Bechoros Daf 18

All right. This is Tuesday's daf and we have been discussing the about or clearly holds it and shim and there was a sh in the gar whether or not according to the do we say is it also that it's there is a question in the how to understand on the of is it whether or not it's physically possible or whether or not or how do we measure it from our perception at the m rashi ram versus typhus but we're jumping around shas now to bring ryas either way and the last one we talked about was the kale and the mikdash. Now we're going to pick it up with um of kina seven lines from the bottom of y of ads of kina. Let's say you take a which we know becomes taro when you break it up. But let's say you break it into two pieces and the two pieces seem to be totally equal in size because there's [clears throat] no bigger and smaller piece and therefore since they're equal in size they're both going to be. So we see that even and this is clearly even with things that are it's impossible specifically by because the pieces themselves are not smooth but but by other things maybe just not by because of its nature. All right. Spring arrive from the Mishna byluf. Let's say the dead body was found exactly between two cities and both cities will bring an egglar time because so we see that it's possible to be exactly in between the different cities. This is by the way one of the riots the bring that it's not about the intention of a person being but rather it's about how to measure it because nobody's intending to drop a body in between two cities. It's wherever the dead body happened to have fallen in its place. But the point is you see from Alzar that they're both going to bring an egg must be it can be multiple cities because moving over. So there's no reason to think that this is going to be maka what we hold in just want to point out an interesting rashi on the bottom of bay where rashi understands that the lumbness of how the two different cities would both bring an eggluff according to that the other option would be that they would bring one animal and on the second to bottom line inu if you're the closer one like to you and it's just very interesting that Rashi should use the word because is only when there's You can't be mach something with a point out that this rashi does seem to be saying that there could be a that could enact a transaction that I can be to you of something even though there's no okay but moving on maybe this issue is because the price says orphan they would not do at all. Both cities will bring two meaning each one will bring their own. Now my same verb. So that could be the whole is whether or not it's the wellbra would that be a way to understand. Why would they say you don't do any at all? They should only bring one and then just make it just like that rashi we were just talking about. must be that both the areas that it is you can be exactly between the two different cities of okay but my low bottom line it's we have a brace that says Now my say that they should bring one that they should each bring their own. And if you're saying that that's what the drush of the puss coming to say one city but not two because they should both have to bring and therefore neither can bring. Okay, that's the end of that. Then the Mishna said if there are two that come out the gets to pick the better of the two. So my time at why does say the gets the better one. So the healthier one came out first. So that must be thear and therefore there's not even a suffic moment. I can tell you for sure that this is the one that was intended for the kay. But then the mission brought that the fatter one is between them. It's very strange lotion really. So let's understand what this means. That means the kay takes the weaker one. Correct the gammoro. How does that work in the words? It says that the kite the fat the is between them which sounds like we divide it. So it sounds like the kite should take the weaker one and then take the extra amount of fatness and divide it. That's what it sounds like from the words. So while you were eating your dates in we learned this based on what the Mishna said later on which sounds like he was just insulting him. Of course, the kavasar that goes through all the different insults of shas. He says that you were jumped too early because these dates need to ripen and you should have gone viter inside the Mishna. But anyway, divide it and that's what the mash means. If they were going to divide it equally down the middle then that would be the same even when one of these two different animals dies and then you should divide the last one down the middle. But since Rubika doesn't say that we got to say that's not what Rubika meant in the earlier part of the mission as well. What did we mean by we pus based on the schmaltz of the fat of this animal the extra fat is between them because the bum gets to tell the cayenne I see the bring me that the better one is the otherwise get lost because all of so the doesn't mean we're dividing the schmaltz like assumed it just means this is the between them and therefore says the way you is that then the said that second animal that the bum keeps he can't eat it right away. He has to first let it develop a mum and then he can sh and eat it. He has to give the mat from that animal to the so mayor. Why does her mayor say? So whatever happened the has two different the whole animal is bine and therefore I'm certainly entitled to the inside of it and if you're telling me that this animal is not a on that side well then then it's not a and therefore I'm like regular verb now why say you're potter from giving the matuna because also According to the treated the like someone who didn't get the like someone who got the even though the never came to his command it's as if it did and therefore he sold it to the yid in its mat of being a balum in exchange for the nonar that he got. So because the is considered like it was sold to him the bum's put for the mat. So in other words is that the kayen gets it. Either it's a b and I get it because I get it anyway or it's and I get it anyway because it's buti holds if it's a doesn't get it and since it's a sufficar it's like any other kind of he doesn't get it. Now why does hold that on the he doesn't get it. It's because he holds the cayenne on the bakar and therefore when you do the exchange for the se it bibes like a makira because the cayenne taking this first animal betra s. So this ends up being more like an exchange where he's actually selling the bakar for this set because it's the kayen can't that the belongs to him and even though it's only a sake there still is going to be that he can't claim it the sufficipar that doesn't have it meaning it's it's exchanged animal that to still give to the so now we're talking about a single safar where you're swapping it out for the set. So in such a case even mask when the bum is going to he's got to give the gave it to the kayen because the cayenne got nothing in exchange for the sufficar you can't say that maybe there's a here of the to the now he has the belongs to him and therefore he should get the kahun who is this to give us because of the and therefore it's like a taking place but there's no exchange for this of course is not going to the so why did need to tell would be in such a case and for the maintain because without you know what I would have thought time if we're going to be the to give the he might think that he can use the for the which we know is so in order to be able To avoid that tells us that where the cayenne didn't get any kind of exchange for this the to give the matas to the fract we say that is coming to talk about to make sure the should and when we say we're going to be talking about the bay turning over to but it sounds like so vice says according to the can't be because of some sort of zer because that's whether or not there's a by the so it's got nothing to do with potential so why according to he have to tell something because saying you might have a problem and that's going to be even according to you that we're not afraid of the being used for looked at this like as if someone who got it and then sold it back for another animal still the violence to give the matima the case of safik micer of micer behemoth for the matonis fora the case of suffic micer she learns because it went back in to get mixed up with the other animals kat that is they all have to be doesn't like that shot. He says a different shot. But this mayor Arab mayor from our Mishna that says that by a safar you still have to give them he'll be masking by the sufficer because the cayenne has this double either give it to me or I'll give it to meer would be light. So why do need to tell us this garment mayor I feel something but no kamasha is not going to be worried about that concern people are not going to forget about the mat and therefore you're going to be look at what the mission says if had anything to do with would have had to address that so again What's the repo telling us about mayor that you're going to be there for us? Why? The whole Mishna is talking about their so in order to go can I get that has to tell us that mayor's not and then the mission said that if one of these two dies now remember in the first part of the missionar said that gets the better one because we assume that the stronger one is the one that won the day and got out first and that's the Bakar so fractur now amayaku why should they divide the remaining one that lived that survived. Let's check it out. Is miss if the fatter more gishmaka one died. So then that's the viabas and this weaker one is just going to be the bums. There's no reason to divide it the miss if the weaker one died the balabas. We know that that was the biases that it died and the one that's alive meaning the more shing one is the k. Either way there's no sake here was from his earlier. And now he's going to hold that. The order that they came out is not going to be determined by its health. And therefore, since we don't know which one was first or second, you have to divide them between the bum and the cayen. Then the mission said now two people who gave animals as a to a shepherd and then one of the animals dies and now each one of the people who was maf and animal says hey the living one's mine that is this who doesn't want to have this headache he's not a to make a here he can just say you guys fight it out I'm putting this between you and I'm I'm out of this which is another way of saying but here also by this case of tariff we're going to say the two were given to a third party and therefore when one dies the surviving one is between the and the bum who says is one person who gave his animal to another who has animals and then an animal died and both the maf and the nfka are saying it was the other guy's animal that died in that case it's is we're going to argue by the two people who gave it to the that's not going to be also going to have a about one guy who gave his animal to another with other animals. No. So that can't be the both are going to agree to those different. So where are they going to have a papa when two people gave their animals to aa and one of the animals died could just put the animal between them and let them divide it there's no either of those cases let's say the two that were born in the of the is the of There. You can assume that the was of allowing him to be that were born right away because we can assume that a person is happy that a mitzvah should be done with his own. So he looks at this like the two people who gave their animals to and that's why it's going to be according to but the suffer is since the bum could suffer a loss by giving him maybe he wasn't anything to the even though there's a potential mitzvah here he's not masking so that's how we're understanding the taran how do we look at the das of the whether or not he wants to be the immediately to the or Not you have these two sheep that had not yet given birth and therefore their each one gave birth to a let's if each one of the sheep gave birth to a and a well then each goes to the one of the will go to the bum one will go to the kay the kayen gets to have the better one for himself. which we understand to mean that the bum gets to keep the better one while the cayenne has to get the one and the second one has to hang around until it gets and the bum has to give the mat and these were all the different quotes that we had in the previous gum let's say one of these animals dies you divide up the remaining living one and because of this we understood that waser from his earlier and therefore He doesn't get anything. Two females and one male. So at that point, we don't even know if there's any here at all. Let's say one of the mother animals already had given birth. And they gave birth to two different. So only one is going to be a one. The bum gets the better one holds that other one that the bum gets to keep. Mayor is now if one of them died. And the last case is and we don't know which one was born to which one because this will certainly be a classic. Now there's a lot of repeat cases here. I need the Mishna to give me all these different suck because about the one animal that gave birth to two at the same time because two came out of one sheep and there's no reason to assume that there's a and there's no reason to assume that either one could be the Bakar because they came out at the same time but by two mother animals that had never yet given birth where two came out of one and one came out from another get the better one because A animal that was born without another twin with it is going to be more and superior and stronger than the one that had to be a roommate inside the mother animal. So in order to say not that kind of the mission needs to say this again is going to argue with their mission would have only told me the case of case of the two different mothers that were maybe that gets the better one. moving over to the because the one that had never given birth is going to be more than the one who had previously given birth and therefore we can assume it was the for that also then we have and we will stop here and pick it up with the Mishna for Tomorrow.