Chullin Daf 105

All right. This is Thursday's daf as we start the new of waiting between agra who was the of taught a bry that both meaning bird meat and gavina and cheese can be eaten one after another which is a lushion of derfkarashi says guess airen is the same kind of word as the word heker in other words you don't have to worry about it you can eat one after the other as long as you don't eat them together taught this Bryce. He explained it in the following way. When we say we mean you don't have to wash your hands in between and you don't have to actually somehow you're wiping out the inside of your mouth. You don't need to do that. So they brought cheese to him and he ate it. Then they brought some meat and he ate it. And in fact when he ate it he didn't even wash his hands in between. They said to him, "You can eat the chicken and the cheese one after the other without washing in between, but sounds like real cow meat. You certainly can't eat without washing your hands in between. So why didn't you wash your hands between the cheese and the buser?" He said to them, "Honey bleia, you know when you have to wash your hands at night time when you can't see if there's any of the schmutz from your previous m on your hands. I will be a mama where I can see my hands. I can see my hands so I don't need to wash my hands. And lisa today where we have lights and it's not really dark. We never really are eating in the total darkness. You shouldn't have to wash your hands but it's not so posh that some place come say you do have to wash your hands even in such a mat we learned in aim you have to wipe out the inside of your mouth with something before you eat after the you have to rinse out the inside of your mouth. Although the rabban learn means you have to wash your hands but Rashi learns it's washing out your mouth. Now frankly, what does the price mean when it says the B says you have to do a and what does it mean that B says you have to do a moving over each one is mutually exclusive each one holds you have to do one of these respective processes and you don't have to do the other one but how's that going to work when we talk about you're wiping out the inside of your mouth with a piece of bread so that member from isra going like doesn't make sense obser would be saying like what you're going to say is this is how you read the brace you have to do the but you don't have to do that you also have to rinse out your mouth so what you're going to give another suggestion that it's not just but also is what holds that's no good because ends up being more and then should be part of the list of the few times that is more than this ain't one of them. Ella what's the either one will work according to you rinse out your mouth before you eat the cheese and also you have to do the in other words both are saying you should do the inside your mouth don't have they just were focusing on each other respective thing to do with a solid food and with a liquid in your mouth to get rid of all the pieces of cheese in there. But it is a two-step process to be able to eat the buser afterwards. Kofa. Now, there's plenty of precedent to do some sort of quinoa even today. The taz brings from the ram that aged cheese the fancy cheeses that actually might require several hours in between. And aged cheese according to the sha is if it's aged for 6 months. This member from Rosa that you only do it with bread. It's got to be wheat bread, but if it's made out of barley, it's not going to work as Rash explains because the barley bread crumbles into small pieces and it's not going to stick together when you chew it. And therefore, it will not effectively remove the cheese that's in your mouth. We didn't even say you could use the wheat bread unless it is cold bread, but if it's hot bread, it's going to stick to the pallet. Won't do a good job cleaning out the cheese that's in your mouth from beforehand. And we're only going to say this cold wheat bread is going to work when it's soft. But if it's hard and it's going to be crumbly, it ain't going to work. flour, dates, and vegetables are the only things you cannot use for because Rashi says they're too soft and therefore they're going to be sticky. Now, we get into the big issue about waiting after flesh. How long should you wait between eating meat and cheese? Not at all. Is that true? You're allowed to eat cheese right after meat. You're not allowed to eat cheese afterwards. But the other way around is going to be you could eat the flesh after milk just not milk after this. How long do you have to wait in between the cheese and the meat? Not at all. After eating the you don't have to wait at all. Once you ate meat, you can't eat the milk afterwards with the meat that's stuck between your teeth. So we call this buser even after it's in the teeth. So whereas one might think well for sitting in your teeth it's no longer meat anymore. It doesn't have a den of meat because it's like processed in your teeth. No it's not true. It's still called buser. According to Rambam peress rice. This is the reason why you have to wait after you eat fleshik before you can eat milk because we're afraid of the meat getting stuck in your teeth. Rashi doesn't hold that way. Rashi says because the buser is mighty a certain kind of schuman. There's the nature of meat that it somehow lingers and that's why you have to wait 6 hours or whatever long you're going to wait before you can have your milkab this thing I'm like vinegar my father who's like wine meaning my father's more than me in the sense in what sense if he would eat me today he wouldn't eat it until the same time tomorrow he wouldn't have his coffee with milk for 24 hours after he had his flesh I will only wait until the next meal before I can eat my cheese. And this is the only that talks about how long do you have to wait after flesh before you can eat your milk until the which say it's 6 hours. Many of us myself included have a minute to wait into the sixth hour. That could come from the lion of the Rambam because the Rambam writes sh which sounds like he's softening the sha. There are those who say that the only reason why the Rambam says Sha is simply because they worked with sund dials back in the day and they just simply didn't know exactly when 6 hours was up. The miri and the moves says it's going to be five or 6 hours. Of course, there's a minute for 3 hours. The yakisha minig that 1 hour Dutch minig is brought by the ram. But it's interesting when he talks about his father, he says my father's like wine and I'm like vinegar. Like why did he just do like his father and just also wait 24 hours? and the Balmus point out that it could be he just simply wasn't holding on the Madrega where he should take on such a we're not all to take on at the level we're at back to the Omar this I'm like vinegar my father who's like wine my father would take a look at his properties to see what he needed to do in the farm twice a day but me I only check it out once a day so it's fascinating he's saying his father was more than me because he would actually be more mbid to scrutinize his parnosa issues and investigate your everyday you're going to find an which is a kind of coin some kind of a money amount and I find this interesting because himself was a doctor right he wasn't a farmer would take a look at his properties every day one time he found a sharecropper who was carrying a bundle of wood that he was really stealing from a buya's field so said these pieces of wood where you taking them. So this orus the sharecropper said to the master's house which is saying to your house you and your evil ways over here every day my check because you are stealing from me. He said to himself, "Where are all those aeras that money that Marm spoke about?" One day he was looking around his field and he saw a stream of water coming from a crack in the irrigation canal and it was coming out through a crack in the wall and it was going to flood his whole field and ruin all his crops. So shakasi took his beet. He rolled it up. He stuck it in the crack plugged up the dam if you will and it saved the crop. Roma he shouted for helpui people came and they actually fixed it properly and therefore he was spared. Omar, I found all those of in other words, this is a good advice to check out what's going on with your every day. Okay. The you do before eating bread is a mitzvah. It's only but it's a mitzvah. But the that's you have to do that. Now, of course, you have to do mitzvah also, but they're arguing about how much of a it is and is a stronger expression. Makes they ask from the you see they're the same is the that you use to wash your hands in between the courses that's going to be a but it sounds like the is the same level of which the answer is the is not really it's only a mitzvah but the only we're going to call that is you can pour over your hands into a kay or straight on the ground should be done only into a cle and some say this is how you read the brace the should not be poured over your hands onto the ground so what's the difference it sounds like the same thing some say you can wash over wood chips meaning according to that first version of the bry that you could pour it only into a kali washing over wood chips is not going to work just because that's not a kayal but according to the latter wood chips is going to be okay you can use either cold or hot water. Cold water. The reason why you shouldn't use hot water because it makes the hands softer. So, the greasy on your fingers are going to be going into the skin. So, it's not going to actually take off the grease. So, don't use hot water for grease. That we said, you can use hot or cold water. As long as it's not really hot water because if it's really hot water, they're going to burn your hand. That's no good. But if the water is so hot that the hand is going to get burned cannot be used with it cannot be used with water that's talking about you have to use cold water you could use it as long as not since we're defining hot water as so therefore Even if it's yetis, but you can use it. But the truth is I said, but it means it's going to burn your hand. A better translation is that your hand is going to be silent. It'll recoil. You'll pull your hand back. There's another level of hot water where it actually does burn your hand and that will certainly be no good. The Bryce had said that the water you use to wash your hands in between courses is between different dishes within the between meat and cheese. You have to wash your hands. That's actually why do we wash our hands from you have this melamus which could blind a personal and that gets on his fingers. So you have to wash your hands to get that melamus off your fingers. This kind of very dangerous salt is only found of one grain perour of regular salt. If you measure the salt, what's going to be the do you still have to wash your hands or is it only somebody who's actually eating and not just doing the measuring process of salt? If you handle the salt, you certainly have to wash your hands afterwards. It's not about eating, it's about handling the salt. In the beginning, I used to think if you don't wash your hands over the ground, it's because the water is going to turn gross. It's gonna turn the ground gross. Rashi says it's going to create a bad ra. It's not a good idea to pour directly on the ground. That's why you shouldn't do it. Omar, but then told me because of something spooky. That's why you shouldn't pour directly on the ground. I mean in the beginning I used to think the reason one's the reason one doesn't take anything off the table when another person is sitting at the table drinking from his cup is because maybe there will be some terrible choking mativ because he's going to choke on his drink don't take that off the table. So we don't want to put him in a mat where he might choke and therefore leave things on the table while he's drinking. But then it's only because of some spooky shade or something that will happen if you take these things off the table while he's still drinking. That's only if you take it off and not put it back. If you take it and put it back, it's no problem. It's only if you took the thing more than four away from the table. There's no problem. Only if you take something off the table you need for the meal brother there's no problem taking it off was careful not to take off the table even the mortar and pestle for grinding up the spices because he held that was something you need for the meal said in the beginning I used to think that we would gather all the breadcrumbs meaning we would sweep the floor carefully on from under the table because we wanted to be cleanly mar but then Mar told me if you leave crumbs on the floor it can cause an why we're very careful to clean all the crumbs off the floor. There was somebody who the of an was trying to him but he couldn't get it because he was very careful about not leaving crumbs on the floor. One day he was eating bread on the grass. So this malik said I'm going to cap him now because he's not being careful now. It's on the grass. So after he ate, he brought a shovel. He uprooted the grass together with the crumbs and threw them all into the river and he heard the Malik saying didn't even get this guy out of his helm. In other words, I wasn't able to him and make him an back in the day. I used to say the reason why people don't drink the foamy part that builds up on top of your that builds on top of your drink because that's gross. Then it can trigger the of something else that's spooky. Drinking that foam will cause the to come. Whatever that spooky thing is and if you blow at that foam, it will create some sort of sickness in the head. If you push it, it makes someone poor. So, how do I deal with all the foam on top of my drink? There it is. Wait, let it settle on its own. Someone who suffers from kum as a result of drinking the foam on top of his wine is the the antidote to that is to drink beer. And if he drank it from beer and now he's got problems, he should drink water. But if he has this problem of this from drinking the water foam, there's nothing he can do about that. To the poverty comes more poverty. I mean at the beginning I used to say the reason why people don't eat vegetables directly from the bundle tied by that gardener you look like over here eating fast but the reason you shouldn't do it is because it can actually make somebody susceptible to I guess be the victim of going on a boat said to them seat me together with you on the But they didn't give her a seat on the boat. So Omra Mila she said some kind of incantation some spooky witchcraft and she made the boat not move in. So they said another kind of a magical thing to go in her and they were countering it. So now she released the boat and this matronisa said to them what can I do to you? You don't clean yourselves with apa after you go to the bathroom and you don't kill a lous on your clothing and you don't eat the vegetable from the bundle of the garden or just tied. These are the things that would typically allow spells to be on them. So by the fact that they're not these things it is not it does not put them into any danger. I mean I used to think the reason why people don't eat vegetables that fell off the table because it's gross. But then I heard the reason why I don't do it because it causes bad breath. I used to think the reason why people don't sit under a drain pipe because of spilling waste water. But then I heard because it could be spooky problems. All right, we're going to pick it up with the Hanushkoy for Friday's