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All right, DF pay gimmel Wednesday's
daff and we were discussing sumis about
potentially getting more than one set of
malus for doing one misa a vera even
when it's not goofen we brought up
ribbuda from the mishnad about
githanosha that ribbuda says you're only
going to get one set of malus and the
gar was dying whether or not it's
because of suffic so the last thing we
learned about yesterday which brought up
that there's more than one version of
shittitauda that holds suffic isra and
now we're picking it up with the second
to bottom line on pay bas that there is
another version of that holds suffices
that there's an iss of nicer. Now, of
course, the whole time when you're
warning the guy, hey, don't leave this
over. Even if he leaves it over, but as
long as he eats that carbon pes before
morning, he won't be over the nicer.
Moving over to
a liking love that he can be that you're
not going to get
a liking love. But according to had it
not been for the fact that it is,
you would get malus. But you can even
say more basic. It's not a good that
he's giving him because it's suffic
from this Tana. All right. But the gar
is now going to try again that according
to sumas doing misaver with one single
msa or onera is going to be high for
each time because the bry says
if you eat two from two different of two
different animals you get two sets of
so that's the bryson but
if you're talking about two completely
different mices with two different
warning with two different sets of so
why would you only You get one set of
malcus. It's it's two completely
independent averis.
We must be talking about one msa and
onera. But yet still the tanakama holds
that you get two sets of malus. And who
is that who holds you're going to get
two sets of malus
here where it's not? And I should point
out that even though these are two
different animals, it's still not called
because they're not living animals. Or
maybe the shot is it's not separate a
because of the go the maram goes with
that kind of an idea the ra certainly
can't go like the
mustyah for that you're going to get
multiple sets of malus even though it's
not which the garra says is not a
because and what would be the myuda
going to leaz one of these ganoshas is
not a kazayas and holds malus for eating
this because only the other ganosha had
a kazayas but the tanakama holds since
you ate the whole gan
you're going to get malus even though
it's not a because you're eating the
whole barrier of this. So it's as the
Bryce says
you're still
it has regular
that you always need a
four times a year.
Whenever you sell an animal to somebody,
you got to tell them I already sold the
mother animal earlier today or I sold
the child animal today. Because these
four times a year, there's a lot of
purchasing of meat. And therefore, we
have to be.
So, it's incumbent upon the to let the
know that the mother or offspring animal
was sold. And the aspect of this is that
if you find out later and you weren't
told, you get your money back. It's a
one of these four times a year of
meaning
because it's says there was a lot of
meat being bought the
because you got to eat it. So people
would buy a lot of anus of even though
it still has a because we're supposed to
have the confidence that we're going to
be
because there's a mitzvah to eat on
when is the to tell the he already sold
the animal
as long as there's no time which Rashi
understands that to mean it's the same
day
but if there is a day in between
it's not my problem if the mother and
offspring were actually on the same day
at that point
because
even if the mother and offspring animals
were sold on different days, you still
should tell the because we know that
they're going to want to both animals
for the same day meaning the sudas and
the and therefore there is a
responsibility on the m to inform them.
The Kashuk over here has a Shila about
shades, which could really go anywhere,
but just because it says Kali here, so I
guess he picks it over here. It's just
such an entertaining Shila about a shik
date that didn't work. And the reason it
didn't work is cuz the guy was way too
fat and the girl couldn't be soim. She
liked everything else about him, but she
couldn't handle the fact that he was so
overweight. A year later, the father of
this girl bumps into the bucker and he
looks great. He got on Empic. He lost
all the weight. So the father tells this
girl, they go out and they get engaged.
Well, now the shad shows up and says,
"Hey, I was the one who read this shik.
you owe me shades guilt and the father
says well that's very nice but that was
a different guy that guy was 150 lbs
heavier and now it's
so I don't owe you the anymore so is to
say he's in the but just kind of a fun
question okay continues the
on these four different times a year
we force the
even if he doesn't want a sheh why
wouldn't he want a sheh well maybe it's
not financially could die for him
because he was paid to do a but he
doesn't have enough business that day to
go through the whole process. But since
it's those different four days where
people need a lot of flesh, we will
force the to do his job.
Even if the only paid a diner's worth of
this thousand diner,
we're going to force the to do it.
Therefore, if it dies before getting and
there is a here
has to assume the loss because he gave
that dinner and he does not get his
money back.
the would refund the money because the
now can no longer provide the gash in a
flesh. So he has to give back the money.
We learned in the
did not let the know that he sold that
parent or offspring animal that day
the says the can and go ahead and not
worry that maybe there's a problem. We
don't haveasher here. So in other words
to ask he could just go on his merry way
and do his own. The mission says
why is it like this animal to the
meaning the aim animal to the and the
bath animal to the just say one to one
and one to the other. Why are we picking
which one of the animals to which one of
the sides of the for the
house spends more than the kala's house.
So therefore it's more likely that the
bought the bigger of the different
animals. And clearly today the mini is
switched because the kala's family now
pays for the catering bill. The family
pays for flap. But it wasn't that way.
Then the mission says that we forced the
to even if you only had a small amount
of money paid
but there was no and we're making it
sound like the will be forced to first
of all why is the and why is the going
to sustain the loss if the animal drops
dead there was no so no actually
happened
there was and therefore that's why each
one has their respective
responsibilities ities.
But if you're telling me we're talking
about where the actually did and
therefore owns that little part of the
animal. So when the animal dies the
should to take on the
you're right. There was never a mash
but there was a meaning the gave the
animal to somebody else and told him to
do a mash on behalf of that. So
and that's why it'll work and therefore
the can force the and if the animal
drops dead the one with the
other terret
that is and now we explain
really
just paying is going to be a
that's because
if I go ahead and I pay for it, but I
never took possession of it and now
there's a fire in the house is not going
to be incentivized to want to save the
stuff. So because of that
say that is like these are even without
the will say is kind rely on the last
mission of the par
the one day that we say that you can't
check it and its child on the same day
follows night like all Jewish calendar
days and the here is that it's not like
which is
It's interesting whenever we talk about
it's always going to be an adus on and
this actually could have been part of
the byel when made that wasn't
there's an aspect of my tab
the bry says zim
The whole is written in the par of
that we have
turning over
tone cruise on a certain day that
requires an announcement.
That's when you make the announcement
days that we've already sold either the
mother or its offspring and therefore
that's a different draw from the and
with that
and now we get to start as we learn
through Adam we should keep in mind
whether or not is a he of going to be
one of the big shilas it's going to be
neg to the onam also the reason for
might be or mida by covering the dam
we're insuring ing that we're not going
to eat the dam that's the rash bam and
the clayer talk about that which is
negle
about whether or not there is a
and lists many of them this would be one
of them the many other examples he gives
over there okay let's get started with
the
inside
there is no
and when we say we're not talking about
because there are
at all for it's only going to be the
generally speaking to both and
as opposed to that we'll learn about
that's
and it is to the suffic animal and it
might be
because there might be other problems
having to do with the dirt on
my why is there
because of
you got to put the dirt below and above
it doesn't say cover it with dirt in the
dirt
but here by the you wouldn't be able to
put it underneath the dam because where
you going to put it remember you're on a
misbehav
there so it's like considered like it's
the ground and it's part of the misb
By being the dirt, you're actually
adding to the structure of the size of
the
Hashem told exactly how big the have to
be and you can't make any changes at
all. So, and if you're not the dirt on
the now, it's just dirt there and then
you won't be doing the properly on the
so based on putting the dirt below
above. Maybe that's why there won't be
any done by which says no but still you
still put dirt on top and therefore
therefore you should still do the by
doing what you can
let's say first and then on top of that
I put a
since that is already covered by the but
where there is now exposed
even though there's no offer underneath
so even though You can't put the offer
underneath on the back because you put
the offer on top. And for the no can do
but ain't
so since it's not royil I can't put the
dirt underneath the dam of the the dam
of the on the misbeak. There won't be
any den of kisu at all. All right, we're
still in the middle of the shakaria but
we're going to stop here and pick it up
with villagaras
next time. I do hope to make sure to
post tishabove daff beforehand and I'll
try not to do it too close to tishabove
as I know you're not supposed to learn
after tishov. So we'll try our best.