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All right, today's as we continue
through per
and now let's pick it up from
the two dots in the middle.
The Mishna told us about the birds that
are not which one of the examples were.
So we have
mandard
al-shus because they were named after
king hordis who rashi says was the first
to actually raise and domesticate these
birds hardus al-shman which was some
sort of a place where these birds came
from of kahana and I once saw these
birds shitzer dur pesa they were
standing in 16 rows each row was the
width of a millara kiri kiri they were
calling out kitty kitty which means
master master. So
kiri kiri. One of those birds was not
calling out kir kiri. So one bird said
to the other one suma kiri kiri you suma
which is a way of calling him an insult.
You blind idiot say kiri kiri like the
rest of us are saying. So omra she said
back to her suma kiri biri you're the
blind fool and you should rather say
kiri biri which means my master and my
slave. So,
so the servants of King Hordes took that
bird and she the whole slave thing for
Heris was a bit of a sensitive subject
of Ashihanina
said to me that this whole story can't
be true. It's just mil because the birds
didn't speak.
Is it really just called this milahana
said this
what meant to say is that said this was
done with mil which is like the words of
sorcery. Then the said
and not bird from doing with it.
So a bird is
however
kosher birds can be called it but
is that so true? Let's find out.
This is reference to making a pest. So
what kind of birds are we talking about
that you're making to even not birds?
And is referring to like the winged
grasshoppers which says no it's not
true.
is and is the is being mar than
non-coosher birds and the grasshoppers.
All right, let's try again
says
that all of these different creatures
will be praising Hashem. So,
and therefore you see once again that
seeper is a reference to even
non-coosher birds and likewise
says same thing lighter is
buter only means kosher birds. Let's try
again to the puzzle seurf when the Torah
is listing all the different species
that came into the ta of nayak. So my
love
shouldn't we assume again that seeper is
referring to both kosher and non-coosher
birds and kaf is referring to
grasshoppers
like the way we answered before and that
seeper is a reference to only kosher
birds and the kaf is including not
kosher birds and the grasshoppers try
from this
is saying that the nva will happen that
in those end times by the animals will
feast on the armies of go so my love
which the says
asked and answered Let's try this one.
Moving over to Alfuraya
that on its branches are living the
birds of Shamayimaray
are including even non-cooser birds.
They're called but they're not regular
birds. So you can't now define the word
seepra to also include not kosher birds.
All right to m try from this pussyra.
You're allowed to eat any kosher bird.
And the very fact we have to say to
that's redundant if you're telling me by
definition is tora which the says
there are not kosher birds that it's
coming to and my what's that referring
to what's that so my love what is this
that we're talking about if you're
telling me it's a tra bird that's going
to die on its own well
because it says you're not allowed to
eat a trait
if you're telling me it's the bird it's
already included it's written you
wouldn't need to tell me a new is about
the traus because we already know that
the PK says
maybe you want to suggest we're talking
about a properly gashan bird of a mitz
and really that's what the is coming to
that cold seur you're allowed to eat but
not that seeper of the mitzy mayka we
already know that is from the end of
that same pk or technically the next pk
because the bis ism
that these are the ones you're not
allowed to eat
so it's already included so why do I
need to have the coldra sounding like
there's something else is going to
answer and for the
It is coming to that.
Why don't we set sign that the coer
toyra that you're allowed to eat is
coming to the traa
the same idea that you have multiple sur
don't just tell me you know it already
clearly it's okay to have multiple sur
everything
this is an example of a dra that's only
l to the same kind of an idea
and what's the idea we're talking about
here what's the Indian it's the so we're
not going to talk about the traus and
the veil we're going to talk about
another and that'll be the of the
mitzvah and you'll be love or love both
the essay and the lace essay all right
one last tshma
So, what do you mean these that are
alive?
Maybe the is a reference that they can
be alive in your mouth, meaning they're
allowed to be in your mouth and they
could be eaten because they're kosher.
Must be there are some kind of sear that
are not allowed to be eaten because
they're not kosher. Oh, so now you have
a seur that means a nakosher bird. Says
no.
That means
it has all of its limbs. But you can't
make the argument that a seer even
refers to nakosher animals. But cyha
that same puz says referring to these
kosher pyramis
you have tra birds that can't be used in
the tahara of a mitz even if they're
technically a kosher bird
the mute of traa birds is already from
the fact that they have to be alive and
a traa is anaya so it must be that the
fact it's kosher cannot become a traa
well that'll depend though
that it can't live what are you going to
now say well the say woodwork
but it's not going to live like we're
saying what are you going to say it's
not going to live you can't call it
we can learn this even from the and not
even need the talking to beim
there are some of that are not there for
kapara but they're just to allow the
person to eat the kajim and actually go
into the mdash and an example of such a
den would be an of
so by making them the same what the
Bryce is doing is pling a traa bird from
being used in the tower of the mitzy. So
therefore the kash and the is not coming
to be tra because we would learn it from
the vishmo of
the kash and the pusk is coming to be
mayat the birds that are user from the
tahar mitz so what are you talking about
which one of the two birds that the
mitzer brings would need now to have a
mute to not use a bird from
if you're saying it's the bird that
you're supposed to send away which is
what you do with the mitsra you send
away one of these birds So
the Tyra wouldn't want you to send away
a bird that's which will now create a
problem for other people because they'll
unknowingly have from the bird that they
catch. Allah must be that the mit is
coming for the bird which you're
planning on which is the other one of
the two birds because people won't make
a mistake and there and therefore
there'll be no taka but yet still the
Tyra is telling us over here that you're
not allowed to use the stick of bird for
this purpose.
Leotees.
You're not allowed to pair another bird
to the live one of the mitzer before it
was sent away. And then now use this new
pair to be matire another mitzer. No,
you're not allowed to do that. That's
what the t's coming. So, which one of
these second mitzer birds would be
needing to have the mi to be m using the
unscent bird from the previous mitz?
That bird now is sent away because of
the first mitz. So obviously you can't
she that I have to send it away because
I have the prior
must be talking about the one you're
sending away and that's what the coming
from or a third of papa
the is coming those birds that were of
meaning they were swapped as payment for
the purpose of it
that they're going to become like it
whatever you generate from that is going
to be user like thear itself. So the
kash and the pyram that you need to have
is being those birds in the tower of
mats that were
so which one of the birds that the mats
is using do we need to have this mi of
because it's also and the final fourth
ram
once again back to our murderous bird
that the is you're not allowed to use
that kind of a bird that killed somebody
for the tower of
What's the case that Rava is talking
about if it's already been
so you got to bring it to Rashi says
it's push that's not right for because
you got to give it
raising about where it's before there's
a which one of the two birds are we
talking about that we need to have this
I got to bring it to so of course I'm
not going to send it away because
I have this existing that I got to take
it to and that's why I need to have the
mute okay the mission had
Let's say you have a noter bird sitting
on the eggs of a kosher bird or the
other way around. If the kosher bird
sitting on the eggs of a non-casher
bird, you are from the
because
I don't have the kosher bird. But
if your kosher bird is sitting on eggs
of non-coosher species
because I'm dealing with a kosher bird,
why would the just because it's sitting
on non-coosher eggs? Which answers of
kahana? You got to take them for
yourself.
is only if those are take for yourself
that you can eat them not that you can
take it for your dogs because they're
not kosher
actually say this we're quoting on that
if the mother bird is afra
and how does the Bryson know that
that was the place where the memor was
head over of khana fractur the lakisha
why don't we compare the traa mother
bird to the ta chicks and say what
just by making that heish alone should
be enough of a reason to know you're
going to be putter turning over
if you're telling me that there's no
mitzvah whenever the mother bird is
going to be to eat then
why do I even need a m to say the mother
bird is not going to be if it's from a
not kusher species so clearly that's not
the rule that whenever there's going to
be aur by the it's automatically aur for
the mother as well. Now this is the
Bryce that says that is not neg if the
actual is
if the mother of these are
so clearly the Bryce is not learning
as saying that you have to be able to
eat the
what the BA means is
a non
where the mother is a traa then you're
still to do the
let's say stick a hand into the nest
underneath the mother
of the
what's the pretty wild case but what's
going to be the
do we say that if you would stop right
now and leave things in their present
mat without finishing the actual little
are going to be and therefore
and therefore from a
since I can finish it as long as I do
don't do any but I'm in the process over
here I can complete the and make them to
eat
To which the says
next,
can I make a mother and the eggs and
therefore
do feathers and Rashes?
So these are disconnected feathers. Can
they be aim
or what about nonfertilized eggs? Can
that be a between the mother and her
eggs? or
two rows of eggs or
would that be a case of a in all these
cases we're gonna say
a dove is on the eggs of a tussle which
is a kasher bird that looks like a dove
mahu tussle mahu so to that
bring you from our Mishna
or
but it sounds like if both species are
ker even though they're different. It
sounds like you would be like because
maybe the mash that you should make is
that only by a kaira who has the tea to
sit on these bait and that are not her
own but other kinds of birds maybe would
beam. Now let's get into
so my time. Why is by the because he
learns
means to gather
the
says
the zer will gather in its young and it
did not and it did not produce more and
it also says over there got to be a
mother bird looking after its own.
that over there the bird laid her eggs
and hatched and gathered them in the
shade. But what do you see over here?
That we're putting the zer together with
the natural mother bird because of that.
And therefore
this is
why would even have to tell us this is
the only talked about
never even had a
just to tell you the
comes to tell you that's not true
but a male bird any other kind of bird
that's not a and then be everybody's
going to ask me it's well why would have
to say that it's posit
so it's of course saying any other birds
are going to be from Because
comes and tells us not that way and we
have a Bryce that supports us that is
patron in this. All right, I think we're
going to stop down by the Mishna. A
little early and we will pick it up from
here.