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Today's isal
and we are six lines from the bottom of
today's being learned as a
so we're moving along
not the easiest in and we're discussing
the
of the Ben Pakua,
the
that are predicated
on an idea that in the event that
somebody
the
mother obviously becomes
but not just the mother to as well. In
the beginning of the paras
brought not one but two how it is we
know that this is the case
regardless there is a
that in the event that somebody
becomes
as well it's loosely known as the suga
of the bmpakua although as we saw the
bmpakuda is is a nuanced example of
this. It's a case where when the
was slaughtered the uber actually
emerged alive it was
and it lived
in the bottom line is a lot of different
that relate to the all of which are
discussed over here in perash
specifically just to frame where it is
we're holding the Mishna and B brought a
between
that we saw already on the first staff
of the and that is in the event that
somebody
and the was
and the hand of the was outside at the
time of the that's part that that hand
is going to be
the question however is with regards to
the rest of the baser both the baser of
the mother and the buser of the Uber. Is
that buser going to now be Tommy or is
it not going to be Tommy? mayor holds
that being that the
did not work for the one hand of the
uber that was outside and again that's
true alib
it emerges that that hand is an avail if
that's the case all the bus of the
animal is a and it's for that reason as
long as it was
which the assumption usually is because
there's blood at the time of the so all
of that is now going to be
the said that We don't view that one
hand as being but rather we view that
hand as being a meaning it's
true but at the same time it's not just
like a
but at the same time it's not and just
like a tra is not so too this hand is
not going to be either now we did see in
the previous staff that as much as it's
true that according to the it's not an
avail based on that it should be to But
even a traa has certain levels of tommo
with regards to kachum. So there is
going to be a madrega of tommo that the
hand is going to have which means that
the bas which is
also going to have some level of but
it's not the same as bottom line is that
was the is between
the got involved in the of the
so what's an it's talking about where
you have an animal forget about aim bear
just a regular good oldfashioned animal
even a zar and it has an a that right
now is hanging gone for dear life. So
it's attached to the animal but at the
same time it's and the it to this is
between and meaning the Uber's hand that
is outside of the behem at the time of
the is a little bit similar to the a
which is outside on some level the at
the time of the there's the
so to speak and there's the a
and there was a discussion
and
in terms of how exactly the
would relate to this is between but that
was all yesterday's what we need for the
segue to today's is that in the course
of
that
said in the name and that is
how everybody's
that as it relates to the Abraham
there's an idea that
and at the same time
but itself is not going to be so what
does this mean that means in the event
that you have a and this had an if the
behemoth ends up dying notes
we look at the mid as if it already fell
off the animal while the animal was
alive mis the me of the animal is
it makes it as if while the animal was
alive that already fell off. What's if
you have a live animal where an fall
falls off it's subject to the of so
meaning
that of
the
said
that you want to know the no remain in
the event that the animal ends up dying
because that we're going to view that as
if it fell off while it was still alive
me says is going to be now just to be
clear if mis was any so then you would
view that a as being
not eating this right whether it's
you can't eat it you can only eat if you
had if
you don't come up with this huge that it
fell off while it was alive well then
it's a if you say
you do subscribe to this bigish then
it's going to be
it's going to be as a matter of fact
it's actually more by saying that it's
as opposed to saying it's because of
actually has to be an has we didn't
learn the we're going to so it's
actually a by saying but the bottom line
is everybody agrees
additionally everybody's
that in the event that somebody an
animal that is
the
animal that has an a that's medal when
you go ahead and you don't say glory
that this a already fell off while it
was alive and therefore it should be
treated now like a because
so what does that mean that means the
really is and it's going to be a now we
saw briefly in yesterday's we'll see it
a little bit better right now in the
beginning of today's laugh that even
though
that but at the same time it's still
going to be
and the way both but the way both learn
that is is only going to be but the
bottom line is and this is what we need
to start today's
everybody's
in the event that it dies. We're going
to view that as if it's
but at the same time if it has a then
already it's going to be
stating that it's going to be as we're
going to see. He says,
"I want you to make sure that you
internalize this because this is very
much you know how I know that
because Barbarano also said this and
being that Rabbaro also said this, this
must be true." It's interesting
says something in the name of
doesn't need a
apparently does and said
meaning even though you might have never
heard of and you're going to say to walk
into say that is even hard to articulate
even mean but that's said
you know Why? Because
it's the of
every day he's
said the same thing. And if he said the
same thing again in the name of the
great must be that's the way it is. So
what's the background of what said
you think you know what we learned from
this? So we know already the three from
last week's but says
that in the event that there was an or
there was that was whether it was a
whether was in the event that you did is
there going to be but here's the punch
line
that as much as we're saying but all
there is is a mitzvah
What does this mean? Top line.
What do you see from here?
So you see the also the name that
we know is
because even though he's walking in he's
saying that is you would think should
also be but it's a tailing you're making
as much as it's and as much as maybe
you're not sure whether you should
accept and internalize this you should
you know why because
of is and if that's the case this must
be the way it says the so we have
as it relates to we heard it from two
and from
that
says the now I'm going to tell you what
is right you always want to know what ra
has to say in a especially that already
opined in so says I'll tell you another
anecdote also involves involving
this was sitting in the presence of and
said over the following
the name of
somebody is
he's going to get
so there was one of the over there turns
to and says don't listen to
because I'm going to tell you what
to say in the name
that if somebody eats
Abraham
you're not going to get malusa
sitting says
in the name of Rav and then he hears
like in the name of Rav so you know what
to do
asked this
and he said
so what should we do
again was there he turned around
means so he turns around he gets angry
hold there's no steer over here
when I said that
you know what I was talking about I was
talking about
and you know why you're going to get
that's what means
when
said in the name of that you're not
going to get malus and you know why
it's because holds
which means by the way holds he makes
this distinction between
what is the we said before it's a huge
right must have some source so I'm going
to tell you the
says
now this is in the par of
So you have the
and it says that if a dead member of the
falls on a food it's going to be now it
says
what's coming to be
is coming to that the only time that is
if they're dead but not if they're alive
it says
in the context over there. So we know
it's dead. So why do we have to be
you know what's coming to teach me ready
for this
as if we
so take the word and take the word
highlight those two words
and by the way only
but says
and
this incredible
It's learned out from apostle
and only
heard. He turned to him and he said,
"Come again.
We're talking about
like how in the world can you teach me
from the parish of this has absolutely
no aon."
So
it can't be that this is teaching me
anything in
can't be this. I don't know about any
other either.
I understand that at first glance this
sounds like very farfetched but at the
same time I have an extra word and
that's one of the addresses and as a
result that must be what's going on is
not true.
Don't I need the word to teach me
another and that is the only time
is if they're
they are the way they were at the time
that they died at the moment of death
they were still somewhat somewhat moist
after the time they eventually become
right and that's a that the only time
the is if not if and we learned that
from
means so there's nothing extra over here
I need the word meaning you're right not
to tell me that they have to be dead
that I know from but I need to teach me
that they have to be they have to be
if you look in the parish it says the
word
twice
it says the word twice and being that it
says the word twice is coming to teach
me what
the
that
and the other one is coming to teach me
that
and this is going back to the we had
between
regarding an that was
at the time of so we know that y is
going to be remain whether that y is so
that the rest of the bus is or whether
that y is going to be and the rest of
the bus is going to
is when the was alive.
But in the event that at the time of the
Uber was dead already,
everybody agrees that the is that
right? we said before,
but over here what it means is that as
it relates to the a of the so we're
going to look at it as if it was already
dead prior to the of the mother which
means that it's going to have a den of
an a and for sure it's going to end up
being meaning the only time there's a
that holds that we only look at it as a
is in the event that the was if it was
so then already we say it's going to be
okay if however was dead not what's this
far if you look at
being that when things are alive that's
subject to so
over here we'll say the is going to work
I'll for that not to be because it's
outside but at the very least for it to
be but if it's dead being that there's
is no.
So therefore, we're going to say so to
speak. We're going to look at it as and
everyone's going to agree it's be a
problem says
noish there's no inkling anywhere of
this distinction. And if you have
whether it was
and you went ahead and you did
whether or not it's going to be whe it's
going to be it's true whether the animal
ends up dying
if it doesn't end up dying.
Either way going back to the Mishna. So
the M mentioned
regarding someone who
the hand of the was outside at the time
of the
is that the hand is the rest of the is
stating that the question is the rest of
the and the mother also for that matter.
Do we look at it as maga
or do we look at it as maga?
Now the Gmorra mentioned a little bit of
a of a shhatario between
Rome and the and from there the Mishna
digressed a little bit and the Mishna
got involved that how is it that we even
know that if somebody shacks the
is going to be meaning the whole
predicates the fact that
is
that yet is it considered
or is it considered it's going to be but
that's the basis of this whole
discussion
that
is going to be taught and the Mishna
asked
how do you know that when you
think it's
again these few lines here
in said
No, this mission doesn't only ask me.
The mission asks it with a little bit of
a pump. I even have a one of the
that would seem to suggest that it
should be because if somebody shs a
non-coosher animal, it's physically
tummy, right? The tomato going to be we
mean that it's going to be impure. It's
going to be Tomus.
It's a little bit tricky. One of the
things that are a little bit tricky, but
either way, Titus the How do you know
that if somebody shacks a kosher animal,
that's a tra is going to be? Shouldn't
we argue that if somebody shacks a
non-coosher animal, what the Mishna
refers to as a
it's going to be
should be the same way.
as opposed to a tra that had a in other
words which never had a therefore if you
do it can't even be
as opposed to a had a so the mission
continued and the said
take away your
meaning that what you're saying is right
that there is a distinction because one
had a
true even if it was
so if that's the case in that situation
it never had so what are you going to
say over there's
another distinction
there's no time where is ever going to
work even for this entire species
as opposed to a tra being that if it's
species if it wasn't a tra would be so
therefore it's
so that would be enough for it to be and
that is seemingly the way the belief so
you want to know
right what's the to it and the kasha is
shouldn't we argue that it should be
like a behem
The first was didn't have a shak had a
kosher which the mission said I hear a
little bit but it's not going to be of
everything because at the end of the day
and for that we had to come on to
another and that is
now rashi speaks out important rashi to
understand we're about to learn and that
is the Mishna never gave him a card. How
you know that when you the is it becomes
all the Mishna said was it's not a tome
I would argue it should be like
that the Mishna never gave and Rashi
much with this a little bit in the
Mishna and Rashi says that you have to
say the is as follows you have to say
the is that being that it says in the
that if you go ahead and you bucket
is it's going to be so really the
assumption is that anytime you
it's automatically going to be t whether
it's going to be
it's still going to be t. So unless you
have a reasoning to tell me that it
should not be tar the status quo it
wakes up in the morning as being tar. We
thought that there's a mamino that would
argue that it should be a problem that
there is no mamino but at the end of the
day the reason it's really because of so
it's a little bit on the like a very
wordy but and it's a little because the
reason that it's never even expressed
the reason it's because
you have a it's not by maybe it
shouldn't be by either
version one one is a problem that it
never had a shasa the other had a shasa
kosher. We had a little bit of an issue
with that and as a result we had version
two which is that one of them is
and the other one is but once it's
a
and therefore based on the
is that in the event that you do
it's gonna be okay. But then the Mishna
concluded with one last line. The Mishna
said that
in the event this is a little bit of
that an animal gives birth to a live
animal that was 8 months old.
It gives birth to what's considered a
neashi speaks out in the Mishna that
behagasa has a similar pregnancy as does
a human being. And just like when it
comes to a human pregnancy back in the
day, if a woman gave birth to a child in
the eighth month, the child was
considered a nal and it was presumed
that it wasn't going to be able to live.
When it comes to gasa and an animal,
it's going to be the same thing. So the
mission is talking about gossip. But the
bottom line is even if it gave birth
regular aged
is there if you do the is not going to
be which means it's going to be and it's
even going to be and the reason is
because there's no and that there's no
so it's for that reason it's not going
to be okay. Now this is the last line of
the Mishna and it's to what the
previously said the Mishna said that if
somebody
is it's
somebody a it's not what's the version
2.0 you know, one is the other one's the
trait is because if it wasn't a trait
for this identical would be
so therefore the even though it can't be
because that's a pos but at the very
least it could be as opposed to the
there is no
therefore it's going to not be included
in
and therefore it's going to be as it
relates to a ben so over the campire
because we view it now as a living so to
speak. What about it? Can't be mate
because we view it as a living. What
about could it be says is it to the or
is it to the
it's to the and the reason is
because there's never a situation where
you're going to have an 8-month-old
that you're going to be able and that's
what is and therefore I look at it as a
I don't look at it as
and it's also to So too when it comes to
the last line of the Mishna that the
begins now and asks
the
meaning
over there now we need a background for
this says it's a but really you have to
see that inside to fully appreciate it
but just the short version of it is that
Bryson mirrors our Mishna and in that
mish apparis the
exact sharia of what's the between a
behemoth
and a bea
is playing itself out. Why is it that a
behaora is also
even after the as opposed to aa is not
and the mentions the first suggestion
that we had in our this second
suggestion as well when it comes to the
second suggestion even though our was
satisfied with it
but the invite
how could you tell me that the between
and
is that one is the other one is
an animal that's born 8 months old. By
the way, this animal was just born 8
months old. Nothing to do with pimpur,
right? Just a regular animal that was
born 8 months old that was born 8 months
old.
Even though it has been
still you see the is not what's the is
that you see that the time of this price
was of the opinion that a benino is
considered
now why would you say it's considered
because it's a regular kosher animal if
it was one month older then it would be
subject to regular koshita not only
wouldn't it not be to be able to eat it
as well nvas
in our mission for some reason the
benmina was viewed as its own mitt. I
mean that you'll never find a gasa
that's 8 months old when it was born or
was born 8 month where it's going to be
therefore we viewed it as an but the see
hell not that way and by the way I could
sus right I mean if anything the maybe
is even a little bit more logical but
again who are we to be the bottom line
is
seems to be of the opinion
that
is the crisis has murish that is now
notice the
are both coming out
and also it's not going to be our Mishna
said it because being that it's aimed so
it's like the right is tricky stuff but
it's like the the used it as a
the holds that it's
and asked it as a kasha if that's the
case it can be the man is that one is
cuz I found an example of something
that's and still it's going to be
that it's going to be that's not the is
that in our is considered an is
considered a
so the bottom line is
how do you
and additionally right if you want to
just add a to the
is that in a way you can almost argue
that the Mishna is Right? Because you
don't find anywhere you don't find
anywhere that there's a bino when it's a
ben. So if that's the case, what exactly
is the over
that of the really
holds that there is never a situation
where it could be a ben but at the same
time you'll be able to and it's going to
be okay. But being that aim if it had
not been shakut after it emerged but you
shed the mother and the uber was inside
the mother and the uber was eight months
old at that point it would have been
that it would have been so that's where
you find that it's a
holds it
why don't we say that it's soar says
he holds
the fact that it's that in of itself is
not going to be okay. In other words, we
had a a little bit of a steer over here.
Do you view the Ben
as being
or do you view it as being our Mishna
holds it? The town of the BR holds it.
The only time it's going to be
considered is if you could find a bench
where you find the T of the B hold you
have it. You know where you have it. If
you shack the mother, it's going to be
as opposed to the count of ours that in
itself is not enough of a reason
and it's for that reason it's not going
to be okay. But it's ostensibly
because
it's going to be
it's going to be the question is is this
consistent with the distinction that was
suggesting between
and between the
or is it a on that distinction you'd
have to come up with some other but the
bottom line is
it's the same and there's TWO WAYS TO
LOOK AT IT. THE ONLY way it's going to
be considered
is like what the T of the Mishna holds
and that you have to find where
is the T of the B is the T of that's not
considered that's going to be the
according to the T of the B
so at the end of the day what is the T
that
is matar meaning you have a pira right
we just said there's a pira the Mishna
said that what's the mar the mar is thr
out from right okay but
it should be the same should be true
when it comes to as well
the is no it's very different this is
but according to the time of the price
of that holds that
is considered
so
you see that the doesn't work at all. So
this shouldn't be that either. So again
it says but the cash is you have to come
out to some sort of
then the says
so we're talking about here and it says
always means
we learn from here there are certain
that there are certain even though
you're not let them but they're not
That's referring to the traumatar and
that's how I know it's at the end of the
day the t of our mishna like rashi
spokishna holds that what's the mar that
the of isop from it's learned from the
fact that it says the whole shack of in
the mishna is only why don't we learn
from a non-cooser animal that the
doesn't work at all so it shouldn't work
here either and for that we had a kilik
the is a non-coosher animal is you don't
find anywhere where is going to work as
opposed to the kosher animal if it's not
a tifa it's it's going to work
the t of the bisa can't learn that way
the reason the ba can't learn that way
is because the t of the holds that an
8mon old or a behema that's born in the
eighth month of pregnancy no a that's
more than the eighth month of pregnancy
is if you it's going to be
and it's going to be which nobody
disagrees with but kind of the ice and
holds and lumbus that's considered
where's if it was not born and it stayed
inside the mother's womb and you would
have shed the mother because of
it would have been
and you see it's not you see even still
it's
It's related to the
is an ibaya that's talking to the Mishna
that we're about to learn on the bottom
of the so why would the do that it's
because we know this Mishna already it
came up superficially already a few
times here in the background is
and that is what happens in the event
that somebody
and the Uber walks out alive and it was
the literal Ben Ra holds that This benur
requires without you're not let it hold
that it's going to be okay. It's
in other words according to although
there's
there is a
there's a
but it does not relate to an animal that
was
and that lived it survived the in that
situation that is not going to apply to
is going to apply as well. So with that
backdrop
had the following.
What would be if the stuck his hand
inside the of the mother
and there was a live animal. It was and
he went and
is this going to be m or is this not
going to be m meaning is it does it not?
You did a regular but it was inside the
says the
and really this has nothing to do with
in fact you can clear
it's going to be okay
and it's going to be okay and that going
to it's not going to be okay it's not
going to be okay has nothing to do why
so the says like this
mayor because even mayor that said that
what that requires
When is that true?
That's what
over there it certainly would not
require
yet and if that's the case maybe the is
not even going to help meaning it could
be even though a mayor holds that
there's a mus of a bakua it could be
that's only true if it was
but let's say you would shack it and the
animal would have died while it was
inside the for sure it would be right
it's only when it's so it sounds like
it's the
that maybe is what gives it the status
of the which according to a mayor is not
a so if that's the case if you went into
the of the mother and you went ahead and
you did the over there it could be there
it's still considered part of the mother
it's considered
right because if you would check then it
would die in that spot it would for sure
we'll see in a in a minute but we know
that right so it could be over there
it's for sure not considered its own and
if it's not considered its own behugging
that being that if you would check the
mother the would be so even if you shar
it's not going to be okay because it's
almost like not viewed as regular see
more about this in the so not considered
regular and it's for that reason it's
not going to be okay
maybe I feel maybe you could argue the
opposite even the hold that where
It's still but it could be that doesn't
mean that if you went ahead and you it's
not going to be a good of course could
be says the
it could be when the gave this
it meant that there's two different ways
or four that you can sever that would
can be considered usually has two sim
you could sh them you could check over
just because
there's a concept of that means that if
you f it's not going to Okay. So again
now just to clarify this point as well
that's part that according to the once
the animal is at that point is
meaningless because it's already in the
whole idea is to make it
from doesn't have any of these things
anyways. So that is a meaningless right
that's not the right that's at that
point it's going to be okay because that
is but over here you shed it before you
shed the mother the question is being
that if you would check the mother it
would be it would work it would be so
maybe like the not maybe not
there's two different ways to do it so
the kids says if somebody would go ahead
and he would
before the mother while it was alive was
right that's what the means when it says
means I can hit
it
I can hear that even though holds that
ordinarily it requires a but maybe while
it's still in the being that if you
would check the mother and the animal
would die so it could be or could be
even according to that when it's born it
doesn't require but maybe before you
kill it has just because it's in just
because the mother and it would die or
even walk out alive it wouldn't require
but that doesn't mean maybe our boss
so says the
I think I can bring you right from our
Mishna because the Mishna in the first
attempt
to distinguish between the behem and the
beha why is it that the beha
is
but the is not going to be. So what was
the soil is one of them
was born this way and the other one was
not born this way. One of them had a one
didn't have a shakar's decoy said
take take away this
what about if it was if it was so in
that case it means and still it's going
to be said
if you're going to tell me that you can
go into the of the and you could check
and it's going to be then how could you
tell me that if it's
never had a
sounds like if it's BORN IF IT'S BORN
means never which means that the first
moment that you can go ahead and do is
after the if you can do the while it's
still or if you can do the while it's
still that means that even if it was
born
it doesn't necessarily mean there was no
it's still possible
This is this is not a dick
already of this
already happened in that kind of
situation. That's where it's
where your turrets wouldn't fly. You
want an example.
If it has 5T, right? We know. So if it
has five feet, it's as if it has three
feet. So that would make it a traumat
right. So that would that would make it
a tra. And the bottom line is is that in
that situation where it's a tra that was
clearly right that happened the moment
of it's not like it started with four
and then it developed a fifth. That
would have been that's what the Mishna
means. It's a
you can't b too much in it. Either way
we're moving along now. Next Mishna.
This Mishna
is going to finally bring this is
between and really if you think about it
this mission we're about to learn right
now could have would have should have
been the first mission of the bar
because really this is like the phase of
right the per start.
That's how it starts. But really really
this would be a very logical place to to
start it at least. No, if you want to
get a clite in it. Again, had reasons
why they were massad the way they were
massad. But just from a practical
standpoint, this is very much
as it relates to the laws of everything
we've been learning. Now
somebody
and after the animal he pulled out an
animal that was 8 months old meaning it
had been in the womb for 8 months and it
was alive or it was dead
or it was already
it had been in the womb for 9 months and
it was dead. So
you can tear it apart meaning you don't
have to sh it. Right. The is you have to
get rid of the blood. As long as I get
rid of the blood, it's going to be ah
you didn't do you did on the mother and
that's how this works.
If it was nine months already and it was
alive
it requires
and I think that day because
you just shed the tomorrow you have to
wait until tomorrow until you
say
that even in a situation where it was
nine months already there and it was
high still it's going to be okay
double down. He said,
"Even if it's five years old and it's
still going to be okay." The Mishna
concludes and the Mishna says, "What
would be if you didn't the mother, you
just tore it apart
and you found this?
That's obvious."
I was going to even explain what is, but
the basic
synonym you want to use to describe this
whole uh week of when does it apply?
Everybody in the world agrees that if
you go ahead and you the mother and you
find an animal inside that was
it's not a fullterm
animal. Oh, by the way, it's not a
fullterm live animal. Everybody agrees
in that situation you're going to have
the hat. So if it's 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
months alive dead it doesn't matter it's
mut doesn't require that's the of the
even if it's 9 months old if it's dead
it died you or even before the I don't
care is it's going to be
where is there if it was 9 months and it
walked out and now it's going to be okay
according to you don't have the hat and
according to
the you have the hat just to visualize
be mish this a little bit better that
will help us internalize it a little bit
better right visualization is very
helpful for internalization but just to
be able to this a drop better
if the animal was born dead so it's dead
if the animal was born alive and it was
like kadasha that was a good part of the
previous we assume it's going to die
even when it's alive we treat as an aa
meaning according to raor anytime you do
this and the animal's going walk out and
do its thing. You're not going to have
the hat there. It's never going to be
neg if it's 5 years.
By definition, it was full term that it
was alive. In that situation, it's not
going to be okay. Reme is basically
telling you that to the extent that this
animal is a viable animal, it's not
again. You don't have this whole hat
there. You only have this hat there if
it's not viable. ACCORDING TO THE NO, IT
CAN BE a bent. It could be
who we'll see in tomorrow's what the of
him is, but
I don't care that it's a viable animal.
It's still going to be okay. So
this you'll never say you see that
animal over there, you know, it's a
bench because to the extent that you see
the animal over there, that means it was
full term and obviously it survived the
pregnancy and the of the mother and as a
result you don't have the head to bak.
It's in the world of that there would
even be such a mitz. Either way, it's up
to you.
this that the said that even a fullterm
animal it's a
you have the is going to be the only
time the said that
it's only with regards to the laws of
but with regards to other laws not in
other words as it relates to the the
basic premise we'll see more about the
law this but as relates to the basic
premise of this whole suga
What we're doing is we're treating the
uber as somewhat being tough to the
mother shack to the mother that's how
going to work for the as well. So says
the name that even the who go to the
extreme and they say it's true even for
a full term but it's only with regards
to the that it doesn't require but with
regards to everything else it's a
regular
it's its own and and you can't say oh
it's somehow to the mother and therefore
xyz is not going to apply what is xyz so
the says
meant was to
In other words, what he was trying to
say was that you would have had a maybe
of this
of this is also going to be maybe the is
also going to be because we look at it
as somehow being thoughtful to the
mother. If it's thoughtful to the
mother, it's not its own behemoth. The
of the
is not own. It's a funny hab right.
We'll see more about cinderate. But
there would have been that maybe that
shouldn't be treated as a regular and if
you don't treat like a bad maybe it's
not subject to this it's not subject to
this
but as relates to even
that when it comes to it's going to be
us not true not even true
of that's why we just explained it of
the
we know
Right
holds that
of the of the and of the is going to be
it's not
by the way same
that holds that it requires its
regular
as well doesn't require
so to the
so you can't tell me
Why not? Because
himself said that
holds that and are going to be motors.
You know what we must mean when we said
that what he must have meant was
of and by the way and this has nothing
to do really with the is between and
really
is referring to a completely different
and that is the fats of the
is that going to be is that going to be
and that's what Allah is saying that
even though
remain
with regards to whether or not the is or
not whether requires or it's
but as relates to the of the of every
that everybody agrees everybody agrees
is going to be it's hard to say this
with a straight face right again even
though this is regarding
that's
why
Everybody agrees
is going to be awesome.
What do the two have to do with each
other? Right. The first attempt and the
G of the so good. You have a nice sh
over here. But what's up doing anything?
Rashi asks Kasha and because of this
cash Rashi says I'm not gist the next
bunch of lines but we have in our gam so
we'll be but either way Rashi takes out
this whole gamar. Rashi even explains
why he thinks this gamar got here by
mistake. says because it's a similar kam
and that similar
is almost identical and somebody made a
mistake and somebody took that sh of and
plucked it down over here but this whole
it doesn't make any sense for it to be
but let's see it says
maybe what's going on over here is what
the means to say is that even though
but as
again let's try to fake the straight
face over here everybody agrees it's
going to be us not true mythic pley Not
everybody agrees the of the
as it relates to I'm sorry not
everyone's
is that true
when it comes to the so you have to go
into the of the and you have to try to
take out the whoever it is additionally
they as it relates to the fats. You have
to be
you don't have to go all the way into
the kishkas to pull out the fats. As
long as you take it off the surface,
that of itself is going to make but
everybody agrees WAS AWESOME, RIGHT? HOW
FAR IN you have to go. But you can't
tell me that
because the contrary how much is but for
sure everybody agrees that's
was commenting on the in the
already said not
stating that
as it relates to the laws of then we
view it 100% as not being its own
independent behavior doesn't require
you not let it be with this animal for
that it is an animal you can't be with
another man for that it's going to be an
isol it's is going to be considered
an animal and that's what he was coming
to mind. So notice in the first version
we thought it's only as opposed to as
opposed to the
it's considered
it's not true. So we tweak it. It's not
included in rightclud. You don't have
the problem. You know the problem of
additionally included
what is coming to things
as it relates to that everyone is going
to be
and who is that
is also going to
that says that the is going to be
the the is going to be as well. So, not
only the not only even the
everybody holds that is going to be
the Mishna said that in the event that
it wasn't affect the case even where it
was
a mishna
say you could tear the animal apart you
don't have to sh it
but you have to make sure you get rid of
the d now that's a case that everybody
Everybody agrees is a I mean everyone
holds it over there and still you have
to make sure you get rid of the D. So
the dam is off limits and for sure the
even though he's but that's already a
much bigger for sure the should be over
there and the must
but says
that whenish
said that according to the is going to
be right.
What he meant was all he meant was that
there's not going to be cars knew it's
going to be. He meant to say that
there's not going to be but it can't be.
Who is that? Who is the boy? Who is it?
It's right. We put a name to the face.
We know it's the right
it should be no different than the
damat.
So we know that old dam can be divided
into two groups is the damesh and
there's the damatams. Damesh is the dam
that makes up the soul of the animal and
the damatamsis is the other dam. Now the
says if somebody would go ahead and eat
the damatis
you would even be
like this
was anyone other than so I would
understand the distinction. Basically
what is saying is it's aer at the same
time there's no you know what the lumbus
is it's the lus it's not ne and the is
the nephesh OF THE BEN IS THE MOTHER SO
IT'S not it's so it's
the problem sheet in the holdat's car
and that is
you see it's from the and world what are
you talking he meantis Even if it's
because what is the damatis? It says in
the that is off limits. It says
is referring to
is referring to the dhamsis.
So it's true is that damatamis is cars
but that's only when the dam of that
behem is also carus being that when it
comes to the uber it's dam is not a real
dam. So the damatamsis can't be better.
Meaning you're right. Wherever you have
an animal where if you would eat the dam
you would be then if you eat the dams
the is even the
so
and it's for that reason there's not
going to be a car. What's the bottom
line
according to who is the
even if it's full term and
not only do you not have to sh the
animal but
is going to be what about
the is going to be what does it mean
it's going to be anar
but at the same time there won't be
it's going to be which sounds like
regular regular
means there's even going to be
so we're going to go now until the
bottom of the which is actually going to
take us to the top line of and really
the is going to conclude with twoish
they're both like style but this is with
are having some fun and claring is
related to the lift could somebody take
a ben and be pa
with it so we're familiar with the
parish of the right soar firstborn has
kadusha but at the same time is a
non-commercial animal so you can't give
it to the k and put it on so what are
you supposed to do you're supposed to be
with
you have the mitzvah of the question is
can I use
to be this was
says like this may
hold that requires
It's a regular set. You could it's a
regular
who we know is
do we say that you don't have to it's
like a piece of meat that's sitting in
your freezer right now. So therefore is
how could you use a piece of meat to be
as much as it's a piece of meat but it's
a piece of meat right? It has a life of
its own. So maybe I do view it as so
says what's the bottom line
said turned to mazuch and who held a
I was thinking about it where you coming
from why do you hold it's not okay I
think I know why the
problem because it says by the mitzvah
of
and it says by the carbon and just like
the carbon Pesa can't be a vamp. Why
not? Cuz that's already chocolate. No.
So too. You can't use a vamp for this
either. But if that's the case,
so maybe if you hold of this should
completely redefine the of it should
have to be a male. It should have to be
a it should have to be a benu.
That that's the way it is. As a matter
of fact, it's a that says it could be a
right that somebody is don't apply. So
the bottom line is
the only I could think of why there is
take it all the way. So he told him back
you're 100% right. You got my right. I
was coming from if that's the case
says the word twice in the par and
therefore
even if it's not
right if that's the case we should be
everything what do you mean we should be
you're telling me that it says
let it be but
then you're not using Meaning I had this
tension between
I use
and I use
on the next sha
had another shil
as it comes to ampu
and it's talking about when the bakua is
still inside the mother. It's still
inside the womb of the mother. Do we
view it as a
as it relates to the denim of Tom or do
we view it as a n as it relates to the
of in other words do we say that if the
mother is a
so now the is going to be a
or do we say that if the mother's the is
also going to be do we view it as one go
or we do view it as two go and this was
not this
We view them as two separate entities.
We don't view it as two separate
entities. We look at it as one. In fact,
you want to ego.
We look at it as inside a shell. That's
one. You don't say, "Oh, the shell is a
sheny." No, it's one. It's one.
You're going to view it as the same
thing.
Mayor holds that
what was the case? The case is where it
was then you went ahead and you shacked.
So we know that over limits the question
is or that hand of that limits the
question is what about the rest of what
about the buser of the mother. So mayor
look at
to me that it's one
I understand
how it's possible that the mother and
the uber should both now be subject to
to the maga and by the way even maga tra
we mentioned There is a level of albeit
a low lower level of it's only but the
bottom line is according to me that it's
so I understand why all the is going to
be it was
meaning the blood went on the mother
when you went ahead and you did the and
once it touches the mother so now the
mother is
through the
and it affects the entire animal but
according to you that you view the and
the mother as goofing
So if that's the case but how did the
become the mother became how it became
when you and the dam went onto the buser
of the mother but if you don't view the
as part and parcel of the mother it's
two separate entities so there was no so
I understand the is touching the which
is but the promise has to be so if
that's the case it should never be right
one more time If there's no problem
being I understand why everything is
going to be because the hand isn't a the
mother is the is going to be a but it
has to be first where is the if you view
it as one
is
but if you view it as two where was the
says
I miss going to if you remember way back
feels like a very long time ago. Wasn't
that long ago
that the itself is what's remember is it
only the butto
being that the is
so therefore that's where if you needed
you needed liquid it wouldn't work
says now flips the script and he turns
of
Bryce talking about there was a cool had
lived
according to it's okay doesn't need it
own if it walked through
it's
if afterwards went to right
it would become
according to me that I hold that the
animal and of the mother and the two
goim
That's why this animal needed to first
go into before it went to the in order
for it to become because it needed to be
hooked. When was it ever the all over
the mother that was on the
why don't we say that the mother it was
already and therefore therefore based on
that it should have been
saying I have a that seems to say that a
ben could become right but the only time
it becomes is if what only times it
becomes
if it's first why does that have to
Why don't we say it was at the time that
you did the original? Now, by the way,
just to bring out one point, we know a
live animal can't become a live person
can become not a live animal. A benu is
different. Why? Cuz it's buser. You can
eat it that you can eat it. It can
become. But it has to be first.
OKAY. WENT THROUGH and then it went to
the Titus. Why does it have to go
through the
at the time of answer he told him
and the I'll tell you it's talking about
where at the time of the was no doubt
and the itself is not because it is that
in itself
the lake that's where this would being
that it was never you're right a classic
case it IS MY SKIN WHERE IT wasn't it's
an
something that you're allowed to make.
That's your way out. The bottom line is
this concludes the second
that the brings over here as it relates
to the Benua
exhale. So a lot happened in today's
daf. I think however as it relates to
Ray it's good to speak very much about
to today's to yesterday's d and really
the entire
just to set it up today's raid will be
part one of a two-part raid
in this isute basis
It's
says the ram. Why? Because a
because an is an a of its mother. So
says the ram it's
and the reason is because the uber is an
a from the mother and being that it's an
a from the mother. It's for that reason
it's going to be okay. It's in the Ram
that the Ram held that there would have
been a benial that it's
our entire that discusses someone that
checked the behemis and what's the
status of the would have been a minute
that this is
now go ahead and check the bar says to
no worries
it's okay because
we look at the as being an a of the
mother and if on favor of the mother.
It's not going to be an issue. If you
look in the explain this that was
addressing is
it says in parenthes
that we're about to learn here. But we
know there's an a mother and a child of
a father and a child. But there's an
unheld that if that's the case, maybe
you shouldn't be able to
because when you a very good chance that
the is going to die and if that's the
case, you're going to be
it's not a problem. And you want to know
why it's not a problem? Because
because the way I look at the is not as
a separate entity from the mother, BUT
IT'S AN A OF THE MOTHER. AND THEREFORE,
I DIDN'T CHECK
ALL IT WAS IT WAS ONE I MEAN THAT it's
one so based on that this is not going
to be initial
in right here on this
he must be the of the of the
and it's for that reason that it's it's
going to be Okay. And he says that
really this shakario and the mas of the
raom that it's mut and the reason of the
raom because
is really a gilo to go in understanding
the entire permakash.
And I think just before we read the
short words of
I think it's to take a few steps back
and just speak out what really could
have been the introduction to
that is
angel the great seni in his risal he
with regards to the benu with regards to
makash with regards to the of the behem
everything that we've been doing for the
last week and that is what's the if
somebody
is that the Uber is going to be motor
even though you didn't do a proper is
the
when you the mother we see that the is
being not only in the mother but also in
the Uber and even though the was and
it's two sim
are completely intact. But at the same
time
based on the we have a right to see up
there was a that took place in the
angel there was no that happened in the
you didn't check in the button
of
is that although ordinarily when it
comes to a way you could eat it is if
you shacked it but if there was an uber
inside the of the mother at the time
they injected THE MOTHER THAT IS GOING
TO BE
BUT IT'S NOT THAT we see in the how can
you see there was no but the gather is
is that that
is going to be in other words the gather
of the is we see up as if it's or no we
don't see it as if it's but it's now
either way this is a it's something
that's based on if you see it up as if
it's a because the mits says it's not
and if you're going to be m without a
that's a because ordinarily you need any
way you go this is going to be a it's
not going to be greater or lesser
regardless of which side of this how you
do it you take the question is
what's the lumbness is the lness that we
see it up as if it's or is the lumbness
that you eat it despite the fact that
it's not amino so there's many we'll
mention One second of angle is you're
not let together, right? It says three
times in the
stating that the learns from the fact
that it says
we learn that the only time there is
only if it's only if the animal's alive.
If however the animal is a it's milk
you're allowed to eat with not but
midday rice and you are somebody goes in
and an animal and there's milk that's
considered of there's no
what would be the if somebody would take
the milk of and together with is there
of if you see up as if it's so then it's
It's it's
there's no
if the however is that even though it's
not
it's going to be but the point is it's
not
it's going to be okay
no better at this
and he goes and he has all this is in
terms of whether the we see it up as if
it's or notes
is that
other already went
and handled this
and the sugas
that are brought
but there's one very very compelling
to that together of how Benakura works
is that we see it up as if it's really
and that is from augism
not a says
the following question.
What would be if somebody owns a behem?
The mother is a but the is whatever the
case is. But the mus is the mother is a
if somebody would now take this that's a
that has a that's a bring it into and do
is he is
or is he not
do we say that being that the and you
justed
the animal so you were over the
and or maybe not. And the explains what
did the continues and the Gar says
anotherly asked the same question. What
would be in the reverse?
What would be if you had an animal
that's the
and you did
what's
not and again the explains what it's
told and how you learn a pos
that
if you're going to tell me that the way
works is that when you the mother it's
so then I understand two is over here
and therefore if it was
and if IT'S OR MAYBE BASED on based on
that discuss is beyond the scope of this
rate bite it's not going to be a PROBLEM
BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO TELL ME IT WAS
never
but rather the way the
works is that it doesn't NEED A SO THERE
WAS NO THERE WAS NO SO WHY IN THE WORLD
is a very very to that one side that to
get that is is that it's
as opposed to saying that it's and this
is the way the
approach the
is the
one of the grace there are others as
well is this sug
which goes to the top of
stating that If you think about it, it's
a little bit of a pala. You know why
it's a little bit of a pala? Nothing
fancy. We're learning the over here.
Let's just try to take out a few from
the gum. Number one, the Mishna says
is true. If the Uber was alive, the Uber
was dead.
If the way this works is that when you
the
mace being alive or dead is
with regards to whether it's
but if you're going to tell me that the
way it works is that it's in the animal.
If it's if it was dead before you went
ahead and you did the then how in the
world could you do that's dead it almost
has no
it's said
the is going to be the is going to be
what's that all about why in the world
is the and the
what AU IS IT'S A THAT HAD THIS MAGICAL
OKAY so the of
So why in the world should
meaning you can't just say I have this I
know the I once heard it yeah and and
this is suddenly going to make sense to
the whole it's
there's still a lot of just b this is
like the most simple level possible but
if you want to try to be mad our
thoughts here in the there's still a
little bit that that would have to make
a little bit of sense of like
the brisk and this is in
it's in the right so of course if you
know you know that in the back of the
safer there's a bunch of this was
written
the
and what they were discussing over there
was the the
insurus
in the end of per says that in the event
that somebody would she an animal and
the animal itself was a tra. So somebody
is that the is going to be.
So the Ram says that in the event that
somebody would shim
and you found out that it was a tra. So
the laws of Ben would not apply. Soy
asked he said I don't understand this
little bit of he said we just learned
today's right we have a little bit of an
appreciation for this
but the reason
is not
so why is a it's because there's a it
says in the
that we learned this 100 times. We
should remember it. But the bottom line
is that any traer that's found in the
something like that is you're not going
to be allowed to go ahead and eat it,
right?
Thank you. So is you're not going to be
able to eat it. The point is but the
reason is
there's no
you're not allowed to go ahead and read
it. So
tomorrow so he said if that's the case
what's in this I don't understand the of
the says that if you go ahead and you
and then you find it's going to be why
not say if you're going to tell me that
when you sh the in the SO IT'S NOT IF
IT'S NOT A MALIA it doesn't work for the
mother it doesn't work for the but being
that we know that is a malia so if it's
a malia Even though it can't be
on the mother because there's a it says
IN THE
is its own entity. So if it's an entity
it's not a betray if it's not OF WHY
SHOULDN'T I BE ABLE TO EAT themsing
in this in this letter the why is it
that the
of
doesn't have the head you're going to
tell me because the of the mother
couldn't work the mother worked
there was no in THE IT'S JUST THAT being
that hi my name is so and so and I'm so
THEREFORE IT CAN'T BE SO THEREFORE IT'S
NOT GOING TO BE THAT DOESN'T HAVE that
so let it be
so
he said is part he said the is what's
this magic what's this business over
here that when you go ahead and you
shack the mother all of a sudden now the
uber is suddenly going to be okay
magically we look it up as if the bim of
the uber somehow got a said the raada
that's not together he says you want to
know what the together is the is
there's a mus in that sometimes we look
at the as not being its own entity but
as being one of the one of the of the
animal we look at the AS
THAT'S THE WAY WE look at the said the
brisker the gather of
the gather
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it's one of the of the mother and being
that there was a that was done in the
mother And the in every one of the
is a little different. It has a pulse.
It has a it has a it has its own set of
right. It has its own thing going. But
the way we see up this as being
and being that we see it up as being ONE
OF SO THEREFORE IT CAN'T BE BETTER THAN
THE MOTHER. AND IF the mother's a tra
then this is an a of a trafer and every
a of a tra
if the together is you see it up as a
separate entity said the grace and it
somehow gets this just like the mother
got the okay so this entity has the of
the mother is a perfect nvas dear this
this external bomb that's saying you
can't be because YOU'RE A TRA I'M NOT A
TRA SO BASED ON that I should be okay
together is not that this two is TAKING
PLACE ONE THE IS HAPPENING IN THE mother
the reason it's
because I see
and being that I see it as one and it's
all as well if this is an of a tra it's
not going to be okay and the said that
the
I stopped one line short
said agrees
a beer on the entire the reason the
bener
is because it's
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because it's viewed as a separate it's
because we view it as and if the had all
the are going to be mut as well that's
together that's why this is going to be
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the way you understand the sad ink that
it's a not it's an independent that's
happening in the child the two sim are
fine it's clapping
we view it.
And if we view it,
so it's for that reason it's going to be
okay. What do we say? What's with that?
If it's dead, how could it be in a in a
dead? It doesn't make any sense. A dead
thing can't get a mita in it. If you
want to see the in the
somehow in a magical way, well, if it's
dead, it can't happen. It's dead. Clap
being its own entity.
being
maybe if it's mace it's even more than
if it's but it's I'm looking at it not
as it's
not a problem you want to know why the
is you want to know why the gdanosha is
mut going backwards there's something
called the gdanosh of an animal the
gdanosha is right we have the gdosha is
we'll get to that par coming up soon as
well there's something called the
gdanosha the uber is is its own apher
the gdanosha of the uber is a gdanosha
I'm I'm seeing
that I'm seeing it
and for that reason it's all going to be
moto.
It's working with but together of the I
see it.
This is exactly what says
means
I'm not sure. Maybe there's a problem.
This is something that's going to be
okay. Why is it going to be okay?
Because the reason it's going to be is
because
what's the
is that the way
works is I see the as its own entity I
see the as
if I think it's true I did twoas over
here I did a on the mother I did a
twoas that are really oneita because the
together of the is
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there should be a
and says if you look at both of the
came from the
but
saying identical that same
what is
He's tightening up the together of how
works is I see the as I see it as and
that's why there's no
because I'm shing one I'm noting two
both places the learning up to the same
exact way is that I see it up I see it
up. In other words, we said that we had
this
in the world of this
in the world of it's really two right
it's
is the
of the mother works for the or maybe the
is that when I do a mother I don't need
a in it works that it's a and is
together these twoas that are taking
place over here or is together or is
together that this one I see
at the end of
that together is it's a like the first
in the but the gather of the is that I
look at the as being the second
in that first
the same exact thing from the
and I just want to say on
that is says you know you learn this
is that
it sounds a little bit like the only
time it's
hold
it sounds like maybe it would be
I think it's a pleat it's a plea
the closest thing you find to there
being an issue with Romeo mayor holds a
bakur requires a but that it should be
to go ahead and
shu
right no one ever heard of such a in the
world it sounds a little bit that the is
telling you that if
I have a way out but if
that I don't have a way out it's a clear
is that what just said I hold because I
hold therefore
But if you hold that
then ready it's not going to be okay
at first glance. So then I wasn't sure
but I thought could be the real is not
saying that
and I'm getting involved in that maybe
one of the biggest of all time.
What is saying is like this in the
question
right now
when it comes to
but meaning even if I hold
but when it comes but when it comes to
this everybody's going to hold I don't
think it's possible to say that only
meant this
because then the would have a
hold and really all this is saying THAT
everybody
there's no and it learns from a
what's the sh the is is it true only in
the is it true as well
there's no and that's what means it
doesn't mean as IN
HE MEANS THERE'S NO question
I found.
He says he said it's impossible to say
that
it's that this is where it's going to be
just the end. I saw in a safe it's
called mikra so we quoted from the safe
of mika many times over the years was a
great guy in revel he was nifa very very
recently and in par's
a piece that we're going to get back to
tomorrow but in parl at the end of the
piece he has a little bit of on this and
he says that you know we know throughout
there's a
and he says there isn't one place in
where the says
We never have so it's one of the biggest
in the world and he says I'm not aware
anywhere of a what is the source to the
I think it's that the
is the
meaning this is the beer and how works
this is actually the is the
That's done.
That's why there's no problem.
That's why of is going to be A PROBLEM.
THAT'S WHY even if it's maze that's why
THAT'S WHY IT'S ALL BASED ON THE FACT
it's
but together as I look at the
learner
and he SAID THIS IS A PER
you're always supposed to look at the as
the
is not only a it's a
hold said no I hold it
But that's really not the way it's going
to be. This raid this could be the
whole the institution of
but what is the
green
could be the is
sense he says I'm not aware of any other
if he's not aware we're not even going
to be aware. So the bottom line is this
is the
right he lived in Yeshua Salvich's
building and I've heard that Yeshua used
to refer to him as an
that's how he used to refer to him as an
imish if you go through his he was
in in a very dramatic way but very but
the bottom line is could be this over
here is not just a could be this is
actually the to the entire concept of
obi.