Chullin Daf 72

All right. Shabas is let's pick it up on B. nine lines from the bottom of the um now that we've established the idea of andalua both they're not because and where did we learn these things already because we learned in the 10th paracvvice of course the kash you have to think about right away is why doesn't argara jump to our Mishna why are we jumping to mvice and the rajan they do deal with that ponam the gar is asking now the mikvvice says bola Let's say there's a kay who swallows a ring that's made of metal. Rashi says so that metal ring has a real tum just like the actual itself. So that metal has a status of mamish like a mace. So you think if the guy just swallowed this ring and it's still in his body, it's going to be him from the inside. This cayenne is allowed to go to the mikvah even though the ring is still inside of him and eat his truma. Now hikia once he vomits it out to vitimate it is t and it is mamaim so you see arrive from this mishna mikvi that the fact that it's protects him now how do we know that something that is becomes protected and not becoming t when it's bala because it's nan that same mishna says mace if a guy ate the ring and now he goes into an oil mace viza and he goes through the whole process and then he vomits out the ringa he'll be as good as he was beforehand Because the ring that he has now expelled was never since it was protected since it was tummalu. So now the gar is asking what's for there isn't any but a single ring but if you ate two rings of now you got a law is telling us that the t ring is not going to be the ring because the tuma protects them even when you have these two rings one t onear moving over tofra what about our mishna that's talking about also two things you got the dead uber you got the kaya that's like two things inside the mother at the same time. But our mission is that the dead uber is that midwife. So it's pretty clear from our mission that even though this dead uber is balua, it can still be mama the thing the hands of the l. It's the natural normal thing for the Uber to come out and therefore it's not going to be called Uber but it's not true. the the tabas is also l. to in the same way let the Uber also be considered and not be mama of the folks from they understand this from this dead uber is not aua does protect from that tuma but there's a tuma now decipher what's this had gasha that it's not going to be da but it will be durabon just say that it's durabon you don't have to be so verbose about it because there's a special he's making we shouldn't say that going according to that we're going to spend more time on later in today's daf that holds is a dissa of a uber that's head inside of the mother that it is not but there is and you don't have to come to my time and why would that be true because it's hard to know at what point when this dead is expelled when there's going to be that as we said the between people and animals animals don't have that whole prisoner the animal just comes right out but by a human being there's a process and to know exactly when the tuma takes place is not easy to know and therefore we don't know when that tuma becomes a real tuma and therefore we make that even inside even though there's a tumalua it'll also be in fact if you're telling me there's an isha that is actually legitimately going to be tame why aren't we mama the mother by virtue of the fact that she's got this dead uber inside of her even before the lea why does the hak of the misha say that she's tahra until the fetus comes out and for the Isish is maresh A woman herself knows when it comes out and therefore she'll know when she is tame going forward. Well, let her just tell that. She knows cuz she's margish when the flood comes out. So tell that to the I am now expelling this child and therefore there's going to be a to the woman who's giving birth to this dead uber is a little bit preoccupied to she's howling in pain as a result of this process of expelling this dead uber. She's not telling the oh now there's going to be a ris. That's not where her mind is right now and she's not going to tell the kaya properly. All right. All right. So mention whether or not the m is so says that's for seven days. So we dub that you're not going to be telling me for seven days. We're going to dash that to include other parts of the coffin that are also going to be someone who touches them. We know those of the I don't need a dr and therefore I can use the from isa the starting point is that that dead vad is and therefore is not and we use the fractur how does know that starting point that the dead uber is going to be because so of Benesh can be understood as a dead body inside of another person. So that that deadl is going to be somebody else. That's going to use this talking about that which is in the person is talking about that amount of dam They will have the oil. to nefas. So it's not two different nefas but it's one shear of dam that even if that one shear of dam comes from two different people or two different bodies it will be mama and therefore since he knows that and therefore he freed up the to say by that is dead is going to be back to animals. So now this Uber stuck its foot out and it got chopped off and then the mother was so that part of the buser that's still inside the mother is going to be because as Rashi explains a living animal which it was until that point cannot become tame. But let's say the mother and then I chop off that leg that's sticking out. The rest of the uber which is inside the mother is going to be because the mother was gash. So now it's considered a dead animal inside. the buser is going to be because of the fact that it touched a gisha turning over to bays and now they're explain just like a when you so of this mother who's not a traa but the mother will be mahare that extra a that's sticking out of the mother from its noa he be mayor I don't like If the is itself from noa okay that's a goofa so therefore you want to extend that same logic to say the mother's should be mat that which is sticking out of the mother to be from noa I don't think so now let's take a step back how do you know that whenever you is mat from tumis noa maybe the shouldn't help for it at all because I can make the argument that a not kusher animal you can't eat and also you can't eat a tracer is the same thing as if I do a on a noter animal so that is meaningless it's not going to be so which also is just like a noter animal shouldn't help it which she answers back a noter animal that you're telling me the doesn't do anything because there is no for the ever to do anything the tra is toita And therefore maybe that will help to take care of it. But then he responds but you can get rid of this riot because let's say you have an animal that's born a traa and it never had a shasak. How do you know that theita will help? Well, I'll still tell you that is like aha because that won't help. That's a timer. At least extensively this min of animal is so even though he happens to be a traifita could be but the mission ends off by saying let's say you have an eight-month pregnancy which is not going to live even and a fetus that had an eightmonth pregnancy that we know will not survive is and therefore will not be met. Now this Mishna is used as a riot to the site of RBim that the Briskarov made famous by saying that Rubim said this by his bar mitzvah that traa is not a new isser that's put on top of the buser but it's actually a and therefore that's why the whole Mishna does seem to make sense whether or not the is going to be meta by a tra because it's not a zit is of tarfus it's the fact it's a tra speaks to the ability of the to be mat but we are going to stop here and pick it up with the gammora for Sunday's daf see you next time.