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Today's
and we are 15 lines from the bottom of
being learned as
so we're moving along mostly from the
13th cycle in
discussing the
of the hanosha says the
Omaritzkar
Rabitzk the son of Schmool who was the
son of Mara who was also a Rav said in
the name of his great rabbi
the Tyra when it forbade the giddasha
only forbade the what does this mean? So
Rashi says that the girhanosha the
sciatic nerve has little nerves that
branch out from it and they enter the
buser that's surrounding that area. The
ganosha itself rah held was not user and
the reason is because it's an we seen
already there's an opinion amongst the
tan that
it doesn't taste like anything and as a
result it doesn't make sense that the
would have made a big deal about not
eating something that frankly doesn't
even have any taste. What then did the
Torah mean when it said you're not going
to eat? It meant these little nerves
that branch out. They do have taste and
it's that said that the so is saying
number one is but number two
it's only because the kid itself is
going to be said I disagree
even though it's true it might taste
like a piece of wood but at the end of
the day the terra said it's terra said
it's going to be the iser is not the
what is the iser it's the actual
said
it's actually
like why
said in the name
the
that are in the Rashi says that we're
talking specifically about the that's on
the KV and the that are on the we'll see
more about what that means in in a
moment
is that they're however
but at the same time one is not going to
be if he eats them. So we know if
somebody eats
said in the name of that the these
nerves that are inside the they're not
the proper the is they're but they're
not what does it mean they're but
they're not going to come with it means
they're not
what are they they're only but here's
the point
you see when it says in the
what it means is to eat the actual.
However
something
makes sense
when the Torah says what it means is to
get itself
themselves are going to be
so they're going to be so I have a
precedent from just like it's the but in
the so must be that it's the not the not
the
I the
tastes like nothing. It's it is what it
is.
The end of the day, it's going to be.
So, we have a pretty fundamental is
between Rav and as it relates to the is
of according to Rav, it's only the
but the G itself is not. According to
it's just the opposite. It's only the G
that's themselves
are going to be M. Why did we just
mention because said I have a or at the
very least
I think logically it makes sense what is
saying based on a precedent which is in
the par of either way we just mentioned
and the gumar is going to do what it
very often does and that is digress and
we're going to turn our attention from
the ganosha for the next or so of and
we're going to talk about the now the
and the ganosha are very much
they're both parts of a kosher animal
that had a but at the same time
is a lot more than the somebody eats
in addition to being if somebody eats
the gasha it's just a good oldfashioned
loas but what they have in common is
again they're parts of a kosher animal
that had a kosher but at the same time
they themselves are very very much
forbidden for a jut. Now as a little bit
of a hak to the next part of gummor that
we are going to learn we just have to
so again thera says that even if you
have a kosher animal that had a kosher
but the of the animal what's the English
definition of the word fats does that
mean all fat of an animal you've had a
piece of meat that had fat on it the
answer of course is no there are fats
that are kosher Sure, there are fats
that are not kosher.
Is a term that's used to describe the
non-cooser fats. The Aramaic word to
describe the kosher fats is shum. That's
why in shas you find the idea where the
and the
because you have fats all looks the same
to us and some of it is kosher and some
of it is the worst of the worst. If you
eat it, it's like you ate. If you eat
it, it's like you ate. It's literally on
the level of in fact just to bring out
this point a little bit better if
somebody eats
he would have to bring a carbon because
being that if somebody eats it so it's
you would have to bring a carbonas the
very often in Jas is referred to as the
and the reason is because the most
common that was brought was a katas that
was brought for someone that
accidentally ate
very easy to visualize. You're preparing
your animal. Within the animal, there
are fats, we'll see how nuanced it is in
a second, that if you eat isus, and then
there are fats that you're supposed to
eat. So it's very common that perhaps
somebody would go and he would make a
mistake and he would confuse his and his
fact this was the most common example of
someone that ever had to bring a
carbonas this is what the analytics
teach us this is actually what the teach
us but the bottom line is that's why
very often the carbonas was referred to
as the okay so which are included inv
that are very very so here's The short
answer any part of fat that if the
animal was kin you would have to be them
on the
those are the if the behem is and you're
eating if you eat you would be any part
of the fats of an animal where it was
kim it would not have gone in the m
that's the you would be allowed to eat
in fact the reason that it's so to eat
is because is supposed to be albeit when
it's kach and it's for that reason if
you go ahead and you eat you're almost
eating eating something that really
doesn't belong to you it's for that
reason it's going to so the shortest
answer to which are user and
is take a look in open up a parish see
which went on those are the ones that
are user
the ones that didn't go on the are going
to be okay okay So now here's the
follow-up question. Very natural
follow-up question. Which fats actually
went on the So if you open up it's
incidentally
starts with the carbon oil. Carbon
doesn't talk about and the reason is
because all the buser of the you don't
have to distinguish between this buser
that buser this
that the next carbon that's discussed is
the carbon. The carbon didn't have any
and it was carbs. The first carbon where
it's ne to talk about and where it's to
start getting nittygritty is the third
carbon that's discussed in the carbon.
Hence it's parag. Either way, the Pik
says
that covers the very loosely translated
the inards of the animal.
Not just the that's the car, but all the
that's on top of the car. There's this
distinction between the that's the car
and the that's on the car. clo the two
kidneys
and the here's another set of that
covers the kidneys
and the that's on top of the flankish
either way we're not butchers or the son
of butchers the quote in today's as
we're going to see and as a result it's
hard to know exactly what this all means
but the bottom line is the does uh
detail
in some way what went on the
said that if somebody eats it's going to
be either way a little bit of a wordy
introduction and on that note we have a
whole lot now that are going to talk
about things that maybe technically are
above our pay grade but at the same time
very much related to of says
so why are we talking about because we
just mentioned
who said regarding the why' we say that
cuz
to the very critical is between in the
world of so we're going to now digress a
little bit talk about that related to
and from there we'll continue doing what
we do so again what did Rash say in the
name of
the that are in the and Rashi said that
it's talking specifically about the
that's on the KV and the that's on Those
were two of the that were mentioned that
we just said
but at the same time one would not be
which means
are not really considered it's only that
they consider
the
that's on top of the kidney
are and here too and I'll lay it one is
not going to be because again it's the
but that are in the are not going to be
what about the white in the kidney. So
the kidney, there's a picture in Savar
has a a cavity inside and that cavity is
filled with something that looks white.
Those are fats. Now those fats are
interesting because those fats are in
the kidney. It's not on the kidney. It's
not covering the kidney, but it's in the
cavity of the actual kidney. Hence, it's
its own little subcategory. So what
about the which we know is is it
was once said it's going to be the other
one said
that as it relates to how we pass. So
there was
when he would sh an animal. So he would
Rashi says means to be mish he would
root out all the white inside the kya
because he held like the heel like the
mother holds like did the same thing.
Raasi raasi would just trim off the fats
from the top but whatever was inside the
cavity he would leave there because he
held the of the kuya. He held those fats
are actually mut. So again we don't know
who said what and
there we do know who said what
was he was
said
by the way notice this right so
sometimes when you're trying to fi
follow the paper trail of garra and
understand why the garra digress so
said in the previous
regarding of and
regarding the oh you mentioned the let's
talk more about the but when you go
through the you see no there's probably
a little more to the methodology of why
we're digressing because here in the
discussion of the
says the same words he said in the first
over here it's actually like again what
do he was gone he held that the is
really it's only what's on top it's why
Raashmaba
said in the name of Raud who said in the
name of
the Rashi says of the of the flanking
that's covered by baser mut is going to
be mut. So there's certain that the
buser covers. So usually you think of
the fats as covering the baser. But if
there's that the buser covers so it's
considered part of theer and therefore
it's going to be
this is something that's going to be
what do I see from what
in the name of
So when the Torah says the that's on is
going to be it's only the that's on
but not the that's being that this is
sandwiched in I look at it
not well if that's the case there I
think so too as it relates to the
says I'm referring to the referring to
the kidneys
that's on top of the
asosed to the ones that are inside the
so the bottom line is said it's like
and the reason is because it's only the
that's
you know how I know that I know that
from the
because I know the ones that the buses
is actually so is also too as it relates
to the kidney if it's in the kidney it's
mut it's part of the boser just because
it's the that in of itself doesn't make
iter this is so cricket. It's only asser
if it's literally covering the baser.
But to the extent you can view it as
being part of the baser itself even
though it's the same exact as the one
that's on the buser it tastes the same.
I don't care if it's sandwiched in the
baser it's nar with the baser it becomes
baser. If it's on top of the that's when
we're having this conversation says the
so we just mentioned whereab the
neighbor in the name of regarding the
it's going to be
is that true could
really have said that
same formulation of the following
the fats that are underneath the loins
of the animal asser is asser now that
fat is covered by buser the buser of the
loins of the mim in Hebrew covers it so
if that's the case
how could it be that
would say that
and then in the same breath say
is covered by
He is the in today's like he is in
almost every
the
is actually not considered or the that's
underneath the is actually not
considered.
And the reason is because although when
you flay the animal, you chop it up at
that point the
that's underneath the masim is going to
be covered but while the animal's alive
there are times that it's not covered
and that is when the animal walks. So
when the animal walks so thearim
they contract and then they you know
spread apart come back together and
during that time there is a point where
the bus that's underneath the is
actually exposed that at that point the
is exposed so it's considered not
and that's going to be enough for it to
be so the only time is considered
that's if it's always covered even when
it's alive. But if there are moments of
time while the animal's alive, while
it's walking, while it's galloping, it's
running. I don't know. There is a time
where right now this is exposed, that's
enough for it to not be considered
and that's enough to make it. And that's
exactly what the is of
says. And by the way, if you want
support to this, and this is the one
line of today's that I think we can all
very much relate to.
I'm not a butcher and I'm not the son of
a butcher. Stating that I do remember
I remember that this question was posed
in and they said
this was exact terret that they said
I'm being honest with you this is
outside of my lane. It's above my pay
grade. I'm not talking because I really
100% understand what I'm saying but I do
remember hearing this in a share. So I'm
just saying over the bottom line is what
said really comes it trace itself back
to the great and it says another
said we just said two but another that
he said regarding
the that's on top of the
are two of the four stomachs of the
animal of fame
and if somebody eats that's another way
of saying that it's not only but
This this is what the Tyra means when it
talks about the which was put on the
that's on top of the he and the that's
on top of the
the fat that's on top of the so what's
the so if you take a look at Rashi
add some cotton it's a small bone
So this is a bone that's on the bottom
of the vertebrae of the animal. It's
very close to the alia which is the tail
of and there's a little bit of fat on
top of it and that's the
is also
of and this is the
speak out that this is not all the
is the flankish of the animal. So it
covers a much wider area but this is
included in the of
that he said
over here as we'll see is referring to
the blood vessels that are in the hand.
Rashi says it doesn't mean hand it means
the shoulder and are going to be. So the
blood vessels in the shoulder of the
animal are going to be
and he said
he said
but he didn't refer to him as he said
the said don't what's going there's no
fats over there there's nothing there so
why in the world should the in the
shoulder be a problem turned to and he
said oh you call me Misha I'll call you
Misha
we'll find out who really is the
terrorist allows you to eat blood now
let it eat blood in other words what was
saying was that the reason said that the
in the shoulder is not because of
there's no over there but it's the blood
vessel those are the and the blood
vessel has what inside of it um blood
and because it has blood and the says
you're not allowed to eat blood it's for
that reason it's going to be a problem.
It's true. The buser is not an issue.
The doesn't allow you to eat. Now said,
I'll tell you this
because if you're going to cut it and
you're going to salt it, then it's going
to remove the dam, right? We know
salting the meat of an animal removes
the blood and
at that point if you're going to want to
throw it into it's uh going to be okay.
Now there is a discussion in the we're
not learning the malik even though malik
is going to come up a few more times in
today's d but it seems that because of
this blood vessel so we assume there's
more blood there than there usually
would be inside an animal and it's for
that reason it's not enough to just salt
it you would have to be first first you
would have to chop it up then you would
salt it and that would allow the blood
to come out and if you do that you could
even throw into there's another
discussion in the what if you're not
throwing it into what if you're going to
roast it again this is something we'll
see in the in a minute that sle roasting
meat extracts more from the meat than
simply putting it in a pot and throwing
it into a chicken soup. So being that
slee extracts more even though the garra
says but it could be that's only
necessary if you want to throw into a
but if you're going to be silent maybe
not again all discussions in the all
beyond the scope of what we need for
today's but either way this is another
said but this one was a little bit of a
curveball because this wasn't related to
this was actually related to what was
this the blood vessels in the shoulder
of the animal are going to be now One
interesting sidebar that emerged from
this is
and he reacted to the told to him and he
said and says you want to know who is
you're the meaning
and there's other garas for this where
you find that sometimes would talk to
each other and they would refer to the
respective alpa in a rather respectful
way and they would call them by a name.
The name was Mosha. We once hypothesized
out loud that maybe the reason you don't
find anywhere in the Gmorra, which is
mindboggling or in Tanakh by the way
that anybody other than Moshu Rabenu was
called Mosha, right? So again, we have
so many raikites over the years about
names. Names that once upon a time were
given that somehow uh along the way they
put a moratorium on. For example, Yesh,
right? Ishmile is the perfect that's
everyone's first example of that. But
what about names in the reverse that
today are so common that once upon a
time nobody gave Mosha is is the best
name for that right you know it says on
the Ram's cave mesh like come to Mosha I
don't even know if there was a moa moa
right I mean there was but the point is
is that really people didn't give the
name Mosha and the question is what once
thought that it sounds a little bit from
these guras that you had to earn the
name you don't become your might that's
wishful thinking should be that
Yeah, of course.
Z, we get all that. But at the same
time, it seems like once upon a time,
you had to earn the title. Oh, tells
you're a rightafra who we know we have a
rabbite about this from that he used to
write that's why he was called. Anyways,
the bottom line is
you have a lot of together said in the
name of so now
this is
no.
So the beginning of the may this is the
beginning of the digestive uh system of
the animal. How beginning the that first
of length requires giraves
one to go ahead and shave off and to cut
off all the fats of this is the
who said anything about we didn't have
it in the that we mentioned it earlier
so what is
sends us back to where it was
saying he's picking sides he's saying
is
sets again. We had
then we had
and then we had it's a lot of fun when
you tune in to the names because as we
like to say the names matter but any
either way
the
of the soin are nerves the is the hip
is they are going to be the reason
they're is because they're imshed in the
and uh those things are going to be. Now
we already mentioned earlier that the
are in the are not
right we had the
that was on the
that's on the on the on the and we said
specifically it's the that's awesome but
the that's inside of is not going to be.
So presumably in the same vein and
if you go
speaks out that these is the same thing
they're going to be but only
because it's only
the inside of it are not but either way
this is the
are part of the fats but they're of the
fats and it's for that reason they're
only it says the a little bit of science
as relates to the kafla the flankish. So
there are fivein
that are there in other words the branch
off into the flanken of the animal and
in total there's five of them. So again
these are really called it's not a new
it's these that we just mentioned a
second ago. The reason we're calling
them
is because they go from the into the
flank. But the bottom line is
five plus there's three on the right
side of the shed
and there's two on the left side of the
spine plus the three that are on the
right
t. So each one of the three branch off
into two sub muscles sub nerves
and the two on the left each one branch
into three.
Why do you have to know all this?
Because if the after he shacks the
animal, he immediately pulls it out,
man, you wouldn't even have to know. All
you would have to know is is that
you it would slide right out if you did
it immediately after the it's going to
be okay. But for but if you don't do it
immediately afterwards then you have to
go find it, right? So then the search is
on and therefore you have to know the
mats of it. This is three that branches
to two. This is two that branches into
three. By the way, they're both six,
right? Three into two, two and three is
you end up with the same number. But the
bottom is you have to know the because
you have to know what you're looking
for. So it seems right after they sh the
animal, the animal's hot, right? We know
about that from all the sug from the
beginning of the
So the animal's hot and therefore a lot
of these things are easy to just get
out. But once you let it cool off and
things start congealing and it gets
really messy and ugly and at that point
it's much harder to get it out. So
therefore the Gar felt felt that he
needed to tell us this mitas that you
have to know on the right side of the
shed there's three each one branches off
into two on the left side there's two
each one branches off into three because
if you're not going to slide it out
seamlessly then you're going to have to
surgically remove it and you have to
know what it is you're going
say
it's a lot of in today's a lot of in
today's we're not sure is it or is it
have There are five parts of the animal
with related to these and um I'm going
to tell you what these five places are
and what the are plus three of the of
these are related. So you have inside
the you have these
and two of them is related to that. So
you have again this but inside the bus
there are now the
are
muscles nerves the that the blood is an
issue are blood vessels. We're using the
same word to describe both. So what's a
right is a a thread but
didn't have these medical words to
describe the difference between a muscle
and a blood vessel. They're all sort of
right. They look a little bit likein but
the point is and that's what is trying
to say there's fivein but three of them
are related things and two of them are
dam related things. Okay. So which ones
are the which ones are the dam the
are inside the is the spleen the capley
are the flankin and the are the kidneys
these are all related the
as opposed to the that are inside the
hand that's the shoulder that we saw
earlier or that's on the jaw of the
animal they're related to that does it
make a difference if it's a issue or is
it a issue at the end of the day is also
is the creases. So, does it matter? The
says, "Oh, yeah, it matters. The ones
that are there's a way to fix it. If you
would cut it and you would salt it,
you'd remove the dam then you'd be
allowed to eat it. But the ones that are
there's no way to be
said and some say it was again."
So we just mentioned that there are
fivein there's also five membranes that
are that are very important to know in
the laws of kosher animals
three of these membranes are also
because of
the
is the same three that we had earlier
the spleen the flankin and the kidney
that's related the bay the micro the bay
are the bates and the testicles of the
animal the micra is the brain of the
animal
that's related to
says that note a story. This is a story.
So
was once removing the membrane that was
on top of the spleen, right? We just
said
plus a and one of the three that was the
t was the spleen because of see he's
removing it and he was doing it
had a son le and is doing this service
for him
now
was only removing the membrane from the
top of the spleen but not uh the bottom
that's not something that he was
removing. So
told
you have to go further down. You have to
remove not just from the top. You have
to remove from the rabbot as well. So
says in the meantime ra whose ley bra's
father came right whose ley braid ra's
father that's not a trick question is
raun
shows up and he sees how his son Ley is
telling what to do right it's bossing
him around but he's telling you're not
taking enough of the membrane you only
take it from the top you got to also
take from the bottom so he told him
meaning told his son Ley
that your mother's father, right? So,
this is a father telling his son, you
know, your mother's father said the name
of Ra, says the Gamarra, I'm assuming
that Ley, the son of Rafia knew who his
mother's father was, but we don't know
who he was. So, says the Gammorra, who
was this? It was none other than the
great
that this membrane that's on top of the
spleen that needs to be removed. It's
only the part that's on top of the it
means like the highest parts you have to
remove the but as it relates to the
that's not something you have to remove
which is what knew which is what ley did
not know and his father came and he told
him he says no you're wrong I understand
you're being very m over here but you're
actually being too mm because what is
doing is correct you only have to remove
the top part you don't have to remove
the bottom let me ask you a question on
this one said we learn to
The chrome the membrane that's on top of
the spleen is
which are we talking about?
Are we talking about the chrome that's
on the dot? membrane that's literally on
top of the dot
of why are you not understands that the
membrane is part of the real and if
that's the case it should be and if it's
you should be cars just to highlight one
point we talked earlier about the that
are in the in the is not the real but
the membrane of the that thinks is
that's the if you tell me olive it can't
be the it can't be the that's must be
the Kool-Assa
and parts not. But what do you see from
here? What you see from here is that
what you see from here is that there's
actually a of the membrane on the spleen
that although it's not the real thing
it's not it's the lower part but it's
also you know as Ley was the one who
asked this kasha to his father after his
father gave him this whole mus your
grandfather after the whole thing he
says how you going to win this price so
amuna
told his son Ley saying very good
if you have such a price I mean I never
heard price. But if you have such a
price, I'll take your word for it. And
if that's the case, you're right. I
misspoke and was wrong. You have to cut
more because even though the only
but even the lower parts
olive shall the that's on top of the
kidney also.
So this is the memor that we just
brought one second ago that Ley brought
one second ago. The Tanya who that said
that the that's under is
why did Ley bring it? Ley brought it to
bring out the point that must be there's
two parts of the part that's going to be
but there's another part the lower part
that's going to be another thing notice
this that the br now is the longer
version of it because here we have the
not only regarding the but also the kio
when the garra initially when ley
introduced his bratas he didn't say
anything about the kio because they
weren't discussing the kio This was a
real life story. He has a spleen and is
removing the chrome and he's only taking
the top not the bottom. And there's a
whole sh over here whether that is okay
or whe that whether that's not okay.
Over here we're talking
about the actual brace. So the brace
also says something regarding the
kidney. That's why he brings the kidney
part of it as well. But anyway, they
want to ask Sakasha.
We have another Bryce that says
regarding both of these inside the
that's on the inside the that's on the
so let's meditate on this a second. We
have two bryes. We have a braer that
says the that's on the spleen, the
that's on the kidney is
which means only
and we have another Bryce that says
which means it's
so we have a stero spleens and kidneys.
Now it's relates to the spleens. We know
the answer right? What's the answer
going to be? One price says
of course the other one says not. Is it
more says
That's I mean, if we learned
the last, we know what the answer to
this is.
As relates to it's also not
the one that says that it's
the one that's on top. The one that says
not, that's the one that's on bottom.
What would be the reason to distinguish
by the way between on top and on bottom?
Because that's what the Torah says. The
Torah when talks about the it says on
top of it as opposed to on bottom of it.
Yeah. you can see why it would be. But
if it's not on top of it, it's not going
to be
either way. We're now going to pivot and
we're going to talk a little bit about
the Bim, the testicles of the animal.
Now, that just came up earlier, right?
There are five membranes. Three is two.
The ones that were awesome is are the
bay and the micro which are the and the
brain respectively. Says the
Rashi explains we're talking about where
the testicles of the animal got detached
but not 100% detached. So they're almost
100% detached. They're encased inside
the scrotum of the animal but they're
mostly detached but they're a little bit
attached. And there was whether after
the you'd be allowed to eat these B or
not.
Now what would be the reason that would
be also we'll see in a second because of
so what's is any a that is from even if
you do that's going to be an issue. So
essentially the question is these lost
do we view them as having been severed
from the animal while it was alive as a
result or it's not
we don't know who said what
are the one that said it's
you know why I view it as because these
bas will never regenerate which means
even though they're a little bit
attached they're not attached enough to
view them as being part of this live uh
animal if they were they would heal at
some point
they're not going to become buried
they're not going to become healthy they
won't regenerate must be they're not
part of the animal anymore and if that's
the case
the one that says it's
because if there's an a of an animal
that gets severed it gets removed it
starts decomposing it starts smelling
that doesn't happen to these oh must be
it must be it's still on some level
receiving
from the animals being y from animal and
for that reason I don't view it as it's
going to be okay. Now each one of these
am we don't know who said what but each
one of these seem to make a compelling
argument on the one hand you can argue
that it's
on the other hand you could argue it's
not
so
is going to have to defend his position
like why am I saying
therefore it's
maybe I should argue
must be it's not and vice versa says
the said that it's
he'll argue that the reason it's is not
because it's not but rather
the reason the of an animal wants to
sever decompose is because they're
exposed to the elements. This is not
exposed to the elements. It's still
inside the animal and being that it's
still inside the animal that's why it's
not decomposing. But that's not a that
it's being from the animal. It's
the that says the B why they because
it's been from the animal I if it's been
from the animal why doesn't it
regenerate
because sometimes things don't
regenerate sometimes it could be a then
unfortunately it it gets it to the point
that there is no ability for it to heal
that as it relates to this Shilab Last
tell you what I think. I think it's
motor. However, you me what do you mean
you you come from Rashi says you should
not eat it.
Rashi quotes I mean without saying it
the
talks about there's an Indian you have
to keep the so I hold you want to know
if it's
I hold
I don't think it's still attached to the
animal
but in
therefore
you know you're stroll now so you're
seeing everybody eats this you're not
eating this because you have to follow
your from which is where you came from
says the
related to the bim of an animal
the bim of a of a goat
for the first 30 days you're allowed to
eat it without removing the membranes
again we're going back to the we saw
earlier and that is
two of the membranes
the bim and the
which means you have to remove this
membrane soashi says he says that as it
relates to the bim of a gi But the first
30 days you don't have to worry about
now. The reason is because we assume
that the dam in the a is not fully
developed yet. And it's for that reason
we have to worry about right why do we
say you have to remove the membrane of
the bim. It's related to right three of
them was because of two of them was
because of the dam hasn't fully
developed yet and therefore you don't
have to remove any memories but after 30
days
if there's zer inside the meaning it's
able to be
then it will be unless you remove this
unless you remove this
membrane
if however it's not it's going to be how
do you know if this was able to be
masked. Right? How you know if it was
able to be maz wasn't able to be mas
if it has these red veins inside of them
could be awesome. If you don't have
these strips of red in that case it's
going to be meaning the red is a sign of
blood then you know that you have to
remove the membrane. If it doesn't have
it, however, in that case, it's not
going to be
raw meat
that we've been talking about.
These are blood vessels in the neck of
an animal.
There was a is between
and
in the entire meaning throughout
whenever is between and is the and is
like
meaning is always the is always the and
we pass like the class with the
exception of these three things that we
just mentioned.
is the ra.
So again we always pass in like the ml
usually ra is the in these three cases
which we're about to introduce now it's
the other way is now what does it mean
every single place in the the what does
that mean says it doesn't mean every
time there's a between and ra is the ram
it means every time there's a ra and you
don't know who said what so in those
situations assume ra is the m assume
rabak is the mm and by the way you don't
have Look up our goal is to say to know
who said what because you know is I'll
tell you better even know what is you
know is these three times regarding
again we don't know who said what here
you should know WHO WAS THE AND BY THE
WAY JUST LIKE in all the other cases
we're going to be in this case as well
if you remember we spoke about this at
the very very beginning of the because
according to most of the
it's
so the Fact that you would have
between and between between Ravina and
Ra makes so much sense because they're
the two right-hand men of the great
Raashi and therefore we got very
confused we couldn't remember who said
what they were so interchangeable even
though we only rais
they were so interchangeable they had a
million of these weird this is the one
time we even have a rule for it we don't
have a rule for Raven we have rule for
by the way another thing you see over
here is is that Rava was usually the
make was the Makm, right? So you could
see that for checks and balances, right?
If you're a Vashi and you're assembling
a team, so you know there's a good
chance you're going to want your Mahm on
your team and you're going to want your
make, right? We have our in-house Mahm,
we have our in-house makeel. This is
maybe a little bit insightful into the
roles that Ravina and Ravaka played
respectively. So Rava is always the
make,
Ravaka is the Makma. We have three
exceptions which is why we're talking
about this right now because the three
exceptions are very much related to the
gar that we're learning again. So what
are these three things
as first things first? That's raw meat.
So if the butcher chops the meat and he
looks at the meat and it's very red.
It's like more red than it usually is
after you do a what must have happened
was must have been some wound that
occurred while the animal was alive and
I don't know some blood gathered in this
area and as a result that's why it's so
so red. So the is like this
in the event that you'd go ahead and you
would cut it and you would salt it
then you could throw into your pot
meaning what are you worried about
blood? Okay, there's always an option.
Do malik and by the way, cut it first.
We mentioned that earlier. There's a
more intense gathering of blood. So then
you want to be first. Once you do that,
you can even throw into the pot.
Everything's going to be okay.
In the event that the person went and he
just um suspended it from the spit, he
was going to roast it. At that point,
you know for sure that the dam is going
to come out. And what it means is you
would even have to cut it. So if you
want to throw into the pot, then you're
going to be okay. If however you want to
roast it, then the is suspend it from a
spit. Even if you didn't cut it and even
if you didn't do a proper malik, again,
we're not learning the malik now. You
would have to do a little bit of a
malik, but even if you didn't do a
proper malik, that would also be okay. A
gumry, what would be if the person went
and he he didn't
hang it from a spit, but he lied it down
on coals. So what type of casuring
process would you have to do to remove
the blood from this raw meat? That's
where the wasab
said.
Yeah, that's fine. That's okay because
you know a little bit of salting maybe
you don't even have to cut it. But all
the d is going to come out. The other
one said mitzvah. No, if you're going to
put on top of the coals, the blood is
not going to come out to the contrary.
It's actually going to go further in.
It's going to contract. And it's for
that reason it's going to be that is not
a proper method of and therefore you're
gonna have an issam the same exact
was regarding the bim regarding the
blood vessels that were in the veriden.
Again if you chopped it up and you
salted it properly you can even cook it.
If you went ahead and you salted it a
little bit even if you didn't chop it up
but if you hung it from a spit that's
also going to be okay. If you went and
you want to just lie it down on coals
without cutting it and salting it
properly that's the is between and it
says the
another related to casuring an animal
again in the world of
soi says that the of this was the head
of an animal
when the butcher wants to remove the
hair from the head of the animal
he would put water on top of it
and then he would bury its head inside
hot ashes and by him doing that the hair
would come out. Right? That was the
idea. So says the if someone went ahead
and he did that
if the way he covered the head with the
remmits was where the bashita the area
that he severed that he shacked the
animal was exposed to the ground. So the
the schnit is facing the ground.
At that point we're going to assume that
when he does this all the blood is going
to come running out of the head and that
in of itself
will constitute and you won't have to
worry about the dam that's inside the
head of the animal.
If he goes ahead and he does this while
the head of the animal is lying on its
side mik for coffee then the dam that's
inside is going to congeal right. It's
not in a position where it can easily
flow out. And to the contrary, you're
going to end up with a bigger dumb
problem that you're going to have to
cast later. It's going to be
what would be if he did it in a way
where the bashita is not exposed to the
ground. So the dam can't flow out of the
bash, but the nostrils are exposed. So
the dam can flow out of the nostrils. Do
we assume that the dam's going to come
out of that? Someone says it depends. If
he puts something to make the nostrils a
little bit wider, so now there's more of
a lane for it to come out of. Sure, it's
going to be we assume the dam came out
and if not us or it's going to be had a
slightly different version of this
as it relates to it being in a position
where the or the nostrils were exposed
is going to come out and then the head
is going to be that in itself is your
cashing if it was put on the sides
that's when you have the
if you did it in a way where blood could
fall out even when it's lying on the
sides there's some opening where it can
come out of So then is then it's gonna
be and if not it's going to be
in the name of
so whenever you see the word you know
that we're mentioning something that we
already mentioned now this mera of we
mentioned but we mentioned it too ago so
we didn't just mention it now we
mentioned uh it a little while ago and
if you remember the mentioned that there
were two gidden as relates to the gdash
right this is very critical there's the
gdimi And there's the is the one that's
awesome. The is the much shorter gate.
That's the one that is going to be so
ter. So if you send the name
there's the
is the one that that's closer to the
thigh to the bone. That's the one that's
for this is this is not anymore being
the
shorter one. That's the outer one,
right? That's like on the outside part
of the
baser that's actually closer to the
baser or more than close to the baser.
It's in meshed as we saw in the and
therefore it's going to be because it's
technically maybe on some level part of
the
so
it's not going to be
now this B so we're just bringing this
one little excerpt the BC over there in
full says essentially said and that is
the is the one That's the is the one
that's stating that whereas described
the as being the described it as being
the is not on the the kash is on the
description is the gap the one that's to
the
that's what said or is it to the
that's what the says and by the way as
an innocent bystander which is what we
are we're confused which is the pie
which
said is the pi is the one that's but
will the real please stand up I don't
know what the pi is you're telling me
it's the one that's in the tell me it's
the one that's
including the way explains is as that
is the one that which is what we thought
it was which is why said the reason this
bryson describes it as because on some
level it is rashi says there's a point
where that meets the like a key meets
the hole in the door that the key is
going into
and it's for that reason we can refer to
in other words the B is not being not
giving a a different of which is the
that's the one that's notably
it describes it as because there is a
point where it's now why would the price
have even said it probably because the
price just wants to give us a better
description of what the ganosha is that
you should know. I know you know it's
the one that but just make sure it's
also the one that on some it it it
segues it and migrates a little bit into
the baser if you got that kid you know
you got the right one. It's just another
descriptive characteristic of the
gdanosha for us to have a better idea of
what the gdanosh is now asks the reverse
kasha and that is said that the is the
one that's and we described it as
that same that we just mentioned one
second ago said
again it says that the is the one that's
but it doesn't describe it as being it
describes as being so is it
review You just said a similar
is the one that's but this price again
wanted to give another way of
identifying this you have to know number
one to know it's not the real number two
to know that it is
and what we said is it's what does it
mean what it means is we've seen this
idea a lot and that is that when the
butcher goes ahead and he chops up the
animal so there is a point it's between
the thigh and the hip of the animal
where some of the bone is going to be
exposed and you'll see over there this g
and this is the g that's not the real
this is the one that's only so the gap
is the one that's the is the one that's
mut high level you would describe the
gap as being and the is being there is a
point where the gap is that's what the
bryer was referring to and there is a
point where the
after the butcher chops it and it's for
that reason there is Bryce describes it
as being
a butcher
that was found to have left over a
little bit of the in the animal. So this
butcher is a problem. So how do we deal
with this guy? Old school says that if
there's literally a barley grains worth
of that was found, we're going to deal
with him.
No, it have to be a much bigger not it
would have to be
because there's different definition of
of dealing
as it relates to removing him from his
position. That's what Rebuta was
referring to as it relates to giving him
malus meaning punishing him old school.
He's a high malus for being over in the
but at the same time punishing him that
already would have to be would have to
be. So even though it sounds like it's a
when we punish this guy
right is always the one making shalom
and sh right let's do both that's papa
over here says there there's really no
he was talking about removing him from
his position and he was talking about
punishing
a different he said no that
as it relates to the
meaning if you found it in one place it
would have to be if you found it in
multiple places even if each one is but
if they aggregate they tally up to
that point be a problem and again is
saying also but he has a different way
of reconciling these two in light of the
fact that they're not really arguing
it's not
say who do we ask like is the realist
It's based on a puppet's formulation.
Either way, we now return to the Mishna
Mishna which was at the very very very
beginning of the per. So the Mishna at
the very end had brought a misus
between Ram and the with regards to
whether or not a butcher is believed to
say that he removed the theor
butchers are not trusted to say that
they removed the
believed and then the for good measure
threw in oh by the way those who believe
to say that they removed the is going to
say no one said anything Why are we
throwing says the
again
that even though that the would not
believe to say that they removed the but
at some point afterwards they came
around and they said that no that even
according to even it's it's going to be
M we could always trust the butchers
heard this nakman he said
Right. This goes against the grain. It's
there supposed to be what we begot from.
We're more trustworthy now than we were
back in the day. We know that's not the
case. Explains
the olden days. So the butchers held
like ra which this is already a
different this coming up later in the
peric. Ram mayor holds that removing the
gan requires a much bigger job meaning
you have to take out
it's a very very big job so they held
the butchers that what you need to
remove is so much and it's for that
reason they have a mah they weren't
believed because nobody trusted them
that they were going through the to
remove all this
but then they came around and they held
later in the bar that told you you don't
have to remove so much just remove the
sciatic nerve and you're good to But if
you don't have TO DO SO MUCH then
there's no reason not to trust them
became from but it's that there was a
certain that flipped and that was they
used to try to do more if you try to do
more counterintuitive now we're not
going to trust oh because you're so from
it's a therefore we can't trust you that
you actually did it oh but now that to
be like so yeah there's no reason not to
trust at the very least they took out
meaning it sounds like what was later
was like we could trust them to do a
little bit of a removal, a little bit of
a nickor that we trust them for to do a
large scale removal. That's not
something with those that had me not on
the not on the sheet of but rather on
the
no that they are believed. They're
believed to say they removed the
believed to say that they removed
and it was on this
they came around and they said that no
they're actually not going to be
believed.
And here commented he said this man now
they're going to believe.
So you remember in the first was the one
who asked the hereman is the one that
says again the said in the
said nope
SAID NO WE BROUGHT back the good old
days now again now is asking it's
possible
explains
in the beginning of time they held like
that what that you have to just remove a
little bit it's for that reason was
then they came around and the midics
started becoming oh so if the was all
the butchers are doing this massive
removal
it's perfectly understandable why they
said it's going to be a problem so
they weren't believed to say that they
went ahead and they did like grand mayor
What does this law mean
is when they were aware of again the
so therefore it's an easy removal the
butchers will believe but then they
switch they decided is really like but
they still remember there was aud
because they still remember they would
be to go like when is really like and
for that reason they're not believed
because we assume if you did a nikra the
best he did was a huda
which is not enough of a and therefore
we can't trust you.
This is a little interesting. But then
they forgot about the whole wasn't even
a real thing anymore. So now if they
said that they did the going to be
believe the only time they didn't
believe the butchers is when there was
presumed to be like Yehuda and the was
presumed to be like but the butchers are
mindful of they forget.
So then we are concerned that maybe
they're going ahead and they're being m
like we're really supposed to be like
but when was like for sure we were able
to trust them and even when became like
but when they forgot about even then we
were willing to trust them right are
trusting them much more than is but the
point is is that when they trusted them
originally it was because it's an easy
removal then they said ohud
is like mayor that you have to do a big
removal
And maybe when you're saying you did the
you mean I can't trust you the was when
they realized that is like but they
forgot
to assume the guy's a liar. There's no
reason to assume that if he says he did
we can give him the benefit of the
doubt. Either way said that you don't
trust the butchers for said you could
trust him for the
said
let's do a little bit of an edit
even though it didn't say we'll insert
the word
no we do trust the butcher
and we trust him for the as well either
way this concludes a long technical daf
started talking about gdanosha and then
we went kneedeep into the world of and
then into the world of D and then it
concluded with Gdan again. And by the
way, last word in the daf was and
another shout out to the idea of but as
it relates to raid long daf so short
related to the idea of the gdanosha
specifically
the topic of the previous twoin which
was the history of the gdanosha and the
history of the gdanosha is not tucked
away it's not # rest of the story it's
mentioned mentioned in Parish. It came
about as a result of the fight the the
battle the wrestling match just from the
Mikra that occurred between Yakov Au and
the Sam and Syov and the Pik says that
even though ultimately Jacobu prevailed
and Yakavinu clearly won the match
that
Malik begged that he cried and he
pleaded with Yakavinu to let him go. He
needed to sing shir but at the same time
Jacobu did walk away literally limping
he had some thigh injury and the says
okay it's for that reason
that's in this area
up until today
either way this is a PK in par one of
the few mitzvah that the Tyra mentions
even before. The reason
is related to this episode that took
place between
and between
if you take a look at the
thatim
of this parish
they struggle a little bit to understand
what's the
so again you know we could understand on
a mitzvah level with this 613 mitzvah
248 mitzvah say 365 mitzvah
to explain.
But here the itself
is already making a big deal about
and
what is that because of the fact
therefore
if you take a look at the who is the
voice of
he says
This is a way of remembering the of the
and the miracle that performed to him in
that he didn't die. In other words, the
reason there's a saying in the of don't
eat and the that it has to the story is
pursu. So we know there's so many
mitzvah that we do pursues
migill those mites but there's a concept
of pursu
that's related to pursu
to remember the mighty strength of
we want to remember this incredible
miracle because really had no business
making it out alive he was fighting
against a malik doesn't matter how
strong Jacob
is the Malik's going to win all day
every day yet made it out alive. So we
have to remember the miracle and the way
we remember the miracle is by not doing
something. What don't we do? We don't
need to get the love of says is based on
stating that if you take a look at the
and it's also in the
and it's in the
and it says it already in the
all have a different
they all say that the idea of
as a result of the fight was not a a
good thing. This is not like a positive.
Let's remember the incredible miracle
and therefore no one's going to eat from
the but to the contrary this was
actually a punishment. Just going to
read from the inside.
It's a punishment and the deserve this
punishment
because really how did this whole issue
start with
So where was his entourage? He has a
bunch of big strong sons. How come they
weren't on his side? He should have had
right. He should have been surrounded by
his where was everybody.
We know
and he ended up getting hurt.
It's for that reason there's a there's a
punishment and it's a as well
and it's a reminder also that you have
to always be mala you have to be on your
father's side and specifically if
somebody's going out by himself even if
it's not your father you always have to
be there but says that this was a
punishment because the basis was
somewhat complicit in this punishment
because it wouldn't have happened would
it not been and the only reason he was
because they didn't come there so he
says it was a PUNISHMENT IT WAS AND THEN
HE THROWS in it's also like but Not a
but it's a you have to do that's what
this is. Take a look at
that's why you find lady was so careful
to to be mav
when he sent him this. But the point is
that according to the and the
and as we mentioned it says it in other
as well. This is not like a good thing.
Let's remember the miracle. This is a
bad thing. It's anish. It's a to the
fact that the brothers didn't do what
they were supposed to do because had
they been there with him and would have
been
would have never been punished. And if
you want there to be a zer component,
there is a zer. The zhar is you have to
be mal somebody. You can't allow a
person to go out be. Because if somebody
goes out now he's vulnerable you never
know what can come from this there's a
from the it's called
and the
also brought this mahalak that the
it's anish because of the fact that the
wav
and the skin asks a bomb cash it's a
And that is we're learning. We know
there's a mand that holds
if
that means the doesn't taste like
anything, right? We saw in the very
beginning of today's
one goes so far as to say it's that it's
only the
cuz the G itself doesn't have any taste.
If the wants to punish them, so what's
the punishment? You know that one thing
that tastes like nothing, the one thing
that you're never going to eat anyways.
The one thing that's going to be like
even if it's NOT AN OH THAT you're not
allowed TO EAT
IF IT DOESN'T have any taste then what's
the issue and by the way don't say but
isn't there a mand that holds
so maybe this wholehat is going
according to that mand it's not going to
work and the reason is the already
speaks out here in the how could you
have
right taste it now we can't taste it but
we're about to start the of it's coming
up in a matter of moments, right? SO
GIVE IT TO GIVE IT TO SOMEONE who's
allowed to taste it and ask him does it
taste like anything? Does it not taste
like anything? And you'll know whether
the ter is there was no in the they gave
it to their they knew that it had a
taste but
and the is whether that time is or it's
not which means even the hold it's not
really a taste. So if it's not really a
taste,
I don't understand what's going on over
here.
It's a
you're not going to be ABLE TO GET
DOESN'T TASTE LIKE anything anyways.
What kind of is that? And because of
this kasha the brings in the name
who said that the is not the fact that
you can't eat the gdan because doesn't
taste like anything anyways but at the
same time the is what happens if the
gdanosha ends up in au with other foods
which again we're about to usher in the
suga of taru it's mish the mission is
coming up right when you learn in
yeshiva
it's a bunch of that starts in the
latter half of parakeidosha but gdanosha
that's nar this is literally exhibit a
ground zero this is chapter 1 verse one
for the taras what happens if the
gdanosha was nar and by the way you see
that the gdanosha was inshed in the
animal so it's because of the other
buser that the gdanosha gets in meshed
with that becomes part and parcel with
it's because of that that there's anami
the fact that you can't eat the gdanosha
that in of itself is not a punishment
but when the gdanosh is in mesh which it
always is by the way, right? Most people
do not eat the fon which is the best
part in the animal. Why? Because we're
not anymore. So you're right is not the
fact that you can't eat the git, but the
fact you can't eat a fon. I hear that
we're already talking. So the bottom
line is not
is when the is which seemed to be
something that you know happened. It was
for that reason we view it as that a
little bit but this says in order to get
out of this I saw in
this is on this
he brings this discussion he asks that
if you take a look at the lotion of the
rush the rush's lion is that It was a
punishment for the
it's for that reason took away from them
that it sounds like the is the right
what's the
mascara and it should be a reminder not
of the miracle of the of the that they
went ahead and they committed but the
bottom line is mahal is a little bit
from the rush it certainly is not that
way and if that's the case it's very
very
says I want to tell you and really it's
based on
this if you take a look at on the
he says as follows I'm going to read the
words without understanding it
is
because of the fact that the gid was it
moved from its source its root of
kadusha
And then the kipa had the ability to
have some dominance over it.
And this is a that in all areas would
result in
it's for that reason
and said it's
because he knows what this all means.
And you'll see the secret of this
basic
has no time for
and that's a sim for the fact that the
exists
the reason it doesn't have a time
because it lost the
other you could say
but the is what I just told you says
things that are above our pay grade and
he explains a little bit what's going on
in this
wise let me explain to you he has a word
for word translation and explanation of
what
means but he says really in order to
appreciate and this is something that we
could understand there's just one that
we have to know and this is something he
brings is brought down in many many of
I'll read from the this is
there's nothing that can exist in this
world if it doesn't have a spark of
that spark comes from the
and it and Kadusha that came from the
Debbra of and it is really the the atom
it's the nucleus of everything that
exists in this world and it's what gives
it its
he says when it comes to food when you
eat food the food is going to taste good
you know why the food is going to taste
good because the nit of that the food
has that's what gives it its taste
listen to this
When you eat something and you taste
something and
you want to know why it's
and that's where that comes from.
The reason is it's because of the
was
goes ahead and gives us he brings from
the from the who said when a person eats
he should think
that the sweetness of what it is he's
eating is coming from the
why does the food taste good? It tastes
good because there's a certain nit of
kaduca there's a that it has and that's
what gives us this incredible taste. He
brings from the for
who said if a person has a
think
that this good taste that he has right
now is coming from
and were it not for the and the needs of
it would not have had a time he brings
it from the he said this is an Indian
that is pervasive within the
It's posh. That's what the kadesh was
saying. What was saying was is that when
the Sam had a battle with Jacobu, what
happened was the Sam hit Yakov. And when
he hit Yakov, he caused Yakavinu's
to go out of place. And the is that when
it was,
it was not just it slipped out of place.
Yakavino needs a chiropractor. It was
that's what happened and because it was
from the IT WAS
THE was able to get involved the
that part of the goof had ALL OF A
SUDDEN doesn't have anymore and now all
of A SUDDEN IN THE COULDN'T BE in but
what was he able to be on all the farms
say this he was able to be
that was the one part of him that he was
able to get and when he went and he got
him over there you know what happened in
nit of was gone. What happened when the
kadusha was gone? Now all of a sudden it
has no taste.
That's a sign that the clip is over
there
and
from all these that they all said this
that the time of something comes from
the but being that it was
and being that something slipped it
slipped from the now all of a sudden the
was able to be and that's why he says
says
that that
he said, "I see something from this that
I never found anywhere else." And we're
going to take word for it. He said, "I
never found this anywhere else in any
which means
any other
that what you see from
that before
and before the was able to be on the
It tasted like something and it probably
tasted pretty good.
And people used to eat it.
But it was only because of that they
weren't their father and they let their
father an older person go
and he has all these strong sons where
are they not there to take care of him.
It was because of what happened
that was able to be
lost. For that reason they were punished
and they were told you're not let it
went away
and that's cool for why
before this story the had a town and
that's WHY IT IS THE WHAT KIND OF
ENGLISH IS THIS? It don't taste like
anything. No no the only reason it
doesn't taste like anything is because
IS BECAUSE SAID YOU ALLOWED THIS to
happen. I'M GONNA BE MALIC my from it.
And now the is going to come and now
it's tak not going to taste like
anything.
It very much did taste like something
who wanted a punish. And the way the
punishment happened was was said I'm
going to be malic myself from that area.
The clip is going to be it's not going
to have time
of the it really did have a time being
that it had a time. It's very moving why
this would have been appropriate
either way. Classic
managed to answer the kasha to have a a
new