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All right.
Thursday's daff and let's pick it up on
the fifth wide line of at the two dots.
So the mission says clearly that there
is an issa on both giddon on the left
side of the animal and on the right side
of the animal
is only to get to one of these different
thighs of the animal.
And logically we should say that's the
right side. It's kind of an odd thing
for a tana to say. So what does he mean?
Is it really that it's on the right
side? And what does it mean when he says
his das is mass? It's dyra which doesn't
mean how we use the expression but
rather means the terra itself says that
the right gid is the one that's
maybe himself is misupic. Which one of
these two gidd is what the terra ass?
And when it says that the das is makas,
that's just das na that his own svara
leads him to believe that the right one
is the one that's user. But he's not
really 100% sure. In other words,
there's still a mativ here and it won't
be user vad. Now we're going to spend a
little time trying to bring a raya this
says the right one is it vad
from the
nicer the bones sus and all the
leftovers of the carbon peser.
You have to burn it on the 16th of
Nissan. In other words, you p the 14th
of Nissan and you eat it on the night of
the 15th. And if you don't finish it, it
becomes nicer and has to be burned. So
even though the meat is also
you burn it on the 16th, which is the
first day of
what's going to be with the mission is
talking about because that was part of
the list.
So what gidden are we talking about if
it's regular gidden meaning the edible
parts? So you should eat it on the 15th.
Why are you burning it on the 16th?
Vatur and if you're telling me that
really they should have been eaten and
it was just leftover. So then how nicer
it's already included when we said nicer
in that list must be it's the inedible
hard gidden in the neck that you don't
ever eat. And as Rashi says that's why
it got listed together with bones
because it's not edible. But
if it's not edible then it never has a
to burn in the first place. Why do you
have to burn it? Because only the edible
meat becomes nicer. The inedible parts
you just toss.
We're not talking about these thin in
the neck. We're talking about the
according the is only on one of the
that's what we're talking about when we
say the gid. Now let's try to understand
if you're telling me you're which one of
these two gidd is since one of them is
mut you can't eat either because you're
which one is the right one and therefore
you have to burn both of them. But let's
say according to the ga is vi the right
thigh g. So then why does the mission
say they have to be burned?
The mut one should be eaten and the one
just discard it. So from the fact that
tells us he got to burn it must be he's
mupic about which one is the user one
and which one is the mutter one of
really I'll tell you knows for a fact
that it's the right and then normally
you would eat the left one and you would
throw away the right one but
so I don't know which one of these two
is from the right or from the left. So
since one of them is royal but you can't
practically eat either of them you got
to burn them both. Moving over to
when we're talking about the gid in that
we weren't talking about the gosha but
rather the shain the fat around the
ganosha because the bry says sham is
not to eat it but it bats is really mut.
So since it's but there's only a midn
not to eat it that's why you burn it on
the 16th of Nissan
it's talking about a different kind of
gid specifically like
there's actually two gidd that run
through the thigh
the inner one which is closer to the
bone is that's the real and you get
malus but are the outer one which is
closer to the meat to the outside of the
flesh
It's only so since the outer one is
buton and you practically can't eat it.
That's why you burn it on the 16th. So
the no is the real giranha in the
conventional sense. Let's try again from
the coming up.
Let's say you had a kaz of ganosha from
the right thigh and also another kaz
from the gdanosha of the left thigh.
It's not talking about repeating the
same but both legs. So the if you eat a
kaz from each you get you get two sets
of malus
and you only get 40. Okay. So
If you're telling me that holds the
right one is vad going to get malus and
the left one is v that's why you're
going to get one set of malus but alsaf
let's sayuda says you're only going to
do the right one may suffra
when you come to get the it's always a
saf because you don't know for sure that
this is the lav of the tyra sure the guy
definitely did a lav because he ate both
kizim but you can't say that when he did
the aa that was the iserman hatyra
because it's a suffic according to thead
and therefore it is going to be
the classic case of the guy who hits his
father who his actual father is
going to be
is because it's so you have audition
because
this Tana who learned the Mishna learns
like the other Tana who had a different
version of the suffic so even if he'll
still say you're going to get one set of
malus and I'll show you this other Tana
that holds her holds
because the P says
why
love to say you don't get
ain't like a love but what do we see
from that if not for the fact that the
ter gave you I say afterwards you would
get malas even though it's only vice
according to this version of
so we're still looking for a ria one way
or the other about let's try again let's
bring a from this
now we're talking about two different
animals and you ate two different from
each one of the respective right and
left thighs so
the fact that we're specifically talking
about two different animals
must be we're talking about where both
of these were in other words that they
came from that same side of the animal
meaning that
and the reason for this seemingly
because we're trying to show theuda
that even though it came from two
different animals hence two still holds
you're going to get one set of malus and
that would be theuda but if about which
one is user he couldn't give you malus
at all so
must be that it's push that you're going
to Malcus for the right one and the
garam. Now getting back to this idea of
the Bryce you're telling me that
according to it's the right girosha
that's
so why do you only get one set of malus
ate from two different animals two
rightsided giranoshas. So you should get
two sets of malusk and what's the case
we're talking about going to le by
kazayas each individual giranosha didn't
have a kaz of a together they're to one
shear so behuda holds you're only one
set of malus because you have to eat a
kazayas but the tanakama holds that if
you eat the entire ganha from malus even
though it's less than a kazayas as rashi
says because of the of barrier the whole
giranha even though it's therefore
that's why the tanakama is going to hold
you're going to get two sets of malus
says
But
all right. So now our Gomorra is very
satisfied according to it's that the
right is the one that
give me a mucker. How do you know it's
the right one versus the left one? Omar
the thigh. So it sounds like
it's the more one of the two thighs
which is going to be the right one.
Okay. But that actually and according to
the raan who don't seem to den that way
what do they do with
according to the way the raan understand
this is that the goes through the whole
thigh. So it helps define which one of
the two gidden we're talking about delay
as we mentioned there's an outer one and
that's not the dika one at least not
form
that the malik when he hit yakavinu and
dislocated his thigh he wrestled with
him that's the lotion of
so because it's a wrestling technique so
the way you wrestle it is you grab the
other guy in your which is a lotion of
embracing him and since your right hand
is wrapping around him you're going to
grab the right thigh from behind
when he was fighting with Jacob, he made
himself look like a guy and therefore
would stand on the left side of the
malik. What's that about?
If a yid finds himself alongside of a
guy on the road, the yid should keep the
guy on his right side because this way
if the guy makes a move and tries to
draw his weapon, the yid is ready there
with his right hand to use his craft and
take him down.
made.
You can just imagine the donus on this
kind of that the appeared to Jacob as a
and therefore Jacob was going to give
him cover and put himself on the left
side of the malikari
if you walk on the right side of your
har as Rashi says it's not there and
according to that both gidanoshas are
going to be user how did they understand
what happened there with Jacob and the
mayura
they understand the story that the malik
sucker punched Jakob from behind and
therefore knocked out both the right and
left gedon at the same time. Hi,
where's the wrestling that the are going
to make because they don't seem to be
using it?
They were kicking up a lot of dust and
it went all the way up to the and of
course this is aim
about what's going to happen with the
gulus and Israel's children and the
avakraum which is a reference to the
many trials and tribulations of Kali
Israel that would happen for the darus
to come.
And likewise, as it also says in the
first paragraph of
because it was it moved from its place
and went up
that their strength went away and they
became weaker like so. So apparently
things shifted and moved.
Israel
that Hashem sent something in which
Hashem had done himself.
Based on this there's an forel
that said to his servants to bring the
flesh for his brothers. So when he told
them to bring it he was telling them to
make sure that it should be properly and
therefore
he showed them that it was gashen
properly.
and to prepare it to ganosha bifam
that's a reference to taking out the
ganosha in front of them to see that
he's being careful to show that it was
kosher which is interesting because at
this point ysef hasn't given himself
away to his brothers that he is but I
should just point out the very important
rashi over here about
they kept the mitzvah
now remember according to the precious
held they had it but the shift believed
that they had it so I didn't see anybody
talk about this but perhaps Y was being
careful not to be them and that's why he
was being sensitive to the fact that
they would be onita and now the Gar
fears ice command Omar ganosha
the gar is now suggesting that if the
isser of ginosha is for everybody that's
why would be careful to take out the
ganosha and tyus wants to know maybe yif
was only taking it away because he was
being machid on their mitzvah and
showing them that he cares not because
of his own of ganha maybe that pushim
can help over here also y didn't want to
tip his hat that he knew that they were
mocked Shmiritzvon
let's get back into the famous of the
story much of this is a of the rashis
and parish says
that was all alone why was he all alone
where was his family
he stayed behind because he wanted to
get the smaller
which obviously doesn't mean that
sadikim look at money as more valuable
than life but they recognize the value
that if hashem gave me this money I'm
supposed to use it I'm supposed to have
it and therefore there's a kashiv even
for the and that might be in a broader
sense but the merger says
the things that have are more because
they came in more of a way
they fought until the morning
shouldn't go out alone at night because
was alone and he got hurt
we know that from the following turning
over
that wouldn't come home until after the
night because he wouldn't go out at
night time by himself.
Got up in the morning and he was dot dot
dot. Rashi learns it's going to be the
right Tyus is a different pock but you
see that he didn't want to travel. No,
you want to travel by day
to go and check on your brothers and
that was by day because because the you
got to see it. We're assuming didn't
have night vision goggles.
that the sun rose for.
I asked in the marketplace
because they were doing the shopping for
the and the makes the point to show that
even when they were doing their
shopping, they were talking and learning
that the sun was rising for him. Well,
it only rose for him.
The sun had already set earlier because
of him and now it got up for him for his
pineal.
So one puss seems to say that yakov went
all the way to but the other was based
spent the night. So which one was it?
Omar
is it possible I went to a place where
my
he wanted to go back to Israel and dra
the ground between and B got smaller
there was a
and that's why he ded in bas
once he finished ding he wanted to go
back to
sadina
this sadic has come to my resting place
which is ultimately going to be where
the Mikdash has and he's not going to
stay here for the night. No, no, no.
Miyadesh. Hashem made a nice and the sun
set requiring Jacob to spend the night
right there. So because of this business
with the sun, there's an interesting
nitiv because we know there's a rash
and there's another whether it's
carbonus or ticknam. So while the gumar
doesn't put those two maku together rash
shabas and says that the reason why
there's a difference between which are
and which might be a rashus because it
might be that they're connected carbonus
and the carbon didn't happen at night
but the nitiv in the shtus and suggests
that yakov when he came to davin mere
the reason why tyis is different than
philiska and shak is k the potential
because he really wasn't trying to davva
but there was a nice at the sun set
early so it's hard to make that the kas
when the intention really would have
been under normal circumstances to be
diving
took all the stones and put them around
his head.
What's going on? So famous
all the rocks gathered together
let him lay his head on me. That's what
each rock said.
they all became one big rock
that had and the ladder was on the
ground and the top of it was in the
shayim and the were going up and down
etc. So t we learned in the bry
how wide was the ladus
8,000 which if you do the math which I
certainly did not it would be 64 million
amus or 24,000 miles pretty wide
that means there are two that were side
by side two are going down side by side
and therefore at the point where they
would meet each other and passing each
other there were four across on the
ladder
And it says that
its body is like the sea of we have a
messiah that the trial parave it's 2,000
par wide. Hence we get the we had said
ton we learned in the
shaim looked at the image of this is all
based on the vision of the mav that
hadnata
and they looked down at the image of
Jacob below the sakun. They became
jealous and they wanted to hurt Jacob.
Hashem stood to protect Jacob from the
whatever all this means.
You couldn't say such a thing is because
it's making Hashem very humanike. It's
protecting his son like a parent that
protects his child from the heat and is
fanning him. Then the P says
that I'm going to give this land to your
what's so great about this
Hashem folded up the whole
and put it under Jacob should
in order to make it easier that the
Israel should be like that his anlo
should be able to capture
that after Yakavina was able to overcome
as it said you got to send me away
because the sun came Omar Yakov said to
him,
"What are you, a thief or aust either a
kidnapper or a gambler? I would have
added to this. Maybe he's a vampire, but
why are you afraid of the morning?" So,
Omar
from the day I was created, I haven't
had the chance to sing Shira until now.
And for whatever reason, this is the
time now I have to say Shira.
There are three groups that are saying
Shira on each day.
All
right, we're going to stop here by the
me and M will pick it up from here