Chullin Daf 99

All right, daft Friday's daff. So yesterday we were talking about the aisle of the nuzer that we learn out that there's an exception to that rule that we'll say by that but we won't say about other things and the gar was working out what rule is it that we say is going to work by the aisle but won't work by other kinds of let's pick it up at the second to bottom line on so as opposed to the first terret was it's that says min but in this case it is now we're saying the uniqueness of the ner is that is normal by kudim the tam the flavor of something that's user is going to be as user as the substance of that thing itself therefore the bryce is telling us davka in that case by the aisle no that the tom of the kchum will be sh moving over to the ligma if you're telling me that the aisle no we'd say the kicker is going to be bottle that by the nuzer the tom is so why don't we learn that out everywhere else to which the gar says there's a special by the carbon that the terra tells us when nonas Bosser like a schlamim or hulen comes into contact with a katas that the Torah tells us that whatever touches the meat and absorbs some of its tam will have that kadusha and it'll have the same den like the carbonas whose flavor it taka was absorbing and that is to say that if that carbon katus is pus then the meat that touched it will also be likewise ple and if the katus is okay then that meat will have the to be eaten like with all the of that carbonas. So you have the counter pressure of this to counteract from the ligma of the Nazeri who says to which way to go maybe we should learn it from the Za of the Nazer and say that they're going to be the case of that if that's the case the same way as before and ligma remember the whole context of having this issue was because we were using the Nazer to teach us the bashishim or thea depending on yoshita So that also shouldn't be learned from theirs to which the says no we're learning. No it's not true because we're learning but really it should be the saying that in order to be the you either need 60 or 100 that's ara not and therefore the we can learn out. Now we're up to the third mahalak which is ram. The Bryce is saying that there's a uniqueness in a by the Nuzer is talking only about that area where the actual cutting took place meaning it is an example for but this that the is unique is only that in the there's a but here by the case of this that was cut by the Nazar and you might remember this earlier from by the comes out of the animal that the moat has a special but that will not exist by the is no yim All these are going to be but they can be one to 100 I the Mishna says in the second parl the that's giving these kind of categories and it gives these headings that whenever you have a do that's leven with truma or spices where you mix truma and by putting them together in one pot we're always going to be meaning the truma and the are made out of the same min. So we're machm and we asser this dough if either you can taste the tam or even if you can't taste it but it's less than 1 to1 100. So that's so when do we say it's going to be said what's that example that's grem cooking with together the and the grem over here are going to be truma and they're being mixed with the if the gre can actually give taste into this mixture then I don't care if there's 101 or it's going to be because I can taste the duster but ain't but let's say I can't taste the grease in anymore. or then it'll be but what does the mission say? The mission tells us in this last case that when the trum is mixed with something that's not it and you can't taste it we're make even though there's not enough to be at 101. So LMI what are we talking about how much was there to be so that gets mixed with the doeter is not going to be if it's in 60 turning over to bea the miss is telling us that in the case we don't say the of truma which requires 101 but instead only needs so it's not a 101 but rather it's just 100 but it's certainly not going to be 60 va of bashim since the mishna's first part of the mishna when truma was being mixed with kul in that that was a 1 to 100 when we're talking about truma mixed with of it should be 1 to 60 don ratio because we learned in the first part of the kate said what's that case that's all wheat so it's all it's going to be because it's all also there's not enough in the in 101 and it'll Because if the whole dough doesn't have a 100 times the of the truma, it's going to be whether or not you could taste and that's the unique by truma by that's not by so now. So ra you told me both cases in the mission are both talking about 100. It seems strange the mission would give the same case twice. There's no difference in the two cases of back. They're both talking about 100 but it's 101 parts of whereas the more thing which is the next part of the mission is talking about only 100 parts not 101 parts. So what are we saying here that according to that when Raasi says 101 in both the earlier and later parts of the Mishna he actually means 101 parts of soay if 101 means 101 parts how can the Mishna say that when there is in the enough to be the is going to be even if there's 101 since there's no way you're going to have any time anymore to which was sounded like he was mask ctor of deiashan you have different levels of how strong the is and therefore it's that a piece of this is able to actually impart a into 101 times its size so back of you reminded me something that said that they're not all the same really a nusher fish brine could give its flavor 1 to 200 as we learned in the Mishna in the 10th per of trumus dager reve So you see that there are going to be different levels of how strong something can actually be. But now that we brought up this thing about the fish brine fractur so how can it be understood that according to there is a sh over here because according to it's mashma that if you have a reus with more than it'll be bottle and for the garu this fish brian is talking different because it's only considered the moisture from the fish as a result of the salting of the fish but it's not really part of the fish itself and therefore this is the way Tyus learns it's actually it's only and therefore that says is not but is only by not only things that are also This itself is not so whe they're not rebuked was saying is only by but that's how we'll learn this. Okay. Now getting back to the mission that says if you cook an entire with no then it's saying so K said whether or not the giranosha actually put the tam into the and the mission that said was like the buser with the le the meat in the turnipss that's the buser like the meat in turnip tops because the top of a turnip is stronger than its root. Therefore, you would need more buser to impart a tam into the top portion of the turnipss than its root. Okay. Now this they were saying that when you cook the bus or where they get it's going to be because of the Tom there is no Tom for it's not going to impart any kind of time in the buser it's not nice about such a case where the buser was cooked with a ginosha was sitting by the entrance when the person came out said what did Did he sayab this buser? Omar sh was mhuda bring it back in and ask him again. So Omar when he went back in said who's the one who come such a chic over here tell the one that's sitting by the entrance and therefore it's going to be he when people would go to ask about food that was cooked with he would send them to but he himself meaning himself he didn't hold this way and the finally says they do not give off any kind of flavor and therefore whether or not the ginosha was cooked or it was malua or it was roasted with other things it's only going to ask the ginosha itself and not the rest of the food that's with it but Rashi says only the gdanosha itself is what has no t butan the shumid all that that's around the ganosha is going to actually give off tab so practically speaking it's going to still be al says dindon and we're going to call it here and pick it up with ganosha bash for shabasaf