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Chullin Daf 135

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All right, Daf Kuf Lammed. Hey, this is the first day of Russia Shazaf and let's get started with this exciting paric that mitzvah of giving those shearings to the cayenne before and after the you do not give from animals and we'll see in the Gmorra this is not just this is even by animals that only have kaducious d There's a of those matas from the last par the mata of raz in this parazer you have to give matis by both no matter how many animals even one animal you got to give matis however only with sheepa and you need to have a whole bunch of sheep and define that how many is a lot it's two sheep And the minimum of the lush of is going to be two five sheep or the olive is talking about that they prepared. They prepared five. All right. So we have whether or not it's two sheep like B or five sheep like Bil but's five sheep. How much wool must be shorn from the five sheep to be of the mitzvah. each one has a mana and a half of wool. No, once you have the five sheep any amount will be in the and as Rashi says don't worry the is going to talk about how much that actually means all right but once you have the guess how much you actually give to the kay which sounds like there's a set amount that you have to give to the kay and it's not really true in rashi that that's also going to be have to be clarified because in Yehuda and golo there was different ways of counting the weights so it's either five or 10 of the slim respectively depending on where you were and the wool has to be white and dirty cotton. The whole thing is in order for the cayenne who receives it to be able to make a begged cotton from that wool. That's how much wool you have to give. And the fact that you're giving enough wool to make a begged cotton works well with the raam because the ram does write in that the mazak to the cayen and yan meaning for the trumis and micers and he gets buser from the kchim. So the rz is taking care of his clothing. So it does make sense to see it should be enough to make that big cotton. Let's say the bim didn't give it to the before he dyed it. So he's mash it. So these from he can keep that for himself. The way Rashi and B says that he was Mishana that he had separated for the kayen. Whereas Tyus and Sambakama argues with Rashi and says that he died all of the wool. So you have a mic is Rashi and Tyus about what the case is. But there's also an important line from that tyakama that the whole idea of separating the s and then dying the racial isn't even negis because because this is this I'm reading there's no such mus of separating see when you're separating your trumis and micus there's a cre of shame there's a hafa is doing something but you have to give some of that wool it's not about the separation so there's no validity and significance to any hafa when it comes to the wool of the ra zagz but this mission is saying that if the guy is Mishana because he died it he'll be putter and he could just keep it for himself. He's not getting any words for titkus over here but there's no to replace it. Now this does seem to be exactly what Rafa had already said that if you're mazic you're shal or it's actually an important kasha why didn't the garra bring this bearish amishna as a mocker for however let's say he just whitened it so that's not really a true shinoi because he didn't color it a different color than still to give it to the kay continues the if you buy the wool from a that means you bought the wool even if it's still attached to the animal and Y did the shearing. It doesn't matter because the person who owns the sheep, not the one who owns the wool then it's going to depend if he left over enough wool with the even for the ones that he sold. But let's say he didn't leave anything over with the has to give the had two different kinds of sheep two different kinds of colors. or so then inami it's considered like two different groups and we'll see more about that in the as well in my time why is the mitzv by animals that are because you told me it's only you can't share you don't to shear animals to which the answers uh you're right you can't take an animal that you put on and shear it our saying that even and why are they going to be putter because of the fact you're not allowed to even know that of doing is they are technically if you went ahead and you should give it to the and if we have the to that situation I still don't need a mitzvah I'm not going to give it to the it's already now redeem that of the giza and now give it to the only way you can ever be is all you And you can't do that with a piece of wool. You can't stand it up on its own and assess its value. You don't need to do it. Then it wouldn't be an issue. But Omar since you can't do the padilla, the ter would never need to giving that kind of wool to the and for the Omari. Our Mishna is talking about a very specific unique case. The guy was Mishit, but he wasn't ever Mish the Giza. I can now shear it because it was never heish to begin with. And even though you technically do own that wool and it was never Hegdish, but it came from sheep that were hegdish and therefore it'll be from well, this has nothing to do with the same exact situation can be by Kimbach as well. And for the no, you can't because you can't shear the miss even when you're mash the wool because you're going to weaken the animal. >> [clears throat] >> You're also going to weaken the animal even if no you actually were never the value of its weakening says there'll be the kadusha will spread across the whole animal by the where's the precedent to say such an idea because of the when it comes comes to animals. This leg of an animal is considered who argues but still like a leg. Let's say is the animal's heart then even we mask him that we would say the holy animal becomes because everybody's masked him to the concept of hispas. So certainly in our case as well if you're makdish the entire animal but the giza and the kisha even would hold that there would be a hpastas. So that's what the case of our mission is talking about about behemoths for benedicabas when you were makers the animal except for their giza and their kisha that's why you need a pussk to potter those gizases from giving to the k but you wouldn't even need it by kimak now rava are a different ter because come on you think the whole is coming for such a mudna case of when he was saying we're talking about a case of makish giza of course the guy is actually makish the wool itself and not the animal shear it because remember the animal over here is not hegdish Rob's case and go ahead and redeem that wool and give it to a and to that since I need the extra step of in the middle that will be the so what are you doing with a different if you have two Jews that own the animal they will both be but is so my time why should be by the But who learned? Okay, but now we got to look at each one of them. How does know that? Because the whole says so we put together the truma and the so the beginning of the says and the fact that the repeats the wordious is making a between the truma and which is very different. They have very clearly different that second v of is of the two and connects them to the Truma. Turning over to Bonious. If the Torah really wanted to connect the I guess to Truma, it could have just left off both of these things and the he'll say they're very fundamentally different. The Truman and that's why we needed to divide them. Since we needed to divide them because of their fundamental differences, we needed the to be of them after the fact. Maybe the raon will be of the when he has a with a when it comes to truma has the says by that own and feel together it's that according to like every colonel is halfy halfid and there's a problem with each one of these things you could just say that the yid's grain is going to be the guy's grain is going to be but The whole issue is how do I look at this? Can I be malik with bra after the fact everybody's masking that the fact that the is owner with me in this field doesn't potter my I still am in my side and therefore both reb are not dinging the gun to potter your when there's a with a same I'll tell you another with both aid is going to be because it's totally the Yids and therefore in the same vein it's also not singularly the Yids and therefore he's also going to be put there as long as any kind of I don't care but since the two are both there will still be a on the wool but by the guy there'll be much more of a ptor now this have had to look at or any of the other kind of your thing which we're making into one would think that that same will in other kinds of around. So now we're going to take our little tour around and see how applicable is between the in other contexts that even when there's a we should say but of which says that if you have you're still in so why do we have a and there's Even with that say we would have made such but which also has the word ra which we say so I wouldn't have necessarily thought to make the sha to potter I should make the shva to truma to which says you're right. We would have made the to learn from Truma. So why do I need to have the to tell you about the shear of how much dough you need to be in the mitzvah of where the mitzvah also says your field which is still which is rabbit. Why do I need to have the animal has to be given to a to be brought as the carbon as we're going to learn about next week already which is and therefore according to you should say still which is why do I need to have We should also say the same idea which is also what's the we learned from the word moving over the way you go into your house which we to put the on the right side because that's when you go in with your right foot first and we will call it here and pick it up with messer with a secondash daff which I hope to still record and post before yam.