Bechoros Daf 23

All right, I get Sunday's daff. We're talking about that becomes bottle if it can beer veneer when you add more to it. And the gar the top of was talking about that case of Truma and Ula introduced an idea of aerobul that you might want to bring in and add it to this mixture and put them together because he thinks he could be and the fact that we have to make such is predicated on the idea that men veneer and the gar is malic. Just on that nuda before we start today's new gam that idea that a person would be coming to be typhus the top typhus jumps on that and asks what would even gain we know so typhus as a is just know the last line of this tus this is considered if a guy doesn't know the is that called this tyus is saying yeah that's called shy and it's brought that way in the taz that is hakally called a shyig so it's an important maramokum you in our definitions of terms but we're going to now start on the ninth line this idea that you can kind of bring back the tuma by adding more to it let's ask now from the Mishna in the ninth per of a for let's say you have actual paradum ashes which we know have the property that they are mahar the person who's m but they make the person who's handling them into a t which is why couldn't understand it it was many alapon this apher kosher got mixed up with apher mikla for mikla is gornish regular ashes so the iso If you have paradum ashes, it's going to actually be mat the person who is handling it. Rubik then fracturum is if you're telling me that that bottle is still there and it can be reawakened and by adding other kinds of similar kinds of stuff. So matama you're right it won't become ma because it's but latama masa and it sounds like you're not going to even have tumas masa masa. carrying it. That means it's definitely being carried. It's part of the mixture. So answers, but you're right. It's only going to be a ma. But you're right. If you're carrying it, that which is still present and therefore it will be. All right, let's try another. If you have a lot of flesh and some noa falls into it, it becomes ble and therefore and the rationale is because it's not considered it's the gears that we have in our but actually really rashi changes the gear. It really should be a can never have the property of a noa. A noa actually could become hut because once it becomes su but aut can never achieve the properties of noa and therefore it's considered like and therefore you'll have ble but but like what we're saying byia that the do that's ble is still present. So if you're carrying this whole pile of meat, you are carrying some in there should it should still be so will say back you said this over and therefore you have a problem but and that's very different because Tony learned either one could be the to the other one the law and on You're right. It will be so so again we have not upshug this idea that that which is bottle is still presenting from our mission of dam it outputed this dam which we don't know what it is you got to bury it as Rashi had learned on the Mishna because it's a sufficar but the garra did speak out that really it's also because of the fact that we want to be everybody that it's going to be from as the mission says but on I'm mine. I hear that there's going to be a so there won't be any ma cuz I'm carrying it. And that's she says you're going to be not the masa. So was quiet. He didn't have a terret but maybe there's a term. It could be that there's a lower level that even this won't achieve a nea because it's disgusting. Well, that's going to depend. Tom which is noa in order for it to have masa the nea has to be considered roi and therefore if it's not to the g meaning that gishv a person then it won't have the masa and vmala which is going to be ma it has to be so bad that it's not for so and therefore that would be enough according to that it won't be at all so that's why it would make sense turning to a dog and therefore it should still have its will until it's no longer to a personal as we said. So what's the it has to be for the so then we that we connect to the g himself. So in a Korean what does he do with this that's only coming where the no itself started off being let's say the animal became all rotted while it was still alive like gang green and then once it dies it's already putrid as a noa and what would say about that case because at that point it's not even like food that you have to be [clears throat] we learned in our same said [clears throat] no which we explained yesterday it's this how the will work to say there's no but yet they will still from a future why you even coming on to the to take care of the toma this thing is gross it shouldn't even convey to him in the first place and it's not true let's say the person shed the mother animal before the was outputed. It could have been eaten with the mother and therefore it was a non. Let's talk about the Mishna in the sixth paran where we talked about yesterday about the fish brine. If let's say this if a small amount of water goes in it will be because we're talking about with that's owned by as we talked about yesterday and you need to have the hasha with the kasher mikvah water to take care of it. So you took care of the hashaka and now a small amount of water is added to the tir. So now it makes that again they will mix an equal amount of water with the seir with the fish juice. So if it's an even split between and so even if you add just a little bit more water now it's going to be. So now we're concerned that the tumer tuma that that little extra water from the amar is going to be the tum from the water that was previously thereacting. Why do you have to explain that the Mish talking about the amarits used to use 50% equal amount water? Same problem should be there even if there was less than equal amount of water that was mixed with this new small water because hav pala as long as you reach half you don't have to have water to be a problem even equal water would be the same kind of problem so the mask me right as long as you have up to the same amount of water that will be a problem and is raon in a case where the ra is a mixture that's when the raon says it's tal if it's exactly 50/50 split goon and therefore that's Maybe why they said you have to have RA.