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Chullin Daf 62

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All right. This is Tuesday's DA. We're picking it up at the very bottom of moving over to Alfa Bucky. Let's say you're a Bucky in knowing them and their names. According to Rash, we're specifically talking about the Paris and that yesterday we determined they each have one of the Sim Tahara, but they each have a different sim of Tara, but they only have one. So, if I know exactly what the Paris looks like, and I know exactly what the os looks like, and I find a bird that has one simmon, It'll be tar because I know it's going to be kusher. It's not one of the 24 birds because only two of them have that single simmon parisnia. But say and if I don't really know exactly what the parisosia look like now I got to be nervous. So if I find a bird with bim it'll be t. However, if you have a bird that has two simash then it'll be tarak as long as you know what an looks like. So you shouldn't accidentally be eating a raven which also has tusan of tara and is specifically listed in the tyra as a tree of birth. is it only that you need to know what looks like but you don't have to worry about what any other bird looks like that has tim which is listed amongst the non-casher birds but the terra adds according to its kind that there are other birds that are not kush what's it talking about which has the same number of sim andzar they in this location used to eat them they have other they have the zechar says back there for that because the zars is a kind of and it's going to be user or lemu the terra when it says that the minis leavana it's coming to include this white snoonness which has the same amount of simara as an iv even though it's not kosher they said they eat it thereabl because it has other simara of the corkabl You're right. They'll bear. But what do we see here? That there are other tra birds that have multiple sim which corresponding to the so just because I know what an looks like. If I find a bird with two simara, I still might be I still may have to be what meant is if you know what an looks like in all the other flavors of which is going to be this other or leavana. There'll also be the category of even if you're not a bucky of the simum of a paras and if you find a bird that has one simmon of kashis it's going to be kosher as long darus as long as it doesn't have the dreesa we spoke out using its claws somehow exactly what that means but that sim of tus the fact that it's darus can't have that if you want to be the bird and inami as long as it has one of the money you'll be okay so hydra of my what are what are what are you going to say that you're not allowed to be m with only one single sim of cautious unless you can identify the parasia I'm not mim because what are we worried about a guy who doesn't know what a parisnia look like you shouldn't perceive they're not even here so we're not going to be oh maybe you're going to eat the parisnia if you find a bird with simash and it doesn't have issue it's going to be kosher don't talk me because they're not around town those are in the wilderness somewhere a bird that scratches is allowed to be used for tus meaning the birds that it has to bring as part of the process of tus mitsra it can be one of these the zooi snoodness and this is that white snoodness that we were just having a real about whether or not it's a bird if it has a white stomach but where does have their that's its belly its stomach is going to have the color of yor yellow between who answers it. This is another version of what had said if this is where that's when the stomach is white. That's where you have theness. So lava that's why the brace is saying that the is talking about the lavana. What did the brace mean? The brace was everything some other kind of snoonness which is completely black. That's the one we were coming but we weren't saying it was dafa white. It was just saying it wasn't totally black. Okay. Next topic that kind of bird called a tily. You can't bring it as a carbon a but because a t is only going to be kher once it reaches a certain age whereas the can only be used when it's very young. So what is saying is that this til is going to have those that the tussle is only going to be for when it's very young that those can only be for a carbon once they become older asks from the ninth par of turning over if the bird drinks from the itles the water because it's so if the bird drinks from the itles Why is it possible? Because Rashi explains there's a backwash that goes in making it into a that was done with the water. So therefore, because the ya drinks the water but doesn't dribble any backwash back into the kali. Now visa, if you're telling me that a tussle is kind of a miss should list both of them. Well, there's a difference. The tussle drinks the water but still does some backwash and goes back in. In other words, they're part of the same category clap carbonas but not legab mitsas of whether or not they spit water back in. So I spoke out to Rashi here about the fact that you're doing mala with the water rashi earlier in talks about how it's not once the water goes into the bird's mouth and since it loses its status of you can't any longer use it for the meat in the burim in wants to know why is there not a bay here there's only a little of that water that's not going to be the and says the aside about giving in other words can remove a status it could say that this thing that's not kosher is no longer not kosher but add a to something is not going to happen. We can't add the status of to this water and therefore even the smallest amount will ruin the meat. These different kinds of birds are going to be kosher to bring on them as because they're considered like proper tyrant. The Mishna in the 14th paragam and in the 11th parak of para says the ter requires using an a for different aid and we're very specific about what kind of a you can use of yavan of you can't use this kind of a you can't use the a of whatever that is of and not the blue of any kind of a that has a certain additional name that makes it specific can't be used as an a when you're doing the aid with it. Now if the tyrant says you got to use a tyran for the it's got to mean the push torn but not these other tyran that have unique names in the same way that we limit the aay went out of its way to give it the simple name without having the unique name then ple then if you now use it with this kind of additional specific name well then it's going to be ple but the titsani tyrn weren't given that special name before matantyra they were just all called tyran back then and therefore when the Tyra says tyran it's talking about that kind of tyrant too which is totally terrific Omar hani kushani tutaniuaru these tutsi tyran are called tyran in tutsian in that location so the tyr can just call it tyrin and not have to say tutian because it depends on the location and therefore the ty can simplify to me it sounds like if you like Chinese food and you go to China can you just order food I'll let you think about that one of yhuda hani k de khalifa now rashi tiches these K are grasshoppers. Tyson doesn't like that shot because we're not talking about grasshoppers in this kamar. But we'll touch it that way. But we'll touch it like rashi kasi. But if you find them amongst the cabbage they'll be because then we assume these kes are not kusher. So you can only eat the kes that are not cabbage patch kids. And we get malcus because they are called which the terror says specifically you're going to get malus for it. Is because it's kosher but is whatever those kinds of means specifically are. I remember which sounds like that we're and therefore it should be not kosher. Marda is a fa whatever a marda is is going to be a sophici saying there are eight different cases that we are misopic about the huga the suga the haruga the tushi the ma which mentioned earlier and the barnafa so what is the reason they all have a suffic as we've been saying they have a certain kind of nichl kite as long as you use a knife but you can't do with your hand and we're just specific whether or not that's going to be considered cork when it's only what about ducklav it couldn't peel its own so marshm put it into the sunl and once it got softer it peeled so you see that even if it's being peeled with some sort of effort it's still going to be considered cautious why are we so specific about those eight birds by marshmall once it was softened it could be done even by hand but by the case of these eight different birds even though it's softened when mikl this is really one of the eight. It's the martyr bird. It seems like there's a between the male and female of this min whether or not they'll be kosher or not. And if you look in Typhus in Nidita and Nun Tyus brings two different ether it's like this rashi that says it's a difference between male and female which Tyus then says in another terrace he doesn't like that so much because it's not mistra that in the same min depending on the gender of the bird it'll be kosher not kosher so he has a different explains that it could be the two deis of tyus is is the same that we've been mentioning whether or not kash are a sim or a you can hear there might be between a zer and a within the same min if the sim kash are a siba this is what makes it kasher But if it's only a simmon to its kashas of that min, it's much harder to hear. There should be a kilik between male and female based on a simar. Even though repa said it might be kosher, we're going to still answer it because of because we saw that it was being dar which we said is for sure the simmon of being a tom bird. Bahu gusa thisa is really the same thing as the gerusa which is not going to be kosher. Now over here there is a very famous and important rashi. when when Rashi is fearing here. Take a look at the in the middle of that maybe it's going to be dyus because just like in this story that they only discovered that it was dyus after the fact therefore we need a miser for birds where so whereas by all other kinds of animals that we eat fish and meat that have specifically spoken out simony kash and the tyra since birds are not so clear what they're simon Aar sukrashi bottom line is there has to be a messyra and that's why there's a tumml about turkey even though ruba duruba of all the piskim hold that turkey is fine but there are deists that hold you're not allowed to eat turkey because there's no messy on that bird and it's based on this rashi right here that we can only eat birds if there's an existing messyra shor and is shar but peris and is going to be user the sim was supposed to remember the difference between that cuz pair is rashia because apparently the pairs was a bad person so I can know so it'll be easier for me to remember that's the traa one of huna buna is shar but parza is and how am I supposed to remember that parva was a sorcerer of some kind and therefore it's easier to remember that it's not kosher if it stands up straight and eats it's going to be if it bends down and eats which is obviously a bad thing to do and therefore it connotates the bird that's called the wine drinker is the wine mixer Moving over to so you can remember these two different kinds of birds based on that simmon. Then we'll stop here. Pick it up from Buda