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Today's daff is
and we are two lines from the bottom of
so we're moving along in the taru
sugis of peridan
some of the most famous some of the most
lish
doin chass the sugia of tam kicker
we're literally smack in the middle of a
so let's just set this up a little bit
the
said that what is the to the idea of
it's learned out from the par of the
says that when a nazer concluded his
nazirus he had to bring three carbonas a
katas and a schlum the schlamim that the
nazer brought was unique in that it was
cooked not just that but the zurya
of the schlom that was cooked together
with the rest of the schlom had to be
given to the kayen. In fact, a zar was
not allowed to eat from that. If that's
the case,
to the extent that you're cooking the
together with the rest of the and the is
to a nonen the rest of the is going to
be given to the nonen. How then would
the nonen the nuzer be allowed to eat
the meat of this animal being that it
was cooked together with Israel? It
hasn't it a taru voice of iser and if
that's the case there should be a
problem the ter is it must be that even
though you have this taru voice but as
long as there's a she that in it of
itself is going to be okay and the garra
said this is the mccar to the concept
that is what is the shish is that the
only shar no we saw really it's one
mandar says it's shishim which is of
course the other mandar says that it's
100 and the said that really both of
those learned their respective positions
from the of the bash theor
had a kasha the kasha was from aa the
discusses this unique parisha of this
and then the bryer says quote zetal
this that you find by is unique to the
it's not something that can universally
be applied throughout
It's a
meaning what's becoming in
is something that ordinarily would
really become think
ordinarily as an ineter
is the same way it's a
if that's the case how could we say that
the mart
is learned from this we have a mafura
that says is that the bash is a very
unique par. It's a bomi. You can't learn
anything from the par of and the gumar
in the end of yesterday's daf gave one
terret in the beginning of today's daf
the garumar is going to give additional
two terutim which means if you do the
very simple back of the envelope
arithmetic by the time we're done with
this part of the suga the very first
portion of the daf 1 + 2 equals 3 we're
going to have three mahal had to answer
this kasha now just the khazer the one
that we saw at the end of yesterday's
daf a bay was the and said that when the
Bryer said
the Bryer didn't mean that the
is that there's a concept of B it and be
it but rather the BA was referring to
another that's in the Bash and it's
regarding that other that the BC is
saying that's limited to Zasha and
that's not something that can be
universally apply. Now what is that
other
this is animeto is going according to
that holds minimal if minim is lo so the
whole concept of the zya being bottle
should be dead on arrival because it's
minimino they took the entire animal it
was an aisle remember and it was all
cooked together so the zya is the same
min as everything else that's being
cooked right now according to rahuda
mimina you can have a thousand times
is would not be bottl in the par of you
see that it is that idea that you have
even by is what the was referring to
when it said
whereas ordinarily
over here it's going to be but as it
relates to the
as it relates to where it's
that it's in the parish it works
that's not that's something that is
universally applied and that is
something that would be true in as well.
So it's true there is an element of
that's unique to that you can sue
to any other area of there's also an
element of that you can to other areas
of the fact that you see that
that's something you cannot shel the
fact that you see there's a concept of
that is something that you can shel that
was the first ter of Gamurra that was
Abaya's terret the second terret if Abay
is the first terret it almost goes
without say you don't have to look in
the Guruda in a you know is going to be
Raa we're about to see that Raba is
going to give a very similar terret to
Abaya so similar that we're going to
have to speak out a little bit of
explain really what the is stating that
I think it's kadai to introduce rava
before we actually start the garra for
one second and that is we're learning
the sugi of of Tom Keker. Tomar is a
full winter's man in yeshiva and some.
So obviously it's not a sug that we can
really learn in the a lot of time that
we have but just one concept that's just
to understand and really to have a
better on the whole and that is when we
talk about that was with if the is even
if there is going to be
whatever the b in that respective sugu
voices is we are the could be into the
one is we have a and it was
so for example just to use a very
dramatic example blood blood is the says
you're not let blood if somebody does
if blood would be with it was with fruit
punch that looks a little bit like blood
there's some sort of a taru voice over
here between the iser and the hat over
there you have of this is a classic
example of a of there's another example
of where you don't have the of the
that's being together with the all you
have is the t of the is that's being
together with the is so for example you
cooked a piece of non-coosher meat
together with kosher food you then after
you cooked the meat removed the meat out
of the pot so that there's
of meat in the voice. You have what
referred to as
that too is a problem and there too
there's a that unless you have a certain
ratio of to
is the is going to be also but there's
enough between the two cases where the
dam was the is
when you cook together with and you
remove the doer all I have is the t of
the iser when I have the mamosh I have
the of the when I have the it's by
definition
I don't have the of the it's the latter
case that we usually mean when we in a
nuance way discuss
so again both cases are cases where
we're trying to is there time of the is
in the or is there not time of the is in
the hence but in one case all I have is
the time in the other case I have what's
the difference is member is a member
throughout shas that
isol more than that
is
these are all shas where all I have is
the time where I don't have the I don't
have the where I have the there would be
different by the way this is all the way
all these over here in parag again this
is a huge
but I think just for simple of the next
that we're about to learn to internalize
this point. Then when we talk about is
it
if I have the of the there well then
it's if I remove the of the but there
was a little bit of plasm that came out
that's what's known as it's the latter
that the now is going to be referring to
when it talks about the concept of but
either way
said that you want to know what the
terret is we learn from
we have a price of that says as it
relates to
which would seem to imply you can learn
from which one is it could I learn or
can I not learn said that when we said
you can't learn you know what it was
referring to it was referring to it was
referring to why the
because when it comes to
when it comes to
yet you find
that you don't say
this is
despite the fact that it's Tom's also
still you're not saying Tom and that's
what the price meant when it said
but as it relates to
that is something that you can learn
from
so what does this mean long rash here on
the bottom of the it's a couple things
number one is that as it relates to
where I don't have the all I have is the
even though the throughout brings for it
those
All it is is what is the
bring the in one second. It's the end of
this line. But by it's ina
by
it's only in
the way the learn
is also being the
who holds that
is if
and
is by
well that would mean that the idea that
this bish Shayla could be bottle should
be dead on arrival. The reason is
because even though I only cooked the
Zoya together with the rest of the
aisle, I'm removing the Zoya. I'm giving
it to the Cen. So that all I have from
the Zoya is the Tam. But if
I'm dead based on that, there shouldn't
be any eight. So you can have
this shouldn't be a problem
that even though
this we're treating like and over here
we're going to say there's no Tom if
there's no Tomo so over here we can make
a right for sure on the disso level and
what is the going to be it's going to be
but as it relates to shishim that is
something that we don't say
that's something if you would want to
apply elsewhere you would be able to do.
So Ro is saying very similar to what Ro
is saying is that the Bryce is going
based on that the whole concept of a
should be dead on arrival. The fact that
we even entertaining a that's secondh
and that's that. But as it relates to
once we're agreeable to look at over
here what the should be the fact that
it's shisha that's something that we're
comfortable applying elsewhere. Now if
are both being
that it's going
so why is it two separate roots? Aren't
they essentially saying the same thing?
What did Abaya say? Abaya said the price
is going
here and that's a head there that you
only have here. Don't think elsewhere
elsewhere. Ra is essentially saying the
same thing. He's just making it a little
more complicated. Ra is saying that this
is a case of Tom ordinarily by Tom and
we're going that holds
when it comes to this over here we're
going to treat it like it's not going to
be an issue and saying the same exact
thing and are both saying that we're
going based on that the whole concept of
should be dead on arrival
but that's what the price means when it
says it's unique here it's not something
we're going to be able
But if you look at what is saying
carefully, what is saying carefully,
you'll realize what is that according to
there's a
that you don't say
according to there's a
that you don't say
is taking the you see much further than
is taking it. Ab is saying that you
don't say
again this all in the world you don't
say
is saying
I'm don't think you see from here
that you don't say
at all what I think is that you don't
say
so to say that being that I have a Tom
and usually
so therefore should be dead on arrival
kamash one you don't say tom
But that of course you would say
according to
there's no what would be the very very
simple what would be if
would completely disintegrate and
dissolve into the according to as long
as you have you're going to be good to
go
you don't say according to we never said
You don't say we SAID YOU DON'T SAY. SO
IF I remove the and all I have is the
tom. So then already there's no time
you're going to have a but let's say the
itself would be it would dissolve into
the rest of the
then already I have a a regular
and in that situation you would have the
problem of
but the bottom line is very similar to
with that huge distinction and that is
according to when we say listen what we
mean is that even Ordinarily,
you don't say
to be that.
But when it comes to yet
which says that you don't say
maybe learn from that you never say Tom,
right? Why are you assuming that this is
an exception to the rule? Maybe this is
the rule. Why don't you learn from it to
that you don't say
even by the says you can't say that
because
the
is 101 that anything that touches the
carbon gets a
for example is it could only be it could
only be in so if you have some other bos
that would touch the it would take on
the of the karmakas what do you see from
Here you see that if a piece of meat
touches the katas, all it has is the
katas, right? The kas didn't dissolve
into the piece of meat. It was nice and
Tom to it and you seem
says you can't learn from you don't say
because I know from they do says
right
that's all part of that that we learn
from
that anything that touches the
gets the
that's why you can't learn from
So in other words, you have a parish in
you seek. You have a parach
where is that
how do you know is the rule and is the
exception to the rule. Maybe is the rule
and is the exception to the rule. So
maybe
is different. So theor says I'll tell
you why. because it makes sense not to
be able to learn from because
right this is an identical uh repeat of
the yesterday's being that the whole is
so you can't learn from what's
said in the beginning of the and
yesterday's it's because even though
there is a that takes place by but we
know that is
and by they used to cook together with
everything else so being that You're
violating
there's a in this par you can't learn
from there's no in the paras there's a
par that's why we assume that is the
exception but says if you tell me and
therefore you can't learn from there you
don't say
so why able to learn
from there so says
when you say you can't learn from a
pares means you can't learn a from such
a parach you see a
so therefore I can't learn from here now
another Tom but just because I see a
doesn't mean I can't learn and the fact
that there's a bit of is actually not a
says it's a because without
you would assume
you would assume that all is from the
fact that
that's not a that even forget that's a
only of
disallows a but it doesn't disallow
either way that is the second when we
say
we don't mean
what are we referring to referring to
which
it's not that is unique
is the third he said you want to know
what the big is that the B was referring
to when it said that oh in this
that you can't learn anywhere else. It's
it was referring to
it's referring to the area where was
severed from the rest of the aisle the
because we know that
that ordinarily the isser
over here it's so if the concept of the
sounds a little familiar it's because we
learned about this not so long ago.
So if you remember
that somebody
so the is the mother and it's m the as
well stating that if one of the hands
one of the of the was protruding outside
the of the mother at the time of the
that hand would be not only would that
hand be assur but when you chop the hand
off even the the place where the hand
that a meets the rest of the go that
would also be a that you usually find in
Dutch where you have one a of an animal
that's the rest of the animal is the
place where you made the incision you go
that's also going to be by
the is and ra that's what that price was
referring to that ordinarily the
over here it's going to be bottom line
from we learn what's
we have a says
you can't learn anything from we have
three roots in what that price is
referring to between the three is it's
not referring to everything that you see
in and it's not referring to the
it's referring to some other that you
see over there what was the other
according to it's going and the cool is
that you see according to the is that
you see from the Tom Kaba even though I
caught him usually Tomk is according to
Ravino the is that the kak
is going to be motor either way. This
concludes the first part of today's daf.
Second part of today's daf is going to
focus on a Mishna in the susa
and it's really more than one Mishna.
The Mishna are in peric bay. It starts
Mishna Daled and goes through Mishna's v
and z. And I think that just as an
introduction to this next part of the
daf, it's kadai to go through these
innovating not the easiest inn.
Now just to set up why we're about to
talk about
it's because
we had
regarding the
is it
from the like we've been talking about
in the first part of the but there's a a
shear of
the whether the she is shishim the she
is male now is going to ask a mandar if
you remember it was
in the name of ai who held that the she
is
so this mission over here in
is talking about where there's some sort
of between iset the isuma
the is now truma is only for someone
that's not already such as a non kite
but you have a is of
is is between and
is
that the sheer of
is so if you have 101 times
the truma then it's going to be if you
don't have 101 times not so ordinarily
we
right that's the we like but when it
comes to truma it's it's a different
share over there the share is 101 and
that's what's going on over here in
these starting from
So if somebody would take a voice of
together with
we're going to focus on truma. So
somebody makes a taras of and truma if
the truma is it leavenvens it causes the
to rise or it's metab it spices it or
it's just mixed together with it is
it's going to be I'm skipping to
with regards to what did say that
so it seems
said that when it comes to a of where
the trum is
if it's so the are the same you go if
it's
two different meaning so then it's going
to be sometimes and sometimes it's going
to be
right sourdough of that's and it fell
into dough of so this is clearly
is and the
and there's enough of this to be to
cause the issa to let
if it has the ability to impose itself
on the issa whether you have 101 of
or you don't have 101 either way it's
going to be
let's say you don't have 101
it's going to be then whether it has the
ability to be muhammed or doesn't have
the ability to be muhammed it's going to
be
what the Mishna is essentially saying is
is that even though we know there's a
that when it comes to of men the
that's only true if the tr itself is not
being or it's not being or it's not
being it's not doing its thing in this
right now then
if however it's doing its thing. I don't
care if you have 101. I don't care how
much you have. Is it's going to be
awesome. So where is of 101 where it's
neg is let's say it's not doing its
thing. It's not being it's not being you
can't taste it. Still there's you have
to have 101. And that's what we mean
when we say
you always go. If it's
quote unquote you're going to be and if
there's less than 101 of it, you're
always going to be mur. So check off any
one of these two boxes. Is it nice and
tan? If the answer is yes also if it's
not but it's less than 101 to one ratio
then it's also going to be problem
when we say when it comes to
sometimes it's sometimes it's what's the
case
and are two different
if it has ability to be
awesome Whether there's 101 or not 101,
as long as it it's nice and time, it's
going to be awesome.
Let's say it doesn't have the be nice
and then
it's going to be if it's nice and it's
always going to be I don't care what the
ratio is. If it's not nice and Tom, it's
always going to be I don't care what the
ratio is. This is a cool because over
here it's all cully in one thing. It's
not two boxes, it's one box. Is it nice
and Tom or is it not nice and Tom? the
ratio itself that I don't care about
which let's focus on the ka because
that's where the kilik is what emerges
is a tremendous ka and that is in the
event that it's not even if you have
less than 101 is going to be so by
if it's not and it's less than 101 it's
still going to be because there's one of
two ways for the tar is to beer either
by it being in which case even if it's
more than 101 or by it it being less
than 101 even if it's not but either one
of those are for it to be
because this is where is if it's less
than 101
and it's not it's still going to be when
it comes to the only thing I care about
is if it's so if you have a thousand but
it's going to be that's the bad news but
here's the good news if it's not even if
it's less than 101 it's going to be mus
again where's the between
is where it's less than 101 but it's not
still going to be because there's two
you have to have
in that situation it's going to be
either way this Mishna apparently has
something to do with
that the regular forget about the
regular
is 100 and Ravimi is the one that's
going to now present the Mishna and
explain by the way the reason it was
kadai to see this mission inside first
of all it's always kadai to precap
what's coming but also because as we're
about to see the gar is going to bring
this Mishna but first the safer then the
so you see the Mishna in an orderly
fashion it just again we say this a lot
the expects us to know the expects us to
know
the expects us to know right that's why
sometimes will bring up and sayu and the
punch line is from the you left out the
part of the no left out nothing
unfortunately we left out from our
learning knowing these him. But either
way,
he sat down and he sat over
this
and that is that thear
is
that true? You're telling me the she
ordinarily is 100 time
right? Sometimes you go, sometimes it's
when you go
and then the safer said what's the case
if grease and we'll cook together with
then it's always going to be if it's
the And
it's going to be says right up until now
we knew all this. This was the precap
is making a big is saying that even
though the says if it's not
is that it's going to be mut but for
sure there has to be some ratio of bet
right you would need at the very least
the regular sheer bal meaning
understands that what the mish is trying
to say is that truma has a unique sheer
bal 101 learn from what the Bishna is
saying is that when it comes to
there's a cool there's a and the cool is
that if it's physically not in time
right now so then I don't need the 101
say but if there's a regular sh a
universal share nothing to do with if
there's a
literally pun intended and we're dealing
with if there's a regular sh then for
sure you would have to have that share
right there's no question in the world
so what is essentially the mission is
saying, "Oh, you don't need that fancy
shear of 101." I mean, less than that
she is is going to be okay. Okay. So,
what's less than 101?
It's probably 60. Meaning, if the
regular share is, let's speak this out,
even though we're sort of giving it
away, 100. So, what you're telling me
you don't need 101, but you need 100?
It's like the same she
must be 60. A It's like a Mishna. You
don't need 101 but 60. Yeah. And for the
gar I hear be a little more gishmak the
delta between what you thought you
needed and what you do need would have
been much wider a bigger spread but at
the same time what we're saying is that
we ask ordinarily what's the sheer 101
when it comes to
over here you're not going to need the
shear of 101 what she will you need all
you will need is a shear of 100 because
ordinarily the shear according to is 100
and why Truma the shear is 101. That's a
that you need one more in order to be
you don't need it. By the way, you're
going to tell me is there such a
difference between 100 and 101? That's
we know you can't compare 100 to 101.
And forget that isn't the whole point
has this cool. You don't need 101. 100
of itself would be enough. But says the
ratio. Let's learn the ratio. What did
the ratio say?
The ratio
said that mayo have that when it comes
to as we'll see this year is 100 and if
that's the case could it be that safer
that the safest
says the meaning and being that that's
may be that the safer what does this
mean we learned in the ratio
This is the part of it that we need. If
there was not enough of 101, then
it's going to be what was the will you
go by? What's the case, right? Where's
the between
the cases where it's not but you have
less than uh 101 right that's uh where
the is when it comes to it's going to be
when it comes to it's going to be
because there's two ways for the to be
either it's or you have less than the
now if the
is1
again the gumar is assuming 101 and 100
are the same number which by the way the
first time the assumed that I could here
the second time I mean we already
mentioned
but the is going back and the is saying
that what is essentially the of the is
where it's you have to have 101 what's
the of
where it's you don't have to have 101
according to what do you have to have
you have to have 100 so the of is you
need 101 The cool of is that you only
need 100. That sounds like the same
thing to me. So says the if you're going
to tell me that the regular is so what's
the
you don't need 101, you need 60. What's
the need? That's very different. You
need 101. You need 60. That's the whole
point of the second.
But if you're going to tell me here you
need 101 what? You need 100. It's the
same thing to me.
You almost have to say that because the
whole point of being
is that here you go. Here you go. And
what's the 1% the only is one says yes
or no.
Yeah. That's the diff. The whole
difference is that one. It's one every
number, every inch, every centimeter
counts. And that is the when it comes to
if it's not you still need 101. And when
it comes to meaning where it's not
all you would need is 100 says the gumar
as a procript to this discussion it
comes out from here that you know just
from reading the Mishna what emerges is
that it's possible to have a taru where
you're going to have 101 times something
else and still the is going to be able
to be nois right for sure you see that
in Mishna you see that throughout the
Mishna right because the Mishna is
talking about where you don't have 101
but it's not or you have 101 and it is
nice and time and the Gmorra is about to
ask on that is it possible is it
possible to have a taris of two things
where you have 101 times one can the
other and that other the the minority is
still going to be nice and time now it's
an interesting uh discussion I hear
sounds like a good place to have it
right but the just from the flow of the
garra seems to be asking what it's about
to ask
from what we just learned and just to
speak out where you see that It seems
that Gumar was entertaining a
possibility that when we talk about 101
in the context of Truma, maybe it's
really 100, right? We made a big deal
about this as we went through the Gumar
101 100 it's uh it's one and the same.
Right? The MS is if you go through the
the sug
when we say trum 101 it doesn't mean you
need 101 times KGA the one. What it
means is you need 100 times the one. And
the number 101 is because when you the
together with the what you're gonna end
up with is is 101. But it's clearly
from the mas of the that's not the case
because according to is always 100 times
and is more than that.
So what's that number? It's a real 101.
And again is making this huge deal
between the of 100 and 101
says that when the Mishna was saying
that I could have the sh and still would
be nice and time if that was 100 I could
have lived with it but if the shar is
101 I actually can't live with it says
it's impossible it's impossible
that the should be able to be even if
there's 101 times conitive And the said
that um when this question was asked to
that's who the question was asked to
question again
and says over that the is 100 asks from
the what emerges from the is that it's
101 it's not 100i
that um so you're telling me that
something could be nice at 101 100 I can
live with but it could be nice even into
101 a malay so abaya because stumped say
you know let me defend you
maybe certain
yeasts are very sour right maybe that's
why it's called sour d but certain
yeasts are very sour so being that
they're very sour something that's that
is that has heavy in it so maybe over
there it is so powerful it's so potent
it has the ability to be nice and even
when you have a share of 101
You're right.
You just reminded me something
that when it comes to all these not
allus
are the same. I'll give you an example.
Take that's fish brine of a non-co
is close to 200. You see that has the
ability to be nice and even if you have
what's the
non-cos fish is
says
now there is a
is now if you do the math you do the
conversion process of
it's to 200 a little less than 200 so
you see clearly that it needs close to
200 so you see some things have the
ability to be nice and time Even if you
have a ridiculous amount
regarding the of Tommy Frank
parathetically did raud just say this
said that if you take sear of a dog to
and you mix it together with kosher fish
is there's a bit at alludas
is not really part and parcel of the
fish. It's the it's the sweat. It's it's
not something that's the punch line that
it's not. Therefore, it's not included
in regular of
either way. Going back to the Mishna.
So, the Mishna discussed, right? Why are
we talking about the sugu?
It's because the Mishna talked about the
gdasha
that was cooked together with the yak,
right? The gdash is in the thigh. So,
someone took the thigh, he cooked it
together with the g. So what does say
if it has ability to be it's going to be
awesome?
How are we right? What's the formula to
figure out if it's or not? The mission
gave us one bale. The way we do it is we
figure out
meaning we make believe that the gid was
baser and we make believe that the yerk
was lest turnips if it would be meaning
if you took this amount of baser and
that amount of turnips and it be then we
assume this was and if not we assume it
was not going to clarify this a little
bit better. He said
we don't just mean the turnip we mean
the top of the turnip. Rashi says that
the yerk of the lees is sweeter than the
rest of the lefes. And if that's the
case, being that it's sweeter, so it
would require more buser in order for it
to overwhelm it and in order for it to
be able to be nice and time. And as a
result, you have to not the boss of
being nice and into the entire lefice
but the sweeter part of the lef says the
one thing you see clearly in our Mishna
is that if you cook the together with
the you're going to have yourself
a little bit of a problem, right? That's
why you have to make sure you have the
right
said that gidden are not
to get you can't be nice and so who
cares that you cooked it together. Just
remove the g and you don't have to worry
about cuz it's
hold
and was sitting on the at the right he
was at the entrance way he was at the
door of whereino
lift kic
when this person left
told the person my he said I'm curious I
saw you holding a tel and obviously want
to know if is it is it kosher is it not
kosher what did he tell you
he said he told me that it's mut now it
seems that this tapel was
this person was this and this was his
real life story so he comes out and he
tells that told me it's
no maybe you didn't understand what do
you mean it's enough go back and tell
him exactly what you
So when he went back in,
who's this person who's driving me
crazy,
go tell this person who's sitting at the
door
that do not have the ability to be and
that
so it's for that reason even though I
know it's
and I hold another
when people would come to and they would
ask him such a sh with the whole was
cooked together which get so
he would say I don't want to ask in the
sh I'd rather you go to
my
bas
is the one that holds
but I myself don't hold that way so this
is so someone's coming to he's asking
what was the shil the was in together
with the raami holds it it's but he
knows there are those that hold that
because
so am could have said
but he knew that there are people that
are and he was of those that were say so
he would say go to
I think you should ask him the sh cuz
he'll give you one he'll give you a good
I can't ask in that way because I I
don't have that I hold but he has a and
he's a go at him right so imagine you
ask who's a and being he says you
who's a big maker. That's exactly what
did and so you want to know what is
exhale.
So
the sugis over here of that we're going
through way way way too even if we did a
few raid bites it would be too fast. So
uh we're going through this way too
quickly. So I just thought that as it
relates to raid just to lighten up the
dolphin a little bit to speak out a uh
nifla
from the bish of
hi
margles and this is from hiser
now why we going to speak out now from
that safer it's like speak out for my
goals. I don't think we need an excuse
stating that few days ago we had I think
it was on Vog the Gmorra mentioned a Yid
by the name of Barbuli Barpuli was
removing the Gdan and he was doing it in
the presence of the great amra and gave
him a little muster and he got so scared
that he dropped his knife but there was
a man who name was Baruli and in
Marola says take a look at what I wrote
in my safe for the shame
And on page al I give a shout out to and
I say something about his name. So
taking the lead of we're going to go
through a little bit the beginning of
the
specifically chapter one and that's
called
pseudonyms in the tal. What's a
pseudonym? A pseudonym is like a
nickname, a pen name, uh not real name
that sometimes was used. And Margolus
has a how you find that there were
different tan and that are mentioned in
shas who were known not by their real
name but rather by some sort of
pseudonym. Truth is this is something
that over the years we've talked about
it's scattered in in some of the rabbits
and really the
to this is
from
and this is the way
starts his just going to read the first
paragraph
says I found
that there are many whose name is
mentioned very infrequently in
maybe this uh
had one that is attributed to him maybe
it's not even it's yet
he was known in my opinion by a name
that's associated with that he saidd
this is very famous. He says there's a
his name was
he's mentioned in
the mission over there says that if
somebody's walking in the street and he
saw
he saw three coins that were stacked one
on top of the other. So
you can't keep them at bay even though
you know is you're allowed to keep
that's from the but if you saw them
stacked then is not
saidd
the only time this is true is if they
were stacked like a migdal they were
stacked like a tower says
that his name wasdah what kind of name
is migdalah never heard so he says let's
be honest it's probably because of
thisdah
said aboved
and that's probably why he was known BY
THAT NAME IT'S A PSEUDONYM IT'S NOT his
real name it wasn't at the br where they
said
That's probably not what it was, but
rather it was
that he said and he became known based
on this.
He said who name was and he said it's
because he's the one that said
smelled he had that was coming from him.
He wasn't.
So too, if you have someone who's mis
somebody that smells, he would not be
allowed to lead the benching
is the one that said regarding
he was known as because he's the author
of this. He said I found another
he's mentioned in
you know what he says in
he turns to and he asks what would be if
somebody says
and then another person would say me too
now specifically the case was where he
said
and the other person went and he said me
too what's did he mean to be nazirus as
well when that person has a child or
maybe when I have a child. Maybe what he
meant to say was
you're so excited. You want to have this
child so badly. You're even making
I'm telling when you have this child.
I'm going to love this child like it's
my own. I'm gonna take care of this
child. Beni is mentioned one place in it
was where someone asks uh where somebody
said
and the other person said DOES HE MEAN
HE WAS THE ONE WHO ASKED that's why he
was known as
says it's a to bring us at a time with
said that it says in
I never heard of and the one thing he
ever said in his life was
the only thing that's mentioned over
here in I should say is
so
is it a coincidence that he became known
as not the regular
probably because it is that he said
either way he con concludes and he says
I have many more such examples
There's no one ever who had this
pun intended because it comes from was
mentioned in the makam that I'm the one
that brought this in to the world that
sometimes you have this connection
between a and that he said in he's known
by that name not because that was his
real name but that's his pseudonym so to
speak that's his alias and he gets known
as The he saidd
was mentioned
who's the one that said
does he mean
who's mentioned the first of inill
fews first of all said there was no one
before him that ever had this he said
that if you take a look at one of the
commentaries on the that was written by
Ramos Narvi lived in the 14th century he
was a super commentary on the and this
is a paras he makes this observation and
he's mafaling it a little bit that's 500
years before he says not just that the
take a look under
says the he was called because he said
one
regarding the l
and and that's why he's known as and he
says by the way I found it in the as
well this is 100 years or so before
regarding the
why was it because
he said regarding one of the that are
mentioned in the
but the bottom line is that I'm the
first one that says
it's not I found it by in his I found it
in the and I found it already in the
again not but they all were already this
is not the really
he continues and he says that really
after I've seen other people work with
this as well and says I have to be
honest with you I'm not masking to some
of the things I said I saw he quotes
from a s called this is a a pish that
was written on the adus it was printed
one time in vilma in the year trees,
right? It's fun when you have a
photographic memory. But the bottom line
is it was printed one time in TR
in the in the town of VNA and he said
that Yid went and he said he was
mammish. He was mafing this Indian in an
incredible way. He went so far as to say
that he believes Rabim Ben Lish. That's
a funny name Lish. What kind of name is
Lish? Said I think Rabim Ben Lish gets
known as Rabim Ben Lish. Not because his
father's name was Lish. I don't think
that's the reason I think the reason
he's known as
is because of the is
and over there is talking about when
love made his business deal with we went
through that business deal if you
remember
went through it and they had a deal I'm
going to get this and you're going to
get that and
what exactly the deal was
going to get the older ones
was going to get theas the lishes. He
was going to get the later ones. So this
said that to me this whole name luckish
I always found to be interesting and I
think that the reason he was called
luckish is HE'S A BENISH BASED ON THIS
MEMBER that he said in
now it's good
to this but to say he was known by that
this was his that he said he went a
little bit further he said we're
familiar with
he said I think was called because his
father's name was Mam I never heard a
name maml who's maml mamal right who's
maml he said I think the reason it's
called mam is based on a
is discussing if somebody sells a bab
what's included what's not included and
one of thinks that's included is the
maml and the says my who answered the
question
said I'll tell you what a mam is so this
said that I think the reason is called
mam is based on this so a rumor my goal.
This is one we we have to slow down a
little bit. He said he found one mera
that one Ammyra who's mentioned 4,000
times in J and has something to do with
you can't the whole thesis is is that
is not a frequently mentioned
and based on that it's maybe to sayd is
called based on the fact that he said
this
is are compelling
is called based on this one of of this
memory that he said Lisha he said way
too hard for me to understand that he
said besides what about Rab Yehuda
Benish who's mentioned in Shabasim
and Nuniml right forgot about him he's
also called Ben Lish where you have a
member that he want her says there's
something being you could be a Ben
luckish and that's why he was called Ben
Luckish now Margar is stating that I'm
going to be might have been mix to this
yet cuz I agree the name Lish I don't
think is a real name again we're going
to take Reub Margaros's word for it.
That's usually our policy when it comes
to this, right? So, you know, the
expression is you pick on someone your
own size. So, I'm going to take Rab
Maros's word, but the bottom line is
says I'll be mix. To me, the name Lish
is a little bit of a funny name, but I
don't think he's called Lockish because
of that. First of all, it can't be
that's one out of thousand hundreds
thousands of memories of Rashkish. And
he says besides, but what about Rabud
Lish? He said, well, I'll tell you what
I think. I think there was a city that
was known as Lish. And he was known as
Ben Lish not because his father's name
was Lish but
and he says by the way
that I found Margalus in this in a safe
how's this for who brings from Berlin
the great
Berlin right the most often quoted
that Berlin was bothered he said how did
Malikish become rakish you ever think
about that how How did he become rakish
mean
became rakish
zak is known as ra zak what does that
mean ra
it's like it's short it's abbreviated
for right why is he called rakish says
rag I don't think it's raik to say and
this I actually believe that he says
that there was a city called lish and
esg
of lish and that's why he was known as
lish and he said don't make from this
because I saw those brings
dedicated his whole life to this heined
very much and he did not know why was
known as Rakish he wasn't simply happy
there is like the
there is no person Lish but he was from
the city of Lish and he was also the
head of Lish by the way bin Lish also
came from Lish but he wasn't rakish
because he was never the muras but the
bottom line is Lish comes from Lish and
he's known as raish because he's the he
says as it relates to maml
I'll be honest with you I hear the
horror as well I don't think that's a
name I don't think maml is a name the
problem is to say that is known as mam
because of what he said in regarding
someone that tells
it's impossible right
it's just not it doesn't even get on the
first base in it's not possible, right?
can't even be besides
we found.
So there's three more mammals that never
said a word about the mamlik
not I'll shame that father was maml
because I agree I I never heard of a
name mam I'll al shame and by the way
you're not sure if there's a place
called
that talks about the base I'll tell you
even more than that there's a
said that's probably what it was it was
the city that's known
And that's who all these mamles are.
But the bottom line is to say this about
and to say this about this is already uh
this is already pushing it. I think this
is too
says I think evendah
which is ground zero. This is the one
everyone knows that ground zero form
even that I think is I think it's and
the reason is because is mentioned in
other places in as well he's mentioned
and in other places as well
you can tell me where's migdalah
This is before right
by the way there was another whose name
wasdah
he didn't say anything about
and by the way he's mentioned
and embraces per why is he known as
migdalah the ter is
lish
and
giving and giving I agree with the
thesis says I think it's fantastic and
it's not
goes back already to in his classic
commentary on the but at the same time
but at the same time he says I think
which is the starting point for all of
this I don't even think that's right and
certainly
that's way way way way beyond the scope
says
I'm going to give you my own list. Let
me give you my list who I think is
mentioned in your midashim who I think
these are not real names but these are
the synonyms
his by the way is he says you know so
you need a license to say this sometimes
right even wrote a safe which we talk
about all the he has a 50page before he
wrote it because you can even write
something like this so you need a
license if you're ever going to do
something like this and his license is
talks about the great and the says
boon. Yeah, his name was boon.
So I was called
because of the that happened with the
with the son and the deal and the bad
remember
that incredible incredible
but the bottom line is is that his name
wasn't his name was so why they call
and he says it's interesting by the way
ever make this observation all the had
nicknames all the
I don't know if this is because they
have aliases, but the bottom line is all
these super rich guys. No, none of them
were known by their regular name. They
all had pseudonyms. But either way,
but you want a license to say
name is boon
we he's known as because of something
that happened to him. So there could be
a musk that somebody would be known by a
name because of something because of
something that not happened to him
because of something that he said. So
here's a a very abre the list is close
to 40 names. This is classic some of
them are not I'll just mention a few he
does it in alphabetical order.
This is number three. Remember I is
mentioned in one place in
one
a person can make it tonight regarding
he's mentioned
right. So a person let's say heard that
is going to be coming to he's not sure
and he wants to make to be able to go
here this year. Problem is he doesn't
know which way to make. So with the
braer he could do it says
the even though it says you could do
such a thing it's wrong
you can't make one of these
this is the only that I said in
Right.
He said you have to figure out
you have to figure out where the is. So
that's why right why is he calling him
an alm because we don't know his real
name. So he's the whose name we don't
know. HE GETS KNOWN AS WHAT? HE GETS
KNOWN as it's because he's the one that
said you HAVE TO KNOW. YOU HAVE to know
if he's coming to the mid or coming to
the mar. Here's another one.
Our favorite of all time, right?
So why was Ila known as? He says I don't
know if was his real name. I'm says when
came back to this medish, right? So he
saw became the rashiva and Ilfa said
that had I stayed in yeshiva I'm telling
you I would have been the rasha as a
matter well that they told him and so he
said really you're telling me that I'm
less than ask me any kasha ask me
anything show me a if I can't be pion
from a mishna you'll see what's going to
happen so he went
he suspended himself from the mast of a
ship and he said that if I can't figure
one old person took him a little too
literally he says
you know what's the about this and that
he said
an in Aramaic is a ship he says I think
he became known as ilah because of this
incredible story it's a real story
where he makes this grand spectacle he
says that's how he became known as
because of that but that's not really
what his name was he says
the more they discuss if somebody asks
an advice and he gives him the right
advice he gives him the wrong advice.
So, uh there's a whole sugara tells a
story that somebody went to Danka and
Iser. These were two money changers. One
was Danka, the other one was Iser. And
they asked him something and he gave
them the wrong advice and the was that
they were off the hook. He says
interesting that money changers would be
known as Danka and Iser, right? What a
what's a danka in Aramaic? Money. What's
an isser? It's money. He said, I'm
assuming they were called danka is
because this was their gashef. They were
money changers. He says, "By the way, if
that's the case,
that mentions one time in."
And you know what the says? He had
12,000 and he had it by you have a guy
whose name is is and
this is 12,000 the is his first name was
cash right
this is his name. So the bottom of
literally cash by the way this is what
he's and as a result he became known as
this is how he's known for all for all
generations.
You ever hear this name two places in
he's also mentioned in
funny name says a rumor goes pure to me
why he's called
this is this is one nobody would ever
get. He says push it to me. He said
because if you look at that he said he's
talking about of
walls right so if you have two I can't
make my wall too close to your wall it's
discussing is related to walls the says
in Ezra this is pervas
so this is in the first year of the
reign of the king kish cyus the great
kish mala sum to aim so kish the king he
issues a decree an edict basil
I want the bd to be built.
The the
city where the is and carbon is going to
be brought the mizen and the walls are
going to be founded.
It should be 60 tall.
XL
I want the walls to be made up of rows
rows of stone three stones on each row.
The word
means wall and the world word means
wall. These are very Aramaic words over
here invo
means wall and means wall. Ashad who
said two is one of them is regarding you
ever heard a name like Ashad said it's
posit because he said regarding walls
and knew these Ezra that talk about and
they knew that is a wall and is a wall
and that's how he became known as that
name Benbach this is another famous one
right why was Bagbach called Benbag
said Bagbach and Benhei were both the
same person righthe are both the same
person and they're both Ben Grim and
what what Shikh is because B giml is
five and he is also five and we know
that Aram got the he and S got the hey
and being that Aram and S both got the
H. So that's why they become known as
Benbagbag and Behei. Incidentally Rab
Margola says that he always thought that
I don't know if Ben Bagbag was really a
a G but it could be Ben Bagbag was
called Benbagbag because he's the son of
a G. In fact, bag is Ben Garus.
Says it could be his father was a G and
his mother was a guaras and he's known
as Ben Bagbag. Bag means Bengurus. He
says if that's the case, it would open
up a little bit of our mind because in
Shabas Gim there's a Tan who's known as
Yehuda Bengrim is Yehuda Bengrim. He
said I also found in Yuma
someone whose name is Yehuda Bengor.
How's that for her name? Yehuda Ben
Gregor. He said I think Yehuda Bengor is
the same name. Ben Garam is like Ben
Bagbback. His father's a Gar, his
mother's a Gar. Hence, he's Ben Garam.
And Ben Groas is the same thing. It's
Ben Viguas. Hence, you end up with a
name like like Benus. Here's another
one. There's someone that's mentioned
one time in his name is Ben Shalus.
That's his name. Ben Shalus. He's
mentioned
over there says
so we know is allowed to do up until
what point is allowed to do so
until
that's the point that she's allowed to
do it over there says
when I went to Rabaka said
I don't agree with this and
I never heard of Benalus so my goals
Rabaka already was ever heard named Ben
Shalus? He says, "I don't think his name
was really Ben Shalus. I don't think his
name was Ben Shalus." He said, "Take a
look at the
it says
and the Rambam says in what does it mean
when it develops here?" the word could
mean here and that's why he was called
benchus because there's one from him and
is a cyrus harbe and that's where I
never heard of bench cuz that wasn't his
real name this was a pseudonym and he's
called this name because this is the one
this is the one
that he said this goes on and on and on
he talks about
who was a
that we say he was
he once talked very shares
And he became
right. He he was physically he was
physically harmed. Why was he called
Benisi? He says maybe because the medum
says that one of the wasi Benusi and
Benusi says that was clapp
when he he was at Milo something bad
went up to Shamay. So Beni who did what
Gadi Benusi did and that it was clappy
Milo. So it's for that reason he too
became known as that. One last one he
says you know the great is known
sometimes as what
he says if you take a look at Rashi in
Sanf
Rash is why he was known as he brings
two shot him one shot is he says because
his father was a a blacksmith and a
blacksmith that's why some he's known as
barafa then he says another shot is
because he was very handsome and nafka
has something to do with being handsome
so it says ru margles being that rashi
said two shot him so it's clear rashi
didn't have
So if you could say two I could already
say a third and he says maybe because
discussing that we know ordinarily on
his one of the exceptions is
he said it's talking about a certain
type of where it was done by a
blacksmith
he said I had to be the real in when
Is it it's
Margolus? I know this is going to
undermine a little bit what I said
earlier. That's someone who we have
hundreds or if not thousands of
mentioned in there's no way there's one
member that he said that's going to be a
a guiloy and why he was called by why he
was called. That's why we knocked out
in the beginning of this rabbi. He said,
"But this line, I've never seen a line
like this in my life."
in the time
was so happy with the that he had to be
that he said
who knows if that's not why sometime not
always it's usually just the great that
maybe sometimes he would become known he
would become known as
again if Rashi I wouldn't say anything
but Rashi himself was already unsure
already Rashi saying maybe already you
can Go ahead and you could say a third.
But the bottom line is what began with a
thesis for he says with regards to
and we mentioned that
he said it say
others said it regarding which says I
can't even fathom but went through he
went through a list of close to 40
and
oh by the way we left that we left out
the main one right we said there was
bari in so why is baruli called barpuli
because you know what it means to do a
mice appeal it means to be a maner says
that's why he was called barpuli why
else would he been known as barpuli
because this was his f this is what he
used to do for a living and it's for
that reason that this is what uh he was
known by and that's why he was known as
ra puli but the bottom line is he says
if you look around I found close to 40
different times where it's to me that
the pseudonym that he got was based on
this is chapter one in the
chapter two he goes in a little bit of a
different angle he says I found another
thing and this he says I found countless
times he says literally countless
countless times and that is you find
sometimes with
would say
that had something to do with their name
he They're not called by the name
because of what they said, but because
goes the other way around. It's a
chicken and an egg. It's because of
their name. They had a and he goes
through just giving examples one after
another. He starts from he does a he was
super methodical, right? Just to mention
a few.
It's not a coincidence.
You ever see him again?
He said, uh, take a look at
said
that's not that's not a right. That's
not a coincidence. He says,
he just said something about what's your
name. Oh, my name is Shman. That's my
name. I don't think it's a coincidence.
He said
he said he said it in three places in
Shabas
coming up. He said you know it's the
only three places in that you find the
all three times I don't think it's aesh.
How about
what about
we've mentioned this in the past?
He said by the way you know how many
times talks about the region Yehuda. So
why is not talking about the gal? Why is
he talking about Yehuda? He said his
name was Yehud.
talking about.
This is this is you get the thing,
right? This just goes on and on and on.
The sheer brilliance of of putting
together a piece like this is just not
nea. It's just not just reminds you of
how
the bra the kite of of the there's so
many that you can open where you see the
is something that was
in such an incredible way but either way
why we talk about this in like I said
excuse because bari was mentioned invar
has him in his list of top 40 pseudonyms
In chass he was known as Barbuli because
he was a manacer.