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Bechoros Daf 33

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All right, gimmel. This is Wednesday's daf and we'll pick it up with a as we continue to discuss. What do you do with this thing? So, as far as eating a balm is cannot eat alongside the cayenne to eat a balm. Kind of a funny lion. You could just simply say that ael is to aum. I believe it's that picks up on this but holds that there is some level of kaduca for a that the isel cannot partake in it even a guy could eat money who's the t of our mission that holds that bita is that a guy can eat from a says that's that the only ones who can eat aum are a group of and that would be bisham Basil extends it to and lastly is extremely can be eaten even by the so now let's go through the shittas my time why would be b limit only to the given to the so that would be that you have to treat the like regular coach him to eat it to eat it only by the moving over to who's more and allows the Israel to eat it. That's the only time we're mak that is talking about which is because they can never become. So you see that is looked at like so certainly a non can have the according to there's a special by the so you see that there is a of over a regular because a regular Israel can never do the but what say they'll We're not really talking about the anyway that we should compare their levels of the we're talking about the actual zar when it comes to the he has more kis than a t because a can occasionally eat whereas the can never eat it. So even we can't make that argument that there's so that's all but the last part of the Bris said so my time why is he super to even allow the to eat from the because the compares so it's pretty straightforward it's like let the guy eat it also and what would the Tanakama say well there are three times in par where the toy compares it two which rash says I don't know where this one is Tyson says this is about of crossbreeding animals which is that are compared to that that you need a foray and the third teaches us that once you're if it gives birth to it's not the says Akarum cannot be given to aid to eat and that's different which is well in line with saying there's still a kadush here. So my shoulder again is compared to he'll say no that he is what would he say back to that allows the to eat the is only talking about the kind of toma that doesn't come from the gof but it's coming externally like a tom mace like by the you see the love as we learned in the Mishna in that carbon because of so you bring the carbon but still because that comes from the and therefore there's a cool or at least a difference about the tomas m you're still not allowed to eat from the carbon pes because of the toma that's buff what would he say back well the carbon is a special den you can bring it in a mat of but yet still the mufi is going to mean because the says this of it doesn't say and therefore it shouldn't make a difference how you get to that the brace says you can't skin the animal in a way from the feet all the way up because you want to create this large piece of skin that you can use for a kay. So you're now let do this process of being margillan on you shouldn't ever do this margill this kind of skinning process even during the weekday on a even after still don't do this kind of a process of this margar you don't need to use the skin on yumpt itself so to do such a difficult process is not going to be yumptar mana who's the says you can't be margillar Even on a weekday about the kadusha of this is going to say even during the week and then the bright said so man who's seems to hold that there is going to be a kaduca even after it gets as we see let's say somebody is trying to be super responsible for two carbon and the reason he did it because something might happen to one of the carbonas and lo and behold that's exly What happened? One of these two animals got a bring that's a and the one that got so take the money and buy another carbon with it. Now let's say the is before the dam is well then but if after the was already done well then it'll be a surah because of the has to die similar it's part of that same but that's all the tano here's our punch line remember I don't care even if this buser is already being cooked in a potra Because according to even after the it still has some kadusha which makes it to becoming user. So same thing with our case even after the Padilla the mugoshim that have mum that have now been are going to still retain their kaduca and therefore you can't be margillan when you want to skin them who signed this like mak why you starting to switch names here also gave this animal that had the level of kadusha to which the says I'll make and therefore I can see why it'll have this extra turning over well then why Did we ever say it was let's say the whole Brisb because the so strong that you can actually p it onto the guilt maybe they won't retain their after the from being after their he might be the that's why the price says the will also be on the it must be I verbal bless doesn't bless hold what it says in our mishna that mdashim can't be sold in the marketplace since will make the most money if it's sold in this process you're allowed to be n with it in this way so wisering the margill that will also help out the hegdish because now you can sell for a higher price since it has that value of mar of kahana yeah it's true you will gain more in value because of this kind of skinning process and therefore potentially Hegish can make more money that way but they're going to lose because that process of doing this kind of skinning rips off some of the buser in the same process and therefore it decreases the value in that way. You know why you shouldn't be margillan these because it looks like you're doing a like a lot of hard work which Rashi says is going to be a biz and therefore that's why it's also to be marg and lastly the reason why you shouldn't be margill is you don't want to keep these animals around and if we say that margillan's mut the bum might push off sheing the animal until he finds someone who's willing to buy the entire skin of the animal and therefore he might come into so we want to avoid all that we know it is user to And that will certainly be the bakar as well. But what happens if the bkar is already in a bad mat? So the mission of this needs to have a blood letting even if this will die if you don't do anything about it is you're not allowed to actively cause that wound and do any bloodletting on this animal. That's no you could do it. Just don't make the mum. do it in a way that it won't be a mum and if you actually did make a m on it that won't be a mum that will be and you'd have to wait for another kind of a mum to develop to have that you can do it that's because it's a dav which always holds is going to be mut and we'll have to set this is not a ratio but rather just a possibility of creating the says you could do the blood letting as long as it doesn't make a That's all because it's better to do that than let the animal die. But don't based on that. Even if the animal is going to die, leave things that they are, let nature take its course. So there does seem to be kind of a fundamental makus about when you're in these difficult situations are you supposed to abstain or at this point since practically speaking this bad result is going to happen can I get involved over here and the gar is now going to expand this mus to other areas of shas where you can have a similar kind of a let's say you have a barrel of truma thean like the Mishna like in the eighth par of trumise saysall Truma by suffk tumma. Let's say I have now suffic to now suff by trauma is a real bummer because if it's truma at least I can be malf and I can sprit it to keep the dirt down in the house. But if it's sufficum I both can't drink it and I can't do anything with it. I'm kind of stuck if it's exposed where it's very likely going to become and now you have to actually protect it. I have to get involved to protect it from becoming because there's an because I'm responsible to protect my truma and therefore if it was in a conce if it was in a where it was protected you could take the suffic and put it in a more exposed area to become tummy because of the suffic trauma was practically speaking already unusable because everything that's inside this is already useless stuff don't do anything leave it alone. So revime mayor is kbielzar meaning ra mayor in the bryce that says that you can save the bkar by being mach is dumb as long as you're not going to inflict a mum is going to be likezar that you should protect the truma rather than exposing it but veron is khu that you're allowed to cause the bkar and you're allowed to cause the truma to become vame who says you should leave the bkar alone that's going to be like let nature take its course how can you make such a parallel like mayor maybe said it's twoar you're doing it yourself by the case of the suffic you're not doing it yourself you're just exposing it so it might happen as a grammar maybe he's masking for that you're allowed to leave the exposed like that you should move the truma into a via because maybe the suffic once shows up and tells us that's the case by the needs to have the blood letting it will die maybe you mask him to in order to save its life that you're allowed to be. And therefore, maybe they're going to agree who says you should move the sufficient. So you have to break apart all of these different and the gar says it's not only the to be each have their but we are going to save those sukim for tomorrow and we'll stop here before we bring the sukim. We will see you next time.