Chullin Daf 18

All right, daf yomi Monday's daf. Let's pick it up four lines from the bottom of your design and base. I'm already human been lucky show me three kinds of that you need to know about that we're going to see all have a uniform Allah about them and they are the at the beginning of the bone of a carbon which you're not allowed to make any breaks in the bones begin with and which would make it into a moment and it must move because which is sounds very similar to the beginning of the but they'll be differences regarding because some animals are in the cave ice and it's kind of which is obviously a guess but I don't know what I can which we've been talking about and according to him and I will only talk about so we're not going to talk about the beginning of but anyway the point is the cooling all these things are awesome beginning of the size of that human is the size of the beginning of that would the because we know that has to be made out of stones that are whole because any evidence in the even as a small it will become moving over to the beginning of how much is going to ruin one of the stones for the because they should about to burn that catches your fingernail when you rub your fingernail over it so it's all the same as it says well how in the world did they make them as bad you have to break up the rocks and every rock's going to have these and suggest maybe it was done with the that kind of worm or maybe it was made of small rocks the brings that maybe they went to some of the the kind of ground that was never ever touched and that's where they found the rocks or at the bottom of the maze I think the braces says what is the size of the beginning of that would puzzle the beginning of the human because I can I think I can but both of them are certainly bigger than the little notch that you would feel if you're rubbing your fingernail over it I would say we're talking about the actual stone itself or maybe it's the the line that goes in between the stones hold them together there's many more cracks in that and therefore that would have a different shear I'm already I don't know what I can if a does not show his knife to the home we said yesterday in to show it to the home I hear for its covered. If you don't do that mission we're going to put a on that the my brain and will fire him from his job I hear for its covered. If you don't do that announcement put a at this guy's meat is not kosher in the and not even arguing with each other second by talking about a case where afterwards we found out that the knife was fine. He just didn't have the cover for the rough to ask him so we can put him in because he should have asked him. But where did say that we're going to say we're going to fire him and say his meat's not kosher? That's mission second if it turns out that really his knife is questionable because his knife's not so good then we're going to have to pass everything. I hear for its covered. If you don't do that when we find that his knife was actually not a good knife then we must miss lay the product. We're not just going to tell people not to buy his meat. We're going to ruin his meat. We're going to smear it with dung because now it's like the equivalent pouring bleach on the food that he's selling and no one even the market want to buy his dung flavored burgers at this point. I hear for its covered. If you don't do that mission he didn't show his knife to the local who was I hear for its covered. If you don't do that mission I hear for its covered. If you don't do that I hear for its covered. If you don't do that even without finding any problem with the second. I hear for its covered. If you don't do that they came to I hear for its covered. If you don't do that I hear for its covered. If you don't do that can you look into this maybe we could take away the why I hear for its covered. If you don't do that mission I hear for its covered. If you don't do that I hear for its covered. If you don't do that I hear for its covered. If you don't do that I hear for its covered. If you don't do that I hear for its covered. If you don't do that I hear for its covered. If you don't do that I hear for its covered. If you don't do that I hear for its covered. If you don't do that I hear for its covered. If you don't do that I hear for its covered. If you don't do that I hear for its covered. If you don't do that I hear for its covered. If you don't do that I hear for its covered. If you don't do that I hear for its covered. If about what the zakein said? Meaning the zakein being Rav Bar Chinena who said he's out of the job even without looking at the knife. Amar lei Rav Ashi said back, "Shlihusei kav dina." No, he asked us to look into it. He wanted to get this guy back his job. So, we're actually fulfilling his wishes as well here. Amar Rav Bar Huna, "Shein telusha v'tziparen telusha, a tooth or a nail that's been separated mutar leshcheita lechatchila." You can sharpen it and use it as a knife for shechita. Raktiga Mar bar Rav Ashi at the time, "Chutz mi magal kotzev v'hamageira v'shinayim v'tziparen." These kinds of things mipnei shehein chaimkin cuz they're not smooth enough, they're going to do a chanika rather than a proper shechita. But, the Gemara says, "Well, sheina sheina le kasha." Don't talk to me about one tooth from another tooth. "Haba chada v'tartai." A single tooth is going to be okay. It was two teeth that you're going to actually create a problem. "V'tziparen tziparen le kasha, haba telusha haba muchberes." Whether it was detached or it was attached, also, it'll be the same kind of idea. You got to look at the individual case to know whether or not smooth enough to do a proper shechita or whether it will be chanika. Zakt ha Mishnah, "Hashecheit b'magal kotzev b'derech aliyachas." So, let's say you're shechting with this sickle where the teeth of the blade kind of face one direction. If you actually move it in the direction of the angle of those teeth, "B'Shammai paslin u'Beis Hillel machshirin." "V'im achlikai shineha." And if you smooth out the teeth of the knife, "Hare hi k'sakin." Then it's like a good knife, which there's no problem at all to use. It's not like we're going to keep the issur there just because it used to have the teeth that you filed down. Zakt ha Gemara, "Amar Rebbi Chiya bar Abba amar Rebbi Yochanan, "Af she shecheir Beis Hillel even once Beis Hillel said that the animal is going to be kosher, lo achshirei le'tara midei le'veila." That's only that it's not a neveila, but rather a shechuta. "Aval ba'achila asura." Still you didn't do a proper shechita because because we're rabbonan. We don't like to use a sickle for shechita. Amar Rav Ashi, "D'ikana midik tani, 'B'Shammai paslin u'Beis Hillel machshirin.'" But, "V'lo ikana tani, 'It doesn't say B'Shammai oser u'Beis Hillel matirin.'" Which lechora would have been the right kind of loshon to use. But, the Gemara says, "Well, tameich listen you but according to you, it shouldn't say paslin u'machshirin either. It should say Beis Shammai metamein u'Beis Hillel metaharin cuz that should be the nikuda here. Ela paslin u'machshirin and v'oser u'matirin chada milsei." And if you don't have a dikana nami, there's no dikana nami from the Mishnah. 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That you're not going to say the Rubik Akula. And Rabin Shmuel, who said it would be okay, are not going to be maskim. So when Rabin Shmuel said that those tabois are not going to be kosher for shita, they're really saying their own deya and not the deya of Rabin Shmuel who does. So there's no kosher from the brice because Rabin Shmuel really are maskim that Rabin Shmuel himself holds that the tabois are actually also a kosher makam for shita. They just didn't hold like him. Now the way to understand why we say Rubik Akula by the Tabasco dialer when you have the Tabasco goes all the way around versus the lower tabois. So Rashi just says there's a difference but doesn't really clarify why. And Reb Gross spoke out from Reb Elchanan and the Chasam Sofer as he said about Rubik Akula that you can only say Rubik Akula when you have the entirety of something and you want to change the meat into the rove. So if I cut through the entire cement, if I have an area which the whole thing could work as the shita and I need to have the meat become part of the rove then that would work. say I don't have the whole thing because the entire area itself is not really the makam for the shita. Then it's going to be similar to let's say I have nine people. You're not going to say well Rubik Akula says I have a minyan. No, you can't say Rubik Akula unless you make a pick the meat to make it like the rove. But in the example of the minyan or in the case of the shita in the area that you can't use, you can't make something that's not shiyach into the gishak in area. But we're saying that Rabin Shmuel did not agree to Reb Shmuel regarding both halachas. Fact of Amora, "How do you Amora come Amri?" But Rabin Shmuel said that Reb Shmuel didn't say. In other words, the lashon sounds like just saying over what Reb Shmuel held but they were saying their own shita that they agreed to Reb Shmuel. So how do you come Amri? This is what Rabin Shmuel meant. Halacha by Tabasco dialer may not be by tabois. Okay. Reb Shmuel Reb Shmuel went from bubble to Israel. Reb Shmuel Reb Shmuel he ate from a behema that the shita would have been considered Reb Shmuel outside of the area according to Reb Shmuel. So Amri lay, people said to him, "Love may ask Reb Shmuel But, come from bubble from Reb Shmuel's Amar Lehu, my name is who said that Ravage Mall was possible such a shita on these lower taboos. Yai safe bar here. He's the one who said it. So, he said Yai safe bar here and he could learn he'll learn from anybody, meaning it's not as authoritative in fact he would say it. Sham Rav Yai safe Rav Yai safe heard that this was said about him he was mad bit. Amar I know who he learned that I learned this from just anybody. I know who the I learned this from Rabbi da filo fake a the gab regars. He would even say over things that were about when they were talking. Meaning he was very mad at it to always say over if it was not 100% clear the source. The Amar Rav Yehuda Amar Rav Baraba so thick the Rav so thick the it's a little unclear if this was said by Sham Rav or Shamul the matter is the three people who are to be when there's no to say that there's a but the point is you see how exacting he is in his teachings. But when went to he ate from such a meat that would have been considered not kosher in Bavel. So far Amar Rav Leslie nice and I love Amar Sham. That you have to on the person of those from the place in which he came from and and the of the place he's going to. So, how could now eat from such a when from his home town of Bavel would have been Amar by me Bavel Amar Rav you have to adopt those Amar Rav Bavel but Amar Rav Bavel Amar Rav if you're making human caffeine and since the Bavel are to the Amar Rav Amar Rav and therefore who came from Bavel to Israel was allowed to now have the cool of Israel because he can abandon all the of Bavel. Amar I feel Israel honey I did to be intending to go back but I did Amar Rav was making a one way trip to Israel to make Amar Rav Amar Rav Amar Rav Amar Rav Amar Rav Amar Rav came from said that Amar Rav Amar Rav Amar Rav Amar Rav Amar Rav so So, sounds like in Bavel they did not say this was a possible shrita, but rather they said it was kosher. Amalayzu back to Abaya, Nahara Nahara Upashte. There are a lot of rivers that each have their own way of flowing, which is an expression of Ailu v'ailu divrei Elokim Chaim. Apparently, a lot of chuvus farm like to use this expression. There's a lot of ways to learn. So, okay, Mishkin Kasha. Rebbe Shimon ben Lakish achsher b'chuda d'kaiva. Rebbe Shimon ben Lakish said that the shchita through the chuda d'kaiva, that's the point of the kaiva, it's like the hat at the very top of the kana, on that trachea, there's this little area called the kaiva. Even shchita as high as that will still be kosher. Kariya Rebbe Yochanan, gisa gisa. No, no, no, too much, too much. The Ritva says gisa gisa, it's an expression of my brother-in-law. Like, like, no way, bro, too much. That's too high. Omar Rebbe Pupa b'shmei d'Rava, paga b'chitei. Let's say the shochet already meets the chitei. What are the chitei? It's little pieces that look like chitim. They're actually made of cartilage. Inside that kaiva area, then already it's too high, it's definitely treifa. Now, you boil it. When we say you're paga, the naga b'hen, do you actually touch these little kernels? D'ksav v'yikbu b'yamas. Or dilma, paga v'lo naga. Maybe it means you just met up with them, but you didn't actually touch them. K'dei k'sav v'yikbu b'yamas al achei Elokim. So, there's different ways to understand the pegia of these chitim. So, it matter. Omar Rebbe Pupa b'shmei d'Rava, shiyer b'chitei. He left over some of the wheat kernels, meaning he cut some of this cartilage, k'she it'll still be kosher. Wow, very meikel. Omar Rebbe Avima bar Maryanuka, have I cut in the k'mei d'Rebbe Chiya bar Rebbe Avuya v'omar li. I was once before Rebbe Chiya, the son of Rebbe Avuya, and he said to me that shiyer b'chitei k'sheir. As long as you left over some of those wheat kernel areas, cartilage, then the animal will be kosher. And Omar Rebbe Avina l'Rebbe Ashi, Omar Rebbe Shimon mi'Suvra, that Iklav Mar Zutra l'Ashrin v'Dorash, shiyer b'chitei k'sheir. As long as you left over some of those chitim, the animal will still be kosher. All right, we're in the middle of this, we're going to stop here, and we'll be able to roll back a little bit for tomorrow. We'll discuss more of this next time.