told him to do a mash on behalf of that. So and that's why it'll work and therefore the can force the and if the animal drops dead the one with the other terret that is and now we explain really just paying is going to be a that's because if I go ahead and I pay for it, but I never took possession of it and now there's a fire in the house is not going to be incentivized to want to save the stuff. So because of that say that is like these are even without the will say is kind rely on the last mission of the par the one day that we say that you can't check it and its child on the same day follows night like all Jewish calendar days and the here is that it's not like which is It's interesting whenever we talk about it's always going to be an adus on and this actually could have been part of the byel when made that wasn't there's an aspect of my tab the bry says zim The whole is written in the par of that we have turning over tone cruise on a certain day that requires an announcement. That's when you make the announcement days that we've already sold either the mother or its offspring and therefore that's a different draw from the and with that and now we get to start as we learn through Adam we should keep in mind whether or not is a he of going to be one of the big shilas it's going to be neg to the onam also the reason for might be or mida by covering the dam we're insuring ing that we're not going to eat the dam that's the rash bam and the clayer talk about that which is negle about whether or not there is a and lists many of them this would be one of them the many other examples he gives over there okay let's get started with the inside there is no and when we say we're not talking about because there are at all for it's only going to be the generally speaking to both and as opposed to that we'll learn about that's and it is to the suffic animal and it might be because there might be other problems having to do with the dirt on my why is there because of you got to put the dirt below and above it doesn't say cover it with dirt in the dirt but here by the you wouldn't be able to put it underneath the dam because where you going to put it remember you're on a misbehav there so it's like considered like it's the ground and it's part of the misb By being the dirt, you're actually adding to the structure of the size of the Hashem told exactly how big the have to be and you can't make any changes at all. So, and if you're not the dirt on the now, it's just dirt there and then you won't be doing the properly on the so based on putting the dirt below above. Maybe that's why there won't be any done by which says no but still you still put dirt on top and therefore therefore you should still do the by doing what you can let's say first and then on top of that I put a since that is already covered by the but where there is now exposed even though there's no offer underneath so even though You can't put the offer underneath on the back because you put the offer on top. And for the no can do but ain't so since it's not royil I can't put the dirt underneath the dam of the the dam of the on the misbeak. There won't be any den of kisu at all. All right, we're still in the middle of the shakaria but we're going to stop here and pick it up with villagaras next time. I do hope to make sure to post tishabove daff beforehand and I'll try not to do it too close to tishabove as I know you're not supposed to learn after tishov. So we'll try our best.