Chullin Daf 24

All right, daf dalet, Sunday's daf. Picking it up from the Mishnah on chof gimmel amud bet, as we continue in these series of mishnayot that are comparing halachot. So, the Mishnah kosher b'parah pasul b'eglah. What's kosher for a parah adumah is going to be pasul for an eglah arufah. And and likewise, kosher b'eglah is pasul b'parah. So, what are we talking about? Don't worry about it in the braisa it says parah b'shchitah k'sheirah. If you shecht the parah adumah on har hazeitim like you're supposed to, that'll be kosher. However, if you do an arifah on the parah adumah, b'arifah it'll be pasul. And likewise, eglah b'arifah, you chop off the head of the eglah, that's going to be what's kosher. However, b'shchitah it'll be pasul. Nimtza as kosher b'parah pasul b'eglah and and likewise kosher b'eglah is pasul b'parah. Freaks the Gemara similar kind of kashas we were asking beforehand. Let's make kal v'chomer. We take parah k'sheirah b'arifah and kal v'chomer, what's the kal v'chomer on my eglah she' lo chukshar b'shchitah but yet still chukshar b'arifah? Parah she' chukshar b'shchitah ein aidin she' chukshar b'arifah. Moving over to amud aleph. Amar krah special gezeirah hakasuv v'shachat. You got to do shchitah and also says v'chukah. This is its rule. So, b'shchitah ein you dafka have to do the parah adumah with a shchitah b'arifah lei and you cannot do it with an arifah. So, he yes, you could have said a kal v'chomer, but we've gezeiras kasuv k'neged. Aivah k'heged tzei b'chukah. Leidah shein kal v'chomer. But I'll show you we do say kal v'chomer. V'gam b'yom kippurim, when it comes to the goral of the of the se'ir la'azazel, tzei b'chukah. V'tanya v'so chotas that we darshin had goral is a chotas v'einah sheim is a chotas. You you can't just simply decide which one should go la'ashem which one should go la'azazel. You have to tear off b'kalpi. You got to take it out of the goral over there. And this drasha is coming k'neged the kal v'chomer. She' yakol v'alei din hu b'makom she' ein kidush hagoral. Madach by a case where there is no goral. Like a regular time where you're bringing more than one carbon. Like an isha yoledes, she's bringing both the chotas and the oilah. The halacha is kidush hashem, you can decide which one should be which one. But makom she' kidush hagoral, in a place where the goral does affect it like by yom kippur, ein aidin she' kidush hashem. V'cheirah kal v'chomer should say that I should be able to dictate which animal should go la'azazel which one go la'ashem. Tom v'leim b'so chotas hagoral is a chotas v'einah sheim is a chotas. So, you see say cover even though it says now if you're saying the Gamara time is like a hot finish you see you do say cover even though it says now if you're saying the Gamara time is like a hot finish you see you do say cover even though it says now if you're saying the Gamara time is like a hot finish you see you do say cover even though it says now if you're saying the Gamara time is like a hot finish you see you do say cover even though it says now if you're saying the Gamara time is like a hot finish you see you do say cover even though it says now if you're saying the Gamara time is like a hot finish you see you do say cover even though it says now if you're saying the Gamara time is like a hot finish you see you do say cover even though it says now if you're saying the Gamara time is like a hot finish you see you do say cover The other way because we were only talking about the para Duma until now but now the egg law should be kosher I either and it's the same kind of cover hammer partial still kosher English share and it didn't show the says I'm a crowbar egg law by and the light so we have a classic you can't say the cover hammer so the next mission kosher possible of him and kosher possible so what is this thing that's going to have a difference in the hand the moment if a coin is a moment you can't However if he just gets too old he'll still be kosher however the moment a lady can do his respective even though he's however so sure is going to be a problem for a lady you got to be between 30 and 50 to do the of the lady so kosher possible of him and kosher possible so we know how do you know about these that a lady has age requirements to do his the turn around because the price is I share so which implies a mute or me Ben commission It sounds like the lady should be should no longer be working any longer in the so the lady might also a lady is going to be possible with a moment if it didn't actually make sense because I can't show them yet still moment possible so cover hammer the lady is a moment and it didn't show moment possible so so I share this after the lady so the lady continues Is price of you can possible maybe a cohen would be puzzled even with his own shonom meaning he gets too old to do the aveda which is kind of an amazing half of me if you think about it because Aaron a cohen was 83 when he started the aveda. The zakasha the parshas yes if is the one who asks this kasha that what would be the half of me that you would age out for the kahuna. Some say for this is a kadesh that since sadikim like moshe and Aaron didn't lose their physical strength even though they had age so some say for a kadesh that that would not passel even in the hava mina because they still had their strength about them. We're saying that there should have been a half of me that a cohen should be aged out from being able to do the aveda because of the new and shame woman passel by him. Shonom is yet still passel by him. So Aaron should have a woman passel by him. Aaron was a more common because a woman passel them from the aveda. You know you should have passel by him last year but why I share the cohen stuff that did by the Levite that age matters. So we're saying in the world of shidduchim age is just a number and therefore it won't matter the fact that the cohen number two old. Now these are about how old a Levite has to be to be kosher for the aveda was said by the mishkan. So now this is a woman cohen. Maybe this will also be by mishkan shiloh and also by the base of migdash. Tom of the Levite Levite Levite Levite massa. The torah tells me that this age bracket of between 30 and 50 are to do the aveda and the aveda massa the carrying work that the Levite did. And Levite of the cohen those age limits are only going to be when the Levite are carrying the things on their shoulders. This is where there's a between the rabonim and rashi about whether or not the aveda that we're talking about is also extending to the other kinds of aveda beyond the shira and the aveda of cohen. In other words when we're talking about the Levite aging out of the aveda does that mean out of a job in gansin or out of just certain aveda that Levite and cohen rashi and rabonim. It continues the brice of cohen and Levite cohen and Levite shonom from 25 years and up that's when he does the aveda of cohen and Levite shonom when he's 30. So you have shalom shalom shalom shalom shalom shalom you can't say 30 once you said 25. You have shalom shalom shalom shalom shalom shalom which one is it 25 or 30? It's a stira. So how do you reconcile the so the brice of cohen said shalom shalom you train and you learn when you're 25 and shalom but you do the avodah in practice when you're 30. Any talmid that does not see any hatzlacha in his learning after 5 years, it takes 5 years to really be able to master. Rashi has an interesting lashon over here. Rashi says refers to he forgets his learning. It's not 5 years, it's 3 years. So it's 3 years instead of 5 years is This is what the bring to explain the mishna etc. The different different ages for different limudim. The and the Tanna Kamma who argues with Rebbe Yishmael says the sheer is 5 years. What does he do with this pasuk in Daniel about sefer Kasdim? The Kollel was an easy language. Why does he say 5 years for Leviim? As opposed to the Hilchos Leviim which are much more complicated and therefore you need more time, you need a full 5 years. A Kohen when he is in his gadlus and he has his sa'aris until he gets old, which we're going to see what does he mean. Those will be the sheer that the Kohen is kasher l'avodah. But even during that time if he has a mum, he can't do the avodah. But Levi between 30 and 50 he can do the avodah. He'll only have a psul of shanim as opposed to mum. That's only going to be in the Mishkan. Al BaShilo u've'Beis Elokim. But the Mishkan Shilo or in the permanent Beis HaMikdash the Leviim are not going to have a problem unless they can't sing. Rebbe Yishmael how do you know this? Turning over to Maseches Beitzah. It sounds like all the Leviim were even the ones who were old. Now the braisa said the Kohen could do the avodah until he gets old. But it doesn't give us a number. So Rebbe Yishmael said until he starts shaking. And Rashi says he shakes because he's too weak as he gets too old. That's when we tell him to stop doing the avodah and we take away his car keys. The mishna in the eighth perek of Mikvaos says Ba'al Keri she'tov Ba'al Keri who maybe had tashmish for the mice and now he has to go to the McVoy to total of the time. Let's say he didn't first go to the bathroom because he had to when he does urinate and tummy because we're afraid that he'll be mice and more zero and that will make him a tummy him again. If he's sick or he's old then he's going to be tummy but he'll be a little worry he'll be tired. But if he's young and healthy he'll be fine he won't be tummy again. This is the reason why we're talking about this because of the sick now aspect. Yellow dot comma until when is he considered a yellow dot? So I'm going to be low I'm going to be a canina culture I'm going to be a rag lay a kiss for health men out of an element alley. If he can stand on one leg and take off his shoe or put on his shoe. As long as he's not too old that he can't do that then he's considered young enough. I'm going to love all of the canina show how you been showing him shadow. When the canina was 80 by your own mirror rag lay a kiss for health men out of an element alley and he can stand on one leg and take off and put on his shoe. I'm going to be a canina common with shaman the canina immediately I'll do see. You know why I'm able to do this because my mother give me hot water and oil and that give me such a kiss now and I'm going to leave bases that's why I'm so strong even though I'm 80. Turn around on the smell of the canina once a person is the smell of the canina meaning they have a full beard or they're really have a full beard. Really I say I should let see but it doesn't just mean to have it for the almond can do all kinds of different services for the community the functions the functions of the sea board. The lay rate lift me at table and he can also down for the almond for Lisa's copper and if he's a kind he can do me a message I got to love it and when is a kind going to be really for a vitamin she have a straight Cyrus even younger doesn't have to have a full sick night as long as he is a god. I'm going to be a mayor I'm going to be a knee which is always a busy for me to take another base of angle etc. And she had been a stream he's not going to be really a vitamin until he is 20. You don't just say when he's bar mitzvah. I'm going to have a kiss that my time in the ready why does he have to be 20 the kiss the young me do as I love you I'm in been a stream show no my love and that's a kind of a Lexus base hash him. Okay so the person seems to say you got to be 20 so he the kiss the time to come understand this person the next shiny that person is talking about a supervisory role. So the time to come is masking for position of supervision you got to be 20. I the whole high trouble of you accept it's not talking about can I talking about the VM and we're talking about can I not going to be a show me a lady don't worry about showing me a lady a stream for our can I miss the new can I VM the second man we can learn one to the other they're kind of interchangeable. This is the possible that I can who has a mom can't do the mechanical even if he is a time meaning is not a moment when will this kind of kosher for the Cyrus but his other brothers the shouldn't let him do until he gets to be 20. Because it's a design for the have this kid who's just a boy do the do the with him but it sounds like from this price of that it was the themselves that didn't let the under 20 do the but the did not pass so you could be maybe this price is like she does a few possible because he holds that a under 20 is not even possible it was only the other that possible and Rebbe is like possible he holds that a who's only boy not 20 years old is possible from doing the with a whole and this price is going like she does which is the Rebbe's price of a day I'll pick it up with the mission from Monday's half.