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Chullin Daf 133

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All right. Thursday's daff and we are going to pick it up at the end of the fourth wideline. If you haven't taken off the matus, you are not allowed to eat from such an animal. Also, if you eat from an animal that you weren't, it's as if you ate. But the garans often says and you are allowed to actually eat from an animal even before you're mafish. It's matanis because matanas are different than truma and theam say it's because matanis are distinct. It's not like Truma where the is what defines it as Truma and are whether or not you're maf or not. And the Rambam even speaks it out that the matuna are separated and therefore they're not eatuna unless they're roasted and don't eat it without mustard time because which we understand to mean. So you have to eat the matus kahuna in a bodic way the way a melik would eat it which is understood to mean sle roasted as well as with mustard. There's actually a really interesting TIS in Yuma where the gumar says that there was no yeshiva bazar you couldn't sit down in the azor unless you're from David and Tyus says but if you're doing the avoid like when you're eating the kim because of moshkra you can sit while you eat in the azor because besides the hill are not eating while you're standing but a melik wouldn't stand and eat. So a mel would sit and therefore lamashka would say that you should also eat the kudchum in the azor while seated. question is is that also going to be the same way for matnun because it's not 100% clear that which we say by will also apply to just the matnus kahuna there are 24 matnus kahuna they're all going to get listed towards the end of the dam and here's a rule if the cayen is not a bucky in what he's supposed to get and rashi understands that he doesn't know how he should eat it big like the he shouldn't get it he doesn't deserve it but for the gamar we're going to see from a bryson not that way because vav milk mily Did Tanya the Bryce says who meaning he thinks never was to do in the first place he doesn't get any he gets that nowad from this draw I know that the has to be masked to the in the but how do I know that the other 15 aid are also he has to be masked him to and now let's list the pouring ice and the mixing for the carbon ice which is the kit of breaking the ice because I'll call me the waving ice that the k has to bring the kay with the min towards the misb when the k does kamita with his handkar the burning of the immoral ice when they kill the ice moving over to ice being the dam ice springing the dam on the parisk site having the site to drink from the memor cutting off the head of the roof of the terrace which is interesting that we're calling. So how do you know that the mask to all of these as well therefore the says doesn't get any of the matanas. Now one of the things that jump out that are not on this list is but the reason is since we're not going to list it as one of the time the only reason why the doesn't get a of these is because he's not masked to the but if he is mas he does have a even though he's not a bucky in the of eating them which is connect says that you have to be a bucky in the of eating a big to get the mat. Now, another those veins that are connected to the to the jaw, you're not allowed to eat them because of the dam that's in them. And any who doesn't know how to take out that dam properly in you better not give it to him for the mat because otherwise you're going to have a problem with he's going to have d because we're not so concerned that the kay's going to eat detav if it's roasted the blood's going to go out when you roast it. And if you're going to cook it in a pot, then when he cut the meat and salted it, made a di, the blood's going to flow out of it also. So there's nothing to really worry about used to with the following kasha. Let's say a cayenne would the matonus for himself when they're being given to another cayenne because as Rashi had said earlier, it's the kids that are delivering matonus from the bum to a cayen. So like taking candy from a baby, the cayenne goes and hops it from the kids. So how do we look at this? Is he showing his for the mitzvah by taking it? Maybe it's a Brazilian for the mitzvah and I for the following that you should do to the shouldn't take it. You have to do originally I would myself because I mean I thought to myself but once I heard about the price of you shouldn't take it yourself but you got to be given so I would stop being I would stop grabbing it but instead I would tell the bum give it to me he would ask for it that way there would be a nina but once I heard that the other says aare that the in the ethic of says that they were that they turned to financial gain. So that the sons asked for their own which is a negative thing about them. So, so I saw from that that I also shouldn't be asking for my matas, but if they gave it to me, oh yeah, I'm going to take it and then once I heard another says that the kahan would even take their hands back is that after the death of that would even refrain from taking because they weren't going to be able to be mimitzvah anyway. So they didn't take that's where you have that famous about once he knew this I wouldn't even take it except for because then I would actually take the because I wanted to of being from the kahanim so I wanted people to see that I took muskuna now if he's just trying to prove that he's a kayen fract the liken only the khan and for the gammorra ancele Idne he had sedarim that prevented him from dening with the is how Rashi learns but there are other theft and the rash say that he was sick and he couldn't because of that the says he couldn't stand for the entire time of dening of hide kahana let's say have a who knows in his own town he's got a who is poor soil mat the kay can give his own matanis to that the alpha god and even though they didn't actually become the cayenne's M yet kahuna this kula that allows the cayenne to be mazak his matanis to the is only by mak kahuna where the cayenne is recognized and wellknown and liked by people. So therefore there's already going to be some kind of a mishb that he gets to these things. So since they kind of belong to him already he can now be mak to a third party and give it to the marn. So were going to the house of so it was prepared for them this very of a meal. He told the servant zakat give the matonus from thisel to us because I want to eat the I want to eat the tongue with mustard. Raa wanted these matas because because the tongue is part of the and he wanted to eat it with mustard. So zakle. So this servant who was being told this instruction gave it to but now was read the following in like a worn out clothing on a cold day like vinegar on this noser on this metal. So is the one who is sharim that sings the songs of Tyra to a poor mind who doesn't understand what he's being taught. And by saying this, it's a way of saying that he didn't understand something of the terror. So now came to maybe it's because I was over what you said and I disagreed with you. That's why I got read this. So Dr. backed him when I learned that a cayenne can give his matonis to a Israel before actually getting them. I was talking to another kind of cayenne who doesn't feel that kind of pressure to give it to somebody else. But shar this servant who was being told to give it to a third party that was he didn't want to do that on his own and there was no heter to do that and when I had said that a can give the matonus to Israel I was talking about Israel who needs them but in this case ra did not need to have this tongue with mustard my time so then of safer why was I read the puss in my dream then I was right to which of yph says backa this was alt rava rava was the one who needed this puss he's wrong well frra of saffer Rava then Ra should be the one getting the pussing in his dream not me to which finally says Rava knows Rava was somehow pushed aside because of another story that the Tina tells us that Raa daven for rain unnecessarily and therefore he wasn't to have this with the PK in it what's the pup shot in the pusk soi says back the pus is actually talking about a talmid who is not appropriate there's some kind of corruption in this talmet maybe he doesn't want to apply his learning lisa and he's learning for some other nefarious reason. If you teach somebody who's not the goes to get him. Wow. Wow, it's like doing a visor. So, make sure your roy okay getting back to our Mishna. If ael becomes a partner with a or a he's got to mark the buser so people realize that it's not belonging only to Israel and he's just sherking his duties not to give the matanas. Are you supposed to make this on the buser even if you're connected the following because the Bryce says so you see from the Bryce you don't have to mark the buser if you're a turning over it depends if the guy is obviously sitting in the store when the buser is being sold because then everybody knows that his partner is the guy and therefore the reason why the is not getting maton is but it's not so and therefore that's why you'd have to mark it but the same parallel case by the also is talking about the same mat where the kay's in the store so why do you have to go ahead and make the marking for the kayen and what are you going to say because people are going to assume that the kay's just buying meat and he's not afraid he's a customer but then if that's the case we must be talking about the guy is sitting on that money chest where the money gets put. So it clearly indicates that he is af and not just a consumer. Same thing with the gonna say because people will just assume that the is trusting the to guard the money. But the is not his partner. He's just a trustworthy guy. That's why he's handling the money. Maybe that's what people assume by the guy. The perception is that yeden wouldn't be trusting the to be their partners. Doesn't mean that all guy are not trustworthy. But since that's the perception, you have to be rich, your buser to show that you are a partner with the cayenne. But you don't need to for the guy because there's no way he's being the shimmer on the money. He must be the partner. Or I'll tell you another idea because most are loud and more boisterous less like the cayenne would be. So just by seeing that kind of person, you would know whether or not he'd be the Israel. This was at the end of the bracelet that we wrote real fast that if you're going to be selling mashim, you don't need to make that raim on the buser. So, Alma it must be clear that when you're selling that it's somehow nicker and clear. We learned in the mission which is on the horizon folks are sold in the marketplace and they can be in the weighed just like all their animals. So, they look the same as everything else. So, of papa meaning those and that messer that's mdashim which is sold from somebody's house because they don't require padia the owner of the balm meaning that k probably he'll just sh and eat it and if he wants to sell it he has to sell it from his house so he can't sell or slaughter it in the marketplace or weigh it normally because doing that would be a to the and that's going to be the let's say the or the is only av partner in the head of the animal so the Israel's putter from giving the matonus that are in that head meaning that which is inside the head but he still has to give and will be likewise because that's the part that he's going to be if you're a little bit with the from all of the I says let's say a guy sold an animal to Israel and made that I'm keeping the head but the rest is all yours Or even if you said just 1/100th of the head is mine. The Israel will be putter. And we'll have to see what that means soon. Let's say he said the hand is mine and the rest is all going to be yours. Just 1/100th of the hand is mine. Israel is going to be. So doesn't it sound like he's only putter from that one thing that's located in that area? But it'll be all the rest of them and but as you can imagine the says no when the Bryce says he's putter he's putter in just like said then let the Bryce say from everything and we have another Bryce says if a sells an animal to Israel and makes it that the head is mine and the rest is going to be yours. Bryce. Do you know why made the way he did? Because the Bryce made a mistake. Because the Bryce says there are 24 and that just like mel never spoils. So too the kahuna will never stop. and call and anybody who is actually the kahuna land. However, if you're over them in the following are the 24 muskuna 10 are given to the inhab and 10 are given outside and beyond. And now here's the list. tender in the basic English areas and the four that are eaten are and that which is taken from the carbon and the nozzer one from each of the four sets of kalus given to the kahanim and vice kim and eservulum and the 10 matas that are given in the gulim are truma trumaser kala voracious aayatan So whoever since the counted as one unit they are one and you can't divide that meaning it's all or nothing. So therefore in our case where the owns the animals head and the isel owns the rest of the animal. Since the Israel is putter from giving the in the head, there should also immediately be a tour of the ka and the but because you're going to say that that amount that was separated from the carbon was separated from the that's going to be one because he listed it as one thing. No, of course not. They're two different things. They're two different matas in the list and therefore they were counted as one. And this folks is where we will call it. We'll pick it up with the boilhoo next