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All right, gimmel Thursday and we're going through different kinds of birds. Let's pick it up on the second line of simlifkitna. The kind of bird called akitna. You got your different flavors. You got your shaki sum. It's got long legs and it's red. That'll be sharia. That'll be a moto bird mima. The way to remember it is another kind of bird which is kusher. It's called a mimma and is similar. However, gout the sum the kind of shika that has short legs and it's red. That's going to be also the way to remember that the short one is going to be not kosher is because a nanus which is one of the sulum of a cayenne who's a or dwarf he can't serve in the bdosh in the same way this kind of bird will be pussle and lastly shaki is a kind of shika that has long legs is urka whether it's green or yellow whatever that color is is also going to be serve and how do I remember that cuz yurukin sulin as we talked about beforehand by birds that get burned and the insides are yo and they are puzzled of yehuda sh the kind of bird that's called shal which is listed amongst the not kusher birds. The kind of bird that actually cops up the fish from the sea, swoops in and catches the fish. Some want to translate it as a coraratas. That kind of birdus and its beauty is in its head because it's got this beautiful plumage on top of the head of feathers. Might be some kind of a peacock that's not kusher. Might be called a hoopo if I'm pronouncing that correctly. The Bryson says this beautiful bird that's not kosher. It's called is actually the bird that brought the shamir. That kind of worm that was able to cut through the stones had this shamir which was brought by this bird when saw this bird he would say. In the same way this bird can go and dive into the water and catch the fish. So too den is going to come for all of us. Nola when he would see an ant Omaroska and even though Hashem is mafarus even the tiniest of creatures meaning that ant which can carry birds can carry a peckle that's much bigger than its own weight represented by the mountains aar lak bot or shar these kinds of birds called lacon and batany are motor to eat whereas shakoi that's where it's the to eat it you're eater the practal either They're kosher or they're not. Why would it be Tully Mic which the Gumar acknowledges? Now the garumar's kash is a little bit strange because lamisa since the kash of eis are tellian a messy. So if your makim has a messy on that kautus you should be able to eat it and if you don't have a messra you can't eat it. But the rajba in terabias gimmel olive says that the lack of a messy is not a reason to asser. So if you have a messy it's mutter then potentially even people from other local could eat it. And this is potentially even the gay lamisa because you might have certain kind of spardom that might even have a messa on which grasshoppers you can eat. So us can we now eat those things and the bes in the sim of kasher does bring both deis. So even bottom line it's not so if it's even though you don't have that but anyway the gar asks for kasha answers in kasha and parisnia since the shaknoy and the batnoy actually look like the parrots in the osna. It'll depend. We have a kash that people make them fuse them. Since the shaknai and the batai are kind of subspecies of the paris and the osna. So if there's a lot of paris and osnas around then it's tak even the shaknai and the batai. But if there's no paris and osnia around then you can even be much and that's all rash. But tyus doesn't like that because if you're telling me that there's actually that shakna and bat are actually paris and osnia kinds of birds and parisnia is the oser. So who cares if it's the location or not? I should beish everywhere and they should always be. So Tyus learns the whole thing is just a gazer and we didn't make the if there was noash of the isser birds being around ku vaku is those kinds of birds but kakusa is sharel malu they would actually give malus for somebody who would eat the kakusa cuz it was not even a sufficer the corva tonabonis the kind of bird known as a tenus is listed amongst the non-cusser birds so za this tench is bu it's called the bis of the bird and Rashi brings it might either be an owl or a bat. You might say it's the interestingly enough is brought twice in the per you have it once in later in that same per amongst the so which one is it? What's the tinis? Is it a bird or is it a sher so you got to say you got to see the context of where is written? Okay, but now the gar is going to bring a similar brace the other way and the bow of a might be a mole. So what's the context of that's going to be so therefore is going to be the mole and not going to be the bat or the owls is corpai of Yehuda which is also part of the list of the nasha birds zoo hakuk and the ddukram has the gear kik which kind of sounds like the ddukum just had a pronunciation of cook I am of course joking but lisa what is this cook or kick it's probably a pelican which is very much not kosher and rakam sharakra the bird called raham is called the sharakra cuz it makes that sound it's like an anamanopia it makes a sharakra noise it may actually be a magpie when you see it's going to be for the world cuz it's going to bring rain not that the bird brings rain but the bird is a simmon for the beginning of the rainy season as it's migrating when this is sitting and makes that noise. That's when you can say it's a simmon for things. You also have a messiah that when it sits on the ground and makes this noise, it can be a sim is going to come. Amazingly, this bird called which sounds complimentary and it's actually the simmon and harbinger of Mashiach. It's still not a kush or a bird. But my gross spoke out from the bunme that there could be messages over here that the mashiach is going to come from the t which is a reference to the people who are the bala that their recognition and coming back to chuva is going to actually bring mushia raid. There was one of these rahams this kind of bird that was in a plowed field and made this noise and a rock came down from above and broke its head. The marsh understands to mean a piece of hail came down as a result of a storm. So what do you see that when a rahim sits on the ground and makes this noise it's going to bring raintorm that rahim was a liar because it was trying to announce that mashiach was coming and since it lied about that it got punished and that's why its head got smashed by the piece of hail the brace says thank you very much when it says every including this other species of and when the Tory adds according to its min which as we mentioned in yesterday's daff is coming to be marba also The Zarzer or the Sneser and the argued but trying to understand this. What do you mean by that? Is the right in front of us that we have to now point to it and identify what it is? You're not telling me anything. When the Tyrus says, what kind of a raven is it talking about? It's talking about that the black one. And it may actually not be a raven. It may actually be a crow. But either way, the terra is talking about that black colored one. The fifth par seems to imply that is black. The one that's deep is called the white one as it has light patches. We have white spots on skin and therefore that's called in the same way. There's a huge contrast between the sunlight and the shade and that comes with the papa. Don't say that an comes at the head of a bunch of pigeons because then you'd say it would be kosher cuz birds that come together with kosher birds are also considered kosher. Ella the dummy. It's the kind of whose head looks like the yateonates hates which according to the las word in Russian means a sparrow hawk mean who? What's the rebu coming to ask? So my what does that mean? Shinka, which according to the it's the shrike bird which can also mean to strangle because it impales its prey on other objects like thorns bird which is also in the list of not kasher birds. It's the white dia it does with its friends which is of course the vert that we've all heard that why is not kosher it's always doing for his friends and the famous yeah sure it's doing for his friends but that's not real is to do kindness for people who are not your friends but the is not kosher because it's only same lists now rigonus it's the angry dab bird nica It's got anger issues of Khan. We keep talking about this list of not birds. It's 24. Of course, there are many more noter species of birds, but there are 24 that are listed in the Tyra. How do you come to that number 24? Is it coming from the list that's in so if you count that list there only going to be 20 birds and if you're counting the one from there's only 21. So how do you ever get to a number 24 you want to say the bird it's not repeated invar and therefore and you can add them meaning you can add one more to 21 birds invari you still don't have 24 you only have 22. So there are four different times when it has this expression in you'll have it in tv and respectively and invaric you'll have it inv respectively there's four different mentions of this according to its men because there's four different times where it says this expression of according to its men by the ayah the anafa the nates so those four extra mentions how if that's the case you just added four more to your 22 now you got 26 not 24 we can knock off one because the d and the are the same if you're telling me that they're two different kinds of birds turning over is only there to add to that which was inra so you might think it' be more inclusive and since the second one inert is going to be more inclusive. It's being marb more. Why would it leave out the dish? It's got to be that they're the same kind of bird. Otherwise, it would make no sense that we would leave one out of safet. It's very interesting how the gar calls safer because it's only there to repeat and amplify which was already earlier in the okay. So, let's say you knocked off one. So, now you've come down from 26 to 25. You still don't have the magical number 24. The ayah and the d are also the same. same point. It's coming to only add more. So, so now we've knocked off two more. Now, we're down to the magical number of 24. That's the list of how many are in the Torah. So, why does the terra have to write both of them? The same. Why are we switching? It should be good for me to see on the terra that bird is. So nobody could potentially argue about the cautious of this bird. People could call it by different names and the only cuz you call it d and he calls it an ayah. And now we're going to have a mak as whether or not you can make a grilled chicken sandwich out of this kind of bird. So of that's why invar the terror lists the ayah and the dia and therefore no one's going to have that both the ayah and the d are both going to be not kusher. So we've got a number of 24 birds and rav says it's because the du and the ra are the same and the ayah and the d are the same. So mace the Bryce says llama nishnu why are all these different nkosher birds repeated in safer after they were already in safer vira beha shua lagami animals this unique animal called the shua that has the two spines that's not kosher it's not mentioned anywhere inra is only mentioned for the first time in safer and therefore it makes sense that the ter would repeat an entire para just to add this one thing which is also only mentioned in not inra because it's adding a new bird so just like by the animals we're adding a new animal to the para in order to create new issu. So therefore the raw invar is not just another name for the duh but it has to be another bird cuz we're adding a newer says no by the animals we're talking adding a new specy of not kusher animal but by the birds we're only coming to clarify and that there are 24 not kusher birds in that list is not like why is it called which sounds like you can see it canceive from very farmer that uses the ayah because it has such good sight and we learned in a media it can see the nea inel from so far away it has incredible vision that's why the raw and the eye are the same it's interesting we're saying this my of this bird that it can see from so far away says mice it's a non-casher bird and the lesson for us is that if you're outside of and you're looking at the quote unquote noa initis you're looking at some negative thing that's going on in Israel. You have no right to your opinion if you're on the ground in Israel. F sure maybe you can have an opinion but but it sounds like to sit there and be the armchair politician and be a medit makes you a nutcasher bird. Now if you're telling me according to Bravo that raw is the same as the so the du is not the same as the raw like we said beforehand and therefore the total number of not kasher birds is going to be less because if it's all the same the total number of birds would be less than 24 it would only be 23. But now we got a problem. So The list in should only be bigger because it has to add. How can it not list the D all three of these are all the same? And now since the is the same as the according to the D is not the same as the ayah because again if it was the same you'd have a list of only 23 and not 24. But the problem is why when we say other kinds of similar birds to the ayah but invar it only says it. And since the list of not kasher birds invar has to be the more inclusive one. How can it leave out the mu of the ay? So therefore it must be that and d are actually one and the same. And the mu of the ayah are actually in sepherv under the category of dia. The corno the raw and the da are the same. And he also says the eye and the d are the same. But he also says the raw and the are the same elish veri all four of these are all the same. And therefore he's connected ra that holds that there are 24 different kinds of birds in that list and we could be okay with that doesn't have to be 24 in the list we learned in another there are 100 different kinds of nutcusher birds in the all in the category of there are 700 different kinds of nutcusher fish and there are 800 different types of nutcusher grasshoppers and as far as nutcusher birds you can't even count there's so many frankly what do you that you can't count. There's only 24 different kinds of non-cusher birds. And when we say 24, that means according to Rob, but as we just said according to BFO, there's going to only be 23. What the Bryson means by there's no limit to the amount of Kusher birds. There only 24 different types of noter birds or 23 according to the Bryce. There are more not animals than ones. That's why the is only the kosher ones, the smaller list. There's more kosher birds than not kosher birds. If we always list the smaller list and you always have to teach things in the most concise smallest way possible for the sake of the rab mentioned even from the miri in that the idea of is that a darian has re in his dra to make aug that he shouldn't overspeak because then the talid won't be able to learn. So folks, keep your speeches short. You can eat a kosher bird based on Missyra. And the way Rashi says it is, if you remember a person who you trust was eating it, that's enough to say it's going to be kosher. And a hunter is is to say that my teacher who taught me hunting told me this bird is kosher to eat. Now on the surface, this just seems to be in discusses why should this be any different? Why do I need to have a of the never requires experts? And that seems to be what's going on over here. As the Gumar now continues to say Omari that says teacher had to have been a bucky of 24 different kinds of not kosher birds and identifying them and what they are then you can trust that teacher and and therefore that if this bird that they just got is not on that list and therefore would be kosher when is saying that the teacher of this is that talking about the teacher who's aim or the teacher who's another hunter it's a little unclear Bishma side. If you're telling me that the teacher of the side is another hunter, it makes sense that he would actually know all the different species. Ela is he knows a lot of tyra. So bishu the may have the messy on the 24 different kinds of nasher birds in how does he actually know what the birds look like and know which other birds are similar to them? Where do you get that expertise unless he was actually a hunter himself? We're talking about the sad's rebi being another hunter shimino. And here's what we'll call it. and pick it up with Friday's daff for ton raona next