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All right. Today is Dav Pav. This is
Shabus's daf and we're going to pick it
up on Pam and Bay's 13 lines from the
bottom I think with a story.
Unfortunately had a problem with moths
in his bead. So you don't go to the
exterminator you go to Rebi. So
rebi said you know what the is
the bird over the water where the is
soaking
where the moths will become disgusted by
the smell of the dum and they will
leave. So while it sounds like a good
idea but
how can you do that
if a person doesn't really want to eat
the ber and all they want to do is get
the dam still.
So how do you handle getting dam out of
an animal without requiring a
but it's clear from this brace that if
you do a proper you will be so rebi give
him such for the kiosmar say to rebi
never told him to he told him to make it
into a traa then because once it's a
traa that is not going to be requiring a
because as we said yesterday rebi liked
that is
rebi told not to tra the bird up but to
do. So say according to he said that
rebi said to make the bird into my time
say why didn't he like why did he go
with
maybe you're going to say that according
to rebi there is no
at all
and therefore you would be
he would need to do I'll say that holds
there is
all the are they're all from. So
according to rebi if a bird requires
the is only going to be when you have a
real not so why say that you should do
why do you only say do a traus moving
over to let me
say which certainly would have
there's more of a
from
according to who learned the other way
to go and do my time
like we were just handling
this was yesterday's d that rebi saw the
that's why he learned it under the name
of the to give it more so since
So why couldn't Robin say that Reb's
advice to was to make the bird into a
tra and then it why wouldn't that take
care of the
other way
to that for sure would
like
but if you would do the
maybe you would be for because never
required at all
CBC
that since we have a mess that was told
by Hashem to do a vad will not be
sufficient over here talks about
that would be enough to aadam
similar to the whole about a suka that
gora says
even though it's only there's another
potential issue to talk about here about
what the he is to make the animal into a
traa I guess you could do it in a way
that's not sim or baltashkas because now
the person needs it because he needs it
for his moth problem. But on the story,
could it really been that his flax
actually had moth problems?
From the time when people gull came up
to this is not talking about Rashi says
there were these that people were being
lax in their mitzvah and therefore there
was these problems and Hashem sent all
kinds of problems for them. There were
natural disasters and weather incidents.
So when these came up
these natural disasters and the people's
wine didn't become
and their flax was not afflicted by
these moths
and assumed that because of the and what
do you see thatim protected people's
piston from having these infestations.
So how can you say that his flax was
afflicted by these moths and for the
that's
it helped tak but didn't help him for
themselves. You find that sadikim can
take care of their generation without
actually giving any benefit to
themselves.
The whole world's sustained because of
this
shabas and himself doesn't need anything
but this
was enough for him. It wasn't the he was
just being he really didn't need it.
Okay.
Let's say you have these people who are
not and they and it was witnessed that
they did. So then because we have to
assume it was a good now that it was
watched by other people.
Why shouldn't one person be able to be
okay for a
so could be because normal
is for over here since it's not for
you need to have two of them because
it's going to be
continues the mission of let's say
by themselves then we're allowed to
assume it was not a good and therefore
you're putter from
while people are watching
now we have
because we have to assume it was a good
mayor
or mayor's
is going to be so now we have to know
what the difference is why the shoulder
why can't we just assume that it was not
a good
everybody even if he did in such a
situation
you're not going to get malus because if
it was a good and therefore it's a shift
you're going to be forb the night now
according to
a very obvious question in the first
they didn't argue with and since it
might be there'll still be for so why
are they going to answer by the and for
the
counter pressure if you say that you'll
have a by this
and people might come to eat from it so
there's a potential takola
there's a potential Since
the said you shouldn't the offspring of
such an animal because of
now
we're not worried because
people say he didn't need the meat. So
they're not going to say that because of
the
will beher to eat from. Well, frankly,
maybe people are going to say that the
only reason he needed the dam was to
clean out his backyard, but not because
he has to do the mitzvah of the
what are you going to say in a case
where there was no because he'sing in a
garbage dump. Okay, but remember what
are you going to say when he goes to BZ
and asks am I to do because says I'm
going to think that it was a and people
might come to eat such a meat and
because of that said you should not do
the because of the case of mole
I can also t the same thing
let's say you're coming to ask
am I to refrain from shing that
offspring or not so the finally says
really the raon argue even in the ratio
mayor
the only way to rem to finish out his me
and then they said
that they are going to be
so mayor says
does not have
and argue with both that you're both
and
now I get that because it's a suffix
mayor you got to give me the reason why
mayors make them
mayor holds that a person's going to be
for eating
we can go with say that person is based
on this and therefore if you're going to
be
you're not going to be
now my time explain to me
since according to mayor of the
are going to be messed up so I got to
arrive
of Yeshua.
So, why do you need to come on to say
that according to
even if it was only a of the
we messed up
and you can use the to join together
with the
rub as I'll show you a precedent for
this idea from the third.
Let's see you see a kid next to a piece
of dough and there's dough in his hand's
mire and the says that the dough is tar
or the way Rashi learns is that the
child will be tar
look at this situation they say all
right this kid is definitely touching
and therefore it's going to be in my
time why is mayor willing to say to
isn't he also mask that the nature of
children is to put their hands in all
kinds of trash and touch the because
there's a that's not and
until we know otherwise we can
turn over and therefore
so according to mayor you can combine
the
with
and say it's that this kid is still so
why do we have to assume it's a
is going to mess me up the even if it's
a should be and for the
how can you sue
so mayor is going to hold you need to
have a arrived to create the vader
one time like
we assumed that this was
which was the latter one that we should
say is the authoritative version of what
held.
So all these were standing in the market
of right by the door of the you see the
door of the bish was in the public area
walked out of and saw the he said
didn't I tell you once already that when
we're learning the best you shouldn't be
standing outside
because maybe there's a person who needs
to hear the vi is going to be all
confused because people didn't have a
and therefore you needed to be in the
base medish to be able to pas for the
guy who's confused but you weren't there
so what are you doing outside. So was
all he went in
did not go into the bismet
and inside they were talking about which
was the later
you didn't let me ask the
maybe he heard from his father
and his father could have heard from
all of his learning
every 30 days. So my bottom line what
was the masa
mayor and
this that also like and didn't include
this
and from the fact that he didn't include
the other memor must be that that was
the latter one that that's the one that
rebi stuck with soam that is the bottom
line and in this story that the were
given mus for standing outside the base
medish there's a very important margolia
that says that if if someone is in shul
and there's a terra being given and you
know this already don't stand outside
the base medish and make your phone
calls in between while the RV is giving
his little dri and kashmir or whatever
it is because other people will see you
outside and not be of that which the RV
is saying it's an interesting margalam
right here on this story actually I
think I misspoke it's not it's a
100 in one location you only have to do
one for all of them
if you do in one
In this last case after the do the and
then do the on the and then do its
respective as well.
So on that
when you have the word talking about any
kind of
doesn't matter how many
like it says our
split them up the
but they said to the positive says
as if that was a response to now let's
clarify that what do the mean when they
said this
the is separating the and the which
sounds like when you only one of these
two categories either the or the
learns that from the it's meaning either
one of them or the
hold the is including multiple animals
and therefore one for all of them
if you and then you still only make one
even though you're covering the d of the
between the twoas and rashi over here's
lion is that is the braha on the you
don't have to make another brah on the
koi but it's mashma that the whole issue
here is a heik that you don't have to
make another braha on the let's stop
here because there's a lot to talk about
the brahas and I think we'll start
tomorrow's shar discussing this idea of
braha and this idea of heik by berkus
ham midspice