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Chullin Daf 103

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All right, today's daf gimmel. It's Tuesday's daf. We get to finish the perrick today. But first, we're going to pick it up on B about a dozen lines from the bottom of the Omar as we get into the murus foresher. And now, how do we know we're talking about an a because as Rashi explains, just like an a does not grow back. So it's compared to the nephesh but the boser can regenerate that a tra that is going to die is even if it has a proper now so that'll bear it's the same that'll only be talking about and not the be two sets of malus because two ais and because it's two separate ais. Not like a repeat offender who guy who eats multiple of where you're only going to get one set of two different aes. all one is in the both the and the both come from if you ate the and the two because the is coming from and the traa is coming from interestingly enough holds that the and the are going to be from the same because learns both. So then in that case because there's certainly going to be two different because both of the but the is going to come moving over. He took off that a from the trafer before the trafa finally did its dying. one from and one and we'll see soon why according to you're only have one set of malus now you're going to get two sets of malus because and from two different sukum elder what's according to he says you're only going to get one set of mal but before we said that he's mim that traus and come from two different from sukim so why are you only once like a where there's That's talking about where there's one animal where the aver was taken off from a living tray. But that was talking about two separate animals meaning where he ate an a from a healthy animal and some regular buser from a dead tra. So in the case of two animals and both are mim you're going to get two sets of malus even though there's two one from and one from but you're going to get two sets of malus because it was two different but if it's one animal then there's going to be hold you're going to get two sets of malcus but is going to say you're only going to get one thing but by one animal what is the nudis lisa bottom line it's two different mus so why would say you're only going to get one set of malcusaya the first of the several terutsum here ga nitrifa We're talking specifically about where the animal became a tra on the way out. Meaning the birth is actually what gave it its traus. So this according to while the animal is alive it looks like it's a series of different which means that the is going to be user already from the point where it's born and that's when the isra is going to be at lea the isert is and therefore the is of traus and happen at the exact same moment at the moment of birth and therefore both affairs will be according to while the animal is alive it's not looked at as a series of a verm and therefore or the is only when it gets removed from the animal and therefore once it gets removed from the animal that won't be on the tra because so that's why says you're only going to be one set of malcus for being over the pre-existing tra another you could say everybody both and are asking that while the animals alive we don't look at as a series of different avarim and therefore it's not going to be user until it gets removed may they're ga arguing whether or not at the time of that removal of the will the but that would be because we said that extra of the fact that regular is a third both mask that it is already divisible by and therefore it's already from birth and when the animal becomes a afterwards and it's the other way around whether it will be because according to this answer holds that is going to be according to it can't because and a fourth We're talking goof about where you took off an a and that made it into a trades or maybe the gear might be according to while the animal's alive it's not considered like separate and therefore they come into existence at the same time when that a gets removed from the animal which means it would be from birth is her and therefore the isertas cannot be until later when it becomes a and therefore won't be because so there's your formal to understand their let's say which is bad enough but that came off of an which was a so how many a did he do three a and you're only going to get two sets of malus now you got to figure out Chavis is he getting malcus it should be three sets of malus as we said because I say do get three sets of malcus it also says you do all these three so we have two different versions of when it became a during its birth process according to the one who says three sets of meaning that's All three of us come at the same time at its but according to the one who says you're only going to get two sets of which is and therefore they're not going to become until they are separated from the body. You're not going to have the or I'll tell you and therefore both happen at the time of the and only happens later. And what are they arguing about? may say is they're arguing about whether or not the of can come back and be on the pre-existing of the pre-existing of tra because according to holds that the iss of does come and is in such a mativ because as Rash explains he holds in this version is and according to version he'll hold that the is not going to come Because a third we look at it as separate which means that the from birth is only became afterwards again they're arguing whether or not on the pre-existing according to version holds it will hold the just like we and so since you see the on the pre-existing also we could say it'll be on the pre-existing but according to version of only is the is because in certain cases can become muting over it's only of not so there is a hut But that's never that trafus will not be because you're always going to have the and therefore you're always gonna have the problem of let's say you split that kazas of the amen before he ate it and ate each half of the zas separately. So ma what's the now normally if you eat two bites of something that together make a kaz of course you're going to be ivor but he's asking the shil here anyway so says he's talking going to be putter because you're only going to be for if you're eating if you eat it all at the same time because is not about regular that has a normal because your for even when you're eating these which are not really edible in the first place and that's why you're going to be put unless you ate it all at the same time. Next shila let's say if the division of that happened inside of his mouth before he swallowed it in such a case then he will be that's considered like eating it all at the same time let's say he split that zas outside of his mouth and then ate each half separately but because he did eat that whole zas in his gor at one time but because you don't eating the stomach at one time and that's going to be lacking and that's going to be missing and therefore you're not going to be so how do you ever have it that you can consume an entire at one time because as Rashi explains people chew before they swallow and therefore it's never going down into your stomach all at the same time of kahana biga zera we're talking about where he ate the small kind of a bone which is eaten and swallowed whole verb even if you split that kazay outside of his mouth and and subsequently ate each half separately will also be because just lacking the crav the the location and proximity is not the same as in a mis of they're just physically separated but they really are being eaten together this excluding that which is stuck between the teeth that's not swallowed mean you have to completely swallow the kaz you can't include that which got stuck in your That's considered what was being eaten because eating is also tasting and therefore that which is still in your teeth is to the zas that you're eating papa that which is in your teeth. Everybody's mask is not part of the but that's the food stuck in the pallet that didn't go down the throat. And therefore, since there is a considered and it didn't go down into the stomach yet, so it's not considered a let's say at threw it up and then he ate another time because he consumed his meaning his throat was nana from a total just even though it didn't stay down and then He ate it again. Yeah, gross taka. But yeah, he ate it again. Mau. So, what's the shila equal? Elohave equal. Was it digested or not? Kazas. And if that's what he's talking about, he should have asked about the whole Zas. I mean, if you eat an entire Zas, we look at as if it was digested or not. It's got nothing to do with half and so maybe was asking whether or not when we say eating, are we going buster the oras? But that also we could be pushed at that from that if you throw it up and then ate another half you're going to be which you see from there that is defined by and not by may okay so that can't be the point of his question and therefore he had a different reason for asking the question had forgotten his learning so and the whole intention of was to remind him of the and this is what meant to say why do I need to tell me that a person's when he ate a separate. Let's say even if he ate that same that he was throwing up because then you could learn both things from that same memor. It's not considered like it's digested. And what happened after said this toias was quiet and didn't say anything to said back to him which is an expression you had could do. Didn't it happen many times that you yourself said in front of that if you eat a and you throw it up and you eat it again you're going to be masked to you and said because he had the and therefore he should be and therefore he's reminding him that was mask to you and with that and we get to start the next par which is going to be everything you ever want to know about and we'll pick it up with a new peric for Tuesday.