Chullin Daf 56

All right, Daffh Nunv. This is Thursday's DAFF and we're picking up from the Mishna. We had two Mishna about behemoths and now today is bird day. The aloo trace b the following are going to be the traus when it comes to birds. This is going to follow the same kind of format where later today we'll have on the duffel cherus bif. But in the meantime now we're going to list all the different traus by birds not to be repetitious and Rashi points out all the things that we're going to list are the ones that have a certain uniqueness by birds and there's a reason why we need to list them here. If there's a hole in the that's the esophagus where the trachea is cut. Even though I just finished telling you that all of the things listed in this Mishna are unique to Rash explains that there's a about thearas and the is that let's say a a weasel would bite the bird on its head is in a place that would make it into a traa which basically means the area where its brain is or nikova cork or the corkun which is the gizzard kind of like a location of food digestion if that has a hole or nikvuhadaken that's the intestines if they have a hole the bird will absolutely be a Let's say it falls into the fire then and the inside of the chicken got burned. So if they turn which will touch his green then the bird will be afra or not this is unique to birds or if this kind of rule will also be na to other animals. You can hear that if you put a cow into the fire there's a lot more protecting the bayim and they may have different simon to know whether or not they were nitrifa and therefore this test of yor and odum might only be by our fried chicken. Next case, Darisel. Let's say the bird gets smashed against the wall or an animal trampled its and it now thrashes about and it can stay alive for 24 hours. Then it'll be okay. All three of them said that this kind of bird that was bit by a weasel. We have to see whether or not it became a traa. And what do you do? You stick your finger in the bird's mouth and check it out to see whether or not it has a hole in the brain by pushing up against the pallet of the bird's mouth. If brain goop squishes out of the head of the bird, well, clearly the brain membrane has been now punctured by this kula and therefore it's a traa bird. But if the bird's gray matter does not come out of its head, then clearly the brain membrane is intact and therefore it's going to be cauter. Okay, but karma that's fine if you learn like the cheita that an animal will not be a traa because of a brain injury until the lower membrane that's the karma was also punctured and made into a hole that you have to have a hole all the way through. So therefore, squishing brains out of the holes is only going to be if there's a hole all the way through. That all you need is some of this membrane, meaning the upper membrane will make it into a traa even if the lower one's not. Then how is there a raya just cuz you haven't squashed brains out of the holes? If you're telling me that the upper one has a hole and the lower one does not have a hole, it's a thinner membrane and therefore by squishing your finger inside the mouth of this bird, it will squish the brains through that tat and you will see brains squish out the if it gets bitten by a we don't do this kind of test because the teeth of the weasel are very thin. So there's teeny little holes. So you're not going to see much brains squirting out of these holes. Well, what's the difference of the fact that teeth are thin? So, they're small holes, but the brains are going to come out the small holes. And the teeth are not straight. They're thin and they're curved. The hole in the skull that the kula made is not going to align with the hole in the membrane because of these aumis. And therefore, brains won't find their way out. You won't be able to get an effective test. When zeri went up from toard, which the rash asks, isn't in? And the rash wants to suggest that rash is going that bubble here is not referring to the country but referring to a specific city called that is whether or not that's true there's a over here that was bothered by the he went up usually we go up to what's the over here when those in bubble said was and was from and he had said that you can't check out the kash based on squeezing this bird to find out if it was bitten by a but we do check out the bite of the m but not with a nail, not with a tool, not with a needle because you could scrape the nail along the membrane to see if there's an existing hole there. But you could even do it with a one would do it with their hand by pushing their finger up against the pallet and one would do it with a needle. And now the gar is a very uncommon way that we're going to speak out their shittas as if it's a conversation. The one who checks with his hand would say to the one who checks with the needle shut off the because you're going to accidentally make the animal now into a needle. It's more important to do the good kind of because we shouldn't feed people trus. So we're weighing these different conflicting concepts and that's the frankly they weren't ne just a detail. You can't call it an avail. Okay, what he meant to say was you can't feed the yidden traphus and the explanation is because maybe there was a hole in the membrane but but the brains are not squishing out the holes because of the of the shinim of the and therefore there's a rationale not to use the test of the bird brains bursting because of the bite of the beast which incidentally is a children's book I'm working on which I'm thinking to entitle birds by bursting the bird brains because of beast bites soon to be published by art scroll. Okay, let's bring a riot that you would do the by hand because the B says you do it with your hands and not with a nail. And then the Bryce finishes and says that if the skull is broken the birds are even if the is not holy at all. But anyway, what do you see from the first line of the brace that according to behuda you should check with your hand and not with a time we talking to fakasha the brace alain has a theory in it you said you do with your handma vice we do do aik button then the brace turns around and says clearly you can't be because once you have a hole in the skull the bird's going to be a trait whether or not the crim is going to be punctured so the two parts of the bryce are one to the other. To which the gumar answers, we're talking about a marine fowl. Apparently, these water birds do not have brain membranes. Of course, it has. It's a very fragile membrane. And therefore, if there's a hole in the skull, it's for sure going to be a traer right away because we're going to assume that the is also damaged. You told us that would do aika to this kind of a bird with his hand. And also said that Rav would also like this. But what did Ley tell us? A Bryson that says Trafan that the Trafus that are listed have their counterparts. The list that goes connected with birds. Yes. In addition is going to be the bird that if the skull is broken, even if the brain is not Nikv that it's going to be a tood. That means you're not being baited to see if this is going to be because it won't matter as long as doing a vector of it's the same idea. There is no by no the kind of that's in these is very soft and therefore you're not going to do aik. And now story time. There was a chicken that was in Raana's home. He sent it to Raas for Absacavo and it was a case where the skull was broken but was not holy and said it's so was surprised he says to the Bryce says yes because which sounds like we don't care if there's no in anyway going to be so why did you say it's kosher like same thing. It's very soft and it will always break. You know how he checked out the membrane? He would hold it up to the light to see if there was any sunlight that would come through it. Meaning he would take out the brains and see if it holds water turning over with a piece of wheat straw. They would scrape along the membrane to see if it would snag. Our geese have a like these and therefore they're going to have the same brain injuries. Okay. The next part of the said if it falls into the fire and the internal organs get burned if they turn they are going to be trau. When we talk about the shear of how big a hole has to be in these trafus which is au that's going to be the same shear for how much green to is going to happen as a result of the fire. near let's say the liver also had this greenness but it was near the so why can't that green part of the covid of the liver be like gar from if it was gone in gansen if you just remove that discolored portion the would be kosher so just imagine as if it's gone so since the liver turned green in that area near the bay the neck So the really the injuries about he had a chicken and apparently it was also burned in the fire and he sent it to the green but still said it was kosher. How can you say it's kosher? Because that's only about those parts, the corkin and the heart and the liver because they're normally red. So if they turn green, that's when it's going to be a tra. But the are usually yuric anyway and therefore it's going to be kosher and what kind of internal organs do we say that if they turn green it's going to be a tr because they're normally red. He had a hen that got burned in the fire. The insides are red. The tarfa and said it was traif. If it's normally red and it turns green, if it's normally green and turns red, that's when it's going to be a trader because they're red anyway. Things that were green that turn red are not going to be kosher. If red kishkas turned green as a result of the fire and then you boil them where they turn red again, they will be because if you can cook it and it gets back to being red, it wasn't really green. It was only because it absorbed the smoke, not because it was actually damaged in the fire. We could say the same thing in a different case which will give us a different thatu if the red kishkus didn't turn green when it fell into a fire and then it turns green then traa because my time of iglo their their busha is now revealed really the fire did turn it green but it was the smoke that hid that and the cooking removed the smoke and now we see since you can remove the smoky effect by boiling it don't eat it until it's boiled but that's not the we're not going to start being for things that were not to be that way. And since there's no latest suffix since right now it has a kosher color, you don't need to do it anymore. The last part of the mission had said if the bird is thrown against the wall, as long as it's leaves for mlays, it's going to be kosher. Even though it survived for 24 hours, it still might be internal injuries that you need to be for. Zishna, the following are going to be kusher in birds. If the trachea had a hole or it was split lengthwise or the weasel taka took a bite out of the head of this bird in a moa like where it's not opposite the brain or the zeic is the crop. It's another part of the digestive area even if it was removed or the intestines came out but they there was no hole in them or if its wings were broken or ragl if its legs were broken or if it feathers were plucked. In all these cases it will be kosher but are the down feathers the itty bitty little feathers that go up against the skin of the bird. It's very similar to gluda which was the animal that was flayed from its skin that we talked about yesterday in the brace. It says they went to go make it into an ibriarch and they spent shabas in the city of that was the name of the city not their reaction and they made up sacas this uterus of an animal like rebies the crop of a bird. So that was the story. But now we have a question where to put the comma and were they making two separate one about the it's going to be a ta and one about the like rebby that it's going to be kosher. Maybe the bry means it was one. They made the about the just like rebi said about the zeicbi like but they themselves don't really seem to hold like rebi and them is tumer lady. The gagos is the roof of the crop. It's a part of this digestive process that area it's gonna have a of the which is going to have even a mash will make it into a tract. How much of that area is called the gaggo effect and therefore it's kind of the whatever is leaning towards it whatever somehow gets shlept along on that angle whatever tapers towards the said if the intestines come out but they don't have holes in them the bird will still be cauter it's only where you didn't turn them inside out and put them back in the bird but but if you invert them and you stick it back upside down into the bird then because the orientation actually matters matters which is made these different bases that have to kind of sit in a certain orientation. If they would be inverted, a person would not be able to live that he made you and he established you like a city that has everything. It's completely self-sufficient. Hashem gave us everything we need to be completely self-sufficient in the city. And we shall stop here and pick it up from the who are mu for Friday's deaf.