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Okay,
this is Friday's DA and today is egg day
as we pick it up five lines from the
bottom of
the Bryce says
you can buy eggs from everywhere and
what would be the concern.
So you don't have to be worried that
these are traifa
would actually be a dinder bonan but
eggs from a trafa are actually medisa
fractura. How are you allowed to buy
these eggs? The dilm tummy ninu. Maybe
these are eggs from a not kusher a bird.
Maybe the species not kusher. Now Tyus
over here asks an important question
that there are more species of kusher
birds. So why don't go arrive that the
egg that you want to buy from the guy is
coming from one of the kusher species.
And here you have a bunch of different
important answers of the rishinim that
speak to some of the idea of hulkoser
because tyus's answer is yeah you may
have more species of kasher birds but
numerically there's more to birds which
speaks to the importance of
classification of how you look at arrive
the specy versus the actual amount the
ramban over here when he asks the kasha
suggests that really we would go buster
arrive but we can't because you're smite
the mute of nellis and tfice to that
same mut of the tus species of birds so
you have two different mutim and two
mutim will win out over the ra and the
rajba brings this ramban and says I
don't understand what the ramban's
talking about who says that two mutim
are going to be stronger than the ra the
ra should attack each mute separately
also it's not really two mutim it's
closer to a sixva style thing and the
lion doesn't match the raja argues with
this raban but it comes out an important
between the rabban and the rajba whether
or not two mutim are stronger than a ra
the mitzvah about being mal a father
actually uses this mle is in that
context because there's two mutim that
someone who hits his father should be
able to argue that he shouldn't get
number one it may not be his father okay
well says
but there's a second mi that says that
the father's a tra and therefore when
the kid hit him he was hitting a traa
and wants to make a tully in this is
rajan but the ra actually suggests
another terret to tyus's kasha that
really maybe we would go bus a if
there's a but the is from the garian
that it's
means even if there is no present arrive
in the current local you always can buy
these eggs. So the way the rhyme looks
at it is you do acknowledge that really
you could go buser arrive and we do go
buser arrive in general to be mirror
eggs today jumping ahead if you look at
the there's an important
if you look at the last middle line of
tis
the fact that today we buy eggs from
even though the aren't being made to us
directly what kind of bird it came from
which is what the gumar is going to be
talking about coming up and we just buy
eggs from the supermarket without
thinking about it is because we go buser
arrive that the eggs that are matsu
bayenu are from birds that are kusher
and that's how it's brought in sharim
and pov based on that tyus but in the
meantime let's go back to argamara here
argamur had just said this bry that you
can buy eggs from gim everywhere and you
don't have to be worried about nail and
trafus fact the gamarra maybe it's
coming from a nasher bird now we're up
to omrau
life plar we're talking where the guy
said they came from such a bird and that
bird we know to be kosher so we're
actually believing the guy even though
we typically don't attribute to a guy
but since this is a demonstrable fact so
luier and therefore The guy would be
afraid to lie and therefore the guy will
have nonus in such a case.
Why can't the guy just simply say
they're from a kasher bird? Why does the
guy have to say what kind of kasher bird
it is? It's very clear says they have to
be plain to which the answers.
If we wouldn't make the guy say what
kind of bird it is, then he can kind of
lie and get out of it. So we want him to
be as specific as he can and say what
kind of bird it came from. So therefore
it's more of a miluier and he'll be more
na why do I need the guy to say any of
this bim check the sim to see if the
eggs are kosher because the says bim
there are simum with eggs just like
there with fish wait hold on what are
you talking about
snapper
you got fins and scales on fish there's
no fins and scales on eggs no what the
means is moving over to ubim just like
the signs of kasher birds so two are the
signs of the fish eggs. And now let's
break that down. Bates
any egg that is both circular and round
like a ballad.
One is more round and the other one has
more of a tapered pointy edge like the
way our eggs are shaped. That's a
simmon. That's a kosher egg.
And if either would be round or either
would be pointy, then it would be
if the white is on the outside, the yolk
is on the inside, then it'll be
if the yolk is on the outside and the
white is on the inside, then it'll be
it's all mixed together.
So lisa, back to our kasha, why do you
have to have the g say which kind of a
specy of kusher bird it came from? Check
the eggs yourself. We have rules for how
to check eggs to see if they're kosher.
And for the
eggs were already cut up. So you can't
look at the shape of the shell. You
won't be able to see if it was pointy or
rounded. Well, in fact,
you can take a look at how the white and
the yolk work out because that was also
part of the sim for the garam. But true
face, the eggs were already scrambled.
So you can no longer see where's the
yolk, where's the white fractur, you're
talking about the eggs were already
mixed up and scrambled.
Are you allowed to buy scrambled eggs
from Gim? I'm saying scrambled, but I
just mean that the raw egg is mixed up.
ivotany.
You're not allowed to sell a baser to a
guy for unless it was already mixed up.
And why is this? Because
you can't sell a whole egg to a guy lest
he turns around and sells it to a yid.
But if the egg is all mixed up, you can
sell it to a guy because no yid would
buy it from him
for therefore let him buy mixed up eggs
that have been mixed up in a car. So if
you tell me mixed up eggs is always
going to be user. When avo telling us
that you're buying eggs from a guy, you
must be talking about non-mixed eggs. So
again, why does the guy have to tell us
what kind of specy of bird they came
from? Why can't you just look to see how
the yolk and the white of the egg looks
to determine if it's kosher? Elizer
sima.
You're right. There are sim, but that
wouldn't give you a diceet. That's only
so we need to have the adus of the guy
that because he'd be afraid to lie is
going to be stronger than the simum that
you will check with. and continues
if you wouldn't say that
back two when we said that there are
eight different cases of birds that were
about whether they're kosher why are we
so misupic
check out the eggs of those eight
species and see what their shape is
so it wouldn't give you a hat and
therefore they remain in suffic
if you're telling me that the why is
even telling them to be in the first
If both ends are either rounded or
pointy,
those will all be ras that this egg is
for sure not kosher. And even if the
would say they are kosher
being
if one end of the egg is going to be
pointy and one end is rounded
and in addition tag teaming that simmon
with the guy telling you that they are
from this particular kosher bird then
now you can rely on him but if the guy
says that the eggs are coming from a
kosher bird but he doesn't say which
kind of kosher bird in that latisma.
You're not allowed to rely on the guy
the ea the dummy leena. who have some
not kusher eggs specifically the one
from that crow that sometimes will have
the dummy lea can have kusher looking
eggs but of course they're not kosher
the terrace has befires that an ira is
going to be not kusher getting back to
that
if the yolk and the white are mixed
together
that's for sure coming from a sheretimma
if the egg had a formed embryo inside
that egg and the shell of the egg was
already broken.
It will have the tumas sherets that can
give off tuma when it is the size of a
kadosha of that lentil. We're
specifically talking about where the
eggshell has a hole in it because
otherwise the dead sherets inside is not
shak to touch and even if that hole is
itty bitty small still it can convey to
and therefore it's important for us to
know that it has a mask.
Who says it's a sher does not have the
of a and it would still have the same
physical properties.
If the egg had this beginning of a
developing embryo inside of it and a
person would eat that
he's going to get malcus for eating a
sherates rather than just I'm eating a
sheritt from a bird. That's the
important reason why we need to know
about the definition of the sherets to
get the malcus. And as Rashi says here,
as he says many other places in Shas,
when a person gets malus, the adim have
to not only just tell him that he's
going to be doing Allah, but they have
to tell him what PK they're getting the
for the lammed bay bay brings this rashi
as well as other places where this is
very significant that you have to always
say the pusk when you get the malus for
the if you're telling me that we're
talking about the isser of eating this
kind of rickma.
This is not an issue about a not kusher
kind of bird. I feel the same for a tar
bird as the Bryce says
turning over
a little chick from a kusher bird but
it's not yet alive enough that it opened
its eyes. It has a dinner of a sher. So
if that's where our Bryce is handling
that is of embionic eggs, you don't have
to talk to me about Sher's eggs which
the says the of
that's only that's not a real iss of
sherk
but you're allowed to eat those kinds of
chicks but not kusher birds or that will
be so therefore that's why our bryson
needs to give us the rules to be between
the eggs of those of birds the says bim
and the Rashi learns over here is that
there's no ble if you're cooking these
eggs. So whatever kind of comes out of
one egg when it's being cooked you don't
have to worry about going into your
other kusher eggs
an egg that's not fertilized. So
someone who's a nepheafa that's kind of
the opposite of the someone who can hack
doing something potentially gross can
eat them because there might be what
looks like blood in this kind of an egg
but since it was murice there are no
embryos inside and therefore it's
technically kosher. So if you see
actually a blood spot in such an egg,
get rid of the blood part and you can
eat the rest of it. But
you're only allowed to eat that egg if
the blood spot was found in the kesher.
The kesher is that connection point
where the zera from the zer would attach
itself to the egg and you'd have the
beginning of that embryo. But inami if
the blood spot was found somewhere else
then the whole egg is going to be not
kosher. We assume the embryo had reached
a more advanced stage and it was already
throughout the egg.
the egg's only if that blood spot was
found in the white of the egg.
But if that blood spot's found on the
yolk of the egg, then the whole egg is
going to be because
that problem is understood to have
permeated the entire egg.
We learned in a bry the other way around
that if the blood spot was on the yolk,
then the rest of the egg will be mut.
But if the blood spot was found in the
white, then the whole egg will be ulcer.
And it was a who corrected it to learn
it this way, which is the way we have
it. And this is where we're going to
stop now. And we'll pick it up with
Omariskia for Shabasdaf.