Bechoros Daf 14

All right. This is Friday's Duff and we're picking it up with the Mishna at the top of your any which we know can't have a mum. But let's say I went ahead and I was so now that of course is the raom says and it's actually a big deal. And why does the raom say you get malus? Maybe it's like but is certainly to be. So what's going to be the mativ of a carbon that you're illegally and then you're paid. So once you take away this it goes back to being and therefore now all the exist by regular it has and the and you could do with such an animal which you wouldn't if they would be meaning if the only happened after the then even after you would not be able to do and is going to be mutad and their milk will be mut because it goes back. So all these are going to be because it goes back to its original status as if it was never hooked. But as Rashi says this kind of an animal even before you're not going to be for because as we're going to see the only time you're really for is an animal that was really and this one's not that it won't even have at all. It'll have no transference of kaduca you have to and if they die you still have to do the pad. Now normal that are mess you can't do because first of all it's a and second of all because it's not but the mission is saying that those reasons are not to an animal that had a before it was hooked to begin with and therefore it's could be nifty even though it's going to remain not to be eaten by people and it also is not as the will explainer except for that in those kinds of situations where the mum precedes the kaduca then the animal will only have kaducasim because by it's born even with the mum, it's still going to have kadusha. The only problem is you can't bring it as a carbon. And by micer, it won't matter if there's a mum or not, it's still going to have its kaduca. So behemoth bur or behemoth messer that had a mum right from the beginning is just like a regular kind of a carbon that developed a mum after its kadusha and then was subsequently nif which brings us to the second half of this. You have a regular animal that was hooked and then it developed a m. So it's the m that was there wasn't a m that was permanent. It was a and then afterwards a real full-fledged mum developed and then you were paid to them. So now you're going back to at that point and will be and that will be all but if you that's going to be classic because before the and it can affect me and if they died before their pad they have to be buried because they still hold on to a level of kadusha in the first part of the Mishna that said that the mum preceded their hedish the Mishna says that once you're ped them they go back to being forkar and for matanus so it's only because you were ped them let's say you wouldn't have been ped them even though they only have and explains because the holds that the kad that it has is enough to push off and then the said once You're and therefore they're only because you were these animals. Had you not been ped them which is messiahzar or the gear might actually bear. So if there's no they still be the truth is it's not really a ride to because I'm lightadim the miss is talking about kadush dumim of animals that would go to msb we're always used to separating kaducious a goof and kaducious dum but there's really different kinds of kaducious dum kaducious dum that's like a chair that I'm makdish and then there's an animal that can't be brought on that and also has kadush dum but you can hear that the animal that is shy in theory to being put on the misbeh is in a different category that's the kaducious dum less because by case of it could be confused with real which is going to go on the and therefore go real classic which is not at all would not necessarily have any so it's not necessarily a then the said is that the from these animals and their their milk are going to be mut once you are them what's it If we're saying that these were conceived and born after the of their mother, I mean that's once you do a and then they got pregnant. So of course they're not heish. Why should I even think there would be? Ella must be those mothers became pregnant before the pad and they were born after the pad which we can therefore take out from this vice. If they would have been born before the mother's pad, they would be user. In other words, they're going to have that prey in kaducim and therefore it's going to have an ism until their own when they become even though they themselves don't have a mum they can't be brought on the because their kaduca comes from a kadusha that's how rashi learns it because their mother's kadusha was gestar so so too they are as well turning over to bes so those vlad which are born before the mother's padia are going to be user until they have their own padia so frankim can they have a padia even when they have no mim or do we need to way around for them to develop a mum in order to do their pad like a classic carbon which you're not allowed to be pa unless it has a mum I'll bring you because if you're misus to a balm that has a and then afterwards it gives birth to aim that should be sold you don't need a in order to sell it why because there's no new that tuffle meaning that vad should not have more kashivas and more kaduca than the mother and since the mother's lack of kadusha allowed her to be nifa right away so the vlad which is only kadesh al the mother could certainly be na right away and there's no reason to wait for a mum so the bryce is basically telling us that the vlad can be nift even when they are and not from this bryce we can see the reason is as we explained let's say if someone would directly be a rashi learns over here is an other say it's any male animal but let's just go with Rashi. If you have a zer is which is not a lid of it would still be since it's to be brought as a carbon it automatically gets that kind of and therefore it can only be if it has a so then the said if you an animal that had a before you were and you did that you're going to be putter this is how learned the if you saying that the is talking about an animal that was brought as a bash. How do you know that if you say that you're going to be over if this is not even to a regular because we already know it that you can't bring those kinds of animals that have as a carbon it must be telling us but maybe we could say that really is learning this is only talking about not So we need the from being brought since the bar is kadesh even when it's a balum as we already said immediately has its kadusha even if it's born as so maybe I can even bring it as a carbon that's what the that might be learning from here that is when it's a and therefore we're not learning anything they said and so since we have so that he brought isn't needed for that and therefore it's available to a from being brought on a maybe I'll say that is talking about because this is another example of when a does not seem to it because you need a pic to tell me that aum messer can't be brought on a balast of so once again since we already have taken care of alav from Bkar so therefore it'll be available well there's a third option maybe the puzzle that brought is only talking about and if we don't need to be talking about regular bonus since can become Even when it has a so might be telling us that it doesn't work to bring it even can't be brought when it is a also once again the gar saying no rel would need it for this because so also cannot be brought when it has a carpets we already knew that as well mask okay but ama I can say there's puss talking about a bas and is not nea to regular kbonus Because since they are even when they come out as a because of the mother had I would have to delight to that again says only your animals that you are going to have and So this dasha is covering all the bases by these kinds of things that have their even though they are then the an animal that already had a can't make the one says that a bad animal can't be swapped out with a good one. So Rami boy cuz this one's worse as a balum but ra so that's how our mission will know that tamura cannot be applicable to an animal that was first a bal before you were mishid and we will call it here and we'll pick it up with the me you have to for shabas/mminadas