Chullin Daf 104

All right, today is Daval. It's Wednesday's DA. We get to start the new peric all about. We know is aish and byes we mean that it's aer. And there are different ideas found in the about why either it's because are both independently mut. So the fact joined together should make avar is a or perhaps it's because when you mix them it's notice it's only when you cook them. The Rambam when he talks about the reason for aside from being exervive is because the Zara would mix and in fact the of is written by the Yam when the would bring carbonus to indicate that this is the converse of our carbonus. This was their carbonus. Rambam often does this by many of the mitzvah. Also, when we talk about bas, as we're going to learn, there are three different things you're not allowed to do. You're not allowed to cook them. You're not allowed to eat them. And you're not allowed to get off from them. And there are different makers, but the most popular one is the fact that the Tyra gives the isser three times to indicate all three things. And now with that introduction to all meat, all kinds of meat is so first of all, we have to define buser because the bus says gadi. So how much do we expand gad? Is it all kinds of meat? is fish, chicken, are they all considered meat? We'll have to see. Lashel, we need to determine vos haste cooking. How about or pickling etc. And to find the milk is we talking about milk from a cow etc. All these different kind of sh we're going to be discussing anyway. You're not allowed to be the rajb when he reads this Mishna understands that when we talk about bish we also mean eating. And the Mishna is simply using the terminology of because that's what the tyrros but the raan learns that our Mishna is dka. We're talking about the is of but anyway all kinds of except for fish and locusts those are not going to have an iss of and we're going to talk in the about the and now we introduce you cannot put that meat with the gina with the cheese on the same table except for buser of fish and that you could have the gina on the same table moving over to and now the mission tells us Another that if someone makes a net there that they're not allowed to eat they're allowed to have fish and because it's not called as we know goes buster but we're ready to see the gar from the fact that Mishna says that any is going to be except for what's the mash that bes is going to be mida to cook with milk but come on who's that going like the caribbe It certainly can't be because he says that it's only that's going to be to cook with milk but are not going to be so certainly can't be the Mishna which we says is saying is going to be but then if I make a net then I'm not going to eat any buster I'm allowed to eat dog so is it sounds like I am not allowed to eat because as Rash explains we go buser the lushian ban And a piece of chicken is also considered flesh. Now that any time when you make a to go do some kind of instruction with a more generalized terminology it's considered that meaning it's in that term and let's explain what we mean from the somebody who says I'm not going to have a nether from vegetables. So he's allowed to eat duan which are gourds not quite vegetables but you can see why there might be a confusion but says they sent why would it be if somebody would tell his go buy me some produce vegetables in the supermarket and he comes back and says okay look boss I only was able to find should I buy them therefore they're saying you see from the fact that du were not that he had to ask must be it's not part of y and therefore if says no. He didn't ask I couldn't find vegetables but I found beans. The reason why he's only asking is because it's to it and there's a so therefore that's why you should be from also but the reason why he didn't even bother asking about kitney because kis has no sh but anyway what do you see from the mission that it's not going like but the second part of the mission does seem to go like and therefore the gar bothered to which the says to the is not anyone but rebi and himself went according to different So it's not it's like because it's all going like rebi who picked and choose who you want like but no it really is cool and this is what the mission said all kinds of meat you can't cook but of those some of them are some of them a steak with your milk to cook it is but your chicken with your Milk is only and if you want to cook it with your fish and your not even totally but it could all be. The next part of the mission said you cannot put meat on the same table as your cheese except for must be is not only but it's actually because if you're willing to entertain that chicken and milk is only then the whole eating of chicken and milk itself is only a we're going to make a dindraon to not put the cheese on the table with the same as your chicken because of a durabonet. Well, that's a draon to a durabon. That's a lexero. We don't do that sort of thing. Delegra who says we don't do this and Tyus is quick to point out that sometimes the garumar doesn't ask this question. And sometimes as Tyus says it says he goofer vaner and while Tyus doesn't really explain he just says different gar deal with this issue differently. Anyway, what's the reason we don't make now this is just a precedent in a mishna. The mocker itself might be as Rashi says of you're supposed to make a mishar to make guardrails up for your dice of Misharis and we're not supposed to make guardrails to the guardrails right that's the rashisha in bea there is a tach that wants to suggest that if kazal would be allowed to make zeras it would be safe because we would constantly be afraid of doing a kazal would constantly make more up to the point where you couldn't live so there has to be a line that we draw in the sand that we only make one level of but anyway where is this precedent that we don't make axer As the Mishna in the fourth per of says that we have that's only durabon which is outside of Israel. Interestingly there is a den of kalislars even know it today of course but we don't have a thing called trumaslars unless you're in surya but you don't have a d of trumis and micusan in America but we do with kala and tyus discusses what the difference is kala is much more prevalent not everybody is a farmer. Okay, alapon where do we see this idea of not making because the mission in says turning over the allowed to eat it sitting together with the at the same table now of course can't eat but he's allowed to do it when it comes to and it can be given to any kind of even so clearly when the actual itself is only we're not going to create a new to not eat with the zar which is going to be the comparable thing over here putting the cheese on the same table as the chicken is not going to be a problem because it's only leg. I'm really a buy it bar that would make sense for this Mishna if you would be saying that the arts is being located in because now already the mixup and the has some kind of significance at least then the is available as an iser and therefore there's a to make a and now from the fact the Mishna says that you don't have to be ga now you can learn from this Mishna that Raon are not going to make any kind of of the gina together with the chicken because that would be axer in a muck where the is potentially sh on another level. But if the mission is only talking about this kind of inut that there's no muck to beer at all you wouldn't have a that you're not supposed to make. here. Even if the chicken with meat is only in, there's still going to be a that if you allow him to put the chicken and the cheese on the same table. Even if you're going to put the buser and the on the table at the same time, it's still not because it's both. It's cold and cold and there's no there's a muck that you could actually if you brought the hot pot. Well, It's still going to be a draon because it's only a cliche. The clichi ain't a masha and a clicheni is not going to cook. Even though there's exceptions when clicheni can cook that's why people are makid that if the hot potato from the cholant is sitting on the plate don't put the klelaw there because ai which is the chant coming out of the hot pot might actually think things. Okay. But is not and for the to actually beer by the and the is because you actually might bring the and cook it on the table there. Okay. So we're not allowed to have the on the same table as the buser but that is not to everybody. You are allowed to put it on the same table as long as you don't eat it together with the cheese. But that's the bird meat cannot go on the same table with cheese and also can't be eaten with the cheese. This is one of those unique things that was actually more than what kind of table are we talking about to put the on the same table. talking about a table that someone eats at a table that you arrange the food like a buffet on a side table. No problem. Okay. Okay. So this that B is more to put these things on the same table and and to that says this is one of the coolest of the fact that Bish is saying that it's like yeah obviously that's more what's point now maybe you're saying this that there's eating is the difference. So when says this is what is one of the shi he wasn't talking about the thing about putting it on the table. He was talking about the second idea eating the chicken with the and the explains That maybe the is saying that there's only but there's no that itself is but that can't be because we learned in the mission in the fifth paras there are six things and this is one that says so clearly is holding the same as the soa back toasha what is And what's his more than just says himself that who is the mission that says is going to allow you to put the on the same table with and that that's and that the whole point is just to say that this was who said it because it's and we are going to stop here and pick it up from Tanagra for Thursday.