Bechoros Daf 30

All right, Daff Lmed. This is Sunday's Daf. We're going to pick it up with the Mishna towards the bottom of it's the second to last Mishna on the bottom of Alash. If somebody's that they don't keep meaning they plant during the Shmita year or they do business during like you can't even buy Pishon flax from him even if it was combed out which you might think well there's some effort involved and maybe he won't want to risk it but that that's not that's not considered enough effort. You can buy spun flax into thread and the woven material that's made from that thread. That's a lot of effort. So he's not going to do that unless we think he's actually not using perishmita in this. Fractina and if you're telling me you're allowed to buy him when it's spun. So argue me boy. That's a later process. You're using the threads from what he spun. So for the gar my means it's some kind of braided chains that are made out of unspun flax. So the point is that since it wasn't actually spun, so therefore the mission has to tell us the additional that this will also be considered like an effort that he wouldn't have done unless it's okay stuff to use. So Truma, let's say this guy sells Truma as now Truma has a very low sales price because only Kahan can buy it. So he wants to make more money. So he'll tell people this is hulen which is terrible really. He's selling the stuff under the name Hulin when really it's user to eat because it's Truma be terrible a for the people eating it. Anyhow, if determined this guy is guilty of that kind of fraud, you can't buy anything from this guy. Not even water or salt. Even though both can't possibly be truma, it'll still all beer. However, that's alludes. Anything that has a shuser, you can't buy from him. But only the kinds of foods that could become trumiserus. Other things like mim and melac you could buy from him. lassu says anything that has this zikas. What's he referring to? What's he trying to include? He's including the fish guts which are not themselves. But you still can't buy them. Why? Because you mix in olive oil into that mixture. There was one time a butcher who was to be selling moving over to harba these parts but he would tell people that this was the kosher kinds of fats. So when he got caught au rava wouldn't even allow him to sell nuts after that. Why are you giving this extra that he can't even sell the nuts? It's no for which he was. So must be you must be holding like butami. So it's not only the nuts, it should be even. So why is he only saying he's going to answer the nuts? It's really who doesn't extend it beyond the actual thing in question. But mask those things that can facilitate that a will be and how are nuts used to facilitate the aserum because garamuz kids love nuts as we all know. Who doesn't love a good walnut when you're a kid? No, but the truth is that even you know that's the kind of present you give on Khaneka in you give about nuts. Historically kids love nuts. So the butcher would go out and lead the kids by attracting them with the nuts to do what he would want. He would say, "Hey kids," this evil butcher would say, "I'll give you kids these nuts." If they would bring him this kind of and these kids would go bring him these fats that are user that they would steal from from the other butchers and he would sell them as if that these were kosher fats. So since the nuts were used in the process of getting these kids to be involved in this ruse, Serion would hold that the kas should extend even to nuts that you can't buy because it was related to the aera. So is someone who is formita meaning it's notus we don't extend that to because people than they are by and likewise you're not going to be immediately on the other thing but if you're on both and then you are for tar but he's The rule is if you're on that particular you cannot or you can't be made or saying that idea that thing that you're about. So like the what's the if a person is onita they're not on messer and form doesn't require it's eating to be done in or in your rather which is the that we're talking about but since messer requires the meaning you have to do it in your inside the walls more so people will instinctively be more about their messer but the other is you're not so you can actually be piery But since forever you can't the next case was if you're on both you're going to be on so if you are onus and certainly which is going to be thear then the Mishna had said if you're only you're notus my time Maybe the guy's firm enough not to be over their says someone who is also but it's had he been force then also he should be for it's not really a steer from this because here we actually saw him doing so we don't have to be worried about it we saw that he's a practicing Jew when it comes tomita and going to really he was for both and then he came to the raon and he was upon himself to do it properly and then he fell off the wagon and once again became on one of them let's say now we say that's what the br is telling us since he's now about the he'll also be about the as This this is who sometimes is also reported as being who is this is talking about it's where lived people were very mock about as you can see from the following story there was this guy in Rhjuda's town who they called him a g the son of a female garele he said back tasty. Well, at least I don't eat. At least I don't eat permita like you do. So, here they are stucking each other out with these different digs. Or some say it like this. That's going to be it's according to it's all connected. If you one of everything turning over to basis that's going to be who are the is talking about that's going to be Mayor Dany as the Bryce says love and arts who says I want to be like aver that extra has which is like the opposite of the who is for things and now he became one of that's thing he's about and likewise let's say is himself even if he becomes one thing so even though he is now his gays are still going to be upheld he just as a who's a but he's not a guy but anyway is going to be the if he now marries a woman the kaducian will work even if he's now off the says let's say someone says I want to be except for one thing I don't want to be so from about this one and I say we're not going to accept him we're not going to accept him as a to have now also let's say a guy comes to me I want to be agcept for that one a mab and in case you're thinking about hillel how is he mab this guy maybe wasn't mab maybe it was just mar of him I don't know but lisa we can't accept a who's not mab that one thing even if he's not only one likewise So that so we from there you got to take it as a package deal all the let's say someone's coming to actually achieve this level of we see how he acts in the privacy of his own home that he's keeping up to his level we'll accept him and then we'll teach him all the we don't see how he acts then he has to first learn it all we can't just assume that he'll be okay we can accept him he should learn as he goes along first we'll accept him which is a way of saying we'll accept his in stages first he'll accept because Kazal created a toma of and we refer to as like wings because you got to raise up your hands which makes it look like wings right after you wash them. So once he's considered that's the stages that we're talking about if he says I'm only going to be myself just we'll accept him for that alone but if he's trying to jump over a level and only be for not forel says how long does he have to be his before we're actually going to accept him you How long does he have to practice it before we see him as for the liquids which is only going to be 30 days for clothing because the clothing of arts is also considered Tommy madress be 12 months if you tell me requires 12 months before we can trust him for both mashkin and for clothing then which is not in the list of what the Bryson means to say is B Hill both of them are 30 days not 12 months and therefore of course B hill is more simme okay says someone who's coming to be you have to accept this in front of three but his sons and his household members don't need to be this in front of three meaning they don't have to make their own official acceptance on their because they could just go bust through the whole family does. So everybody has to accept it personally upon themselves. However, let's say you have this who's a member of Sanhedrin does not need to go ahead and sit in front of three to be love from the fact that he's already been sitting in the Sanhedrin. He's already been Makab. He would have never gotten the job to begin with otherwise. Even others could be in front of him. He could serve in the group to actually give somebody else the who had this mahal of not being trusting anybody unless they were in front of three. And this is the following story. They were about they sent a pair of Rabon's son and told them go and tell him to look into this. They found him carrying Taharisan. So he sat some of his different rabbon who accepted this next to these other to basically be in between them. He was kind of protecting himself by having these rabbon in between and he was unloading his taharaas and stood up to look into the sole. So the were sent came back and told how's son treated them as if they were not trustworthy. So said to them, the father of this one was meaning himself did and therefore so the son also is no don't say that let have his own element from the time the happened were trying to keep a higher standard they didn't just want to trust everybody with until they were officially given the title And lastly, they maintain their still status of trustworthiness until they become. Similarly, if there's a store that's selling, you can assume it's proper, not the fake stuff until you have a reason to be. And we're going to stop here and pick it up with the next turn on for Monday's Duff.