Chullin Daf 136

All right, David V. The second day of Russia Shan is Dav. We have been discussing the dinner of Rabaloy that potter's chutfis except for all the exceptions which have been quite a few namely truma and kala pa bra muza and now we're up to micer that even though ostensively holds that when it comes to he should be put there but he's by messer as it says on the top line of the garra of which is that we would say but also which is and therefore you are even if you are in the What's the we should dish from the singular how about the whole last paric and therefore you should be put with this and to say teaches us that we are when it comes to pract had it not been for that I would think that you would learn from a and therefore patter from matonis mruma because we've already established that truma is when it comes to autis mentioned in the past is a suffic from evasive angle if that's a d suffic or if it's just the way it is that you always are mach but lisa we can make the same kind of shva to truma of nina which would be to which who's been talking now is masking. You're right in we should learn that from and therefore that special that is on the butcher even if he's not the bum on the animal. Next in the list should also say that you are putter from that's owned in which is a that's what the rationale should be but still which is going to be even in a case of because that would imply even why is there amazingly it's a which of course typhus it's a mitzl why would I need to have a mut from hutzards tyis over here says well we would have a half a beak which is even obvious there's a more expansive version of this tyus on pal and basra where tyus speaks out howurum may not be actually a mitzvah at all it can actually be ava on the person it's a mitzvah on the gavra so that becomes an important issue when you're learning about next in the list should be put according to when it comes to autis on the begged because alphagav which would imply and therefore you're putter when it comes to a big so there's a even for a jointly owned for a different a like a talis talis that's borrowed you are putter from sus for 30 days for that next m also if you jointly own a building according to lawy you not have to put it on the even though it's a singular roof which would imply but so what's the we make from the season that you are put from creating a m there's the end of the list now lean I totally am not masking to the whole that is making over here that all of these situations where would say that the would potter you when it comes with the and that when you have now the somehow that I'll show you in my time wiser because of the so that sounds like the lion is not taking precedent the is winning the day here. It also says so it sounds like the lush and rab doesn't mean it's including multiple people who own the same animal. It's just all yidden in the mis I don't agree to what over here would because the price says now it's must be because he was learning from which tells us you're telling me as also had that would be that the grain is Truma. How could he learn from Truma? learn the same from Truma to be view must be that it must be the whole is wrong and even by Truma would now fract if it's true that is going to learn the from Truma it's in it should be the same it's in to which the in that's not the way holds there is no of mat outside of and we have a bracelet to support that mat Why would he limit it only to not outside of says now that if it's true that we're going to learn from amazingly before you take off your wool it should all have a status of so it back to and we dian from that there's no in this wool except for the fact that it's deemed raious meaning until you actually separate it from the there's no distinct status of this wool and therefore you can't call it prior to giving it to the so let's keep trying though let's give that den to that we got from truma No, there's a special for that eats truma that you have to add that and only by truma are you adding but not to and also that is for eating truma but not well okayumi just like truma has sheni after it after the trumila risha which is kind of amazing that you really think that there should be multiple of micus onious because of this from Truma is the first which is just that first there's no followup. All right. Well, just like there's a limitation on Truma. You can't take from an old crop. You can't take me from you can't start mixing and matching old groups of animals for to which says you're right in that's takoy and I'll show you from this following if you have two sheep. So, you store the wool and you want to collectively add it up and it's over two or three years doesn't work. It sounds like if you'd had five sheep that you would have over two or three years, it would be mitarfice. Another Bryce says you can't be mitarf these different wolves to combine to make a rac. So you have a steer and bryce that's actually these bryes if you hold that you can be mitar from one year to another. So that's it. You cannot combine races I guess from one year to the next just like by Truma. Well, but by Truma that if you grow it in a mat of let's say it was owned by a guy before it was harvested. So that if you would buy the sheep from the prior to shearing them how you know because of the say if he buys a field in a therefore whatever grows that extra for trumis and micus that extra which grows you want to say going to learn from from Truma that that's grown under a mat of is going to be from but it's not true because now we learned in our Mishna how which is if he bought the flock from the guy in order to shear the wool you'll be moving over to turning over our mission is not going like learns all these damasc from the sha of truma but inami our missions going like that don't learn it from truma. Okay, another if you're going to tell me according to that we're learning from truma. So that same limitation should exist by how do you know by truma you can't be if you have two different kinds of figs ebony and ivory like an Oreo cookie. If you got two different kinds of wheat depending on the gear. So based on what the tan says I guess you shouldn't be able to give to the from different kinds of wool to which says you're right in because and that's what these different color wools and they don't put them together. If you're going to learn the mission that way meaning you're gonna say that the reason why there's going to be that he can't be maf on those that he retained for the he sold but if they're the same color of wool they should be considered one men you're making the wrong that Mishna is just giving us a good the is giving us that rather than giving the I guess from the higher quality the m should hold back some of those and give the cayenne from the base which is soft and from the which is a harder kind of a wool. So also in the rat the lace of lum rather than giving the rat from all higher quality white wool the should back a little bit of the and give from both of them. So don't give all of little b peeps fleece that were white as snow but use theata to mix it up a little bit. But anyway, the bottom line from all this is since the mission is saying it's mut to be mafish from one on another even if it's not like trumo which is really you can't be tying from one minute on another. So if we're learning from the be the same to which now says we already answered that our mission is not going like so. So you can't ask me from our because in our mission is going like and now finally one last just like by truma you need to have it be nicker. You can't just make your whole field into truma. It has to be nicer that this part's truma and this part's going to be so you shouldn't be able to give it all away. to which Raa says in you're right that's what that's t what holds because of the mission in the first of that garum if all of my grain should be because you have to have some of it be nicker now if I wanted to make all of my fleces going to be the racial there's another says you cannot do that you can't make all of your wool I guess so there's no real Because Roboy himself takolds it's takuma that you have to have something mean nicker and you can't just make it all into z and here's the big closer today we like the three different that's our only learning so you have to worry about going to the mikvah to learn. There is no Isra of by Israel meaning you have to plant all these seeds at the same time in order to be of the klay. And here's where we're going to call it. We'll pick it up at the two dots.