Chullin Daf 120

All right. And yesterday we were discussing the makistan whether or not a nema a hair can be considered a yad. According to it could be and asked from the mission that's coming up in a couple about this piece of that has a bosser that and that little strand of hair is going to be mama. And doesn't that seem to say that a piece of hair can be a yad which says no it's a shimer. It's a shabimer and the gumarad said it's we asked how can you use it for fillin it's not if there's little holes and the garra says don't worry about it because of if the ink does not go through the hole so such a small hole is not significant enough to make it not and now we're picking up on the sixth wide line bay for a second terret va I'll tell you another terret why it's not sure from the mishna on the cyus on this or because kishad tak is a yad it's not a shimer but you know why it's going to work out yad it's because of kadomra It's not a single hair, it's a group of hairs. They're strength in numbers. So, a single hair would not be a yad, but a group of hairs or a single hair that's meant to be used as part of a group of hairs that would be considered a yadmar. And this idea where was it actually said on that mission in the first little bristles at the top of a ear of grain. They are mitarin. They can receive the toma and they can put out tma but they can't be mistarif for the shear of tom. And the reason is because each one of these little bristles on top of this ear of grain is a yad but not a shimemer. The question is going to be malai a single bristle on top of one of these ears of grain. It's for sure going to fall off if you grab it because it's one of many. When you grab it as a group in it will be a proper yad. Now we're going to have a couple other shinyness which are essentially the same conversation just with small varying details about who said what but the points will mish be the same that this is what asked that when asked from the Mishna about this says not and now continuing that conversation how could that be single hair can never be a it's going to rip off it's one Many what was the context of was originally talking about like it's going to rip off that was the context and there's yet another version of this in their conversation moving over to etc. They're talking a bone to have a shimemer because of the bone is a shimer for the marrow that's inside of it. It's not a yad because there wouldn't be enough of the shear to make the yad. But have a shimemer. A hair is not a shimer and therefore you're not going to have the shear. And as Rashi points out, it's not going to be because a hair on top of the meat is a shimmer. Every individual hair is also considered a shimer. How can that work? You can't have a shimer is It goes all the way through. So it's not a it goes all the way down through the R into the buser. You have this quite literally holy parchment now and therefore it's not and for the love the hole is small enough that it doesn't pose a problem from the coming up that piece of meat that's sticking out or is going to be my shimemer. So you see that a single hair is considered a shimemer and for it's one of many and where was the mocker that said this what can a single bristle do it's going to fall right away it's one of many and therefore you can lift up that ear of grain by grabbing all of them therefore every individual one will also be a so like I that it's exactly the same gimmar. It's just who said what and what was the context but they are all the same. Then the mish said that even the gravy is going to bear for the so what is it? So it's the fat if it's the fat if it's edible so then it is why does the mission have to say that it's to make it into got to be something that's inedible of it must have been already congealed. It's not the regular it's this congealed stuff which could be eaten with the meat but it's a different product. So mayorish why do we have to say it's congealed the point is it's something that's not the edible partnam even if it is not congealed if you're telling me that this thing is mitarif the sap that comes out of the y the vegetables so if the liquid version of this sear is considered when it's on the should also be considered food if it's sitting on top of the buser but there's a between this and of the whole of is an issue of not being just to refresh our memories there is no to eat but rather there's a to be yourself that's why this are different it's a not so here if you are achieving au because you've now consumed something that will make iter and therefore the convers even the smallest amount will be you need to have a certain shear of size based on it depends on whether it's congealed as a solid to allow for the and the way the rash understands this is because it calls man it's a liquid it's considered a mashka and not therefore it won't be mitarf then the mission had said vakipa which is something that settles at the bottom of the pot so it's the dregs at the bottom of the pot that is going to bear for the share of same if it's food why you coming out it itself is going to be so it can't be that it's the actual drags of real meatloaplin it must be the spices that remained in the pot and spices are never eaten by themselves so they wouldn't have their own but that's the they will be mitarf in such a situation. Okay. So now for the rest of today's daf we're going to talk about liquefying solids and solidifying liquids and we get to bounce around shas to do it and this is going to be a reference to a bryson not a mishna is let's say you cooked the dam such that now it became a solid and then you ate it or you liquefied the and drank it. So the is you still give me you get your curse and if you do you'll have to bring a carbon now if you solidify the blood you ate it I get it because even though it's changed because there's a now that you took the time to actually solidify and do something you made it in this new mativ and therefore going to be for eating the solid blood let's say I dissolve the and now I drink it says you got to eat it and this is not called eating foresh in it says in the so it's a special now Tyus over here asks why are we using a Pik to tell me that is also we know whenever the terror says don't eat we know you can't drink and Tyus is an important terret for this that you're right by a like and she when the terror says don't eat it it means not to drink it but by something that's a bar that you melted and you drink it That's when we're going to have a shila. It sounds like from Tyus that's not called eating. Rubik's been signed the Tyus and Nidan lad bays that has a very similar kashin terrace but the terrace is slightly different in the sense that the terret has said it's not considered eating when you're liquefying it but it's not considered the product changes and that kind of might have ramifications as well. And now let's move beyond and talk about other is we also learned let's say you and you drank it on if that thing is and if it's that you have a technical problem this liquid matzah is not considered that the terror requires you to But if you tell me your liqufied is going to be the you got to eat it and this is not eating you're drinking your mat. And now a third we know is if you dissolve it in the sun it will be and we'll see why soon. Why if you dissolve it are you actually going to be and drinking the liqufied is not also now the asksami so why is going to bear to which the explains if it liquefies in the sun it is gross and is only if it's considered an consumable and if it's so gross it is not and I need all three of these dras which all seem to be the same nephesh drussia that it's all considered a because meaning I to learn from because there was never a time when it was I couldn't have learned from and there's no for there's no fort ever and we'll see soon when there's I couldn't have learned from because and last if it only said and you want to learn the others two from there uh there's a unique that exists by the itself is an a and it itself conveys the as opposed to the that don't you're right you couldn't have used one to learn out the other two but let's learn one from two together tag team two of them and let's learn the third so high ty which one should you leave out and learn from the other two and learn from I'll say both have that unique and if you want to say skip the and learn from I'll tell both and have a shaker and is more than it had a shaker and if you want to say skip the and learn from play you can't learn from because have the same that there is no exception and they're always has so you can't learn this and what is this exception that can become telling me it's because the of a behemoth gets burned on the misb. So that's a hutter. But I'll tell you no, there's also a hut mla by noa. In what way? Malikasa. This is amazing. When you do malika on a bird, that is a nea and you're bringing it on the misbeh. Incidentally, you see that the gammorra here is calling malika a nea. As we've spoken about in the past, there's a yuakir by malika. Is that a for a bird or is it really not a it's a heet of a nea? Here the gammorra is all but saying beerish. This is a heter of a nea. Both Rabbi Razar and Rabbi Gross pointed this out when they said their which is the most thing of is always. So what is this? No. It's the simple understanding of the fact that is always in this that you're asking that a is allowed to eat the of even though it's technically a I'll tell you there's never really a but since they're being this week it's not considered a nea because at that point it's coming straight from goya. So bottom line we can't leave out the drussa of nephesh from any one of the three and learn from the other two as there are unique that exist by all the other twos theim by the it says that and that we'reing all these other parts of the so why does the need to all these liquids that come out of ligma let's learn from the things before meaning those three that the liquid forms of these things are also going to be user just like it solid forms So too I don't need everything I need everything because and therefore I would have said just like you need to have at least a kaz of that liquid I might have said also you need to have a kaz of liquid for this but it's not true because even if it would be as small as an adasha it would still be matama it's interesting that we talk about the liquefied thing is a kazay not a raas of simka theam they all discuss this idea of a solid that becomes liqufied still has the properties of the solid such that we go through the solid. Turning over to let's learn from that their liqufied form is like their solid form and therefore and therefore everything else can be learned from which the answer is no means as small as this. So thatra of size byim is going to prevent us from learning to the other things that require like a kaza. What about the Bryce that says all of these kinds of the Bryce says that all of the liquids that come out or come from these different things are going to have the same den as them? But Nolan who says that once they're liquefied they're also going to have the same properties from the different we've already said I'll tell you they happen automatically meaning you don't do anything to make these things. they are and it would likewise be the same for most of the other ones and they are also automatically asser but as Rashi points out is not that way you have the human input of making these things that the Tes argues with Rashi he says that even it's going to be the kim is the one that we're asking from also but the so therefore I hear it when the is happens automatically that we can learn from those original and etc etc but and how you going to know that a liquified form of these things are also going to bear says bikurim where the owner sets those aside and that's not automatic because you have to do something about it and tie your ribbon around these peris and the terra does tell us that the liqufied form of bikor is also going to have the same how do you know that pre the tyr says you got to bring piska I might have thought you can't bring a liquid form for but how you know if you bring grapes and you squeeze them into wine how do you know that you'll also be tumble or tvi so you see the liqufied form of bikram is also going to be considered burim so you can compare that he dish and therefore even liquefied he dish you'll have the headish there are specials that you have by of the you put on the idea of how you know the liqufied form of truma is going to have a truma the calls so we're making a heckish that just like is considered the p so to liquefied truma is considered truma You have the special. So the Mar says okay tag team the two of them. But I'll say also you're right. Learn from Truma. That'll be the plus one of the other ones or in one of those. So Truma plus one or plus one. And the Gar seems to be happy with that. What about the Mishna in the 11th paracum that eats any of these liquids? We have what are they arguing about? What is the arguing about this idea of when you learn one thing from another thing? Does it have to go all the way or not? Which is our source? So the trum in the same exact way and we'll continue to learn from it that just like has other kinds of paris beyond just shamim of grapes and olives also by truma the is that these liqufied paras are going to be like their original fruits even by other kinds of fruit. This of course has to worked out with Rashi and the Rambam if there is truma by things other than by other fruits is learning over from all the way over to Truma completely we're going to learn from it that they have the same liquids and solids but then leave it in its own context that just like the liquids that can be made as truma are limited meaning because it's only wine and oil that you can make into also the liquids that come out of Truma are going to have those same one more says in the mission you can't bring as a liquefied form of has to be from olives and grapes money who's that going to be like that when the Tyra puts together the trum it's only going to be as far as oil and wine and therefore he learns from Truma the only liquefied bikurim is going to be some zum and and okay we're going to stop here and pick it up with this Next behood tan for tomorrow