Chullin Daf 67

All right. Samak Zion as today we get to finish perutus. First we got to finish up the discussion that we started yesterday about the shared. We're picking up on vid bay. Let's roll it back to 14 lines from the bottom of the um just to started again. We were talking about this of theim that are in the kim or to eatle. Even if they don't have the snapper and casces you're allowed to eat them. I am a let me say fakar that when it comes to the if it has the snapper and cases you're allowed to eat them but maybe we should learn that even if it has the simash but if you find it in kum you're not allowed to eat it to which the says no that can't be that's coming anything that doesn't have the fins and scales and we're talking over there because if it's in those natural kinds of bodies of order that's when it'll be but it's mashma. So the terra is clearly telling you that you don't have that same when it's maybe I should darian it this way but is which we would say initim are smaller versions of the like ponds and smaller groupings of water. Maybe that's where we don't apply it and therefore if it doesn't have snapper and casces in the that's when they'll be mut and certainly the ones that are in the so why does the bryson need to have the for the for the since we have two different and it goes back we look at this well frankly these two are next to each other they're before the prat so it doesn't have the same rules of cl which is supposed to be bookending your prorava moving over to you can actually take the which is after the two and stick it in between and you learn it as a regular and now we explain is it's more specific again by repeating that and therefore it's just like we're talking about water that comes out of some sort of a natural source from like a wellspring all bodies of water that come from this kind of natural source. But my Robbie, what was the ribboy that we're including in the requirement of having the snapper and cascus? That's going to be that those smaller kinds of bodies of water like these ponds are going to asser the are created within those things. What was the mute from the requirement of having the snapper that'll be that you don't even need to have the if the are coming about in these things maybe I can learn differently just like by the clar that we're talking about water that's on the ground maybe that should be the similarity and what does the ter come to be mar in the requirement of having sniper you have to have them and what's the ter that only water that's completely disconnected from the ground and therefore the are in are going to be m but those that are found in the which are still connected to the ground maybe that's closer to the and therefore they should be cuz the bryce had said that coming to be m these to eat even though they don't have the sim of sniper kases so you wouldn't need the of the if you're telling me that the claw claws being may kale from the requirements of sniper and kases and now we're going to have tony de bishmo which is going to be very similar but a very vari on how to make the actual draw. It says it twice. the two clum ofay one after the other and a clal since this is two it's not considered a and a reba so this is gonna be a similar kind of a mahal but just not calling it rather calling it rebu is so a second time is and reeba mute reeba reeba we're being marba everything unless it's not to that which was the miet so my what was the rei that was going to require snapper and kasis that'll be and my mi It'll be affecting why can't I say the other way around only but therefore the come about in kale should be mut and the ones that are in the ground like the nois of having the requirement of the maybe the are in the to have the simus whereas are going to be and for the mat IA Bryce says my contained just like the water in a which are they're not contained in one place even though they're accumulated in one place on the ground but they're not exclusively like that and therefore they're more dull and that is that for Bishmo. All right, now we're going to get back to that Bryson from Tyrus Kynim which said befish that are motor both sum and mafurish and we had understood that this is talking about both of the can be learned from the and the ter is limiting the iser of the only to certain bodies of water. So now we got to define which ones are which says you're allowed to eat that which has the snapper and cascuses which is of course you can't eat the ones that don't have them in the that's going to be the and therefore it's anything else and the in the says you're not allowed to eat those that don't have the simash that's going to be the that's going to be the suma one ther the other sheet that holds a lyish the love that the terra says you're not allowed to eat which doesn't have the fins and scales That's going to be a but the which says you're allowed to eat that which does have the seam on him that you cannot eat the other ones. That's going to be the sum. Now my time if Irish if you hold the is the clear one he would tell you that drew that's the that you see the most that the appear in the kale are going to be motor and by if you hold it the says you're not allowed to eat that which does not have the snap in that's going to be moreish [laughter] it's because the has the is telling you the other that has the it's those kinds of that are in kum Because if you'd only told me that you only had the I might have thought those if they have snapper you're allowed to eat it but even if they had the money you might not allowed to eat it that's what I would have thought so from the fact that we have the it'll be from that restriction meaning I'll tell you the in the be even without the sniper okay a related they used to strain out the beer and the way to do that was to take these wood chips which would catch all the schmutz and you pour the beer through it. Problem is we're afraid of insects and creepy crawly things coming out of those wood chips now into your beer. So don't do that at night when you can't see cuz maybe a shar will crawl out of the wood chip and now go into the beer and it'll go into the cup and the person won't even know because now the has emerged and it's been independent and now when it goes into the kali it's going to be even if it's not strained it should be user to drink the beer because of maybe the worm went out of the beer got stuck in the kali and went back into the beer and therefore now the little sherets is going to be user because it's been exposed out and then went back into the kaly and for the garamar ravis klemon it's on that interior wall of the kali it's part of the raves we've had this expression beforehand where that's the natural habitat of this sherets and therefore it won't have the isser and the tyra of sherets a sheritar but by the case of straining out the beard then it's on the outside of the kali even if it's on the rim of the kayali and therefore it's considered a sheritz that came out of the ground and therefore is not perfect how do you know you can mix shahil between the inside of the kaly and on a different surface because the learned in the BC yesterday that you can actually bend down and drink from these things and not be worried you don't have to stop from doing it even though you might be actually drinking these any kind of even though it has no snapper you're allowed to consume it and that's coming from the now how is the BC allowed to be m these things maybe these were independents that then went into the water since this is its natural habitat there's not going to be I'll give you a price that bolsters this idea you're not allowed to eat these things the hasher is coming to be marva even though that were filtered out of the wine making them the synonym that they were actually strained out of the wine and shar must be that even though it's mut to eat these that germinate in the liquid but once they get separated from that liquid into any solid surface outside of the kay they're going to become aer Omar kishasia you might remember this from exactly 20 blot ago if you have a cucumber that becomes wormy turning over to bay ebea while it's still attached to the ground because we said even though that cucumber is technically outside the ground's mouth it's connected to the ground it's going to have the den like the sher never came out of the ground so lay let's bring a riot because that is that goes on the ground this is those disease and those nats that are found in the adashim and the lentils and also the bugs that you find inside these which could be arraabis the chickpeas rice and the worms that you find in the dates and figs all these things are in because they actually come out of the pears themselves and they never were on the ground that's the understanding of the mitzas that they spontaneously generated inside of these fruits and another says and that is coming from all these these shrutzum that are in the stems. It's coming from marb about all these worms that are in the actual stems of the olives and the grapes that those are going to be user even though they were never sherits on the ground. How do you reconcile the two bryes because my can't you assume both bryes are talking about where they spontaneously generated inside of the fruit themselves the Bryce that says it's going to be is talking about where the fruit is still attached to the ground and the B that says it's mut those are talking about where the fruit is no longer attached to the ground to the tree and therefore that's how of the bry and therefore the bryce that says that the are going to be user is going to be a that the are inside these kishas are going to be user which the says no it's not true because both bry are talking about where the fruit is still connected to the ground vasha. You know why there's no steer in the bryes? Because hra where are you saying it's going to be motor to eat theim? It's talking about when they're inside the fruit that the schwatzum developed inside the fruit. So they never emerged. Elona goofa. Maybe those are actually in the tree. And even when the brace says they're in the stems of these olives and the grapes, it doesn't mean they're in the fruit themselves, but they're attached to the tree and because the stems are extension of that tree. Andami it's actually that way because so why are we specifically talking about stems? because no because the price that says that the schwatz are going to be user are talking about the ones that developed inside the trees and not in the fruits and therefore it's not a riot and now a bunch of shilus let's say the worm that came out of this fruit came out of the fruit and died immediately once it came out is that going to be considered like a shar or not or let's say part of the worm came out what happens if it came out into the open air but never got to the ground what's going to be the is all going to be tuashiagara let's say the sher that came about inside of this tomorrow inside the date got to the top of the date or legag guaram or let's say it's moved up inside the date to the top of the pit or mitarimo let's say it never came out to the avier island but it went from one date to another date and all these things are going to be tumer of shishious bidi kane aeri these worms that are inside of parts of the animal they're also going to be oseru they didn't start off inside the animal but rather they came into the animal they really came from outside the animal we should find it inside the intestines inside the in or out of the animal we should find These kinds of worms if you're telling me that they didn't come from inside but rather came from the outside. So some say cooki are shu they're mut because they only spontaneously generated inside the animal never crawled on the ground. So if they actually would have come from outside we would have figured it out because we would have found it inside of the digestive area of the animal meaning it would have made its way in or made its way out. But since you don't see that must be that much was never shared all arts. Because they come from the outside and they go through the animals nostrils when they're sleeping. So we're not going to find them in the digestive tract. These worms if you find in the meat they're going to be er but if you find in fish they'll be muta said to his mother when she would find these kinds of toy inside the fish. You should grind up the fish in your basamatic 1000 and don't let me see it because it's mus I don't want to see these kinds of worms and I'll eat my gapilta fish when it's all ground up. So it's but he just doesn't want to see it. is any different from the price that says shakets coming to those kinds of that are also in there also be finding in the fish you have a head and therefore the tassan that grow inside of the animal from the fact that can't be m those kinds of creatures they stay in their original mat of Iser mystery Right? You don't have to do a forgive. You only have to gather them. They don't require. So when they are formed, they're never being independently. They form in the fish and therefore they never require. They never become anything that creeps on its on its belly. You're not allowed to eat. What's that coming from? Even an earthworm that looks like an earthworm. If it walks on four legs, that's going to talk about a scorpion. That's also eat. That's talking about like a beetle or any of those kinds of insects that are user. That's going to be a centipede. Anything that even is resembling something that resembles it. Even if it's a little step removed, it'll still be user. And we get to end with one little Tanya the Bryce Cesar Damascus Leosen. The Leviosen is a dog to a kosher fish. is so the leviosen has both fins and scales. It's a kosher fish. The marshall wants to know why do I need a puss to show me that is kosher. They're going to feed it to that sadikim. You think hashem is going to feed the sadikim and not kosher fish. The different approaches perhaps maybe it will become kosher. Perhaps it's maybe a zer versus nika and perhaps the of that love is not to be taken literally at all. You can listen to Ra Gross that discusses these different ideas. But either way, we pulled it off folks. We finish the peric and mit Tuesday we get to start the fourth per together of beha makasha leade.