Bechoros Daf 5

All right, Daff. Hey, this is Wednesday's Daf and we're picking it up on Dalad B's three lines from the bottom mask of papa. As you remember, we were talking about regarding the status of kadushkar in the midbar. So, fractor of papa midbar like kaju. Can anybody hold that there was no kaducious bakar in the midbar? And what's happening in that is told to count all of the rice that any bar that's more than a month old, he has to as part of the count. So anybody who's just a month old obviously was born in the midbar and we see clearly that there was a denied okay you know what let's redefine what the makus was and Omaru that they received initial kadusha and it never went away they kept it throughout those 40 years in the midbar but formaru they taka when that minion that mishainu was counting them moving over to but then it went away until klrael went into Israel so according to the way we're learning is those that were in mitim They got the kaduca and they carried that kaduca into the midbar. Those that were born in the midbar at the time of that counting of kali Israel they got a kaduca bkar at that point. Those that were less than a month old at the time of that minion never had a kaduca because the only was the kadusha and those that were born after they went into but according to from the time they have that of kadesh in mitim everyone got the kaduca and it stayed that way. Now, he gave his own reason that according to that since the Tory speaks out that when I take you to Israel, you're going to have this kaduca, it makes sense that there won't be a new kaduca on these kids until they come into Israel and according to why does the tyra need to tell us that the kaduca never went away because only arguing that the kaduca was interrupted when they counted the but why should he ever think that it ever stop? So Omar is a wild line here. I saw himself in a dream last night and therefore I know that what I'm going to say is exactly the right em cuz I saw himself and what was that thing that he saw in his dream the we said beforehand that there's a special that they are as they should be and their kaduca should never go away. That's what holds. So when you go into and you're going to do this, you're going to set apart every which is mocker that the must have ceased which is mocker that the must have stopped from the time of that counting until the time they went into what he do with it. It's the of the that's the reason that you're going to go into you learn it that way. We learn another way in the midbar. Are you also swapping around the cases that we had earlier? You're also going to switch there was saying that he saw now so of back of according to that were notesh that means that the animals those bakar animals did not need to become kadesh by those who wanted to bring them on the bay because they automatically were kadesh from the time they were born and therefore the didn't have the kadusha in the midra all that means that they didn't need to do anything because they were already kadesh alkar so they didn't need a new hdish before they were brought on the misb as opp as opposed other regular animals of huland that can't be brought on unless first they became hegish and make them into a particular carbon. So done if that's the way you're learning it really is the same thing as what we're saying. So what's Morai even accomplishing by switching out the answers? It's important to say who you heard. Okay, story time which is going to get us into some math. Yayus that the Roman general or whatever you touch the isak he asked the following question. Now historically this is by the end of Bayeni where the gumar tells us this terrible difficult time where you had Romans starting up with the yidden and so here's one of the cautious that was asking us in that counting of the levim in the midbra you find a total of 22,300 that's how many levim were counted in the rashi brings that's the subtotal of gin kas marari equaling 22,300 but vishnf but beyond the you'd make if You just look at what the puzz says when it says how many were in the shy. It says it was 22,000 even. So where those extra 300 go? Now there's a subtext to this question that because of this overage because Hashem told me to take a ley to swap out as the pigion for every one of these rice. But since there were an extra 273 bkai rice, the five shekel that was used as the pigon money that was given to the kahan is extra. So this is why the krunkus is trying to have a dig at meenu by saying he's pocketing money. Zaki said back there's a very simple terret the 300 extras they themselves were the ley can't so we're not counting those 300 now my time why can'ty take away the Israel because so he can only take care of his own kadusha and therefore can't take care of the kad of the Israel next conversation between zakai andus the gboy in the collection of the silver for the Mishkan that was collected. If you make a you find 201 and 11 a lot of money but when they actually gave the silver to use for the mishkun you find that you make 100 were used. So we got extra money that's not being over here. So maybe he was a thief or he was what'sus he's a kidnapper according to the popularhat which difficult cuz what sh does kidnapping have over here means aus is a gambler that needs to cover his debts but anyway he's saying something disparaging about or maybe he wasn't too good at math because you got to be pretty bad at math if you're pocketing half the money and it wasn't even a complete half that he gave back to the mishka it was less than half that he gave to the mishka so What is going on with all the money? So back to this Roman. He was a very honest treasurer and he was also very smart and knew his math. But you're the one making the mistake, sir. Because every one of the hashkullum that were counted by the Mishkun was double the size of a regular mana. So therefore, 100 mishkun kar used for the adunim were actually equivalent to 200 regular normal kick or kicks. Heavy bakai ra. What was Zakai's kash that made him say that of the mon was double the size. Why does he just simply tell the Roman that was used to pour the but the other 100 stayed in the treasury of the Mishkan it didn't get spent right now you know why because there's another that says may ask that the of how much they collected of silver was 100 kar 100,1775 shackle and here the pik doesn't say anything about how the kickers were used to pour the adonim so the pusk must be telling about the total that was collected and still 100 ker seems be missing. Well, that that said that it was double the size of a regular mino. Where does he know this from? What told to say that a kicker of the Mishkan has no less than 120 regular money. So the Gar says Elma if you want to say that this is the mocker. He saw it from the itself that it's to be that way because here we find that the silver that was left over from that 100ker was 71. And the PK says that 1,775 he made the hooks for these different pillars right and therefore the Torah was only counting them by units of which is the smaller number. Now vis if you tell me the mana was used that it was the regular kind of mana then 60 mana which is 1,500 scholum should make a kiker and may have a man the ty should have said that the total amount of silver was not 100 kikar and 1,775 skullum but it should have been 101 kar and 11 man in other words you use the higher measuring tool if you can element right but since the ter counted the silver only by smaller units of that tells us that the mana of the mishkun was double the size of a regular mana and therefore the Mishkanikar was 120 regular kind of mana which is 3,000 scholumari maybe the Tur only saying the bigger numbers the hundreds of kikers but we're not talking about the individual integers or whatever you call you know the smaller numbers as it's only the hundreds not the tens and the ones I'll tell you this is going to be the mockerfame shel that there were 70 kar and 2,400 scholarish here you see that there were 96 six mana because 24,000 scholum divided by 25 scholum pera equals 96 mana and rashi goes through the for those of us who are math inclined pride the tire still went out of its way to count it in terms of skullim soya must be that the mana is double the size of a regularized mana well frankly of maybe the ter is only saying the larger meaning the tens of karim buttoari it's not saying the ones of the kikar so the garamar is going to finally Say now the s from gra s from scholum kamisha the s from the shekel is 20 gra which is 20kum 25 if you add up all those numbers that's 60 that's going to be a mana that's what the tyra says turning over to it bays but a mana is 240 diner which is 60 scholum now is it true that a mana is 240 diner which is 60 scholum we know for a fact that a man is only 100 diner which is 25 scholumm We also learn from here that you're allowed to add to the size of these mid, but you can't add more than a more than a six because from this they're adding to it. They're not adding more than a six. And how do you add a sixar? It's only after you add it. That's how you look at the total number. And thank God we are finished with the math. And I'm perfectly happy to move on to the next now. I asked a child in the big medanus. This is a question that I'm sure we all had when we started learning this. What is so special about donkeys? Why is the bkar of a kamar different from the bkar of a horse or a camel? You got lots of non-coosher animals out there. What's so special about a donkey? Omar Lee says back to me. It's a sec. That doesn't mean we're not allowed to ask. That's the real answer. It's vid. And on top of that, I'll give you a reason. The donkeys were very helpful when they got out of there wasn't one from they didn't have 90 of these the Libyan donkeys which were toimas that were loaded with the silver and gold from Mitzim. So that's a lot of gold and silver that's coming on the backs of these donkeys. And this might be a Guzma because how many millions of donkeys were coming out of them in but either way the donkeys were very useful and says I asked another kasher when the yidden went to they were attacked by a mo. So what are we supposed to take out from the word rafidim? He said, "Well, that's the name of the place, but when we talk about that settled in and the people did the and what do you say that was the name of the place but it's also is a reference to this says that this expression of that arumhen that the benise may have came arumise to the men without any clothes that tells us that they had with all of them and they all became a bulky let's say a cow gives birth to a donkey this is a mutant birth of a donkeyus or a donkey gave birth to a horse so these will be very confused animals how to identify but aside from the therapy they're put from the why we not both mommy and baby need to be aar of the cautious of eating these animals. Now, it's interesting that the Mish says, "Is there any shila that the that's born from a horse might be kosher to eat?" Likely not. We probably have to change the gears or it's just talking specifically about the cow that gives birth to a donkey. Why? This is the any product that comes from a non-osher animal is going to be not kosher and likewise the opposite. It'll be kosher coming from a kosher animal. Z the Gimara Tanhome. We learned in the mission in the second paricel the shel. So you got these kosher animals that are born seemingly incorrectly from each other. woman. It's nidm like another animal, but it will be mine. So, how do you know this is true? By the kosher animals that look like a different kind of animal that'll have this of this sheep a goat. I might have thought that it's not going to have a dinar even if it has a mas of its mother that we're limiting this pur from akar that only if it doesn't look at all like its parent if it looks a little bit like its parent it'll be frank the town of Mishna is using the expression of Petr tell me that the of a par that looks like a is not going to have any so know to have a different muk that akar has to resemble its own mother and for the t because The Bryce and likewise and so he had that mocker. So what's the is between our T of Mishna and clearly quoted from that because our T of Mishna holds which is a reference to the of that has no it's just money that it's going to be put and the same thing will be the by the potentially can be brought on the but so they have different starting points whether it's because he's not using it. He's using P and for the a different that's of us to take the amim of a of a and a why do we have to have for all three of these things? All you need is from one of them because when it comes to cows there's a lot of for those kinds of carbonas and I would have thought the amor is only tov because it has the special of the tail and the I might have thought the amor is only negate to the goat for the a because because it has its own that's and that's with the a so that's why the ty tells three separate times that you need to bring the amim of these three different kind I understand you can't learn the of the from onear to another kind of because of the we just made let's learn one from the other two says you can't because which one would you not want to be written by if you're not going to write it by the sheep and the goat have the extra of the fact that they are to a carbon which is what you can bring from as opposed to a cow if you're not going to write it by the sheep and you're going to put it from the par and the a's I would because they are brought for the carbonus of people do those carbon are brought with those kind of animals don't write it by a goat and only write it by the and the because you need all the and the fact you have the aliyah you have these extra things that you're bringing on the carbon that's why maybe you have the soil that's why I need to have all these different makus and therefore that's what I'm going to do with the bakar drussia that seems to be extra and now we're going to turn and ask what's going on with what's he going to do with petar and petar But for that, we're going to save that for tomorrow's dev. 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